Only the Bible Can Explain the Ice Age
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- We are told that there have been multiple ice ages in Earth’s history. What does that even mean? What is an ice age? What physical evidence would one leave? And most importantly of all, how does an ice age start (and later, stop)?
Secular scientists have major trouble modelling how even one ice age could start in the real world-never mind multiple ice ages! And they have many associated ice age mysteries to explain-such as the post-ice age extinction event.
The biblical post-Flood Ice Age model, on the other hand, does a good job of explaining the observed evidence! After all, if the Bible is a true record of history, it makes sense that it would have strong explanatory power when trying to make sense of the past!
Join geologist, Dr Tas Walker, for a fascinating exploration of the mysteries of the Ice Age.
⏳ TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Teaser
00:35 Introduction: What is the mystery of the Ice Age?
01:36 Physical evidence of a past Ice Age
03:29 → Scientist originally wouldn’t believe the evidence!
04:31 What was the extent of the ice in the Ice Age?
05:39 The mystery: What caused the Ice Age?
06:29 What solutions have been put forward?
08:02 The Secular Ice Age Model: Milankovitch cycles
10:46 → Problem: Milankovitch cycles don’t produce enough cooling!
11:21 → The secondary hypothesis: Positive feedback from CO2
12:21 → Secular scientists have concluded Earth’s climate is an unstable system
12:59 → Climate alarmism is a by-product of an unbiblical Ice Age model
14:20 → Problem: Positive feedback (producing cooling) isn’t enough; much more precipitation is needed!
15:51 → Problem: The geologic record doesn’t match expectations about past ice ages
21:07 → Mysteries within mysteries for the secular theory
23:03 The Biblical Ice Age Model: The aftermath of the Flood-which was a catastrophic, global, tectonic event
24:20 → Global volcanic activity blocked sunlight
26:28 → Global tectonic activity warmed the oceans
27:20 → Solving mysteries around Ice Age animals
30:14 → Earth’s climate is stable!
34:22 → Ice Age land bridges help to explain human and animal dispersal
38:37 → Solving the mystery of the mass extinction event at the end of the Ice Age
43:34 Why secular ‘Snowball Earth’? ideas fail
45:40 → Solving the mystery of the lush, green Sahara
47:44 Conclusion: The Bible’s account of history makes sense of the world we live in!
✍️ LINKS AND SHOW NOTES
• What about ice ages? (Ch. 16 of The Creation Answers Book) - creation.com/cab-16
• The unique post-Flood Ice Age - creation.com/ice-age-model
• What caused the Ice Age? creation.com/what-caused-ice-age
• Was There An Ice Age? • Was There An Ice Age?
• Over-kill, over-chill, or over-ill? creation.com/kill-chill-ill
• Astronomical troubles for the astronomical hypothesis of ice ages - creation.com/ice-age-troubles
• Ice Age Questions and Answers - creation.com/ice-age-question...
• The Woolly Mammoth - creation.com/woolly-mammoth
• How did 90% of large Australian Ice Age animals go extinct? creation.com/australian-ice-a...
📚 HELPFUL RESOURCES
• The Great Ice Age (streaming) - creation.com/s/35-8-637
• The Ice Age-Only the Bible Can Explain It (streaming) - creation.com/s/35-8-612
• Frozen in Time (book) creation.com/s/10-2-169
• The Mammoth & the Ice Age (streaming) - creation.com/s/35-8-514
• Life in the Great Ice Age (children’s book) - creation.com/s/10-1-024
• Biblical Geology 101 (book) - creation.com/s/10-2-675
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I know it's a must watch when UA-cam is compelled to add "context" from the UN 😂
Yes, and it shows how terrified the UN is of the real truth. Cancel culture always tries to silence the truth. But the truth speaks for itself!
Right? It's like, we'll show you this content but we have to give you our take on it first. Nothing like big brother
Exactly
Crazy how the theory of uniformitarianistism has been proven wrong over and over, yet the majority denies the evidence
Yep
Man has always made it hard for us to understand what has existed.
The biblical view is much to simple for those who want to confound us with theories.
In other words - Scientific research is hard - so I will stick with: "It was God". Yep, science IS hard, some of it is very, very complicated and is constantly being tested through replication in order to reach the facts. There is nothing wrong with saying "I don't know'. That, at least is intellectually honest. No gods (of any type) are required.
Magnificent! Thank you so much for your bravery to speak up! O
It seems the oceans were shallower before the flood, then great basins opened up to take water off the land and keep the water as the mountains and land rose up. Those shallow oceans must have made for a whole different environment than we see today. We have more water in our oceans because the fountains of the deep gave up their waters, not just the 40 days of rains. That's why animals and humans were so different than today also. It was a completely different world before the flood. By the way, "Maine" says "Hello".
quite possible there were no oceans pre-flood but only lakes and rivers and seas. in Psalms it says God raised the mountains and lowered the valleys and the water ran off. Mt Everest was probably not there pre-flood.
Dr. Timothy Clarey gives a picture of the pre-flood world by sediment thickness. Lowland seas and such would have been covered first (grand Canyon area). But it is hard to say what it was like. More unspoiled for sure. Also when the plates ceased to subduct, the continents would have initially rebounded higher than they are today slowly settling to equilibrium creating submarine canyons in the runoff phase. In other words, the continents probably bobbed a bit during and after the run-off phase.
@@dougmoore4653 This also solves the "there is not enough water" objection. Because true, all water on earth could not cover everything (Mt. Everest) + "15 cubits" (Gen. 7:20). This objection assumes that the landscape was in effect the same as today.
Well done, TAS !🎉
Isn't it wonderful to see the Lord use a true Christian teacher like Tas on this issue. What a difference!
Once again, the Bible message makes real sense, wheras the bizarre propaganda of evolution just doesn't add up.
Science. When you get to put your name on "papers" you conjure papers to put your name on just so you can. Science has been wrong a lot of times, a whole lot even. Wrong things they signed off on as pure, honest facts, but were totally wrong because they were just guessing the best they could.
