Can a world cup racer beat me on a bike 6 sizes too small?

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    This week I wanted to find out how skilled downhill world cup riders really are. To do this, I found the tallest guy in the mountain biking and put him on the smallest bike I could find. Can he still beat me without all the fancy gear? Lets find out.
    Thanks to ‪@BenCathro‬ from ‪@pinkbike‬ for agreeing to this!
    The bike I ride, Deviate Highlander 150: www.deviatecyc...
    Camera work & thumbnail: ‪@Kim_Norrie‬ (Kim Boyd)

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  • @MikeBoyd
    @MikeBoyd  Рік тому +3128

    Do you guys like the new format Pro vs n00b? I'm thinking of making maybe 4 of these episodes a year. Let me know your thoughts, positive or negative. Thanks!

  • @averyring3409
    @averyring3409 Рік тому +944

    Damn the camera setup for this one is insane, it looks like a legit race broadcast!

    • @SuperMrSik
      @SuperMrSik Рік тому +16

      the only thing that is missing is rob warner doing the commentary.

    • @daylight_exe4538
      @daylight_exe4538 Рік тому

      @@SuperMrSik well he doesn’t do it anymore

  • @chronxdev
    @chronxdev Рік тому +794

    Dang that's a HUGE difference in times from mini-bike to Mike-bike to pro-bike

    • @marshin7237
      @marshin7237 Рік тому +12

      Almost 30 seconds off Mike’s time with the big bike.

    • @rbclima
      @rbclima Рік тому +7

      Very predictable. It'd be way funnier if the big guy rode a kids bike.

    • @roberthunt6839
      @roberthunt6839 Рік тому +4

      Big difference for a race time, but look at it this way: going from a badly maintained bike with 10 year old tech and rock hard tyres (which also doesn't fit), to a top of the line race machine, made Ben about 10% faster, which isn't that much.

    • @almabatekert_villanykorte3387
      @almabatekert_villanykorte3387 Рік тому +2

      @@roberthunt6839 On a track that's already less than 2 mins long,it's quite a lot

    • @1312_PV
      @1312_PV Рік тому +1

      @@almabatekert_villanykorte3387 Yes, but there were many artificial handicaps. Give it good tires, correct size frame, months of training and trust in the bike and maintenance and it will be a much smaller difference, maybe 3 seconds.
      Over the 12 years since the "old" bike debuted some amateur might have spent up to $15000 in bikes only to be potentially three seconds faster.

  • @FrostBitn
    @FrostBitn Рік тому +687

    Ben is an absolute joy.

    • @Vespuchian
      @Vespuchian Рік тому +23

      I love how game he is for this silliness. Just a great guy having fun.

    • @daanroggeveen1103
      @daanroggeveen1103 Рік тому +7

      Yes he has such a great vibe!

  • @easygoingdude9990
    @easygoingdude9990 Рік тому +1541

    This looks dangerous af. It’s incredible how fast they’re going. I cannot even imagine how much they have to pratice

    • @TheFjoff
      @TheFjoff Рік тому +57

      i see what you did there

    • @ItsMorbinTime03
      @ItsMorbinTime03 Рік тому +11

      It looks way easier once you are on the bike.

    • @desmond-hawkins
      @desmond-hawkins Рік тому +24

      See also Mike's video about taking it easier in this sport after getting multiple concussions.

    • @57F100
      @57F100 Рік тому +11

      @@ItsMorbinTime03 I mean mostly but for me stuff like drops don't look big until you're going over the edge

    • @joblessalex
      @joblessalex Рік тому +3

      This is actually really really easy. Just looks bad.

  • @timp2751
    @timp2751 Рік тому +182

    It's not just carrying more speed but he also pumps through corners and features to gain speed. Much more use of unweighting the bike over the rougher parts as well.
    And the pros make it look so easy and composed!

    • @senderhillside7233
      @senderhillside7233 Рік тому +1

      Yeah the result was expected, just being able to qualify for Mens WC DH race finals puts Ben on top thousands of other serious DH racers. There is no chance in hell for a total amateur to beat such a rider unless they have a bad crash or mechanical.

    • @mikiex
      @mikiex Рік тому

      Get down the pump track to practice :)

  • @ChuckUFarly
    @ChuckUFarly Рік тому +223

    It‘s just nuts how good Ben is still looking on the tiny bike. You can tell his speed just from how he looks on the bike. 😂

  • @brycewalburn3926
    @brycewalburn3926 Рік тому +105

    I absolutely loved how much fun Cathro had with this.

  • @EarthlyEden1
    @EarthlyEden1 Рік тому +221

    Ben and the whole Pinkbike team are a must watch.

