Roasting Other Urban Planning and Transit Channels | The 20k sub special

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  • Опубліковано 4 лют 2025
  • oh boy, here we go
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    Donoteat01
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    WTYPP
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    The Four Foot
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    City Beautiful
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    Adam Something
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    B1M
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    Road Guy Rob
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    American Rail Club
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    Eco Gecko
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    Urban Doctor
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    bsquiklehausen
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    Amtrakguy365
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    Peter Dribble
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 592

  • @theurbandoctor787
    @theurbandoctor787 3 роки тому +2176

    Alan Fisher: The only urbanist youtuber who has the time to watch all of the other urbanist youtubers

    • @Nik-ny9ue
      @Nik-ny9ue 3 роки тому +15

      lmao

    • @Nik-ny9ue
      @Nik-ny9ue 3 роки тому +4

      also pls make more vido pws 👉🏼👈🏻

    • @Coolsomeone234
      @Coolsomeone234 2 роки тому +3

      Didn't even realise that most of these exist

    • @Madwonk
      @Madwonk Рік тому

      Dude! Where'd you go? I'm gonna have to ape your style and start making my own urbanist videos if you don't come back soon

    • @Idiot-q2j
      @Idiot-q2j Рік тому +1

      Well I guess he ain't the Armchair Urbanist for nothing...
      A'ight never mind, I'll see myself out.

  • @CityBeautiful
    @CityBeautiful 3 роки тому +1670

    You let me off too easy!

    • @1121494
      @1121494 3 роки тому +52

      Well, how about just trying to escalate with a counter roast in your content then?

    • @djitidjiti6703
      @djitidjiti6703 3 роки тому +67

      I was hoping he'd say you look and sound like Fix It Felix from the movie Wreck It Ralph - you're so positive and wholesome. The comparison is always in the background of my mind as I watch your videos.

    • @nntflow7058
      @nntflow7058 3 роки тому

      You don't have a dreadlock, so I don't know why he called you Californian liberal.

    • @nmpls
      @nmpls 2 роки тому

      IDK ua-cam.com/video/_1vTGN52MCc/v-deo.html

    • @glennac
      @glennac Рік тому +1

      Dave! Great content. 👍🏼 Please keep it up despite the vocal minority. The Bike Bell is a treat we look forward to with every video. 🔔

  • @user-de4cq6uk6l
    @user-de4cq6uk6l 3 роки тому +1243

    “Skyscraper Chad” is about the best name I’ve heard for the B1M channel

    • @nntflow7058
      @nntflow7058 3 роки тому +25

      I mean, he is hot, can't argue with that.

    • @lzh4950
      @lzh4950 2 роки тому +6

      @The Stammering Dunce Remember he was quite positive about Forest City too

    • @trainrover
      @trainrover 2 роки тому

      that bimbo's cringe bears the channel I troll the most

    • @trainrover
      @trainrover 2 роки тому +1

      @@nntflow7058 he's thick in a l l the wrong places, f f s.......:shuddering:

    • @gouledawad2377
      @gouledawad2377 2 роки тому

      😂😂😂

  • @Man2quilla
    @Man2quilla 3 роки тому +948

    The virgin casual viewer getting upset at all the roasts
    Me, the Chad planning viewer using this to find more planning content

    • @OnkelJajusBahn
      @OnkelJajusBahn 3 роки тому +52

      Me too, I didn't knew a lot of the channels, but I have to check them out.

    • @frogandtoady
      @frogandtoady 3 роки тому +28

      same, checking out that crazy podcast rn
      Edit: just found out I already follow them?? dude

    • @alanthefisher
      @alanthefisher  3 роки тому +220

      that was kinda the hidden purpose 👀

    • @trainboi777yall6
      @trainboi777yall6 3 роки тому +16

      @@alanthefisher that is really creative honestly

    • @chestnut4860
      @chestnut4860 2 роки тому +2

      Giga chad: Using channels he dislikes to find things you'll like.

  • @TheFourFoot
    @TheFourFoot 3 роки тому +620

    “Nuh, my name’s Alan. I had 2 videos go viral so now I think I’m better than Wendover…”

    • @TheFourFoot
      @TheFourFoot 3 роки тому +107

      Of course I’m just kidding! The jabs at RMTransit and American Rail Club were strait fire. Congratulations man! Thanks for the roast!

    • @alanthefisher
      @alanthefisher  3 роки тому +127

      @@TheFourFoot uhhhhhhh actually 3 videos lol. Idk if you saw but I'll be in Chicago at the end of August if you want another "short" roadtrip lol

    • @TheFourFoot
      @TheFourFoot 3 роки тому +32

      @@alanthefisher yeah I know, I’m gonna be in Chicago literally 2 weeks before you, and I won’t be able to make it back. At least we got to me up earlier!

    • @alanthefisher
      @alanthefisher  3 роки тому +26

      @@TheFourFoot ah damn, but I hope that your trip is good tho!

    • @TheFourFoot
      @TheFourFoot 3 роки тому +17

      @@alanthefisher for sure, thanks!

  • @RMTransit
    @RMTransit 3 роки тому +1390

    As it turns out, Alan can make more than one video a week!
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    Congrats on the milestone man!

  • @AdamSomething
    @AdamSomething 3 роки тому +858

    Damn, got me!

    • @alanthefisher
      @alanthefisher  3 роки тому +233

      I'm serious with the burn-out comment tho, love your videos, cheers!
      Edit: This did not age well lol

    • @AdamSomething
      @AdamSomething 3 роки тому +216

      @@alanthefisher don't worry, I was just pretty busy for a week or so. Next video coming hopefully on Sunday!
      For the record, I only make videos when I feel like making them, strictly as a hobby/fun activity. This should prevent burnout in the long run, or at least I hope it will.

    • @ShouldOfStudiedForTheTest
      @ShouldOfStudiedForTheTest 3 роки тому

      I think an Emily Wojak woukd have fit well.

