Austin is the friend I never had growing up. Man I wish I had a fellow soundtrack lover in my life that I could geek out with. These podcasts are the closest I may ever get. Thanks for putting them together, I just love them. Goldsmith is my all time fave, so these are just wonderful.
Could we please have one more Goldsmith episode where you delve into Troy's statement of "monetizing your passion" explored via the experience of the orchestra/choir performing Ave Satani from The Omen? I can't imagine that content wasn't a stretch for some of the performers and yet... what a performance! I get the sense Troy may not have heard / seen The Omen - he doesn't react when it's been mentioned. The tensions of belief vs job would be interesting to explore.
they call it parasocial relationship, i call it friendship by proxy. these are the conversations i want to have more. thanks to you i never feel like my theoretical insertions remain unheard or unanswered. especially in tmes of covid, when the possibility of having real life discussions like that are severly limited, i am so thankful for the existence of all of this.
LOVE this. Keep it up! Many themes of his are still so fresh in my mind YEARS later from being played on repeat. Work like his was so wholesome, there's still much to breakdown & take from it even now. Personally I feel the whole approach to "No Time To Die" could be argued as an attempt for that Goldsmith memorability, sure on the other side of the coin it's "another Bond theme" -- listen to how it's mastered. That's Eilish singing too BTW! Put on Chinatown's theme -- whether intentional or not his influence is still very much present & ty for taking the time to highlight that!
That documentary where the contractor mentions the casual request of the Duduk is so damn good. Its from "The River Wild" dvd i think! I have it on a hard drive for use as a pick-me-up between scores. Countless tasty nuggets.
I've been binging these straight through, and every episode, I think, "It's the TANGENT SHOW," and start to want to scream "JUST PLAY THE TRACK," but then I love the tangents because you guys have such great stories that I forget there was a track to listen to, and now I totally see how there will be an Ep. 5, Part 35.
You Gotta Hear This : Episode 5 - Part 2 - Reference List : * Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon - 1973 * Jeffrey Scott Buckley - Singer - Songwriter - Guitarist * Forest Gump - Film - 1994 - Dir Robert Zemeckis - Music Composer Alan Silvestri * The Russian House - Film - 1990 - Dir Fred Schepisi - Music Composer Jerry Goldsmith * Michael Kamen - Music Composer * David Sandborn - Saxophonist * Branford Marsalis - Saxophonist - Jazz Composer * Wynton Marsalis - Trumpeter - Composer * Sting - Musician * The Police - Rock Band * Bring on the Night - 1985 - - Music Documentary - Dir Michael Apted * Miles Copeland - Manager - Producer * Kenneth David Kirkland - Pianist - Keyboardist * Live from Abbey Road - Performance Documentary Series * The Fog of War - 2003 - Documentary - Dir Errol Morris * Seven Days in May - 1964 - Film - Dir John Frankenheimer - Music Composer Jerry Goldsmith * Michael Lang - Pianist * Duduk - Armenian Instrument * Gladiator - Film - 2000 - Dir Ridley Scott - Musical Composer Hans Zimmer * Film Music Master : Jerry Goldsmith - 1995 - Documentary * Armen Vaghinaki Grigoryan - Duduk Player ??? No too sure about that one sorry * N.W.H - ( Niggaz With Hats) - Fictional Band from the Film - Fear of a Black Hat - 1993 * N.W.A - ( Niggaz Wit Attitudes ) - Hip Hop Band * P.I.D - ( Preachers in Disguise ) - Christian Hip Hop * The Shawshank Redemption - Film - 1994 - Dir Frank Darabont - Music Composer Thomas Newman * American Beauty - Film - 1999 - Dir Sam Mendes - Music Composer Thomas Newman * Alien Nation - Film - 1988 - Dir Graham Baker - Music Composer Jerry Goldsmith Thanks Austin & Troy for this great Episode ! Take care
Jerry Goldsmith earlier on in his career wasn't as confortable with Jazz as say John Williams, Dave Grusin or Quincy Jones. But I think he really did a great job here later in his career with Branford Marsalis improvising bits of the score. It sounds very similar to something that John Barry would write, which fits in a funny way, since it's a spy thriller/lovestory with Sean Connery, also I think I read somewhere that John Barry was one of Jerry Goldsmith's favourite composers.