Yes, it is wonderful indeed. I much prefer my geological information to come from a mechanical engineer with an first class honours in Earth Science, than say someone like Dr Brent Dalrymple, whose day to day work includes the dating or rocks and minerals and working on understanding geological events and the application of radiometric dating.
Oh but what is my evidence against the wonderful Dr Walker I hear you cry?
Let's see: He misinterprets the fossil record, his theory is inconsistent with stratigraphy, his global flood model is highly unfeasable and his entire foundation is constructed through a strictly biblical lens. He disregards established geological principles and their is virutally no empirical evidence to support his assertions.
First, you attacked the messenger, rather than the message. Then, when you indicated you would give evidence, you simply engaged in elephant hurling (throwing a volley of broad claims/accusations; it's very difficult to defend against elephant hurling, because it often lacks specific claims). You didn't name a single, specific piece of evidence.
Dr Walker raises plenty of points that are well worth pondering.
@@creationministriesintl Credentials matter.
Bob comes up to me at a friend's dinner party, and informs me that tomorrow there will be a thunderstorm. "Oh, are you a meteorologist Bob?", I reply. "No, but my wife's knee always twinges in a certain way when a storm is coming,", says Bob.
Do I need to explain that the biology behind any sort of pain in the knee to object to using Bob's wife as an accurate indication of weather forecasting? No. There is a pool of sufficient evidence that I can compare Bob's wife's claim against which allows me to dismiss her prediction without having to provide an explanation. As I already commented, the Ice Age Dr Walker refers to began 2.58 million years ago, which immediately renders any attempt to explain it on the basis of a biblical narrative null and void.
I'm not attacking Dr Walker, I'm raising an objection toward the nature of his credentials. But I am happy to be more specific with the details of my objection, so I will respond as such shortly.
Also, just a reminder of point D6 in your own 'what we believe' - no interpretation of facts in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the scriptural record.
By insisting that interpretations must align with a specific scriptural record, this approach imposes an arbitrary and inherently biased constraint on scientific inquiry. Science thrives on skepticism, curiosity, and the willingness to challenge prevailing beliefs based on empirical evidence, not on adherence to preconceived notions dictated by any particular religious or ideological framework. Insisting on the primacy of a scriptural record stifles scientific progress and undermines the pursuit of knowledge based on objective observation and critical inquiry.
@@creationministriesintl Ok, so let's deal specifically with what Dr Walker claims from 23:03 to 24:20.
The evidence cited, such as volcanic activity and warmer oceans, can be explained within the context of natural geological processes and long-term climate change rather than a singular global flood event. For instance, volcanic activity and warmer ocean temperatures have occurred throughout Earth's history due to tectonic activity, volcanic eruptions, and fluctuations in atmospheric and oceanic conditions, which are well-documented and understood by geologists. Additionally, the absence of geological evidence for a global flood, such as a lack of widespread sedimentary deposits consistent with a simultaneous inundation of the entire planet, contradicts the notion of a global deluge. Instead, the geological record shows a complex layering of sediments, fossils, and rock formations that reflect gradual processes occurring over vast stretches of time, rather than a sudden, catastrophic event.
But let's get even more specific, and deal with this particular claim: ". It's recognized the change of isotope ratios, that they were warmer in the past towards the bottom of the ice cores. And so warmer oceans, that means that there's a lot more evaporation. So the evaporation produces snow and rainfall, precipitation on the continents. So that produces the water. So the snow on the continents, it builds up. And so immediately after the Flood, these conditions allowed for the snow and ice to start building up on the continents."
This interpretation does not require a global flood. Earth's climate has always been up and down, with natural factors like changes in solar radiation and atmospheric composition causing shifts in temperature over millions of years. These long-term climate trends can explain periods of warmer oceans and more snow on land without needing a one-time massive flood. Plus, geological evidence shows that floods have happened regionally over time, but not all at once across the entire planet. And when we talk about snow and ice building up on continents, that's a slow process taking thousands to millions of years, not something that happens suddenly post-flood. So, while warmer oceans can lead to more evaporation and snowfall, it's all part of Earth's natural climate story, not just a single flood event.
I don't recall Dr Walker pinning a date as to the beginning of the Quaternary Ice Age in this video, I apologise if I missed it, but I'd be interested to hear his objections on why the dating of around 2.5 million years is inaccurate. This date has been established by geologists using a variety of methods, in particular Ice Core data and Geological mapping.
Lastly, I'll touch briefly on one of the last points Dr Walker makes in terms of the 'snowball earth' theory. It's not just one event around 600 million years ago; scientists think it happened multiple times over billions of years! Also, the idea isn't that the entire planet was covered in ice all the time, but that glaciers might have reached the equator during these extreme cold snaps. And while increased reflectivity from ice could cool things down, it's not as simple as a 'positive feedback loop' - Earth's climate system is way more complex than that! Plus, suggesting evolution just stops during these events? Not quite - life finds a way, even in icy conditions!
Happy now? Or is this still 'elephant hurling'?
Ice core test , says when co 2’s were lower ice age happened . When they went up ice age ended .
Really?
Which happened first?
What caused what effect?
(Psst, it's a trick question)
@@ferengiprofiteer9145 Wheres the trick? The lower layers of low co2 ice, that's where it happened. Any more questions that can be answered easily? Or are you going with your god
@@Manualtransmissions I think I'll go with CO2 levels rising after a temperature rise as we have recorded now.
The first time I heard creationists say we have an explanation for the ice age it amazed me! Then the global flood explains it? Fascinating.
I'd like to know if The Flood caused the Ice Age or did the melting of the North American ice wall and suddenly collapsing (was a couple of miles high retaining trillions of litres of water) cause The Flood.
I suspect it's rather more complex than this
Flood caused the ice age - the water came from below and above, not from the side
@@nickbarton3191 Just as we have ground water now, they had ground waters before the flood, only lots more. The fountains of the deep gave up their ground water stores, it wasn't just 40 days of heavy rains that caused the earth to flood. Then the shallow ocean bottoms sunk, creating great chasms to hold the waters that then drained into them as the land and mountains rose up.
Last time I heard a dogmatic uniformitarianistism believer try and explain away scripture and deny the deity of Jesus.
