Alkan - 12 Etudes in all Major keys, Op. 35 (Viner)

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  • @SeigneurReefShark
    @SeigneurReefShark  2 роки тому +38

    I. Etude No. 1 in A Major - 00:00:00
    II. Etude No. 2 in D Major - 00:02:26
    III. Etude No. 3 in G Major - 00:05:03
    IV. Etude No. 4 in C Major - 00:11:45
    V. Etude No. 5 in F Major. Allegro barbaro - 00:16:31
    VI. Etude No. 6 in B-Flat Major - 00:19:16
    VII. Etude No. 7 in E-Flat Major. L'incendie au village voisin - 00:21:16
    VIII. Etude No. 8 in A-Flat Major - 00:31:59
    IX. Etude No. 9 in C-Sharp Major. Contrapunctus - 00:37:19
    X. Etude No. 10 in G-Flat Major. Chant d'amour - Chant de mort - 00:43:17
    XI. Etude No. 11 in B Major - 00:54:04
    XII. Etude No. 12 in E Major - 01:02:51

  • @GUILLOM
    @GUILLOM 2 роки тому +132

    FINALLY SOMEONE DID IT

    • @SeigneurReefShark
      @SeigneurReefShark  2 роки тому +31

      All Alkan etudes in one video are coming in some days :)

    • @GUILLOM
      @GUILLOM 2 роки тому

      @@SeigneurReefShark o

    • @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
      @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 2 роки тому

      They did :D

    • @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
      @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 2 роки тому +1

      @@SeigneurReefShark you mean just Op.35 or Op.39 or the ones out of these two sets as well (i.e. Le Chemin de Fer, Le Preux, Trois Grandes Etudes, etc.)?

    • @SeigneurReefShark
      @SeigneurReefShark  2 роки тому +9

      @@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji all of them !

  • @OrangeSodaKing
    @OrangeSodaKing 2 роки тому +44

    I listened to the albums of Stephanie McCallum and Bernard Ringeissen playing these etudes countless times since my high school years. I absolutely adore Mark Viner’s recording of these etudes, as well!

    • @SimonPiano42
      @SimonPiano42 2 роки тому +1

      Same for Ringeissen, that has been the only recording I've known to exist for the longest time, and it's fantastic for being the first recording of the whole set, to my knowledge. I actually didn't know McCallum recorded the whole set (only knew her Chants).
      But yes, Viner brings whole new colors to the etudes, it might be the best set recording now.

  • @teodorb.p.composer
    @teodorb.p.composer Рік тому +20

    Alkan was qenious! This is absolutelly beautifull, every etude in this is so original, stunning, pleasant and spirited. I love Alkan's wotk with harmonies, rhytmes and voicing.

  • @cuball2459
    @cuball2459 4 місяці тому +1

    No. 1 and 6 are beautiful, taken at nice tempos and No. 2 is a captivating journey through surprising textures, harmony and rhythms.

  • @sage4nowty129
    @sage4nowty129 Рік тому +6

    Extraordinary etude writing!! Charles-Valentin Alkan was a great composer, highly underrated!! A great performance!! Bravissimo!!

  • @benjaminravail5028
    @benjaminravail5028 Рік тому +7

    Allan is such most underrated composer while he remains a genius

    • @sage4nowty129
      @sage4nowty129 Рік тому +2

      In one biography of Debussy, Alkan in mentioned disparagingly by Debussy. Maybe it was jealousy? But, I agree, Alkan is a highly underrated composer!!

    • @teodorb.p.composer
      @teodorb.p.composer 11 місяців тому +2

      @@sage4nowty129 Actually Debussy was very inspired by Alkan's preludes and esquisses.

    • @AlkanLove
      @AlkanLove 19 днів тому

      ラヴェルもアルカンに影響を受けています

    • @AlkanLove
      @AlkanLove 19 днів тому

      ラヴェルのピアノ技法自体はリストの影響が大きいですがアルカンの書法や左手の為の作品に役立ちました

  • @domila5316
    @domila5316 2 роки тому +3

    Una bella sorpresa questi studi, che non conoscevo. Grazie

  • @totoro3007
    @totoro3007 2 роки тому +7

    I think I'll print out the first one to play. Sounds nice and makes me feel like I'm gardening with my grandma.