    • @behindyou666
      @behindyou666 3 роки тому +2

      @@AdamSomething Adam, do you have any peronal favorite cities?

    • @illiiilli24601
      @illiiilli24601 3 роки тому +17

      wonder why you're no longer linked in the doobly doo

  • @NotJustBikes
    @NotJustBikes 3 роки тому +2004

    🧐
    Did you say something? I was looking at the trains.
    This will be my comment on every Alan Fisher video.

    • @blu0065
      @blu0065 3 роки тому +96

      Are you ever down and out about your country's urban planning woes? Just say duck it and move to the Netherlands!

    • @adamhelmke1295
      @adamhelmke1295 3 роки тому +34

      Are you ever down and out about your country's urban planning woes? Just say duck it and move to the Netherlands!

    • @tnk4me4
      @tnk4me4 3 роки тому +43

      @@blu0065 Duck it I'm moving to the Netherlands.

    • @peskypigeonx
      @peskypigeonx 3 роки тому +9

      @@adamhelmke1295 honestly, relatable

    • @TotoDG
      @TotoDG 3 роки тому +23

      Did you say something? I was looking at the bikes.

  • @bsquiklehausen
    @bsquiklehausen 3 роки тому +556

    Congrats on 20k!
    The swear jar at this point has outpaced my savings account.

    • @Alex_catz
      @Alex_catz 2 роки тому

      Oh God... Well good luck

  • @darius2640
    @darius2640 3 роки тому +390

    VOX be like: okay here is what we gonna talk about today, BUT FIRST lets rewind to year 1000 B.C. and start our story with something that is vaguely related and no one cares about, and then come back to the main theme of the episode right before the end

    • @KevinKickChannel
      @KevinKickChannel 3 роки тому +38

      THIS so much. Applies to Cheddar too. I really think they are incapable of explaining why things are what they are without rewinding at least a century first. If they had to make a video on something like dubstep music I swear to god they'll begin the video by covering some guy who did something in 1907.

  • @MickeyMoorhead
    @MickeyMoorhead 3 роки тому +179

    I have a feeling this video was made specifically to dunk on Cheddar and Wendover

    • @patrickgallagher1161
      @patrickgallagher1161 3 роки тому +16

      They commodify urban planning UA-cam like no one else (except Wendover)

    • @Cal90208
      @Cal90208 2 роки тому +3

      @@patrickgallagher1161 Wendover isn’t really urban planning though..

  • @ashleyhamman
    @ashleyhamman 3 роки тому +90

    City Beautiful: "You enjoyed the California planning course, I'm the further readings."
    Wendover: "Thing exists. End of Story."

  • @blackman7437
    @blackman7437 3 роки тому +155

    1:15 Imagine having the gall to roast Roz for not releasing another Franklin episode while making us wait a year and a half for the sequel to the SEPTA video.

  • @alanthefisher
    @alanthefisher  3 роки тому +153

    A Reminder to check out all of the people that I mentioned here:
    Not Just Bikes
    ua-cam.com/channels/0intLFzLaudFG-xAvUEO-A.html
    RMtransit
    ua-cam.com/channels/f4iKXL_SJQ5d0qsKkboRRQ.html
    Donoteat01
    ua-cam.com/users/donoteat01
    WTYPP
    ua-cam.com/channels/PxHg4192hLDpTI2w7F9rPg.html
    The Four Foot
    ua-cam.com/channels/m2czVRCQ8As7jLnluR8lLQ.html
    City Beautiful
    ua-cam.com/channels/Gc8ZVCsrR3dAuhvUbkbToQ.html
    Bigmoodenergy
    ua-cam.com/channels/42GVkwV1q6NMc4ikXmi2FA.html
    Adam Something
    www.youtube.com/@AdamSomething
    B1M
    ua-cam.com/users/TheB1MLtd
    Road Guy Rob
    ua-cam.com/channels/qdUXv9yQiIhspWPYgp8_XA.html
    American Rail Club
    ua-cam.com/channels/piBD6csbMlsEt20d_CmRCA.html
    Eco Gecko
    ua-cam.com/channels/JZV6sai-juDs4zAbAMVhfA.html
    Urban Doctor
    ua-cam.com/channels/33WWpCRHft51iEV2hVcRzQ.html
    bsquiklehausen
    ua-cam.com/users/bsquiklehausen
    Amtrakguy365
    ua-cam.com/channels/g4Sw-Ro5oaLO37k62vnJuQ.html
    Honker 3d
    ua-cam.com/channels/JR3MKeKKNrEn9ZV6cnsYjQ.html
    Peter Dribble
    ua-cam.com/channels/AGoczn30zXWNy0BffJcpbw.html

    • @ROTTERDXM
      @ROTTERDXM 3 роки тому +27

      hahaha except Wendover I see

    • @EmyrDerfel
      @EmyrDerfel 3 роки тому +7

      @@ROTTERDXM and Whistler, they both have too many channels.

    • @maknyc1539
      @maknyc1539 3 роки тому +21

      lmao thers no wendover or vox/cheddar

    • @dieselmanmatt
      @dieselmanmatt 3 роки тому +1

      You forgot City Planner Plays. Roast him!

    • @hobog
      @hobog 3 роки тому +2

      I also recommend I recommend Michael Beach and Elias Go and niskopodłogowiec and Dmitry Rogachev

  • @carm1549
    @carm1549 3 роки тому +227

    Channel Goals: qualify for the second round of UA-cam urbanist roasts

  • @kostka4876
    @kostka4876 3 роки тому +137

    Damn, just imagine how Wendover felt about this, but he's probably not allowed to state his own opinion lawl.

    • @Exarian
      @Exarian 3 роки тому +27

      He's getting paid *way* too much to have opinions rn.

