This is almost like imitating classic lever machine pressure profile. I guess you will have quite med to high body with strong flavors without over extracting. Brilliant.
you should do a video to show exactly how to achieve the same using the paddle, with and without pre infusion. to highlight the same/differences to having or not having the V3 upgrade.
Well noted, i shall do that when i have the machine on my Coffee Bar here. At Italy we did not really have much time to explore further. Thank you so much for your suggestion, will do that
Handy video, expains it much more clearly than the user guide. I think a decent diagram and/or renaming the menus would help a lot, even the Lelit expert got the settings mixed up one time! I love my bianca V3 and with preinfusion and low flow can leave it set at my regular settings and only play with the paddle when I want to experiment. One feature request would be a 'manual override' or 'use just the paddle' option which temporarily disables any preinfusion/low flow settings for one shot then returns to the presets.
I think i know what you mean. We should be able to save our setting (Preset 1 and preset 2), then we can activate or deactivate whenever we want to, will convey this to LELIT HQ
@@StefanusGoanaYes this would be a great firmware upgrade! It would also aid with the ability to turn auto profiling on/off in one option instead of having to disable each individual menu item. So all the low flow and pre-infusion menus would belong to a parent menu called something like "Auto Profile". You could also allow for up to 5 auto profiles. The menu would go something like Auto Profile Enable? [ON/OFF], IF ON THEN display sub menu to enable Auto profiles. E.g. Auto Profile 1 > ON [Pre inf on, pre infusion start, low flow start, low flow final]. Only one Auto Profile can be enabled at a time, so Auto Profile 2-5 would be OFF. Also, in the advanced manual diagrams it is very hard to understand how the functions work. It would be clearer to first explain what time is set for each setting in each example, and then have the diagrams clearly labelled to indicate where the Low Flow START, Pre-infusion ON and Pre-infusion OFF begins and ends.
Hi Stefanus, what are your suggestions/expreriences? When should one use Low Flow or Preinfusion? For how lon? For what kind of beans? I would like to have some kind of a starting point, some general suggestions. Or do you have to start with every bean new? First without Preinfusion/LowFlow, then activating the one or the other?
Do you happen to know is the new standby mode possible to be turned off (I read that this mode turns both boilers off after 30 mins of inactivity)? I didn't find information about this yet.
Hi Stefanus, after looking for Victoria, then Elizabeth I finally decided that it's gonna be a Bianca V3. Those features are so well thought and superior to other E61 machines. And I'm already waiting on the V4 upgrade (Added 3 position switch for custom/factory pressure profiling presets and more pressure profiling ability, Lelit can do that!) 🙂 What can you say about the heat up time of Bianca? I read that Lelit implemented a special heat up program where the brew boiler heats up to 120-125°C to speed up the heating of the E61 group. And so Bianca should be ready to brew in about 20 minutes. Can you confirm that.
Hi for E61 grouphead no matter what i think we still need time for the grouohead to be ready as well. So heating up boiler is easy and can be done faster but the whole experience has to be the same too: 1. Cup warmer: cups should be hot enough 2. grouphead and portafilter should be hot as well Then we are super ready
Hi there back in my country many are using Bianca, even MaraX, Elizabeth. If you ever heard of Starbike they even use Anna. So depend on how many cups are you planning to serve per day, for Bianca around 50 cups is perfect
@StefanusGoana Thx Stefanus, but I don't need silent pump. I just want to use preinfusion features like bloom preinfusion. For this is necessary new pump?
hi om stefanus apakah anda mengetahui cara memperbaiki lelit marax ? masalah lelit marax punya saya , pump pressure selalu stuck di 4 bar , padahal sudah saya coba juga ovp nya di setting , tapi tetap tidak ada hasilnya , selain itu air yg keluar di saluran driptay lebih banyak keluar dari pada biasa nya , masalah itu semua terjadi ketika saya ganti solenoid 3way valve . mohon tips nya ya om terimakasih , sehat selalu om stefanus 🙏
I was wondering the same thing. At 2:04, it sounds like he's asking this question and is told that you can do the upgrade. You'll likely have to buy some new parts?
Thank you for the video, really informative! How can we tell if we get the new V3 version or V2 if we order a Bianca in March 2022? Will some V3 have the red logo sticker but upgraded LCC/solenoid or all V3 have new black logo like Mara X?
You can't, but it is so easy and cheap to buy a $10 smart plug. Even better you can control your smart plug from your handphone. I'm a random person doesn't wake up and sleep the same time, so when i'm free to pass by my home for a quick coffee i turn it on while drive to home and when i reach home its ready to brew. Before i sleep, i set the timer for tomorrow morning as well. If you always wake up at 7 then smart plug can be programmed just like your alarm clock
@@StefanusGoana yes. That's what im asking mate. Can a V2 machine upgrade to V3 by upgrading the LCC and solenoid valve? Is it doable cause the response from Mauro in the video isn't too convincing.