Fascinating
No one talks about the perpetuation of force. It would make more sense that the earths axis changed. The Bible also states the foundations of the deep broke up. Erratic climate chage is simple the fallen state of creation from sin. They now say a massive ocean exists under the crust.
I am so glad I liked your video first because I like your channel. Got a bad spot for Internet and lost the connection. I was able to look at my liked videos. Went to you on the top.
You can find your videos watched under history as well
Excellent presentation.
Isaac Asimov has the best explanation for climate change. As the earth warms, more water will be evaporated until the water in the atmosphere will cool the earth and the ice caps will build up and then the cycle will start all over.
DR. TAS WALKER : Dr. Walker has been my favorite scientist and scholar for over 20 years, even more than Ken Ham. While I appreciate them all, Dr. Walker is the only one who engaged me in friendly conversation (albeit by email) and maintained contact. His Geologic Model has been especially helpful in conceptualizing the flood.
Creationism is not science.
@@taylorthetunafish5737 Atheism is not science.
@@alabamatechwriter6959 Yes. That's the only thing you're correct on.
If you are listening to him you are getting the wrong info. Try following science, (as you will if you get seriously ill.)
If you are looking to Tas Walker and Ken Ham for answers you must be incredibly gullible
The secular answers always involve 100s of thousands and millions of years, because it's hard to think of how has the earth changed so much in a few thousands.
Yes, Nick, and the reason for that is the devil wants to dismiss the sobering URGENT warning of Noah's catastrophic Flood, as it was a sobering judgement of man's sin, with the evidence of that sober judgement all around us in the fossil-bearing rocks, and less than 6,000 years ago!
It is difficult to comprehend the massive forces involved in the Great Flood. Forty days and forty nights of continuous heavy rain accross the WHOLE earth involved a LOT of water, together with the mysterious opening up of the 'fountains of the deep' mentioned in Genesis. The forces involved were just off the scale, and there has been NOTHING of this scale since. It was a one off, suddenly changing world climate and world geology. It all makes sense, whereas the lie of Evolution utterly fails to explain it!
It hasn't changed in a few thousand years. It is over 5 billion years old. Why do you persist in pushing medieval nonsense?
It's their magic wand
That's because it didn't
I love this guy! 🙏🇺🇸🙏
Thank you, Dr Tas Walker !
As usual, great content!!
Great content.
South America corroborates this idea, evidenced by tens of thousands of square miles of cold and freezing desert but minimal and receding glaciers.
Let's have a live-stream debate with those secular scientists! Nowhere to hide half-truths and misrepresentations!
Fascinating presentation!
"Evidence doesn't speak for itself. Its interpreted. "
What an awesome content!
11:20 they did the same with 'dark matter' as their model doesn't work towards the edges of the galaxy ie less gravitational force (due to less mass) should be acting on the bodies furthest away from the centre and thus should be traveling slower but they aren't 😅
Great talk about the earth’s early history!
It was mentioned that the flood was 4500 years ago. Many place the flood around 2500BC this uses the deflated numbers in the Masoretic text in Genesis 11. There is significant evidence that the Samaritan Pentatuch and the LXX texts are actually the correct numbers for this passage, this would place the flood at 3198 BC. So 5200 years ago.
Many of these discussions should start including this.
The discussion of ice age mechanisms lasted over 50 minutes as it was, without trying to explain to people a difference of 700 years in certain manuscripts. 🙂
For your interest (not planning to get into discussions of it here, on this ice age video), we have a fair amount of material on the Masoretic/LXX discussion on our site, e.g.:
→ Textual traditions and biblical chronology - dl0.creation.com/articles/p133/c13378/j29_2_99-105.pdf
→ creation.com/lxx-mt-response
→ creation.com/smith-response
I agree that the LXX preserves the original timeline. There can't be separate secular and holy timelines and the LXX lines up with the histories of Sumer, Akkad, Assyria and Egypt.
The 2400 b.c. date of the flood comes from Ussher's chronology, which has stood the test of time.
@@donkennedy9170 Stood the test of time? You mean no one has restored the Hebrew text. It's unlikely anyone ever will. Meanwhile, secular histories have confirmed the original time line preserved in the LXX and SP.
Man needs to accept that this earth life is temporary, like when you go camping, needing only the basics.
Our inheritance is not in this fallen world, but in the one prepared for us by the Great Judge - Jesus Christ our Redeemer.
The UN is man wanting to be god, the 70 nations of Babel, wanting life on their terms, denying the existence of YHWH the Creator of Heaven & Earth and deceiving as many as they can by covering up the truth.
The summit of Mt Hermon and Bethabara are classic examples.
Mt Hermon the place of the watchers coming down where Jesus declared
"I am the Messiah come and get me!" and Betharaba where John the Baptist the last Temple High Priest preserved the original Septuagint in the Dead Sea Scrolls. No wonder Jesus had such a problem with the Pharasees - they were counterfeit priests, spread their yeast. Pray for wisdom and understanding so you can spot the deceptions of this world.
This was beautiful
This is an interesting video. Regardless of what I think about the Bible, it is interesting to listen to alternative theories. We shouldn't forget though that there also were "mini ice ages", (specifically from 14th century to about mid-19th century in the North Atlantic region) when temperatures in winter dropped very law and it became bitterly cold. The explanation I was traditionally given for this phenomena is low activity of the sun combined with other global climatic patterns.
Well done.