    • @chestnut4860
      @chestnut4860 2 роки тому +8

      @@Exarian Why would you want to be told what to think? I geniunly don't understand how you can NOT find it draining to listen to someone someone show in their shitty hottakes, wendover says if something worked logistically or not. He dosen't need to say more.

    • @Cal90208
      @Cal90208 2 роки тому +6

      @@chestnut4860 Agreed, he’s there to break down topics to people who don’t know about them. Provide information on something that’s interesting. He does that well, we don’t need his opinion.

  • @PASH3227
    @PASH3227 3 роки тому +196

    As a Californian who identifies as "liberal", the City Beautiful roast hit me hard!!

    • @gabriellisi7349
      @gabriellisi7349 3 роки тому +33

      Good

    • @craigstephenson7676
      @craigstephenson7676 3 роки тому +14

      Deserved

    • @deadliestvice5356
      @deadliestvice5356 3 роки тому +11

      You're almost doing a soy face even.

    • @ScramJett
      @ScramJett 3 роки тому +3

      As a Californian who identifies as neither liberal nor wing nut, I LMAO and said “yep!”

    • @dvderek
      @dvderek 3 роки тому +2

      Lol city beautiful is based

  • @YetAnotherGeorgeth
    @YetAnotherGeorgeth 3 роки тому +116

    Jago Hazard: a Victorian time traveler talks about Charles Tyson Yerkes Jr. for 5 minutes

    • @alanthefisher
      @alanthefisher  3 роки тому +59

      Both of them are on my list, but the video was getting too long and my brain was fried last night finishing this. If I do another they'll definitely be in it, also Geoff marshall too

    • @mdhazeldine
      @mdhazeldine 3 роки тому +7

      @@alanthefisher I'd watch that. Haha

    • @user-de4cq6uk6l
      @user-de4cq6uk6l 3 роки тому +13

      Charles Yerkes? You mean Victorian yankee metro chad?

    • @YetAnotherGeorgeth
      @YetAnotherGeorgeth 3 роки тому +4

      @@user-de4cq6uk6l no, that’s Geoff Marshall, although I suppose he could be UK Train Chad? 🤔

    • @nmpls
      @nmpls 3 роки тому +11

      @@alanthefisher Also Tim Traveller. He tried to be a travel guy, but covid and his inner foamerness means he basically just does French (and occasionally neighboring countries) trains (monorails are trains in this world).

  • @arsenaldailytransfernews
    @arsenaldailytransfernews 3 роки тому +69

    This is top notch!
    The roasts for the 50% of channels I did recognise were fantastic, and the other 50% of channels are one's I'll have to check out for the first time.

    • @ROTTERDXM
      @ROTTERDXM 3 роки тому +2

      i know right, agreed

  • @robk7266
    @robk7266 3 роки тому +62

    When the most non-controversial channel possible is the one that gets him upset.

  • @FishyAshB
    @FishyAshB 3 роки тому +111

    IDK how it happened but I stumbled into this genre of youtube earlier this week and I can't get enough lol. It started with The Urban Doctor's video on the biggest problem with american cities and it just spiraled from there.
    I'm from the UK, and at one point in my childhood I spent 9 months in America, attending middle school there. While I was there I lived in a Suburban neighborhood in Georgia. These videos managed to help me understand and express the strong isolation I felt during my stay there and for that I'm grateful.
    Also, I've gotta give props to you for your excellent taste in music, Vulfpeck is fucking awesome and props also for including some Louis Cole in this video.

    • @elijahclaude3413
      @elijahclaude3413 3 роки тому +2

      Omg same!! I'm happy I stumbled into this part of UA-cam. It's been really inspirational... And frustrating lol

    • @NicLaue
      @NicLaue 3 роки тому +2

      This genre of UA-cam influenced me to go to a city planning meeting today 😂

    • @MrPryzeLurker
      @MrPryzeLurker 3 роки тому +1

      Yup, everything started with urban doctor ranting about the "long" city. And now I am here.

    • @ScramJett
      @ScramJett 3 роки тому +1

      @@MrPryzeLurker Huh, I might have to check this guy out. I dipped my toe in the water with City Beautiful but got fully sucked into the deep end with Not Just Bikes.

    • @Volcano4981
      @Volcano4981 2 роки тому

      Man, in all the faults and crippling problems we have in this country, at least we don't have an endless desert of NA-style suburbia and even with debilitating politically-motivated public service and transport cuts, we still have real alternatives to spending an eternity in seas of asphalt with only a car to 'keep us afloat'. Sure the push for car-centricity on both an individual and a state level is getting ridiculous, and the toxic motorist culture remains, but I can confidently live the rest of my life without ever needing to buy one of those death trap 1.5 ton steel and fibreglass prisons that are the curtailing of freedoms to an urbanite.
      I love urbanism channels so much, not only because I am very intrigued by it, but also at least for giving me so much hope that I'd rather have the grime and decay we see over impending financial and traffic congestion doom, the catalysts of which are ugly single-family zoned homes needing to overcompensate by lifeless lawns, and to be thankful I can both be a productive, mobile person and also not have to fear about being isolated, needing to drink drive or be living in a food desert because I can walk absolutely bloody anywhere.

  • @thetrainhopper8992
    @thetrainhopper8992 3 роки тому +699

    Wendover is the most white bread channel imaginable. He’s basically a person that believes techno-hype without getting on his knees with no analysis or his own thoughts on anything. I try not to do that, but what I think still bleeds through.

    • @peytonwarren1936
      @peytonwarren1936 3 роки тому +250

      Him, economics explained, knowledgehub, and others are the “I Fucking Love Science” of 2020s UA-cam

    • @ebryan1990
      @ebryan1990 3 роки тому +123

      This put into words something I’ve been struggling with. I really got into his videos a while ago, but after watching more of them and seeing his new content, I’ve become disinterested and couldn’t quite put my finger on it. Now I know.

    • @gars129
      @gars129 3 роки тому +96

      @@peytonwarren1936 Knowledge Hub and Alternate History Hub are pretty "Radical Centrists".