  • @Crowbars2
    @Crowbars2 Рік тому +93

    I'd liked to have seen Ben Cathro do the trail with his pro bike. It'd be so cool to see the similarities and differences between how he rides the bike and does the trail on the old bike vs the pro bike. And that camera set up for the trail was awesome!

    • @hannuvallin6155
      @hannuvallin6155 Рік тому

      Exactly what I was going to post :).

    • @daswienerle3018
      @daswienerle3018 Рік тому

      Yea, it would be interesting how he could really rip around some of the corners and just destroy everything

    • @h3yn0w
      @h3yn0w Рік тому +3

      10:48 , they say he did another run on his bike and took another 12 seconds off the time.

    • @Crowbars2
      @Crowbars2 Рік тому +4

      @@h3yn0w I know, I would have liked to have seen that run, rather than just knowing what the time was.

  • @chrisparti
    @chrisparti Рік тому +96

    That was fascinating, a great video... I couldn't believe Ben managed to pull out 16 seconds, when you consider he was riding a bike 6 sizes too small, that he's never ridden before, that is 10 years old, un-maintained, with 26" wheels, on track he had ridden down once, compared to your intimate knowledge of the track... You are no mug on a MTB, so it shows how incredible these pro's are... great video to highlight that..

  • @hunterG60k
    @hunterG60k Рік тому +19

    I've never heard of Ben before but I really enjoyed this video with him, he seems like a good laugh and comes across really well on screen.
    Also, as soon as you asked if he could beat you my immediate thought was, "Yes, yes he can." Not because you're not good but because I know how good you have to be at stuff to make it look as easy as world champs do, entirely different class :)

    • @HahaYes
      @HahaYes Рік тому

      Wholesome horseperson. Have a good day

  • @colbysmith3026
    @colbysmith3026 Рік тому +43

    This collab is a massive win for us downhill riders. Good stuff

  • @Florkl
    @Florkl Рік тому +19

    He sounds like he’s having so much fun! So wholesome!

  • @queazeproductions
    @queazeproductions Рік тому +23

    Quite the insane production with all those camera angles along the track. Loved this episode.

  • @Dan-uy2ld
    @Dan-uy2ld Рік тому +21

    Mike's last few videos have been amazing, he's killing it right now

  • @gruber450
    @gruber450 Рік тому +12

    Good lil pratice run 5:13

  • @andrewhackenmueller5825
    @andrewhackenmueller5825 Рік тому +4

    I love that you mountain bike, and cube. This is one of my favorite channels for the array of hobbies I have, and you encompass all of them, making no video dull

  • @thehighground4920
    @thehighground4920 Рік тому +45

    Mike you should make a seperate mountain biking channel, I can tell how much of a love you have for it

  • @Tyletoful
    @Tyletoful Рік тому +1

    I have seen your ads for dailypuzzles and I have been a 3x3 guy that casually solves it as just a thing to keep my hands busy for about 10 years now, there is no speed in my solves but you've got me more interested in trying to improve myself with it and the Speedcubers documentary got me wanting to get more into the hobby. It took this many ad breaks to convince me, but I just bought a 5x5x5 and a bluetooth cube for myself and a Pyraminx for my nephew. Thanks for showing me their great products. I actually left a $10 tip at the end of the checkout, because the prices I got felt so unbelievably low that I can tell that the company truly is in it for the love of what they do and aren't there trying to nickel and dime everybody. Nobody might even read this, but just in case somebody from Mike's team sees, I just wanted to say thanks.

  • @jackpiki
    @jackpiki Рік тому +5

    Mike, if you're a noob after 15 years then I've never even seen a bike before (been riding for 2 years). Phenomenal video and shots, please never stop making MTB content every once in a while, ride safe brother 🔥🤘

  • @somathebest
    @somathebest Рік тому +15

    Tiny bike was a great idea but c'mon Mike! THAT GUY HAS FULL CONTROL SHOCK ABSORBERS AS LEGS 🤣Like from Spain!

  • @Stoo61
    @Stoo61 Рік тому +12

    Had a 2013 Orange 5. Loved it. Did anyone not love a 5 back in the day? Ballo is sick too!