Does the Bible speak of an "ice age" ? No, but it does present facts of how the earth was dramatically changed from a lush planet from "pole to pole", with palm trees growing even in Antarctica and a forest growing in Greenland, by the Global Deluge in 2370 B.C.E. that brought about cataclysmic alterations on the earth. So, an initial question could be, of where did all the water come from that covered the earth to some 22 feet above the tallest mountains and remains to this day as our oceans ?(Gen 7:20)
From "the heavenly ocean" (Hebrew 'eth mabbul, Gen 6:17; Ps 29:10) that was like a thermal blanket that surrounded the earth, and that is spoken of at Genesis 1:2 as the "waters" that covered the earth, but was lifted up by God to be suspended above the earth in vaporous form, to act like a warm, thick blanket on a cold night, keeping the earth at a comfortable temperature (whereby Adam and Eve were naked, and were neither cold nor hot, see Gen 2:25), even at the "poles", as Genesis 1:6-8 describes, and in which Genesis 1:6, 7 says:
"Then God said: “Let there be an expanse ("expanse", Hebrew raqia, or our atmosphere that we breathe) between the waters, and let there be a division between the waters (above) and the waters (on the earth, called Seas, Gen 1:10).” Then God went on to make the expanse and divided the waters beneath the expanse (the Seas) from the waters above the expanse ("waters above the expanse", "the heavenly ocean"). And it was so."
Fossilized pollen and spores have been recovered from seabed sediment in Antarctica that reveals that it once supported palms and near-tropical forests, showing that temperatures at the poles were not vastly different from those at the equator.
And in 2019, through a microscope, University of Vermont scientist Andrew Christ looked at twigs and leaves from seabed sediment from almost a mile deep drilling in Greenland [that had been drilled by the US Army and stored in a freezer since 1966], showing that it was once covered with forests.
Dick Mol, an amateur paleontologist, found a mammoth vertebrae in about 2009 on the bottom of the North Sea when a trawler was dredging the sea floor to make sure of the required depth of 80 feet for the shipping lanes, that shows that at one time, this was once land, where mammoths roamed, just like cows roaming in a pasture.
For example, a frozen mammoth was uncovered in Siberia in 1901, whereby vegetation was still in its mouth and stomach (green buttercups), and its flesh was still edible when thawed out, called the Berezovka mammoth (excavated from the Berezovka river) that was excavated and shipped back to St. Petersburg, Russia, during an expedition led by Otto Herz and E. Pfizenmayer, showing it was "quick frozen" in a matter of minutes, that the temperature dropped from tropical to some 150 degrees F. below zero "in a heartbeat" of blizzard proportions.
Ivan T. Sanderson (1911-73 C.E.) a biologist and writer born in Edinburgh, Scotland, having a Masters of Arts degree in botany and ethnology, in the The Saturday Evening Post of January 16, 1960, observed concerning the Berezovka mammoth:
"The list of animals that have been thawed out of this mess (in Siberia) would cover several pages.........And there is where we get back to quick-freezing mammoths, for frozen-food experts have pointed out that to do this (or freeze an animal while alive, so that it is well preserved), starting with a healthy specimen, you would have to drop the temperature of the air surrounding it down to a point of well below minus - 150 degrees Fahrenheit (-101.1 degrees Celsius)", almost instantly, which is what occurred when God caused "the heavenly ocean" to fall to the earth, the massive body of water surrounding the earth, and causing the warmth of the earth to rise very rapidly, creating a vacuum for severe cold winds.
And paleontologist Arturo Vildozola found some 500 fossilized oysters, with some with a circumference of 11 feet and weighing up to 650 pounds in Acostambo, Peru in 2001 at an elevation of 12,300 feet above sea level in the Andes Mountains (newspaper El Comercio), showing that it was once under water, establishing that the earth was once "turned upside down", being completely covered with water for a period of some five months during the Noachian Flood.(Gen 6:17; 7:24)
Temperatures plunged so rapidly at or near the poles (or within the Arctic Circle) animals became frozen almost instantly, that what was once a temperate zone where animals of all types thrived now suddenly became frozen.(Gen 7:6)
What else resulted from the Global Deluge ? The eradication of wicked people, including the Nephilim, giant sons of materialized angels that wreaked havoc on mankind.(Gen 6:1-5; 7:21-23; Jude 6, 7) It also resulted in the earth's mantle or surface being buckled to allow for land to be above "the heavenly ocean" of water that now covers the earth, as Psalms 104:6-8 states:
"You (God, whose name is Jehovah, see Isa 12:2, KJV) covered it (the earth) with deep waters as with a garment (Gen 7:17-19). The waters stood above the mountains (Gen 7:19). At your rebuke they fled (Gen 8:1, 2); At the sound of your thunder (or by means of his holy spirit, buckling the earth's mantle) they ran away in panic-Mountains ascended and valleys descended (with the buckling of the earth's surface)-to the place you established for them."
I don't understand the flash freeze timeline for the Berezovka river. The animals couldn't have frozen _before_ the flood or the flood would have melted the ice and destroyed the bodies, or possibly fossilized them. But if they froze _after_ the flood, it would have had to be a number of years later after the ark animals had had an opportunity to multiply, but by then it's not an effect of the flood.
@@KenJackson_US
There was NO ice (nor rain, see Gen 2:6, whereby "a mist would go up from the earth, and it watered the entire surface of the ground") before the Global Deluge, for the ENTIRE earth, from pole to pole, was covered in tropical forests, with the temperature being comfortably warm due to the earth being surrounded by an invisible watery canopy called in Hebrew "ham mabbul" (H3999), literally meaning "the heavenly ocean".(Gen 1:2, 6-8; 6:17)
And the Beresovka river did not exist before the Global Deluge (see Gen 2:10-14), for the Global Deluge in 2370 B.C.E. caused major changes of earth's topography. In describing this change, Psalms 104 says: "Let me praise Jehovah. O Jehovah my God, you are very great.........He has established the earth on its foundations; It will not be moved from its place forever and ever."
"You covered it with deep waters as with a garment (during the Global Deluge). The waters stood (some 22 feet, or 15 cubits, Gen 7:19, 20) above the mountains. At your rebuke they fled (because Jehovah buckled earth's mantle, forming tectonic plates, allowing land to be above the waters, that are now the oceans);"
"At the sound of your thunder they ran away in panic-mountains ascended and valleys descended-to the place you established for them. You set a boundary that they should not pass, that they should never again cover the earth."Ps 104:1, 5-9)
In an article entitled “Riddle of the Frozen Giants,” by Ivan T. Sanderson in the The Saturday Evening Post of January 16, 1960, he observed: "The list of animals that have been thawed out of this mess would cover several pages. . . . They are all in the muck."