Really glad to hear you discuss Russia House. I recall so well waiting on line outside the theater to go in for the movie. The previous screening was still playing when they opened the doors and that glorious end title cue spilled out into the street. I was entranced even before going into the auditorium. Ever since it's been one of my favorite Goldsmith scores.
With the Candyman sequel/reboot coming out soon and hopefully reviving interest in the original, would love to have you spotlight Philip Glass, and also another Minimalist scorer and my personal favorite, Michael Nyman.
It’s so cool that you have this deep admiration for Jerry Goldsmith! I’m very much the same way when it comes to James Horner! To add about using untraditional instruments, James Horner used an Irish pan flute ensemble for Field of Dreams and of course he loved to use the Shakuhachi even before Zorro! You can hear it in Willow and Honey, I Shrunk the Kids! Could it be that people credit Hans Zimmer because he made the Duduk and other ethnic instruments the foreground? Whereas Goldsmith and Horner used them as colors? So to the average film goer or listener Gladiator’s score just stands out…snd then *bam* massive hit also?
Always one of the highlights of the week for me. Austin, know that you guys are making a lot of music nerds happy with these fantastic vids. Keep it up!
Would love to see you break down Zimmer and his works. It blew my mind when I was watching the Wesley Snipes film Drop Zone and I was like 'IS THAT THE PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN THEME KICKING IN?!'. And ofcourse you can hear variations throughout his works (Hammerhead, Broken Arrow and of course in Gladiator to name but just a couple).
Here's a weird question: Are there Film Composer equivalents of "One Hit Wonders"? I'd be curious to know if there are composers out there that become known for one piece of score that they're not able to seperate themselves from (which may also serve as a typecasting, of sorts). If I had to guess, I could see this being the case for many old TV composers.
Barry Gray , not known for one thing specifically, but tell me anything you know of his that isn’t a Gerry Anderson production, I even have the no strings attached record which is a really strange sized Lp
I wanted to ask you Austin if you have seen the Spitfire Audio competitions? A year or two ago they did one with a Westworld clip and right now they are doing one for Stargirl on the CW. I thought it would be interesting to hear your thoughts on the variety of submissions from different levels of amateur to semi-professional composers. You should check out the finalists for the Westworld competition and if you chose to share your thoughts I would love to hear it. I am submitting one for the Stargirl competition because it is a lot of fun for a hobbyist composer like myself. Love this series btw, I love doing this with my friends as I am the resident film score nerd in my circle. Have a great weekend!
Jerry Goldsmith said that the soundtrack album for "The Russia House" was "too f***ing long" I tended to agree. Although Quartet's expansion added some different music that mixed up the experience so it didn't drag so much.
Loved Bring on the Night, Michael Apted directed it so well. I really liked getting to know Branford there and Russia House came out after that and I bought that soundtrack just for Branford's work.
In the time of the missile crisis the world was actually two people away from war, because Mao would have fired too. Khrushchev didn't want to escalate further than he thought was necessary, so he never gave them the means to fully build their own arsenals. But about music, I confess I was thinking Tupac on the hip-hop segment. About how to communicate ideas to composers, I usually to tell people to go look for references and, when showing it to the composer, say "This is the sentiment. Now make this work in your own style." (and to never show temp music to the actual composer).
Ellis Marsalis - father of Wynton, Branford, and Delfeayo - was a brilliant and well-respected jazz pianist and teacher. He made several excellent 'standards' recordings with Wynton and others including all three brothers. He died in April of last year due to complications of Covid. :-(
Just finished listening the new episode of Play, Watch, Listen and now I'm here for You Gotta Hear This! :D Austin, I don't know if you played Ghost of Tshushima (I just started last weekend, a year late, yep) and I absolutely LOVE the soundtrack. Have you talked about it on PWL? (I agree about listening Dark Side of the Moon in the dark, best album ever made. I always listen to it with no distractions, never as "background noise").