    • @IkeOkerekeNews
      @IkeOkerekeNews 3 роки тому +38

      Didn't he do a whole video about how the British privatization was bad?

    • @thetrainhopper8992
      @thetrainhopper8992 3 роки тому +74

      @@IkeOkerekeNews he did and that was his high water mark as far as my opinion goes. But then again, the Brits did such a shit job you could show no opinion and explain why they were stupid.

  • @alanthefisher
    @alanthefisher  3 роки тому +99

    *All of the music in the video thats not Vulfpeck:*
    F it up - Louis Cole (Live Sesh)
    Summer Samba - Walter Wanderley
    Move closer to your world - Al Ham
    Blue Blood - heinz kiessling
    Seek and Destroy - Strike Vector
    Sky High - Daytona USA
    Comic Sans - Cory Wong
    Studiopolis - Sonice Mania

    • @frankierogers428
      @frankierogers428 3 роки тому +2

      I can see your a fan of it's Always Sunny in Philadelphia

    • @MazHem
      @MazHem 3 роки тому +3

      DAAAYYYTOOOONAAAAA

    • @cactusfondler9989
      @cactusfondler9989 2 роки тому +2

      @@MazHem memories of walking around any arcade in Ocean City MD as a kid and just hearing DAAAYTOOONNAAAA. Shit is burned into my mind for life

    • @noobgaming46530
      @noobgaming46530 2 роки тому +1

      my favorite video game, sonice mania

  • @cinnanyan
    @cinnanyan 3 роки тому +115

    I laughed at the Road Guy Rob one.

    • @KrishnaDasLessons
      @KrishnaDasLessons 3 роки тому +15

      The thing is that it is kinda true.

    • @MartinJahn
      @MartinJahn 3 роки тому +17

      He literally said in one of his videos that he likes cars.

    • @flinx
      @flinx 3 роки тому +25

      @@MartinJahn So do some other urbanists. They just don't like cars in cities. Rob's videos speak the language of people who won't watch many of the other channels. If they don't watch Not Just Bikes videos, they're not learning and their views won't change. In contrast Rob's video about Phoenix is both sympathetic to car drivers, but also imparts information about some downsides of car-centricity.

    • @dreamingflurry2729
      @dreamingflurry2729 3 роки тому +2

      @@flinx I do watch the car haters (including Not Just Bikes, who's solution to almost any problem is "Move to the Netherlands, all other countries are doing it wrong anyway!") and I frankly still disagree with their car hatred, not their points about building bike and pedestrian infrastructure, better public transport etc. but I disagree that this has to come at the expense of drivers! So no, I am probably not changing my mind on that, especially since having a car is simply convenient, get a week's worth of groceries home? Use a car, can't carry all that on public transport and putting all that on a bike probably doesn't work (unless you put a trailer on it)!

    • @mattbalfe2983
      @mattbalfe2983 2 роки тому +4

      @@dreamingflurry2729 His video about how he gets groceries is on point, in mixed use neighborhoods you really can go to the grocery store like everyday and its not a hassle.

  • @unknownPLfan
    @unknownPLfan 3 роки тому +25

    The fact that I found this entertaining made me painfully aware of how far my transit/urbanism UA-cam rabbit hole had gone. I get the joke/reference for all but one or two of these. fuck.

  • @casey6556
    @casey6556 3 роки тому +21

    Your roasts were incredibly accurate to all the channels I follow but I found Not Just Bikes and City Beautiful made me laugh uncontrollably and I agree so much with the Wendover one I was basically that DiCaprio meme pointing at the screen
    Excellent work!

  • @Token_Nerd
    @Token_Nerd 3 роки тому +364

    Also I’m mad at you for not roasting Reece’s hatred of trolley buses

    • @alanthefisher
      @alanthefisher  3 роки тому +226

      That's reserved for when I make another video on trolley buses

    • @maknyc1539
      @maknyc1539 3 роки тому +4

      @@alanthefisher ee

    • @colonelcampbellsoup6318
      @colonelcampbellsoup6318 3 роки тому +13

      @@alanthefisher PHEW Another trolleybus video??? Oh I dunno my heart is racing I don't think im ready for that...

    • @Eeroke
      @Eeroke 3 роки тому +4

      Also everything has to be grade separated, high floor and walk-through no matter the cost.

    • @Token_Nerd
      @Token_Nerd 3 роки тому +1

      @@Eeroke yes to the high floor tho…

  • @jaceybella1267
    @jaceybella1267 3 роки тому +42

    I'm only just barely getting into Urban Planner UA-cam so I'm half chuckling, half scribbling down names to add to my "to watch" list lmao

    • @brutustantheiii8477
      @brutustantheiii8477 3 роки тому +7

      The brilliant part is that was likely his real purpose
      You may not have noticed it (at first)…but your brain did

  • @newpractice
    @newpractice 3 роки тому +34

    what can I say, ya got me

  • @AmericanRailClub
    @AmericanRailClub 3 роки тому +87

    3:48 Take it away - and no refunds! :-D
    Subbed, come on the show anytime.

    • @Pensyfan19
      @Pensyfan19 3 роки тому +5

      *Do it Alan! I will be on ARC's Livestream when this happens!*

  • @TotoDG
    @TotoDG 3 роки тому +36

    “Welcome to the first roast of this channel; well, not _this_ channel, other channels!”
    Okay, so for 100k subs, you have to roast your own channel.

    • @JohnFallot
      @JohnFallot 2 роки тому

      When 1 Million Subs hit: every other channel roasts Alan… (including Wendover?) 😂

  • @ExileLinkv2
    @ExileLinkv2 3 роки тому +113

    As soon as I saw the Vox/Cheddar slide, I thought, "this is about the wrong stock footage in the Gateway project video"
    Grand Central footage, pretty shameless;
    Talking about the broken swinging Portal Bridge and then showing the Upper Hack lift bridge; that's just neglectful

    • @Glenni91N
      @Glenni91N 3 роки тому +5

      What's even more cringe worthy is when Vox/Cheddar does a fact about something in another country, fact errors galore.