"These facts indicated water as the agency which engulfed the creatures. . . . many of these animals were perfectly fresh, whole and undamaged, and still either standing or at least kneeling upright. . . .Here is a really shocking-to our previous way of thinking-picture."
"Vast herds of enormous, well-fed beasts not specifically designed for extreme cold, placidly feeding in sunny pastures, delicately plucking flowering buttercups at a temperature in which we would probably not even have needed a coat."
"Suddenly they were all killed without any visible sign of violence and before they could so much as swallow a last mouthful of food, and then were quick-frozen so rapidly that every cell of their bodies is perfectly preserved, despite their great bulk and their high temperature. What, we may well ask, could possibly do this?”
Frank C. Hibben (1910-2002), an archaeologist at the University of New Mexico, recounted an expedition he made to Alaska in 1941 to look for human remains in his book The Lost Americans (1946). Instead of finding any human remains, "he found miles and miles of icy muck just packed with mammoths, mastodons, and several kinds of bison, horses, wolves, bears and lions (all being together, in which bears and lions were at "peace" with the bison and horses) ."
"Just north of Fairbanks, Alaska, the members of the expedition watched in horror as bulldozers pushed the half-melted muck into sluice boxes for the extraction of gold. Animal tusks and bones rolled up in front of the blades like shavings before a giant plane. The carcasses were found in all attitudes of death, most of them pulled apart by some unexplainable prehistoric catastrophic disturbance."
Hence, only a sudden and dramatic change of temperature (or weather, as some would think) could account for these animals being frozen while standing and eating vegetation. The global flood of Noah's day is the account.
@@timhaley3459 Interesting. But that doesn't answer the question. If they were frozen as the flood started, they wouldn't have been frozen for long because the flood waters would have destroyed them. Ice floats. Do you think that ice stayed submerged for months? But if they were frozen after the flood, it would have taken years to multiply enough animals to fit the descrption. This is still a big puzzle.
@@KenJackson_US
When Jehovah God caused "the heavenly ocean" (Hebrew ham mabbul, Gen 6:17; Ps 29:10), the vaporous body of water surrounding the earth that acted like a thermal blanket, to "drop from the sky" (or "the waters above the expanse" or atmosphere, Gen 1:7), this also caused a very rapid drop in temperature on the earth, especially at the poles (or from the Arctic and Antarctic Circle to the Arctic and Antarctic Poles), for heat rises.
So, with the tropical warmth suddenly rising in a way never seen before or after the Global Deluge, like taking off a thick warm coat off on very cold, wintry day (as at 40 to 50 below zero temperatures), the animals were then subjected to massively freezing temperatures and "quick frozen", and then was quickly covered in silt or mud from the flood waters, frozen and buried, and remained that way due to being above the Arctic or Antarctic Circle, that was permanently frozen year round (or "permafrost") until recent years, when "climate change" has altered this.
Perhaps you are aware that hot water freezes much sooner than cold water under a wide range of circumstances and called the Mpemba effect. The University of California, Riverside, said that "this has been seen to occur in a number of experiments.....there is no well-agreed explanation for how this phenomenon occurs."
Jesus Christ used the backdrop of the Global Deluge to describe people's attitudes today that are the same as just before Flood of Noah's day, that "just as the days of Noah were (from 2490-2370 B.C.E., Gen 6:3) so the presence of the Son of man will be (that began in 1914, when Jesus was crowned king of God's heavenly Kingdom, Dan 7:14, 14; Rev 6:1, 2, and then threw his archenemy Satan, out of heaven, Rev 12:7-9, so that he angrily responded by starting World War I and from then on, keeping "the fire" of nationalism "hot", Rev 12:12). For as they were in those days before the Flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage (apathetic, unconcerned, casually going along in life), until the day that Noah entered into the ark,"
"and they took NO NOTE (that moral conditions and other situations were changing, see Gen 6:5-7, that were "signs" or evidence that things were reaching "a climatic event", called Armageddon, Rev 16:16) until the Flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be."(Matt 24:37-39)
Gave up at the 11 minute mark. I am sure I am not the only one
Great video! A little slow in parts - for someone who knows of the M. Cycles & Precession etc. - but top notch in showing how the historical paradigm of God"s witness in Genesis 6-9 can comfortably explain the singular large ice-age & the fairly rapid extinction of large faunal phyla after it.
The axial tilt of the earth changed due to recent earthquakes larger than 9.0 changed weather patterns needed by the earth in order to survive
Is his accent new zealand? Great informative video by the way God Bless
Dr Walker is Australian. Glad you enjoyed the video!
You got great studio
There will be many who choose not to believe God's word on Creation and the Flood, but there will also be many Christians who will be greatly encouraged by this Biblical teaching, which is much needed. Christians have NOTHING to fear from the Evolution propaganda. The key is for us all to humble ourselves before God's Word and say to Him "Lord, this is YOUR Bible, I pray YOU will teach me". God loves to teach the humble His ways!
But rely on science when you get ill 😀
@@steveworth544Rely on science but not naturalism. True science is learning God's knowledge about the world.
So many inquiries when I read the book of Genesis but it never amazed me how deep we can really dig to discover things. Just amazing! I love that message towards the end!
The bases of submarine canyons are about 3kms deep and they are formed under water.
This indicates that the sea level after the Flood was at that
level.
Such a testimony of God's handiwork, holiness, and judgements to listen to a scientist who believes in God's word. But I recommend we don't say "Noah's Flood" as if he caused it. It was and is God's judgement on the Earth and He produced it. It occurred during Noah's lifetime/generation. Yet by God's grace and mercies, He didn't totally destroy Earth. It was changed as well as the atmosphere, different and so beautiful. Another interesting question is what about ". . . and He sent a wind over the earth and the waters receded." Gene 8:1
The flood story speaks of waters above and waters below. There is evidence of tropical plants found in the stomachs of frozen animals in the northern climates as if the ice age and being frozen happened in hours. Only a massive falling of a thick cloud cover could cause this... Stars could be seen for the first time after the flood.
There was much discussion of the warm oceans with no mention of the cause: ocean floor spreading creating rain for 40 days and heating the ocean water.