    • @georgefeneley4892
      @georgefeneley4892 Рік тому +1

      My mates got a patriot and I've got a 2015 5 we still love riding them though mine is technically my dads so I'm saving for my own Kona stinky or stab

  • @FinduroVR
    @FinduroVR Рік тому +1

    Its so cool to be able to watch the physical differences in the ways you both ride, it just goes to show how much of mtb is the rider, not the bike! I will say though, there is a few key techniques separating "normal" mtb riders to downhill racers, which anyone can learn and improve upon with just a bit of practice! First is the braking- Ben is braking much farther up the trail before his corners to maximize his comfort in the turns, making sure that he won't slide but carries as much speed as possible. Cornering is a lot easier when you aren't braking in the corners and having to pedal out, and that is where Ben gained the majority of his time. The rest was his more dynamic attitude on flatter straight sections, using even small bumps and rolls as pumps and jumps to gain extra speed- which then adds up saved time over the length of a track. Pump tracks are a great place to practice that motion, and when you're riding trails focusing on a playful, bouncy riding style while staying sturdy and balanced can help find areas where you can gain that extra speed safely and in an enjoyable way. A combination of pumping and body positioning, and braking at the right times with the right power, helped Ben win this race. Was a pleasure to watch, would love to see more stuff like this in the future!!

  • @robbrennan-craddock1896
    @robbrennan-craddock1896 Рік тому +20

    Like the new format! Instead of a handicap for the pro, would be fun to see if there are any activities where you could secretly cheat as in your recent chess vids.
    Also, great camerawork on this one, would be v. interested in a BTS!

  • @marshm3llow467
    @marshm3llow467 Рік тому +17

    I was kind of having difficulty connecting with how fun it seemed for Ben to ride on the tiny bike before I remembered that time I got to play a 1/2 size violin after playing my full size for ten years and how hilarious and enjoyable that was, so it's nice to know this is a cross-discipline experience! Excellent video :)

  • @maura462
    @maura462 Рік тому +7

    It was cool that you made it harder for him but also had the pro time on his regular bike, just to see the difference. Awesome video

  • @jackwilliams1468
    @jackwilliams1468 Рік тому +52

    The fact that there is ONLY 12 seconds between Ben on the mini bike vs his bike shows how much skill he has

    • @kmbrock
      @kmbrock Рік тому +16

      12s diff in a race that’s less than 2 mins is a pretty big lead

    • @jackwilliams1468
      @jackwilliams1468 Рік тому +1

      @@kmbrock yeah fair enough

  • @MarinusMakesStuff
    @MarinusMakesStuff Рік тому +40

    Switched my normal commuter bike frame from a 50cm for a 55cm frame and the difference was IMMENSE. I had so under estimated how much of a difference this would make...

    • @JH-fk8ow
      @JH-fk8ow Рік тому +1

      You could have easily tuned that 50cm commuter frame to 55cm fit, by changing to longer stem, dif seattube angle. But its harder to fit larger frame for smaller fit.
      Pro roadbikers typically use several sizes smaller frames with longer stem, since the smaller frame is not just lighter but also stiffer in the main triangle of the frame.

  • @Enn-
    @Enn- Рік тому +3

    There's something special about watching someone do something with excellence. People that are really good at what they do are fantastic!

  • @ThePlacehole
    @ThePlacehole Рік тому +42

    I don't think this tells the entire story until YOU set the time with that bike.

  • @gfloyd2002
    @gfloyd2002 Рік тому

    Love the pro vs. noob series. I've always been awed when I've met professionals, even when I think I'm decent at the skill involved. They are just another level. The idea of handicapping them and competing head to head, probably to be trounced, is a genius way to showcase how truly elite an elite performer is. I look forward to more.

  • @tmass1
    @tmass1 Рік тому +3

    it's interesting how much more the pros manipulate, twist, and pump the bike compared to normal people who just sit on it and ride it.

  • @gavincfc
    @gavincfc Рік тому +3

    Great to see u on your bike after ur injuries. Nice one man

  • @Alex46312
    @Alex46312 Рік тому +1

    Used to have a poster of that bike on my wall as a kid. No idea how the head angle seemed so normal back then ha.

  • @mikab.4838
    @mikab.4838 Рік тому +2

    i totally expected mike to win because i (someone that knows nothing about mountain biking) thought "well he has a better bike so he would obviously win". but as i saw cathro just speed through those sharp corners i got more and more in awe and excited about the result. great video, i loved it!

    • @SamuelKGunther
      @SamuelKGunther Рік тому +1

      In the mountain bike racing world yes the bike you ride is important, but I’ve seen people riding early 2000’s hard tails with crappy parts smoke people with 10k+ bikes. Yes good bikes are beneficial but skill is really what makes or breaks a rider

  • @gregmossed
    @gregmossed Рік тому +1

    Thanks for adding that mention of his time on a modern bike. Woulda been a shame not to.