@@puricholay4177 ohh ok upgrade V2 to V3 is very much doable. But it is not advised for you to do it yourself thats what he meant. unti now as well we haven't received confirmation about price to upgrade
Haha that digital interface is sooooo bad the host of interview can’t even work it out as a sales rep of the brand. And they have to cut the video to remove their struggle to work out how to set lo flow. Nice machine. But the interface is from 2003. 5:54
Hi thanks for the comment but rest assure the reason i may cut the video is to shorten it and not to make it boring. 5:54 looks fine to me. Pre infusion usually between 2-4 Low flow can be 4-6 Then full 9 bar Back to 4-6 low flow again and stop.
is there a part 2? ;)
Yes for sure, 2nd feature to make this machine a killer
@@StefanusGoana oooh get it locked and loaded :) SUBSCRIBED!
@@danielwolman Thank you so much. Spread the good news as well with all friends who is considering a new espresso machine or upgrade
This is almost like imitating classic lever machine pressure profile. I guess you will have quite med to high body with strong flavors without over extracting. Brilliant.
This machine is perfect for an excellent espresso and worth having one at home!
Definitely classic.
you should do a video to show exactly how to achieve the same using the paddle, with and without pre infusion. to highlight the same/differences to having or not having the V3 upgrade.
Well noted, i shall do that when i have the machine on my Coffee Bar here. At Italy we did not really have much time to explore further. Thank you so much for your suggestion, will do that
Handy video, expains it much more clearly than the user guide. I think a decent diagram and/or renaming the menus would help a lot, even the Lelit expert got the settings mixed up one time!
I love my bianca V3 and with preinfusion and low flow can leave it set at my regular settings and only play with the paddle when I want to experiment. One feature request would be a 'manual override' or 'use just the paddle' option which temporarily disables any preinfusion/low flow settings for one shot then returns to the presets.
I think i know what you mean. We should be able to save our setting (Preset 1 and preset 2), then we can activate or deactivate whenever we want to, will convey this to LELIT HQ
@@StefanusGoanaYes this would be a great firmware upgrade! It would also aid with the ability to turn auto profiling on/off in one option instead of having to disable each individual menu item. So all the low flow and pre-infusion menus would belong to a parent menu called something like "Auto Profile". You could also allow for up to 5 auto profiles. The menu would go something like Auto Profile Enable? [ON/OFF], IF ON THEN display sub menu to enable Auto profiles. E.g. Auto Profile 1 > ON [Pre inf on, pre infusion start, low flow start, low flow final]. Only one Auto Profile can be enabled at a time, so Auto Profile 2-5 would be OFF.
Also, in the advanced manual diagrams it is very hard to understand how the functions work. It would be clearer to first explain what time is set for each setting in each example, and then have the diagrams clearly labelled to indicate where the Low Flow START, Pre-infusion ON and Pre-infusion OFF begins and ends.
Can’t wait for part 2
Hi Stefanus, what are your suggestions/expreriences? When should one use Low Flow or Preinfusion? For how lon? For what kind of beans? I would like to have some kind of a starting point, some general suggestions. Or do you have to start with every bean new? First without Preinfusion/LowFlow, then activating the one or the other?
There is no rules, you have 360 days in a year to explore 🤪😂
My bad luck! 😭 I just received my v2!! 😓 Why don't they announce on their upgrades ahead enough time! I should've be awaiting for the v3!! 😔
Pretty sure there's a large price jump, up to 20%. Might actually be cheaper to upgrade a v2 rather than but a v3
@@Drift-yf4rn I don't believe that all modifications can be upgraded on v2
@@moryalex As far as I know it's a new LCC and a solenoid valve to control flow from pump.
Do you happen to know is the new standby mode possible to be turned off (I read that this mode turns both boilers off after 30 mins of inactivity)? I didn't find information about this yet.
You can Set the time and also Set it to off.
Is it possible to have multiple profiles and or to recall them
Unfortunately not
Great info and thanks for sharing. MANTUL!!!
Mantul juga Gan
11:01 Hi Stefanus, why does it seem like the machine increases the pressure momentarily after pulling down the lever?
Not very sure
Nice 👍
Hola genial el video, lo puedes hacer en español.?
Sorry i can't
Hi Stefanus,
after looking for Victoria, then Elizabeth I finally decided that it's gonna be a Bianca V3. Those features are so well thought and superior to other E61 machines. And I'm already waiting on the V4 upgrade (Added 3 position switch for custom/factory pressure profiling presets and more pressure profiling ability, Lelit can do that!) 🙂
What can you say about the heat up time of Bianca? I read that Lelit implemented a special heat up program where the brew boiler heats up to 120-125°C to speed up the heating of the E61 group. And so Bianca should be ready to brew in about 20 minutes. Can you confirm that.