I didn't finish the game but I loved what I played and the score is very, very well done. If you look elsewhere here on my channel in the "Podcast" playlist you'll see a long chat I had with Elan Eshkeri about it :)
I was quite taken with the Ghost of Tsushima score as well. The work done by both Eshkeri and Umebayashi melds together quite nicely in-game and it flows well on the official soundtrack album as a solo listen too. Great stuff. It's not up to the level of recent open world experiences like The Pathless or Sekiro in terms of compositional creativity and putting a unique stamp on the specific game's worldbuilding (not attempting to brown nose in the case of the former, truthfully), but for an open-world action-adventure score that could have turned out to be very paint-by-numbers, the craftsmanship each composer showed is exemplary. Assuming there will be a sequel, I truly hope they both choose to return for it.
Do we know if Jerry got the Duduk idea from Peter Gabriel's 1988 score to the Last Temptation of Christ? That's the score I always think of when I hear duduk.
I actually suspect he got it from the film itself ... something I forgot to mention in the show was that there is a duduk player ON-SCREEN in a restaurant scene in the film. Could be the director discovered it and turned Jerry onto it
The Manning Family is a bullseye of a comparison. Wynton and Brandon's dad is Ellis Marsalis who, like Archie Manning is definitely a New Orleans legend.
The story Troy told about sitting his friend down like "LISTEN. TO. THIS", that's how I feel about this series; the world stops when this show is on! P.S. Any chance Daniel Pemberton will appear? I consider him one of the most unique composers of our day. Especially "The Man From U.N.C.L.E." Very underappreciated film too! Stay metal \m/
FYI there's a short clip of The Russia House recording session with Brandon Marsalis performing at the session: ua-cam.com/video/prTr1hz37ds/v-deo.html
Hello Austin, technical question: What do you use to share the music live with Troy? I would love to know to do a little music quiz with friends online :)
another great example of early duduk in filmmusic is THE CROW by Graeme Revell where it also has fuck-all to do with the subject matter of the movie. Revell jus tused it because it sounded cool but god damn it does. ANd that movie actually was a big hit and cultural milestone (obviously not to the degree of GLADIATOR, but still), yet the score is overshadowed by the needle drops and don't get me wrong, the songs from that film are awesome, one of the best song-soundtracks in film history, but it's sad that it had to happen at the expense of the score because Revell#s score is severely underrated and the duduk int he opening alone adds so much to the famous mood and atmosphere
And before all those, I believe the earliest mainstream big film was Peter Gabriel's work on THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST. Goldsmith's stands out for me because of his unique blend w/ the slinky jazz .But yah, Revell is under-appreciated, especially for those 90s scores
I actually love it, I"m just not an expert (and in that moment had a total brain freeze). From a production standpoint, it's a massively progressive and experimental music playground. Very exciting stuff
I love this series. I’ve learned a lot and I can’t get enough. I go back and relisten sometimes when I get the itch.
The musician who played duduk in Gladiator, Djivan Gasparyan, died a couple of weeks ago.
Part 2 of 57. I'm ready.
Austin is the friend I never had growing up. Man I wish I had a fellow soundtrack lover in my life that I could geek out with. These podcasts are the closest I may ever get. Thanks for putting them together, I just love them. Goldsmith is my all time fave, so these are just wonderful.
The "temporary fix" to the video dropping was a nice touch by the editor, great stuff! 😂
😁
i have a feeling austin is a bit of a fan of this jerry goldsmith fella
Where can I hear Austin talk about Mass Effect. I know he is dying to talk for weeks about it. Give us the content!
Two of my favourite people in one place, this is what happiness looks like 😊
Could we please have one more Goldsmith episode where you delve into Troy's statement of "monetizing your passion" explored via the experience of the orchestra/choir performing Ave Satani from The Omen? I can't imagine that content wasn't a stretch for some of the performers and yet... what a performance! I get the sense Troy may not have heard / seen The Omen - he doesn't react when it's been mentioned. The tensions of belief vs job would be interesting to explore.
they call it parasocial relationship, i call it friendship by proxy. these are the conversations i want to have more. thanks to you i never feel like my theoretical insertions remain unheard or unanswered. especially in tmes of covid, when the possibility of having real life discussions like that are severly limited, i am so thankful for the existence of all of this.
LOVE this. Keep it up! Many themes of his are still so fresh in my mind YEARS later from being played on repeat. Work like his was so wholesome, there's still much to breakdown & take from it even now. Personally I feel the whole approach to "No Time To Die" could be argued as an attempt for that Goldsmith memorability, sure on the other side of the coin it's "another Bond theme" -- listen to how it's mastered. That's Eilish singing too BTW! Put on Chinatown's theme -- whether intentional or not his influence is still very much present & ty for taking the time to highlight that!