  • @lukecasey242
    @lukecasey242 Рік тому +1

    This is the crossover I didn't know I needed

  • @jbw5485
    @jbw5485 Рік тому +1

    Ben is such an awesome dude. I love watching the videos he does on Pink Bike. He’s always in such a great mood.

  • @WaechterDerNacht
    @WaechterDerNacht Рік тому +1

    Been waiting for this combination again since episode 1 of series 1 of "How to Bike".
    Like that format! Looking forward to what else you're gonna try...

  • @J1NX123
    @J1NX123 Рік тому +7

    Seeing Ben on that bike is great. I usually see him on bikes that fit. 🤣

  • @matthewbowers88
    @matthewbowers88 Рік тому

    Ben is such a laugh. He's a legend but he's so easy to watch. I went full sonic with my head bobbing left and right. Mike, err it looks like you had a nice day.

  • @IeshiAke
    @IeshiAke Рік тому +5

    Seeing Mike standing next to Ben reminds me of that meme of Tyler1 next to a tall woman

  • @rickbiessman6084
    @rickbiessman6084 7 місяців тому

    Dang, even the first few meters look soooo good for Ben. Such an amazing guy!

  • @baldweezy2362
    @baldweezy2362 Рік тому +2

    Idk Shit about this sport or hobby. But if it’s a boyd video, I’m supporting 200%. Great video mate.

  • @bikesandsnowmobiles3308
    @bikesandsnowmobiles3308 Рік тому +4

    Have to say, loved the video, especially the race run overlay, looked really cool, although I am probably biased as a mtber myself

  • @RyzawaVT
    @RyzawaVT Рік тому +1

    Ben was a blast and this series is a keeper!

  • @ruisearts
    @ruisearts Рік тому

    More of this please, that was a wicked video.

  • @stew_redman
    @stew_redman Рік тому

    So glad to se you're one of the few UA-camrs not pushing the Established Titles scam

  • @trajectory3156
    @trajectory3156 Рік тому

    before watching, I think ben will win.
    Edit: yeah, like mike said, the difference between a good rider and a pro is incredible and deceiving
    another great video from mike! and a great cameraman/woman!

  • @Rejinx
    @Rejinx Рік тому +3

    This reminds me of what Brian Scalabrine, an Ex Pro NBA Bench player, said about being challenged by high school and collage kids. He said "On my worst day I am closer to beating Lebron James than you are to beating me." The fact is at the highest levels of a sport the differences can be huge.

  • @Aiika__
    @Aiika__ Рік тому +1

    Goes to show it isnt all about the tool you're using, its about skill and technique. Ben smashed it on that tiny thing

  • @rodrigotando
    @rodrigotando Рік тому

    Do more of this type of video!!! Noob x Pro!! Amazing as always Mike

  • @dfunited1
    @dfunited1 Рік тому +1

    Mike you inspired me to learn a new skill! Today was Day 1 of practicing writing with my left hand.

  • @LBletter
    @LBletter Рік тому +4

    love the mtb/downhill content!
    Thanks!

  • @MarieVanMeulder
    @MarieVanMeulder Рік тому +1

    When you said 'the smallest bike I could find', I totally expected a kids bike lol.

  • @natelance9526
    @natelance9526 Рік тому

    what a great video - ben seems very light hearted and genuine, seems like you both had a great time filming this!

  • @justinnewman13
    @justinnewman13 Рік тому +1

    WOW this is eye opening! Unreal to think he could still cut 12 seconds off a 1:41 time for his 3rd run

  • @sojiro288
    @sojiro288 Рік тому +1

    not sure if that spelling mistake was intentional but i found it pretty funny, "pratice run"

  • @ArchLali
    @ArchLali Рік тому

    The only sponsor I don’t get bored off, knowing how you got it from the rubric cube video. Thank you Mike for another awesome video ❤

  • @Tornroot
    @Tornroot Рік тому +6

    5:12 Ben didn't even have a praCtice run, only had a pratice run.
    Love the new format though.

  • @notanengineer
    @notanengineer Рік тому +1

    Very close to 3 Million!

  • @Deanasis
    @Deanasis Рік тому

    I've been mtbing longer than youtube has been around. And a fan of your videos for a long while. I'm very pleased to see you making great mtb content. Keep it up!

  • @Alex46312
    @Alex46312 Рік тому +1

    Nice filming on the time runs.

  • @felixblue_
    @felixblue_ Рік тому

    looks like a real race broadcast! awesome commentary as well, great work!

  • @Chrisjvance
    @Chrisjvance Рік тому +1

    Good job he had his pratice run!
    Another great video mike!