  • @ciararespect4296
    @ciararespect4296 Рік тому +3

    I printed them all out after listening to them . Now I'm. Playing them all 🙏

  • @sebastian-benedictflore
    @sebastian-benedictflore 2 роки тому +5

    I'm buying these soon. I already have Op.39 but Op.27 and 35 should be on their way soon. So exciting, can't believe this was only uploaded 3 weeks ago

  • @MegaCirse
    @MegaCirse Рік тому +1

    Charles-Valentin Morhange est le brillant reflet d'une époque, comme un astéroïde qui revient jeter son dévolu sur l'art sonore. Une onde prodigieuse chargée de paradoxes d'où s'échappent l'obscurantisme la féérie et l'irrationnel, facteurs hypnotiques défiant les âmes vulnérables en quête d'absolu. Son architecture musicale est un court tunnel qui mène à la lumière

  • @김진우-i2e
    @김진우-i2e 2 роки тому +2

    No.9 is simply amazing

  • @4ywac
    @4ywac 2 роки тому +8

    Why is he so underrated?!

    • @Dylonely42
      @Dylonely42 2 роки тому +5

      Because his works are so hard that only a few people can play it. Besides he wasn't as famous as Liszt at this time and his works are nearly never played.

    • @morbiusfan3176
      @morbiusfan3176 Рік тому +2

      He is wayyyy too hard so nobody plays him, hence there are no recordings of him so people dont hear of him. He is an astonishing composer but the sheer difficulty of his pieces is enough to take that away

    • @fjdyyh2542
      @fjdyyh2542 Рік тому +1

      Most of his works are quite boring

    • @southfloridaarcheryguy114
      @southfloridaarcheryguy114 8 місяців тому +1

      Underrated by whom..??

  • @steveegallo3384
    @steveegallo3384 Рік тому +1

    Sensational in every way......BRAVO from Acapulco!

  • @PianoHsiang
    @PianoHsiang 2 роки тому +8

    1:01:15
    Perfect

  • @Sujkhgfrwqqnvf
    @Sujkhgfrwqqnvf 2 роки тому +6

    19:42 the inspiration for Bartok etude op 18 n. 1

  • @BrianBeker
    @BrianBeker 2 роки тому +2

    WOW. Amazing! Brilliant!

  • @kamint2258
    @kamint2258 Рік тому +3

    アレグロ・バルバロはバルトークの同名異曲を何十年も前に先取りした傑作!!

    • @MegaCirse
      @MegaCirse Рік тому +1

      完全に間違っているわけではない

  • @pjimenez08
    @pjimenez08 2 роки тому +13

    I'm starting to like this set as much as Op. 39.

    • @joshuaslater7858
      @joshuaslater7858 2 роки тому +1

      rachmaninoff?

    • @pjimenez08
      @pjimenez08 2 роки тому +6

      @@joshuaslater7858 Alkan's Op 39, etudes in all minor keys

    • @SimonPiano42
      @SimonPiano42 2 роки тому +3

      Me too! While listening to this I was just starting to think "this is actually great, maybe I should place this along the minor etudes Op. 39". Some fantastic pieces that can be considered for performance or showing others who aren't Alkan aficionados yet.
      Of course Op. 39 has the symphony and concerto for solo piano which are hard to top in terms of depth, but some of these Op. 35 pieces are just as refined and grandiose.
      I mean, I always thought No. 7 ("Fire in the neighboring village") was a masterpiece (as did Sorabji).
      And Allegro Barbaro, while indeed barbaric, is the only interesting (or any) piece I know that's only on the white keys.
      (funny that it's the piece standing in for F major in these etudes in all major keys, but even though its written key signature seems to be F major, every single B flat is cancelled to B natural, and effectively it's F lydian)
      This also renewed my appreciation for 1, 2 and 4. And I always loved 9, Contrapunctus.
      Chant d'amour - chant de mort has a gorgeous first part, it just ends anticlimactically. I guess that's intended ;)

  • @jonaskatona7136
    @jonaskatona7136 2 роки тому +15

    Nos. 10 and 11 are especially beautiful. They make me realize how much those who stick their noses up at Alkan and say that his music is unmusical, all technique, and unworthy of praise are all blinded by their ignorance and blind adherence to the same group of composers.

    • @jonaskatona7136
      @jonaskatona7136 2 роки тому +1

      @@tr7938 You must be talking about yourself, because I'm a very open-minded person.

    • @markvinerpiano
      @markvinerpiano 2 роки тому +4

      Hear hear!

    • @zswu31416
      @zswu31416 9 місяців тому

      @@jonaskatona7136 he's obviously talking about the people you're talking about

  • @maultooga
    @maultooga 2 роки тому +4

    So much of Alkan sounds like classic gameboy music or nintendo. I love it.