    • @anincompetentmoron8497
      @anincompetentmoron8497 3 роки тому

      It would probably be easier to roast the grid video... A giant pile of rubbish.

  • @hhs_leviathan
    @hhs_leviathan 3 роки тому +93

    To be fair Road Guy Rob did take a few looks into non-car transport. It's just a lot of urban channels don't discuss car transport...

    • @dreamingflurry2729
      @dreamingflurry2729 3 роки тому +7

      Oh they do, they sneer at car use because that is supposedly hip these days (which isn't true, only a tiny minority of people actually would get rid of their car and the convenience it brings!)...I personally am against car hatred, but not against building better public transport, bike infrastructure, pedestrian infrastructure, mixed zoning (which is luckily the norm in Germany, so yes there is usually at least some stores within walking distance) etc. etc. but I am against banning cars or doing all that at the expense of drivers. You can make compromises here, without making driving a chore that people hate, like in the Netherlands, which for me is a car hater country (and it shows, when they do drive, they are pretty bad at it! I see this every year when they clog up the Autobahn because they have to take their camping trailers and drive to their holiday destination!)!

    • @pennyforyourthots
      @pennyforyourthots 3 роки тому +5

      @@dreamingflurry2729 I mean, I'm pretty sure when they actually asked people something like over 50% said they would ditch their car if given the opportunity, which makes sense because those things are basically Financial white elephants, but even if that wasn't the case, cars are objectively worse for the environment then basically every other form of Transport that you mentioned, so if we want the environment to not collapse, some people might have to be uncomfortable taking the bus.
      Also you can't both support better infrastructure for other forms of transportation and support car infrastructure. The two are inversely correlated because one form of Transport makes the other worse (ex. You can either give pedestrian priority, which slows down drivers, or driver priority, which puts pedestrians in danger)
      Car hatred is absolutely Justified. You can argue that there's still a place for cars, but certainly not as the predominant form of transport. Like there is literally no category in which cars are a better form of Transport except maybe comfort, and even then I would dispute that. They don't hate cars because it's the hip thing to do, it's because there's nothing good about cars

    • @dreamingflurry2729
      @dreamingflurry2729 3 роки тому

      @@pennyforyourthots If you give me a more practical (and convenient!) mode of transportation? Then sure, so would I, but frankly it doesn't exist, nothing beats the comfort and practicality of personal transport! You can't take a week's worth of shopping (groceries!) onto puplic transport and putting all that on a bike is not easy as well :(
      I also believe there has to be a solution that gives cyclists, pedestrians and drivers the best possible infrastructure, you don't have to screw over drivers for pedestrians and cyclists! Sure cars aren't the most environmentally friendly thing out there, I grant you that, but that can change - electric cars (the only thing they are worse at is road wear and frankly maybe we should look into different road surfaces, asphalt is really old tech after all (note: No, I am not talking about stuff like "solar roadways", they aren't a good idea either))

    • @pennyforyourthots
      @pennyforyourthots 3 роки тому +20

      @@dreamingflurry2729 its called a train.
      It doesn't get stuck in traffic, travels far faster (and safer) than a car, requires less maintenance, and so much more. It can move far more people the same distance while taking up less space and resources, and depending on factors like the type of train, how far they're traveling, etc can be reasonably comfortable. Also, driving isn't comfortable, i have no idea why people think that.
      You wouldn't need to worry about bulk groceries because that's a problem CREATED by cars. Because car dependent societies require massive road networks that put massive distances between things like homes, workplaces, etc, its more convenient to make one massive trip where you get everything, where as normally you would buy things from local shops within a block or two as needed, eliminating the need for a way to move a lot of stuff. Instead of going to walmart 5 miles away every week, you just go to your local corner store for most of your groceries.
      This car-centric shopping model also has the unintended side effect of killing small business, as only massive warehouse stores like walmart can afford the upkeep and scale required to make such a business functional. Cars are a solution to a problem they create.
      There is no traffic solution that give pedestrians/cyclists AND cars the best infrastructure, this is a one or the other scenario. If you want to move a lot of cars very quickly, you need things like highways, which are structures that create hostile environments for pedestrians and cyclists because of things like noise for creating massive spans that they must cross. This is also true to a lesser extent for regular Roads, especially roads where you have high volumes of traffic. The problem is that you have to give one priority, and the obvious solution to that is to give priority to cyclists and pedestrians as there are far more risk than the average driver. When you build things at the scale that you must for cars be efficient, you create hostile environments for cyclists and pedestrians, but when you create an environment that's friendly for pedestrians and cyclist, you create an environment where using a car becomes ineffective and the inefficient option.
      As for the environmental damage even if every vehicle on the road became an electric car today, that doesn't mean much. Because the electricity that we use comes from environmentally damaging sources, the amount of energy that cars collectively would use would still make them more environmentally damaging than a train simply because they don't transport people in as significant numbers. Most people drive alone, meaning that for 100 people to move from point A to point B you need about 100 cars. To move that amount of people on a train you only need one or two train cars and you'll have move those people quicker because of the lack of traffic, and far more safely because of the lack of collision zones.
      And this isn't even to include other factors like the fact that roads create something called the urban Island heating effect where the black asphalt makes cities hotter as it releases heat throughout the day, the high cost of upkeep which bankrupts cities because roadways are far more expensive to maintain than railroads, the fact that cars have a number of plastic components we are still produced from the same crude oils that make their fuel, the fact that lithium for Lithium-ion batteries is an incredibly rare resource, etc.
      Most forms of transportation are more practical and convenient than cars. Most of the problems that you brought up like the grocery shopping problem are problems that are created because of car Centric infrastructure, and he's problems simply don't exist in places where cars aren't the primary form of transportation. I don't think you realize just how much effort has gone into making cars and efficient form of transportation, because unlike a train, they aren't inherently efficient.
      While I don't want an outright ban on cars like some people, they should not be a society's primary form of transportation and perhaps reserved for things like local deliveries or for people who live in rural areas. for the majority of humans who live in cities or are trying to travel long distances, trains, buses, airplanes, fairies, streetcars, trolleys, walking, riding a bike, etc are all objectively more efficient, more comfortable, and more affordable modes of transportation when they don't have to be planned around cars, and even when they do have to be planned around cars, are usually still better anyway because cars are just THAT inefficient.
      TL;DR: most forms of transportation are more practical and convenient than cars. The only problems that cars excel at solving are the ones that they create by their very existence, and a lot of the problems that exist as a result of cars (urban planning, fossil fuel usage, noise pollution, etc) are often forgotten about when people judge how efficient cars are.