  • @TheMrBush
    @TheMrBush Рік тому +1

    I really loved the pratice run

  • @lukasa1026
    @lukasa1026 Рік тому

    i'm so happy that you made another a vid ben

  • @npexception
    @npexception Рік тому +2

    Pratice makes perfet.

  • @LukaPaja
    @LukaPaja Рік тому

    Brilliant video. What a lovely cheerful funny tall bloke.

  • @davidfranco9987
    @davidfranco9987 Рік тому

    Loved this new format 💯

  • @xserv8170
    @xserv8170 Рік тому +3

    Your videos lately are so good

  • @ocbyn
    @ocbyn Рік тому

    Looks like a blast. More please

  • @tocov
    @tocov Рік тому +1

    People sometimes fail to understand how huge of a difference there is between a pro athlete and an amateur.
    You can take for example a tennis player who is ranked like 1000 in the ATP ranking and he will still absolutely clown any amateur. With an extreme difference.

  • @markmccall9027
    @markmccall9027 3 місяці тому

    I've still got my ancient Orange 5 frame too! Loved that bike. Perhaps it's time for a spares box rebuild!?

  • @blusoda0021
    @blusoda0021 Рік тому +1

    Hey that old Orange 5 is awesome.

  • @sl0m0_
    @sl0m0_ Рік тому

    KING CATHRO 👑 i bow down to king of Big Guys everywhere

  • @echologic3918
    @echologic3918 Рік тому +4

    Pratice run

  • @erik4177
    @erik4177 Рік тому

    Love to see how much fun you're having. Great video! (stay active please lol)

  • @jesseshort8
    @jesseshort8 Рік тому

    It's crazy how it goes from lush green to a dead conifer section and back. Pretty cool.

  • @11colinw
    @11colinw Рік тому +4

    I love the MTB contents and you bike is sick!!

  • @tommyr95
    @tommyr95 Рік тому

    Ben's awesome! Love his contributions to Pinkbike.

  • @bullseye0112
    @bullseye0112 Рік тому

    One of the best videos I've seen in a long time !!

  • @auto1226
    @auto1226 Рік тому +3

    5:12 "pratice run"

  • @AbimbolaAjayi
    @AbimbolaAjayi Рік тому

    Definitely love this format, in fact all your video ideas are 👌🏽

  • @iroh66
    @iroh66 Рік тому +2

    Mike, this just came to me in a shining vision: I want you to do a learn quick with Jiu Jitsu.

  • @steelzMan
    @steelzMan Рік тому

    Had Ben rode his downhill bike in Pink Bike Racing, he would have shaved ANOTHER 12 seconds of the megatower!!

  • @danielsal5442
    @danielsal5442 Рік тому +2

    How many camera guys do you have? Or could it have been filmed with one and lots of takes?

  • @melwalshmtb9121
    @melwalshmtb9121 Рік тому +1

    Love these Cathro collabs!

  • @ravenblackwing7888
    @ravenblackwing7888 Рік тому

    “Pratice Run” -Mike Boyd 2022

  • @KDEDflyr55
    @KDEDflyr55 Рік тому

    I'd watch Ben Cathro make coffee or like, mow the lawn. The guy is pure charisma

  • @jeffreydzialo
    @jeffreydzialo Рік тому

    You should have had Cathro ride his downhill bike. The tight twisting track might have been slow on a long bike, with lots of squish. But i think you were in for it, regardless.

  • @RichardWinskill
    @RichardWinskill Рік тому +2

    Ah good, I was hoping we'd get a time for his actual bike 👍

  • @Rulerofwax24
    @Rulerofwax24 Рік тому

    I knew this would be a blowout, maybe just from how it was setup. I can't imagine there are that many things where a pro can be seriously hampered by beginner gear - they're a pro for a reason. I'm reminded of an old series from DigitalRev that gave basically toy cameras to professionals and they were still able to make some really interesting shots.

  • @pivotcycles-ote8083
    @pivotcycles-ote8083 Рік тому

    Love love the world cup feel for those race runs!!! Great video keep it up!

  • @Vas1
    @Vas1 Рік тому +3

    Just about to hit 3 million subcribers I see. Let's gooo!

  • @Henrix1998
    @Henrix1998 Рік тому

    Cathro understands grip so so so much better

  • @jekanyika
    @jekanyika Рік тому +1

    I've watched enough Sam Pilgrim to know that the rider is way more important that the bike.

  • @kherthy
    @kherthy Рік тому +1

    This new format is pretty cool, though a little bit more insight on the technical aspect of each field (future videos) would be nice.

  • @andymoss4285
    @andymoss4285 Рік тому

    I knew cathro was Lankey, but he makes Mike look like an ewok😂 also that deviate looks swish