    • @steverd
      @steverd Рік тому +1

      lol you’re right on the money with that with his etude sans opus

    • @epichdsheep
      @epichdsheep Рік тому

      Lol that is so weirdly specific and accurate

  • @tomowenpianochannel
    @tomowenpianochannel 9 місяців тому +2

    Had not heard Mark Viner before his Alkan recordings. They are superb. In many places, they rival Marc-Andre Hamelin, which is the competition supreme. These are also recorded in better sound in some cases than Hyperion. Seriously impressive, although Hamelin will always be there, not to say Alkan's writing which is beyond Liszt, Chopin, Prokofiev, and modern composers in many areas.

  • @LkFia_
    @LkFia_ 2 роки тому +2

    The first one's melody reminds me of feux follets

  • @sheep6562
    @sheep6562 2 роки тому +10

    1:00:51

    • @SimonPiano42
      @SimonPiano42 2 роки тому +6

      Yes, this part also jumped out at me again. This is one of the most grandiose moments in these, and it starts so subtly. very well played by Viner.
      You're a bit sad when it turns to tragedy again, but oh well, no grandiose moment can go on forever.

  • @JouniSomeroMusic
    @JouniSomeroMusic 2 роки тому +1

    BRAVO!

  • @duqueadriano0081
    @duqueadriano0081 2 роки тому +1

    the fugue is amazing

  • @Xyriak
    @Xyriak 2 роки тому +1

    love the first one

  • @philipstevenson5166
    @philipstevenson5166 4 місяці тому

    this is why someone invented the player piano

  • @PieInTheSky9
    @PieInTheSky9 2 роки тому +11

    25:43 love this part!

    • @hleung2947
      @hleung2947 2 роки тому +2

      This like Chopin' ed.. No. 1

  • @QuoPacto
    @QuoPacto Рік тому +2

    You can exchange "mostly on white keys" to "only on white keys" ;)

  • @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
    @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji Місяць тому +1

    26:30 oddly Schumann-esque passage.

  • @throxing8865
    @throxing8865 2 роки тому +1

    thanks for making this

  • @alcyonecrucis
    @alcyonecrucis 2 роки тому +7

    Love it. I want to compose a set of etude a some day soon

  • @blablabla4667
    @blablabla4667 2 роки тому +4

    01:02:51 chopin butterfly etude??

  • @tymenryk
    @tymenryk 8 місяців тому

    Description says “Allegro Barbara is mostly white notes” …it is very specifically ONLY white notes…more interestingly - it is actually the Etude in F-maj and every single Bb is made natural!

  • @jericolozares8446
    @jericolozares8446 2 роки тому

    THATS SO PRETTY

  • @cuball2459
    @cuball2459 4 місяці тому

    27:53 - Wow!

  • @blacksky492
    @blacksky492 2 роки тому +3

    Major set of etudes

  • @contraitaly7800
    @contraitaly7800 10 місяців тому

    The Allegro Barbaro is a hardcore metal piece one and a half century before heavy metal/hardcore came to fruition.

  • @evansercombe
    @evansercombe 2 роки тому +7

    Etude no. 10 almost sounds like Mozart (but more interesting). Very, very beautiful.

    • @valarking
      @valarking Рік тому

      If you think that's more interesting than Mozart than wait until you find out how fun jingling car keys is

  • @paeffill9428
    @paeffill9428 2 роки тому

    Great!

  • @martinsloshelin8007
    @martinsloshelin8007 2 роки тому

    Very nice stuff

  • @JohannesBruhms
    @JohannesBruhms 2 роки тому +6

    No.7 deserves equal treatment with Op.39

  • @AlkanLove
    @AlkanLove 2 роки тому +2

    はぁ...アルカンLove❤

  • @음악사랑-q9h
    @음악사랑-q9h Рік тому +2

    C# 장조에다가 각종 임시표가 떡칠이라니..... 와 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 초견 엄청 어려운 악보네요

  • @pianissimo_yt
    @pianissimo_yt 2 роки тому +6

    anybody know why the sharps are positioned like they are?

    • @anthonyflanders1347
      @anthonyflanders1347 2 роки тому +3

      Interesting I didn’t even notice at first but I would guess it’s just some old fashioned notation that died out

    • @sebastian-benedictflore
      @sebastian-benedictflore 2 роки тому +4

      It actually makes more sense, when you think about it. It's more consistent, this way. Up a fifth, down a fourth and so on.

    • @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
      @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 2 роки тому +6

      It is the French way of representing keys in a score.

  • @Matthew-nv2wy
    @Matthew-nv2wy 2 роки тому +8

    I already get goosebumps after listening to the first one. Lovely!

  • @benharmonics
    @benharmonics Рік тому

    16:32-18:22
    1:02:52-1:04:53
    1:06:41

  • @zdouza734
    @zdouza734 Рік тому

    9:30 sempre ff 13:36 ff 17:32 sostenu. 25:09 ff 25:43 L'istesso tempo 27:04 ff con furia 27:55 pedal 54:13 m.4 E 59:13 tres sostenu.