    • @ripred42
      @ripred42 3 роки тому +4

      @@dreamingflurry2729 the dutch actually have one of the densest highway networks in the world, they just don't like cars in cities

  • @saxmanb777
    @saxmanb777 3 роки тому +27

    This is amazing and introduced me to a few more channels.

  • @EnzoArona
    @EnzoArona 3 роки тому +13

    I screamed when Road Guy Rob came up. I’ve been waiting for a hot minute for someone to say it!

    • @Norfirio
      @Norfirio 3 роки тому +3

      I know this is a roast, but there's no way he's not a car apologist for real based on what videos of his I've seen.

    • @dreamingflurry2729
      @dreamingflurry2729 3 роки тому +3

      @@Norfirio Well, he maybe that, but at least he's a breath of fresh air among all those car haters, who want to ban cars and/or make driving inconvenient!

    • @Natogoon
      @Natogoon 3 роки тому +3

      @@dreamingflurry2729 And rightly so. Fuck cars lmao, we should just ban them from cities.

  • @peterdibble
    @peterdibble 2 роки тому +8

    Having just stumbled on this roast of myself a year and a half later, it's only fair that I offer a rebuttal... "Hey Alan! How about you learn to spell my name next time?" 😜

    • @thetimelapseguy8
      @thetimelapseguy8 2 роки тому

      You're name always has, and will always be, Peter Dribble. To change your username and pretend otherwise doesn't change that fact.

  • @AaronTheHarris
    @AaronTheHarris 3 роки тому +8

    I like coming back to this video as I fall deeper into the rabbit hole of urbanist channels and becoming more familiar with each of them. Looking forward to 50k subs special! Missing from the list is Oh the Urbanity!

  • @Chanemus
    @Chanemus 3 роки тому +73

    I feel like Cheddar and Vox are always going to be something that I already know about or has already been extensively covered by someone on UA-cam, but somehow I always end up watching anyway.
    Also what ever happened to Michael Beach and his guitar, love his style of videos but sadly no uploads for about a year now

    • @thetrainhopper8992
      @thetrainhopper8992 3 роки тому +11

      I get the impression that Cheddar is the dumb version of Vox.

    • @brianking8080
      @brianking8080 3 роки тому +7

      Michael Beach was great.

    • @ScramJett
      @ScramJett 3 роки тому

      @@thetrainhopper8992 I did learn about balloon framing from them

    • @ghost21501
      @ghost21501 2 роки тому

      Love Michael Beach, especially since his first video on Kansas City, where I lived and now not too far from, was a straight peach of a roast. He needs to return.

  • @maxtransit
    @maxtransit 3 роки тому +52

    Sorry Alan, but those sunglasses won't shade away your tears for a nationalized railway in the U.S.

  • @AJRailfan
    @AJRailfan 3 роки тому +30

    I like the fact that you uploaded a video making fun of AmtrakGuy365 remaking his old videos and then he re-uploaded an old video almost immediately after that

    • @Token_Nerd
      @Token_Nerd 3 роки тому

      What type of EEEEEE are you?

  • @samkuzel
    @samkuzel 2 роки тому +4

    RE: Simon Whistler
    I've gone over to my dad's house and walked in on my dad watching Simon Whistler videos multiple times. Every time I'm like "hey dad, why do you look so angry? Are you ok?"
    and he's all "I fucking HATE Simon Whistler."
    And I tell him to just turn it off, and he won't.
    I do not understand what's going on there

  • @SouthLondonRailwayPhotography
    @SouthLondonRailwayPhotography 3 роки тому +70

    The Geoff Marshall roast is unbelievably easy I can’t believe you skipped it. What’s not to roast about making an entire video about how a tube line will pass through a different zone on a map?

    • @meandwhoism
      @meandwhoism 3 роки тому +2

      CHRIST I ENJOY AND HATE GUYS NEW VIDEOS SO MUCH HAHA

    • @finnersmcspeed5646
      @finnersmcspeed5646 3 роки тому +18

      Jay Foreman deserves a mention too

    • @trainluvr
      @trainluvr 3 роки тому +4

      Grown man talking to teens whilst lying on a station platform - he roasts himself just fine.

    • @julian-xy7gh
      @julian-xy7gh 3 роки тому +4

      @@finnersmcspeed5646 his London series is as unfinished as London itself
      Boom roasted

    • @trainrover
      @trainrover 2 роки тому

      his gf seemed t o o horny for that dud...no?

  • @HowtoBuildtheWorld
    @HowtoBuildtheWorld 3 роки тому +7

    Congratulations on 20k!! and sharing other urban planning channels :D X3

  • @Tezlaze
    @Tezlaze 3 роки тому +8

    This video is Awesome! Someone needs to organize an urban planning convention somewhere in the middle of the country. When that happens, Alan you can be the Host or the MC.