Animations and maps would help
In my opinion ice age(s) has something to do with changing distance between earth and sun.
This idea, and it's problems, is discussed in some detail from 8:02 (Milankovitch cycles).
Good video. Excellent content. This video, though, would be much better if pictures were inserted, of the different things he was talking about, instead of just talking heads.
I can argue that the system used to be stable. After sin, the system broke. Nature hasn’t been the same. But I agree with everything else he has said
We agree that the system is definitely suffering under the effects of sin/the curse. But with regard to overall stability, note the personal undertaking that God himself made at the end of the Flood in Genesis 8:22: "While the earth remains, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night, shall not cease." God has personally undertaken to see that the system is stable enough to continue to provide our regular seasons, "as long as earth remains".
Is there any historical accounts from anchient civilizations about the ice age like the flood?
Then there is still the question as to whether a relatively thin hollow sphere of water encapsulated the planet before the flood. That would be another facet of the pre flood environmental
dynamics, and would alter solar radiation amounts, and many other factors during the pre flood timetable.
Hi there, this article addresses Canopy Theory: creation.com/vapour-canopy-problems
It makes sense that people would be scaring themselves as a result of comproming The Word.
Once you understand that every contemporary scientific 'theory' only stands until it's discredited you realise it's only a matter of time before our current understanding of physics, geology etc is shot down. The bible tells the true story of God's glory, from genesis to revelation.
The earth goes round the sun is Just a theory. If you think a scientific theory is the same as theory used daily you should not comment here.
"The bible tells the true story of God's glory, from genesis to revelation." The Bible is merely a collection of fairy tales.
@@Night_Crew_Artist Please learn to distinguish between the vernacular use of the word "theory" and the scientific use of the word "theory".
The last ice age came to an abrupt end due to multiple impacts along the north american ice sheet. The bible does not have any mention of this. But Gobleki tepe does
My BS detector just pegged.
@@ferengiprofiteer9145 its true my friend. You can call BS if you want to. The impact craters are there to be seen. The physical damage left behing from the event can be seen across north america. It was a global cataclysmic event we would not be able to comprehend. And it will not be the last.
@@longdongsilver1255
Don't take such big gulps. The jury is still out on "Carolina bays". Same with interpretations of the Goblekis.
Hancock taints every subject he touches. Randall needs to be a little more discriminating.
IMHO
@@ferengiprofiteer9145 i looked into it myself too. Have you looked at the evidence of the YD boundary layer found in Arizona by the comet research group? Shows all markers pointing towards a cosmic event
_"The_ *last* _ice age"?_ There was only one. The flood's tectonic activity made the oceans hot and the volcanoes made the atmosphere dark and cold. Hot oceans and cold skies. That recipe wasn't repeated.
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The Sun's activity determines whether there is an ice age or not. It all has to do with the Sun.
Sedna came through our Galaxy disturbing everything including the moon, as it passed between the Earth and Mars all the volcanoes on earth erupted at the same time, deep cracks in the crust of the earth broke open allowing the water under the crust to flood the entire earth for one year, debris from the earth impacted the moon pushing it away from us (the earth facing side has the most impacts) etc…
Sedna is the object God used to bring to pass the events of the flood, these events lead to the Ice Age, and the earth is still attempting to heal and go back to “normal” from this event even today
The ice-age came with the flood.
Ice i s water.
It was during the northern hemispheric arctic polar night (according to the dates given in the account: 40 days of heavy and cold precipitation (in absence of sunlight in the North during Nov/Dec/Jan) around 5200 b.p. acc to LXX, Flav. Jos., Sam. Pentateuch, and early Codices).
It was icy slash, avalanches, ravines, deep freezes that killed the northern megafauna in catastrophy.
Antarctic ice-shields began to build up fast only few month later towards and during southern polar night, antarctic winter.
New Zealand, Tasmania, Patagonia, Fireland do not show equal amounts of thick ice-shields as the whole of the northern hemisphere does from the Arctic Ocean (with 900m deep glacial ice-scratches) down to New York and the Mid-West and northern France and Germany, from Greenland over the British Isles, Skandinavia and Siberia).
The account refers to the experience of the author. The cycle of summer and winter is not a phenomenon in the tropics, and has never been.
Sehr interessant, muss ich nachlesen, Danke.
One needs to remember that after the 40 days of rain, the flood waters rose for another 150 days. This would have floated any ice produced during the 40 days of rain away.
So the snow that fell to produced the ice age had to fall after the flood had washed the earth's surface clean.
One needs to remember that after the 40 days of rain, the flood waters rose for another 150 days. This would have floated any ice produced during the 40 days of rain away.
So the snow that fell to produced the ice age had to fall after the flood had washed the earth's surface clean.
@@roblangsdorf8758
Good reply. Thanks. The ice would have begun to float if those waters after the 40 days rose above them. But that was not the case in general. The ice-shield had risen up 3000-4000 meters. The waters from the deep in most places rose not beyond the ice-shield so that they would float.
To assume an ice-age apart from the Antarctic developing after the flood is highly unlikely.
Besides, we ought to remember that the account was written from the survivors' perspective, not from a bird's eye's view above the whole earth. And ice is to be considered as water, too, much like the stratospheric water vapour was called water by the narrator who I believe was this man: Noah by name.
How did different animals get isolated on continents with no evidence of them on other continents? Example, marsupials in Australia. If they traveled from the middle East 4k years ago, why aren’t there any along the route?
I am assuming that the oceans became warmer, not through the sun,, but by hydrothermal vents when the water was released from below the ocean? This in turn heated up the atmosphere in a new equilibrium to add more H2O as water, clouds and ice.
The oceans were warmed through the unprecedented level of tectonic activity/volcanism that accompanied the Flood. E.g., see creation.com/ice-age-model
This is just my take: you won’t hear this from hardly anyone else.
but it is consistent with the cmi response you already got.
they said tectonic activity and volcanism.
i think submarine and sub aerial volcanism were very significant contributors. sub marine volcanism heated the water. sub aerial volcanism blocked radiation from the sun.
and i also think that the spreading sea floor due to run away continental sprint (not run away subduction) contributed greatly to the warming ocean.
after that it is simple. increased ocean temperature means increase in evaporation which means increased cloud formation which means increased cooling.