  • @Jessica-si5wo
    @Jessica-si5wo Рік тому +1

    Beautifull played just wow🤗 btw Alkan is the only composer that impressed Ferenc Listzt himself, when Liszt sees his music for the first time he said he never had seen such complex technic. ( sorry for my bad english)

    • @ldgaming4213
      @ldgaming4213 8 місяців тому

      Ferenc Listzt, that's one way of spelling it 😂 It's Franz Liszt silly

    • @Jessica-si5wo
      @Jessica-si5wo 7 місяців тому

      @@ldgaming4213 are you sure? 🤣 in Hungary they say Ferenc Liszt and not Franz, i play the piano and Liszt his music since i was 8 yo......who is silly now haha ( no offend btw 🤗 )

    • @ldgaming4213
      @ldgaming4213 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Jessica-si5wo wow, my bad, as you are Hungarian and so was Lizst I take your word for it. I guess it is Ferenc Lizst :)

    • @Jessica-si5wo
      @Jessica-si5wo 7 місяців тому

      @@ldgaming4213 😘

  • @naphtanaptha
    @naphtanaptha 7 місяців тому

    number 8 and especially 34:43 haunt me in my nightmares

  • @むむ-v9g
    @むむ-v9g 6 місяців тому

    00:02:26

  • @김진우-i2e
    @김진우-i2e 22 дні тому

    which one is your favorite?
    mine is no.9

  • @nickdryad
    @nickdryad 2 роки тому +2

    Why are the key signatures written like that?

  • @ezandman6804
    @ezandman6804 2 місяці тому

    17:32

  • @amj.composer
    @amj.composer Рік тому +1

    16:31 okay this piece has 1 flat in the key signature but literally EVERY B-flat is cancelled by the natural sign. What's the point? I understand it's to denote in F major and he wanted to write in Lydian, but it's still kinda funny

  • @안효제-r8w
    @안효제-r8w 11 місяців тому

    1:08:22

  • @mcig98
    @mcig98 2 роки тому +2

    yey

  • @syroyid
    @syroyid 2 роки тому

    Which one is your favorite?

  • @myless789
    @myless789 8 місяців тому +1

    No. 9 sounds like the intro so a crazy fugue

  • @jcl9792
    @jcl9792 2 роки тому +2

    24:30

  • @techinoneminute
    @techinoneminute 3 місяці тому

    3:34 sf sf sf sf sf sf sf

  • @parcivalg.5659
    @parcivalg.5659 2 роки тому +1

    Simpatici esercizi; nulla di più.

    • @ariswoh7617
      @ariswoh7617 2 роки тому

      ?

    • @parcivalg.5659
      @parcivalg.5659 2 роки тому +1

      @@ariswoh7617 non vi sono frasi degne di nota, una composizione necessita di idee, più o meno semplici, più o meno complesse, frasi melodiche, incipit, questo anche quando si tratta di uno studio per pianoforte. Per questa ragione le mie corde non vibrano e considero questi brani esercizi armonicamente ben costruiti. Nulla di più.

  • @Sujkhgfrwqqnvf
    @Sujkhgfrwqqnvf 2 роки тому +1

    24:30 Liszt Orage plagiarism.

    • @PieInTheSky9
      @PieInTheSky9 2 роки тому +26

      Alkan wrote this before liszt. This was published in 1847, Liszt premiere annee was written between 1848 and 1854, so if anything Liszt was inspired by Alkan (Liszt spoke highly of Alkans piano playing) .

    • @Roescoe
      @Roescoe 2 роки тому +20

      @@PieInTheSky9 It's always funny when people jump to plagiarism without even checking the dates or any other possibilities. It happens with jokes a lot where the actual plagiarist is called the original writer.

    • @Asymmetrization
      @Asymmetrization 2 роки тому +5

      @@Roescoe iirc the comedy scene had a massive problem with plagarism and being unable to find the original author because of how many plagarists there were, at least a few dozen years ago.

    • @Roescoe
      @Roescoe 2 роки тому +2

      @@Asymmetrization For sure. Yeah once more of it got videoed it became much harder to dispute who came up with it first.

    • @herobrine1847
      @herobrine1847 2 роки тому +2

      Orange

  • @ceinwenbran
    @ceinwenbran 2 роки тому +1

    adverts between etudes? 🥲 ruined it

    • @GUILLOM
      @GUILLOM Рік тому +1

      Cry about it

  • @dwacheopus
    @dwacheopus 7 місяців тому

    God i love no. 10 so much. It's just so heart warming (consider the beautiful parts)