  • @Aquatarkus96
    @Aquatarkus96 3 роки тому +24

    Liam: I'm gonna fight someone!
    And thats why we love Liam :D

  • @MeTheOneth
    @MeTheOneth 8 місяців тому +1

    Six minutes of gently teasing various urbanist channels followed by a minute and a half brutal takedown of Wendover.
    Nice.

  • @zozzy4630
    @zozzy4630 2 роки тому +26

    I will admit, I do find Road Guy Rob refreshing because of his near-exclusive focus on car infrastructure. Apologist or not, I enjoy learning about how the world currently is nearly as much as learning how it could be. (Plus, even if it's usually milktoast and incremental, he's usually got some suggestions for improvements in there.)

  • @lucacoccioli9244
    @lucacoccioli9244 3 роки тому +15

    Some of these I took for a laugh but wendover was brutal :+( love it.

  • @fnyquist8779
    @fnyquist8779 3 роки тому +10

    There is also Life Sized City which is Not Just Bikes but if he moved to Denmark instead of the Netherlands.

    • @weetikissa
      @weetikissa 3 роки тому +1

      Not Just Bikes > Life Sized City, like a million times. Sorry. But it's true.

    • @fnyquist8779
      @fnyquist8779 3 роки тому +1

      @@weetikissa oh yeah I agree entirely. I think Life Sized City isn’t as good of a UA-cam channel. Definitely prefer Not Just Bikes style of content. The dude behind Life sized city I think is more successful with his other projects that aren’t UA-cam.

    • @chestnut4860
      @chestnut4860 2 роки тому

      @@fnyquist8779 But I'm Danish so I want to get MY ego stroked.

  • @anthonygaiman4815
    @anthonygaiman4815 3 роки тому +8

    This comment section is just a beautiful mash-up of all the good urban planing channels

  • @WiseAssGamer
    @WiseAssGamer 3 роки тому +3

    Alan Fisher, the music in your videos makes me want to walk down the street in a leisure suit.
    Sorry I had to get that one out, rock on dude.

  • @jetsons101
    @jetsons101 3 роки тому +8

    Simon Whisler, the guy with more channels than I can count puts out some good content.

    • @Stjaernljus
      @Stjaernljus 3 роки тому +7

      some of the takes he presents in videos are very very very extremely yikes presented as neuteal. [roast] He is a spineless puppet with a british accent and no moral compass that will do anything for money. [/roast]

    • @jetsons101
      @jetsons101 3 роки тому +2

      @@Stjaernljus I like his content as it's all over the map, always different. Don't mind the British accent, he is British. Besides most people on youtube are liberal so I just deal with it. T-2024

    • @Natogoon
      @Natogoon 3 роки тому

      @@Stjaernljus based
      Still, I like his content. He's my go-to UA-camr whenever I can't think of anything to watch

  • @Pensyfan19
    @Pensyfan19 3 роки тому +11

    Nice review! I did recognize a few of these channels and agree with you on some points.
    I'm also surprised you didn't list me about privatizing Amtrak and my pro Brightline opinions. One of my channel inspirations was American Rail Club.

  • @badhombre4683
    @badhombre4683 3 роки тому +73

    Loved the roast on NJB. Down and out about your country's urban planning woes? Just say duck it, move to the Netherlands, then proceed to make videos about how shitty your previous country was.

  • @AutumnBosco
    @AutumnBosco 3 роки тому +1

    Included many more small people that I watch than I expected!
    Was very good, loved each and every thing you said about the channels, some were very much a "omg yes someone finally says this" type thing.

  • @KrishnaDasLessons
    @KrishnaDasLessons 3 роки тому +6

    This motivates me to make my UA-cam channel into an urban design channel.

  • @AlphabetSoupABC
    @AlphabetSoupABC 3 роки тому +6

    Wow I never even realized how many urban planning channels I watch.
    I'm surprised you didn't roast Alan Fisher. I mean who would think making urban planning memes is a good idea? :P

  • @musicbyfishr
    @musicbyfishr 3 роки тому +6

    0:36 - Louis Cole's music in an urban planning video is the most ambitious crossover event in history

  • @Zones33
    @Zones33 3 роки тому +4

    BicycleDutch and StrongTowns: the Elders

  • @williamhuang8309
    @williamhuang8309 3 роки тому +3

    Geoff Marshall!?!?!?!?!?!?
    Jago Hazzard!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?
    Geoff Marshall is the king of waking up at odd times of the day to catch weird trains.
    Jago Hazzard is the London Underground Historian.

  • @brutustantheiii8477
    @brutustantheiii8477 3 роки тому +9

    The brilliant part is that likely the real purpose was to introduce us to other great urban planning channels
    That’s why I love it
    You may not have noticed it (at first)…but your brain did

  • @interstellarphred
    @interstellarphred 3 роки тому +7

    Planning without funding is just a stalling tactic; been there done that.

  • @Poorgeniu5
    @Poorgeniu5 2 роки тому +2

    Alan Fisher: RCR from the parallel universe

  • @minutemanmac
    @minutemanmac 3 роки тому +2

    Holy shit the City Beautiful one had me rolling!

  • @antimatter_nvf
    @antimatter_nvf 3 роки тому +7

    Fun choice for a topic x)
    I didn't get the RMtransit roast though

    • @alanthefisher
      @alanthefisher  3 роки тому +5

      A long time ago I made a joke about his audio quality so it's kinda be a running thing haha

  • @ZeroIsMany
    @ZeroIsMany 3 роки тому +14

    Huh, I specifically liked Wendover for being pure information to listen to and skip reading and researching a topic myself.

    • @benhanpeter4790
      @benhanpeter4790 2 роки тому +3

      Same, didn’t realize he even had haters lol

    • @chestnut4860
      @chestnut4860 2 роки тому +10

      @@benhanpeter4790 I legit got this channel recomended, thought "he seems smug" and then he calls out wendover for not being smug. Imagine not feeling drained listing to twitter hottakes getting told what to think mixed in with what you're trying to learn about...