Hi for E61 grouphead no matter what i think we still need time for the grouohead to be ready as well.
So heating up boiler is easy and can be done faster but the whole experience has to be the same too:
1. Cup warmer: cups should be hot enough
2. grouphead and portafilter should be hot as well
Then we are super ready
When is the upgrade kit available?
You have to change LCC and the new Solenoid Valve. I think it should be availabe in March or April. I think in Europe is already available
Does Lelit Bianca v3 is suitable for a small coffee shop/bakery?
Hi there back in my country many are using Bianca, even MaraX, Elizabeth. If you ever heard of Starbike they even use Anna. So depend on how many cups are you planning to serve per day, for Bianca around 50 cups is perfect
Is it enough to just change the lcc on my elizabeth v2 machine to use the lcc features in lelit elizabeth v3?
For Elizabeth you need to change the vibration pump
@StefanusGoana Thx Stefanus, but I don't need silent pump. I just want to use preinfusion features like bloom preinfusion. For this is necessary new pump?
@@zgrcff yes not necessary
hi om stefanus
apakah anda mengetahui cara memperbaiki lelit marax ?
masalah lelit marax punya saya , pump pressure selalu stuck di 4 bar , padahal sudah saya coba juga ovp nya di setting , tapi tetap tidak ada hasilnya , selain itu air yg keluar di saluran driptay lebih banyak keluar dari pada biasa nya , masalah itu semua terjadi ketika saya ganti solenoid 3way valve .
mohon tips nya ya om terimakasih , sehat selalu om stefanus 🙏
Hi boleh kita usahakan. Whatsapp aja yah, bisa dilihat pada description video ini
@@StefanusGoana baik terimakasih 😊
Bro, if I have ver 2 than I can upgrade to ver 3? If can, than I am interested
I was wondering the same thing. At 2:04, it sounds like he's asking this question and is told that you can do the upgrade. You'll likely have to buy some new parts?
Slow low soul flow profile . Nice tongue breaker 🤣
Yeah man, really sorry about that. i was supposed to say Low Flow but naturally felt like Slow Flow is a better term LOL
Thank you for the video, really informative! How can we tell if we get the new V3 version or V2 if we order a Bianca in March 2022? Will some V3 have the red logo sticker but upgraded LCC/solenoid or all V3 have new black logo like Mara X?
I suggest to look at its LCC. In the new version you will have low flow setting as a new feature
I'm pretty sure you'll know if you get v3, doesn't it cost more?
@@Drift-yf4rn yes some shop sell higher as it is a hot cake now
Version 3 which year?
This is for 2022 March, however i believe it is already available in Europe
Can we expect the same for Mara X?
I don't think so, we don't have LCC to control this
@@StefanusGoana Thanks. I really hope we'll see cheaper variation of Bianca, like Mara X with profiling. (Mara X Plus) :)
Can you program it to auto start in the morning ?
You can't, but it is so easy and cheap to buy a $10 smart plug. Even better you can control your smart plug from your handphone.
I'm a random person doesn't wake up and sleep the same time, so when i'm free to pass by my home for a quick coffee i turn it on while drive to home and when i reach home its ready to brew.
Before i sleep, i set the timer for tomorrow morning as well.
If you always wake up at 7 then smart plug can be programmed just like your alarm clock
@@StefanusGoana thanks , I was wondering if a smart plug would work with it since it is a push button and not a switch .
@@asselinpower no problem at all it works perfectly
Can I do this with Elizabeth?
Yes we are hoping for Elizabeth X, lets wait and see but my guess it will only be available next year
When?
I'm guessing you are in US, then should ask Jim when his new machines will arrive in US Soil
How much does it cost to upgrade to v3?
3000
Can you update to V3 from V2?
Wht do you see here low flow is new feature that doesn't exist in the previous model
@@StefanusGoana yes. That's what im asking mate. Can a V2 machine upgrade to V3 by upgrading the LCC and solenoid valve?
Is it doable cause the response from Mauro in the video isn't too convincing.
@@puricholay4177 ohh ok upgrade V2 to V3 is very much doable. But it is not advised for you to do it yourself thats what he meant.
unti now as well we haven't received confirmation about price to upgrade
Haha that digital interface is sooooo bad the host of interview can’t even work it out as a sales rep of the brand. And they have to cut the video to remove their struggle to work out how to set lo flow. Nice machine. But the interface is from 2003. 5:54
Hi thanks for the comment but rest assure the reason i may cut the video is to shorten it and not to make it boring. 5:54 looks fine to me.
Pre infusion usually between 2-4
Low flow can be 4-6
Then full 9 bar
Back to 4-6 low flow again and stop.