But below the clouds the air stays fairly warm due to *** green house effect ***. Yes, water vapor is a very strong green house gas. CO2 is a very weak green house gas.
so it’s warm winters (relatively speaking) and cooler summers due to more shade.
so the accumulation doesn’t melt back fast enough to keep up with annual precipitation.
The main point that i differ from cmi on is subduction causing continental sprint.
subduction is not a viable mechanism to move continents.
I’m sure the continents sprinted, but not because of any kind of slab push or pull due to subduction.
@@mmaimmortals The problem being peer reviewed science is untrustworthy, and I need to further my own research, but one thing we can likely agree upon is the energy source behind marine temperatures has come from below the crust through volcanism, hydrothermal vents and subduction zones helped along by plate tectonics. They must exist, but I can't recall stumbling upon any scientific literature attributing ocean temperatures to core temperatures, only the sun
@@tracer7898
Thanks for the reply.
I think your comment about hydro thermal vents is valid.
It's just that the way I think about them is that they contribute significantly less heat transfer to the ocean at large because the fluids have already absorbed a significant amount of heat from direct contact with magmatic or mantle material producing a cooling effect on the rocky material at the contact zone. The latent heat of water vaporization is much, much higher than that for liquid temperature change in water.
By definition, hydro thermal vents have already been in contact with hot rock of some sort, so they are an intermediate heat transfer device. The pressure release of such sub oceanic chambers also induces rapid cooling of the liquid.
Many creationists subscribe to the idea of run away subduction being triggered by accelerated nuclear decay (AND).
I don't think either are valid mechanisms at all.
@@tracer7898Unfortunately, peer review often is a process that asks people who disagree with the standard narrative to take a hike off the end of a long pier. Such pier review processes have delayed much scientific discovery.
The theory might help explain the shift in the earths magnetic field.
Here's a resume : no it doesn't.
Wait - New Zealand isn't a continent? Didn't they identify Zealandia in 2023?
just wached it. was very interesting to watch . and very well done . great info. i really enjoyed it. i am a firm belever in the bible and the flood and in biblical creation.
Are you old enough to vote?
If the ice that is deep in glaciers or sheets on Greenland is from the flood then there should be higher levels of salt in it. Not as high as the ocean but not salt free like snow.
its not flood water that froze. It was rainwater/snowfall (which greatly increased in amounts due to the flood warming the oceans), which increased drastically due to greater evaporation from the oceans. .
Exodus 15:8 And with the blast of Your nostrils The waters were gathered together; The floods stood upright like a heap; The depths congealed in the heart of the sea.
The world Conjealed probably means the water turned to ice due to the wind blowing over and into the water.
Genesis 8:1
Then God remembered Noah, and every living thing, and all the animals that were with him in the ark. And God made a wind to pass over the earth, and the waters subsided.
This time a wind was accross the earth not just the red sea.
Perhaps the waters receded because vast areas of seawater turned to ice due to the wind as in the red sea parting account but this time on a global scale.
And these days the sea ice is melting and the sea level is rising again and has probably been rising for ages given ancient submerged cities found off coastliness accross the world.
I suspect this may have been a major contributor to the ice age after the flood but its speculation on my part and needs more investigation.
How can Noah grow a vineyard in that climate? Or does the cold came slowly?
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THE WATER ABOVE , WAS IT LIQUID WATER OR ICE THAT FELL?
50 to 60 meters, but down south US, there is a forest in the water, we canause that level???
How do you explain the ‘snap frozen’ mammoths?
Like the Flood, the power involved was off the scale, and there must have been a whole series of dramatic changes following the catastrophic worldwide Flood, including sudden changes of climate as the earth's climate adjusted to a new beginning. Sudden changes obviously caught out the mammoths, hence the 'snap-frozen' state of many of the mammoth fossils. Remember, this underlines that the intact mammoths died AFTER the Flood, wheras the intact skeletal dinosaur fossils were suddenly formed DURING the Flood, after being suddenly entombed by the massive soil-laden tidal waves of the Flood.
The cloud cover after the Flood was MUCH less, and consequently the climate was MUCH cooler. God knew It would have been pointless to preserve the dinosaurs in the Ark, as the much cooler earth would have made it impossible for those massive cold-blooded animals to survive. It all makes sense.
Decent question, one that wasn't provided in this video from what I heard. My guess would be a sudden drop in temperature, like the 70 degree drop in temperature I experienced within a half-hour one sunny day a blizzard moved in just outside of Cheyanne Wyoming one afternoon while I was on the side of the road hitchhiking. Only worse than that was. Much worse even.
@@willoughby1888 from what I understand, it would have to be very extreme (apparently even modern day industrial snap freezing can’t replicate it). I’m not saying it means the bible is wrong, it’s just I would like to hear a possible explanation.
@@openmindedmedia-rob It had to be something, I took my best guess as to how it might have happened. Maybe deep frozen liquids underground erupted and suddenly turned into gases. Those creatures didn't just solidly freeze in a snap all on their own.
Hi there! See this article here! creation.com/the-extinction-of-the-woolly-mammoth-was-it-a-quick-freeze
Long Island in Nerw York State, was formed by the rocks being dropped in place by the glaciers. That is primarily known as the North Shore. The South Shore was built up over time as the sand was pushed by the currents against the rock, it getting longer and longer away from the rock. Over time again, soil was made that spread out over the sand. Eventually leaving only a thin patch of sand in the South and the Barrier Islands Like Fire Island.