YES when Ep 5 ended I was like, "bro there gotta be a part 2".
This and PWL early? Hero
"We're not snobs, we're purists."
Need that on a shirt ASAP
Whenever Goldsmith is the topic, my heart warms up :-).
That documentary where the contractor mentions the casual request of the Duduk is so damn good. Its from "The River Wild" dvd i think! I have it on a hard drive for use as a pick-me-up between scores. Countless tasty nuggets.
Is like therapy listen to you guys talking about music and life
man... Katya was giving me so many chills, ty Austin for putting these together
I've been binging these straight through, and every episode, I think, "It's the TANGENT SHOW," and start to want to scream "JUST PLAY THE TRACK," but then I love the tangents because you guys have such great stories that I forget there was a track to listen to, and now I totally see how there will be an Ep. 5, Part 35.
You Gotta Hear This : Episode 5 - Part 2 - Reference List :
* Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon - 1973
* Jeffrey Scott Buckley - Singer - Songwriter - Guitarist
* Forest Gump - Film - 1994 - Dir Robert Zemeckis - Music Composer Alan Silvestri
* The Russian House - Film - 1990 - Dir Fred Schepisi - Music Composer Jerry Goldsmith
* Michael Kamen - Music Composer
* David Sandborn - Saxophonist
* Branford Marsalis - Saxophonist - Jazz Composer
* Wynton Marsalis - Trumpeter - Composer
* Sting - Musician
* The Police - Rock Band
* Bring on the Night - 1985 - - Music Documentary - Dir Michael Apted
* Miles Copeland - Manager - Producer
* Kenneth David Kirkland - Pianist - Keyboardist
* Live from Abbey Road - Performance Documentary Series
* The Fog of War - 2003 - Documentary - Dir Errol Morris
* Seven Days in May - 1964 - Film - Dir John Frankenheimer - Music Composer Jerry Goldsmith
* Michael Lang - Pianist
* Duduk - Armenian Instrument
* Gladiator - Film - 2000 - Dir Ridley Scott - Musical Composer Hans Zimmer
* Film Music Master : Jerry Goldsmith - 1995 - Documentary
* Armen Vaghinaki Grigoryan - Duduk Player ??? No too sure about that one sorry
* N.W.H - ( Niggaz With Hats) - Fictional Band from the Film - Fear of a Black Hat - 1993
* N.W.A - ( Niggaz Wit Attitudes ) - Hip Hop Band
* P.I.D - ( Preachers in Disguise ) - Christian Hip Hop
* The Shawshank Redemption - Film - 1994 - Dir Frank Darabont - Music Composer Thomas Newman
* American Beauty - Film - 1999 - Dir Sam Mendes - Music Composer Thomas Newman
* Alien Nation - Film - 1988 - Dir Graham Baker - Music Composer Jerry Goldsmith
Thanks Austin & Troy for this great Episode ! Take care
Wow!
I'm sure the rest of this will be amazing but that animated dramatization of 22 seconds of conversation just made my day
Jerry Goldsmith earlier on in his career wasn't as confortable with Jazz as say John Williams, Dave Grusin or Quincy Jones. But I think he really did a great job here later in his career with Branford Marsalis improvising bits of the score. It sounds very similar to something that John Barry would write, which fits in a funny way, since it's a spy thriller/lovestory with Sean Connery, also I think I read somewhere that John Barry was one of Jerry Goldsmith's favourite composers.
Really glad to hear you discuss Russia House. I recall so well waiting on line outside the theater to go in for the movie. The previous screening was still playing when they opened the doors and that glorious end title cue spilled out into the street. I was entranced even before going into the auditorium. Ever since it's been one of my favorite Goldsmith scores.
With the Candyman sequel/reboot coming out soon and hopefully reviving interest in the original, would love to have you spotlight Philip Glass, and also another Minimalist scorer and my personal favorite, Michael Nyman.
Yay! Part 2 of Jerry Goldsmith!
Looking forward to part 3!
Nice drawings, Austin!