    • @Cal90208
      @Cal90208 2 роки тому

      This!

  • @HamSaladtv
    @HamSaladtv 2 роки тому +6

    You described why everyone listens to WTYP!
    WHEN
    IS
    FRANKLIN?

  • @michaelsoland3293
    @michaelsoland3293 2 роки тому +2

    Time to go watch like half these channels and see if there's anything big in urban planning I've missed!

  • @jasonwhitler4167
    @jasonwhitler4167 3 роки тому +8

    Congratulations on 20k!!!!

  • @daveharrison84
    @daveharrison84 3 роки тому +10

    Jay Foreman (Unfinished London) should have been included.

    • @peterpanda5069
      @peterpanda5069 3 роки тому +6

      It’s ep 1 of Unfinished Roasts

    • @robk7266
      @robk7266 3 роки тому +3

      1:18 Me waiting for the next episode of Unfinished London.

  • @PCr4zy
    @PCr4zy 2 роки тому

    I love so much I found you channel NOW, in this disarray of youtube, where you still find unpopular roast of channels like Wendover from 12m ago.

  • @gaymoder
    @gaymoder 3 роки тому +4

    2:21 I wasn't able to pay attention to the rest of the video because I kept laughing at this joke

  • @bytemega_
    @bytemega_ 3 роки тому +11

    brilliant roasts! though i woulda mentioned the dumb-as-shit "this subway car design could save the NYC subway" video that cheddar made

  • @josephcarson8382
    @josephcarson8382 2 роки тому +2

    Road Guy Rob is focusing on other modes. might be turning a new leaf

  • @mbryson2899
    @mbryson2899 2 роки тому +4

    Simon Whistler, when you want casually incorrect snippets and words deliberately mispronounced to drive comments.

  • @clonetrooper576
    @clonetrooper576 3 роки тому +3

    i have entered the urban planning rabbit hole and thats good cause im in college for it...

  • @starinq
    @starinq 2 роки тому +3

    "For the love of god, just hire ONE foamer"
    Be real careful with what you wish for.

  • @orifox1629
    @orifox1629 3 роки тому +16

    your review of Wendover Productions has been everything i've felt about the channel. I really do want them to do better

  • @meltingtomato
    @meltingtomato 3 роки тому +2

    Finally, someone else who owns a Cooler Master Masterkeys Pro M RGB!

  • @yukidaruma4768
    @yukidaruma4768 3 роки тому +10

    What happened with Adam Something?

  • @Madwonk
    @Madwonk Рік тому +4

    It's two years later and you're still right on about NJB

  • @steph_man372
    @steph_man372 3 роки тому +2

    I'll be dead by the time the next Franklin episode is released...yeah that's pretty accurate

  • @nevreiha
    @nevreiha 2 роки тому +2

    i literally saw a B1M advert on the wall of the London Underground

  • @hwgusn
    @hwgusn 3 роки тому +2

    Statistics lecture you say?
    [finds Eco Gecko]

  • @simonsaysno
    @simonsaysno 2 роки тому +13

    Wendover is about to hit 6 million subs. I wouldn't worry if I was him. At the end of the day, he must be doing something right.

    • @tanveerhasan2382
      @tanveerhasan2382 2 роки тому

      True true

    • @Cal90208
      @Cal90208 2 роки тому +7

      The thing people here don’t like is that he doesn’t give his opinions when that’s what makes his channel so good. His job is not to provide opinions, it’s to give people a basic understanding on interesting and complex logistics. He does that well.

  • @thestargateking
    @thestargateking Рік тому +4

    That NJB roast hits harder now

  • @ddanenel
    @ddanenel 3 роки тому +40

    meh i like the wendover videos, i don’t need everything to be personal, i just expect a short peek into an interesting topic from him

  • @danielinnes8839
    @danielinnes8839 3 роки тому +2

    I wish to live to the day where Liam fights the guest on a WTYP about Portajohns

  • @ZachOfSpades1
    @ZachOfSpades1 3 роки тому +11

    I'm looking forward to this

  • @elijaha773
    @elijaha773 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for being one of the key figures who introduced me to donoteat.

  • @GetIntoItDuhh
    @GetIntoItDuhh 3 роки тому +7

    I legit dislike The B1M because all he cares about is getting things built. He could be like “this project will force 300,000 people out of their homes, but the new mega-scraper will house 500 50,000 square-meter luxury condos.”

  • @MrJimheeren
    @MrJimheeren 3 роки тому +3

    I'm not ashamed to admid I know all of these channels, fucking love me some urban planning

  • @peteradaniel
    @peteradaniel 3 роки тому +3

    Eco Gecko will always be my favourite channel.

  • @rataflechera
    @rataflechera 3 роки тому +2

    My UA-cam experience have been niched by seasons. Currently I'm in the City Planning UA-cam and, from my little experience, 😂😂😂.

  • @freebobbyshmurda4903
    @freebobbyshmurda4903 3 роки тому +2

    Congrats on 20k love the vids keep up the good work

  • @MemTMCR
    @MemTMCR 2 роки тому +1

    I am experiencing this weird sensation where I start by agreeing then 'worshipping' with some channels who all seem to be saying the same sort of things and then suddenly I notice one of them roasted the others... respectfully
    Nice.

  • @tnk4me4
    @tnk4me4 3 роки тому +3

    I'm pretty sure wendover's stuff is written by committee by some team.

  • @vaiyaktikasolarbeam1906
    @vaiyaktikasolarbeam1906 3 роки тому +4

    2:22 LMAOOOO
    4:22 BUdget.... I cant.........
    Simon Whisler? Wendover? Well yeah they made some videos about cities....

  • @mjc955
    @mjc955 3 роки тому +1

    come for the city planing, stay for the vulfpeck

  • @ErdTirdMans
    @ErdTirdMans 2 роки тому +2

    This video is proof Alan is from the Philly area