It’s so cool that you have this deep admiration for Jerry Goldsmith! I’m very much the same way when it comes to James Horner! To add about using untraditional instruments, James Horner used an Irish pan flute ensemble for Field of Dreams and of course he loved to use the Shakuhachi even before Zorro! You can hear it in Willow and Honey, I Shrunk the Kids!
Could it be that people credit Hans Zimmer because he made the Duduk and other ethnic instruments the foreground? Whereas Goldsmith and Horner used them as colors? So to the average film goer or listener Gladiator’s score just stands out…snd then *bam* massive hit also?
Can't get enough of that temporary fix!
😅😅😅
I gotta hear more!
Always one of the highlights of the week for me. Austin, know that you guys are making a lot of music nerds happy with these fantastic vids. Keep it up!
Love how that musical instrument from Gladiator became the "this is how ancient Rome sounds like now" and no longer the victorian trumpets all around.
emigrated from PWL, so happy to be here!
Very glad this has grown to be a 2 parter!
17:30 I think Troy's referring to "Seven Days in May" which incidentally was also scored by Jerry Goldsmith!
The Russia House was in 1990. The same year as Arnie's Total Recall and the sequel Gremlins 2: The New Batch. Talk about range!
Can’t believe I am so late to this that episode 3 is out already ;)
So good! Austin you're going to make a brilliant wise old man one day
Lovin the passion as always Austin! The score you unpacked in this one was particularly sexy!
The animation part was so good
I love ‘The Russia House’. Pfeiffer was amazing but the entire cast is great. (I was never afraid in the 80s)
Wooohooooo let's goooo!!
Enjoying these so much :)
My Spotify expands each episode
Would love to see you break down Zimmer and his works. It blew my mind when I was watching the Wesley Snipes film Drop Zone and I was like 'IS THAT THE PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN THEME KICKING IN?!'. And ofcourse you can hear variations throughout his works (Hammerhead, Broken Arrow and of course in Gladiator to name but just a couple).
I know precisely the lineage of that motif you're describing and have long thought it would be fun to trace it through the years
Oh my god somebody else knows about Broken Arrow, that wasn’t a fever dream.
Michael Kamen / David Samborn - sure that combo was on one or all of the Lethal Weapon scores
Here's a weird question: Are there Film Composer equivalents of "One Hit Wonders"?
I'd be curious to know if there are composers out there that become known for one piece of score that they're not able to seperate themselves from (which may also serve as a typecasting, of sorts). If I had to guess, I could see this being the case for many old TV composers.
Absolutely yes. Interesting idea for a future episode ...
@@awintory Haha I'd love to hear your take on the subject.
Thank you for replying, and for continuing this awesome series! :)
Barry Gray , not known for one thing specifically, but tell me anything you know of his that isn’t a Gerry Anderson production, I even have the no strings attached record which is a really strange sized Lp
Lalo Schifrin for Mission Impossible, Morton Stevens Hawaii Five O and a few others.
Ira Newborn - theme from the Naked Gun
I wanted to ask you Austin if you have seen the Spitfire Audio competitions? A year or two ago they did one with a Westworld clip and right now they are doing one for Stargirl on the CW. I thought it would be interesting to hear your thoughts on the variety of submissions from different levels of amateur to semi-professional composers. You should check out the finalists for the Westworld competition and if you chose to share your thoughts I would love to hear it. I am submitting one for the Stargirl competition because it is a lot of fun for a hobbyist composer like myself. Love this series btw, I love doing this with my friends as I am the resident film score nerd in my circle. Have a great weekend!
Jerry Goldsmith said that the soundtrack album for "The Russia House" was "too f***ing long" I tended to agree. Although Quartet's expansion added some different music that mixed up the experience so it didn't drag so much.
Loved Bring on the Night, Michael Apted directed it so well. I really liked getting to know Branford there and Russia House came out after that and I bought that soundtrack just for Branford's work.
In the time of the missile crisis the world was actually two people away from war, because Mao would have fired too. Khrushchev didn't want to escalate further than he thought was necessary, so he never gave them the means to fully build their own arsenals.
But about music, I confess I was thinking Tupac on the hip-hop segment. About how to communicate ideas to composers, I usually to tell people to go look for references and, when showing it to the composer, say "This is the sentiment. Now make this work in your own style." (and to never show temp music to the actual composer).
Ellis Marsalis - father of Wynton, Branford, and Delfeayo - was a brilliant and well-respected jazz pianist and teacher. He made several excellent 'standards' recordings with Wynton and others including all three brothers. He died in April of last year due to complications of Covid. :-(
Just finished listening the new episode of Play, Watch, Listen and now I'm here for You Gotta Hear This! :D
Austin, I don't know if you played Ghost of Tshushima (I just started last weekend, a year late, yep) and I absolutely LOVE the soundtrack. Have you talked about it on PWL?
(I agree about listening Dark Side of the Moon in the dark, best album ever made. I always listen to it with no distractions, never as "background noise").
I didn't finish the game but I loved what I played and the score is very, very well done. If you look elsewhere here on my channel in the "Podcast" playlist you'll see a long chat I had with Elan Eshkeri about it :)
I was quite taken with the Ghost of Tsushima score as well. The work done by both Eshkeri and Umebayashi melds together quite nicely in-game and it flows well on the official soundtrack album as a solo listen too. Great stuff. It's not up to the level of recent open world experiences like The Pathless or Sekiro in terms of compositional creativity and putting a unique stamp on the specific game's worldbuilding (not attempting to brown nose in the case of the former, truthfully), but for an open-world action-adventure score that could have turned out to be very paint-by-numbers, the craftsmanship each composer showed is exemplary. Assuming there will be a sequel, I truly hope they both choose to return for it.
Do we know if Jerry got the Duduk idea from Peter Gabriel's 1988 score to the Last Temptation of Christ? That's the score I always think of when I hear duduk.
I actually suspect he got it from the film itself ... something I forgot to mention in the show was that there is a duduk player ON-SCREEN in a restaurant scene in the film. Could be the director discovered it and turned Jerry onto it
The Manning Family is a bullseye of a comparison. Wynton and Brandon's dad is Ellis Marsalis who, like Archie Manning is definitely a New Orleans legend.
44:30 There is a famous, older game I don't remember with a similar melody... x)
It's interesting...and I kid you not. Every radio station I have ever visited has a copy of Russia House in their CD library.
ehhh friday good listens! Lets do this
The story Troy told about sitting his friend down like "LISTEN. TO. THIS", that's how I feel about this series; the world stops when this show is on!
P.S. Any chance Daniel Pemberton will appear? I consider him one of the most unique composers of our day. Especially "The Man From U.N.C.L.E." Very underappreciated film too!
Stay metal \m/
Love Pemberton and totally agree re: UNCLE. A *superb* score
@@awintory Thank you for responding, oh Lord of Tangents! :)
plz make A list of those albums that are "must listen to" !!!!!!!
"Alien Nation" was a MUCH better TV show than movie.
Well said alien Nation may have been one of the best Shows ever.
FYI there's a short clip of The Russia House recording session with Brandon Marsalis performing at the session: ua-cam.com/video/prTr1hz37ds/v-deo.html
Hello Austin, technical question: What do you use to share the music live with Troy?
I would love to know to do a little music quiz with friends online :)
I host the tracks in Digital Performer with hte Audiomovers plugin loaded and broadcasting to him in a separate browser window. Super easy!
@@awintory Digital Performer is a bit pricey, but thanks for the quick answer! :D
Any DAW will do. DP, Logic, ProTools, Cubase ...
another great example of early duduk in filmmusic is THE CROW by Graeme Revell where it also has fuck-all to do with the subject matter of the movie. Revell jus tused it because it sounded cool but god damn it does. ANd that movie actually was a big hit and cultural milestone (obviously not to the degree of GLADIATOR, but still), yet the score is overshadowed by the needle drops and don't get me wrong, the songs from that film are awesome, one of the best song-soundtracks in film history, but it's sad that it had to happen at the expense of the score because Revell#s score is severely underrated and the duduk int he opening alone adds so much to the famous mood and atmosphere
And before all those, I believe the earliest mainstream big film was Peter Gabriel's work on THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST. Goldsmith's stands out for me because of his unique blend w/ the slinky jazz .But yah, Revell is under-appreciated, especially for those 90s scores
34:01 SCREAMING 🙀
As painful to watch as it was to experience
Don't worry guys, this black guy has never really been into rap.
I actually love it, I"m just not an expert (and in that moment had a total brain freeze). From a production standpoint, it's a massively progressive and experimental music playground. Very exciting stuff