This was a video alright. Of all the videos, this was definitely one. I'm kinda shocked tbh. I found it troubling that he cherry picks the science he likes and ignores or discounts the science he doesn't like based solely on whether or not it confirms his narrative. He didn't even address the heat problem or how all the animals got to where they are. I'm sure all those tropical animals walked thru a frozen earth to get to the places they belong lol. We didn't talk about the consequences of oceans covering the land. Where did all the salt go? Did it just slide back into the oceans? If this whole flood thing actually happened the earth would be a barron wasteland and the remaining people would all starve to death or die of dehydration. Real question, why does it matter so much that the flood happened? I know plenty of Christians and Jews who don't believe genesis is literal. I see no reason to try and reconcile this poetry with reality. Furthermore, if genesis has to be literal, then every book has to be literal. When was the last time any woman you know sacrificed 2 turtle doves at the temple after their period?
Please use the search bar on creation.com to put in those questions. The answers are there.
Very quickly: Things were pretty temperate at the end of the Flood. Earth wasn't a frozen wasteland. It took around 500 years for ice to reach it's maximum, and even then, most of the earth WASN'T covered in snow. So how creatures got to where they are is no problem. See creation.com/biogeography for much more. Salt deposits would be noticeable in trapped inland water reservoirs (i.e. inland seas), but not elsewhere, as the receding Floodwaters were REMOVING sediment as they rushed off the continents and into the sea, rather than gently depositing it. Much more on how the Flood would have happened is on our site.
@creationministriesintl if the earth wasn't frozen over, then animals could never get to places like Australia or the Americas from the Middle East. Your explanation for the salt doesn't make logical sense. Salt water is a solution. Anywhere the water goes, the salt leaves behind a residue. Look at any place where a sea has dried up and you will find enough salt to mine. All of this is moot anyway since the events as proposed by the flood model would turn the earth into a ball of liquid hot magma. You didn't actually answer my real question tho. Lots of Christians seem to do ok reconciling an old earth and evolution with their faith. Why does the genesis narrative have to be literally true?
No its not the only record of noahs flood there is a written history many thousands of years earlier than the bible of the flood It also give a way more detailed discription of what happened
Dinosaurs do not have gills like fish so as the Bible said every living thing died in the waters
Okay, here's a soft question. The Ice Age must have been a really big deal. Perhaps not the whole Earth, but a pretty large portion of it. It would have impacted every known human civilization, including, and especially, the people living after The Flood. So we have The Flood account in Genesis 6-9. But nobody thought of writing about the "Ice Age", in the biblical text? No mention of it at all, by anybody, that the world was colder? No one was concerned with it happening?
Sort of an extension of my previous post. Can we have a cite of where the Ice Age is in the text?
every known human civilization?
If it started only 200 years after the Flood there were very few civilizations and a whole lot of empty land.
The book of Job mentions 14 different forms of water, including hoary frost, snow, and ice.
but he didn’t live in the european regions where the ice accumulation was great.
not likely very many people at all lived that far north that early after the flood. the ones who did weren’t biblical contributors.
the bible is mostly centered around the middle east which was much less affected by mass snow and ice accumulation.
See this article: creation.com/why-no-mention-of-the-ice-age-in-the-bible
@@SheridanFalkenberry Uh-huh
@@SheridanFalkenberry A little bit more time to respond, I was in my car and just had a chance to skim the article. They gave 3 reasons; it wasn't important enough, it was gradual so the people may not have noticed, although when they got to the end of the temperature drop, it would be hard not to, and the ice wasn't around in the Middle East. Reasons two and three, are not complimentary, and sort of contradict each other.
Now; here's the problem, if it wasn't in the Bible and the Ice Age didn't touch the Middle East, how do we know WHEN it was exactly without anything written down to corroborate it? It occurred after The Flood. How without anything written down, and the people in AiG and CMI, not being alive at the time, did we figure that out?
@copyright - as the water above the firmament disappeared, its warming effect on the earth disappeared so the earth began to freeze in certain places. Similarly if the Spirit of God did not move upon the face of the deep it would have begun to freeze, making biomass creation difficult
The great die-off can be easily answered by the flood the water's not only rose up from the earth they erupted from the skies.
The oxygen levels in the actual air they breathe Before the Flood was much richer which is why everything was so big. Afterwards it's not, those big animals no longer were able to survive. The size of every living creature on the Earth would have been different.
The ice age came after the world wide flood.
I want to know more about after the flood and after the Tower of Babel a man is born and the earth is divided. What effect did that have upon man and the animals. I feel like we teach during the flood the earth divided but the Bible says it’s after God divided man with language because man was not covering the earth but staying together and building a tower
An ice age after the flood and during the time of the Tower of Babel would have made expansion and exploration possible because of ice land bridges, like in the Bering Sea.
Days of Peleg.......1 Chronicles 1:19 KJV
And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of the one was Peleg; because in his days the earth was divided: and his brother's name was Joktan.
Peleg was the sign that the continents were to split up into what we see today on a map.
@@AnthonyJones-vk6xq could it be that melting ice raised the ocean level thereby dividing the earth into continents with water without breaking or splitting up the earth There is evidence of a sea level roughly 200 feet less at some time.
@@jerryharder1381 Personally i do not know what exactly happened at this period, i was not there ! however only one text describes the events in the book of Genesis.
However modern atheists insist its just a fairy tale and its all down to global warming !
Certainly the sea level we have today is higher than previous times when you consider structures like 'The ancient Roman town of Baiae' found beneath the sea level today.
That's an easy question. There was never a global flood and there was never a tower of babel. I suggest you look up the heat problem where a global flood would literally liquefy the entire earth. You can look to almost every branch of science and find contradictions to biblical flood model. You can also look at the evolution of languages and clearly see that there was no event that caused people to suddenly speak different languages. These stories were made by people as an attempt to explain the world.
Fun opinions
Tell them why the axis angle changes the perpendicularity of the suns rays that changes amt energy earth recieves
Occam's Razor is on the side of the less complex putative solution...
I would agree, because a Creator and creation is the most putative. The simplest explanation is that intelligence designed everything rather than everything formed by chance without any intervention of intelligence.
@@troyezell5841 The Intelligent Designer hypothesis suffers from being oversimplistic.
@@troyezell5841 If you examine the mechanisms of the alternative to an intelligent designer, you're left with no alternative at all. Errors don't accumulate to form the complex, hierarchical, interdependent systems observed in life. Life was designed.
@@user-on3wh6wu9n that is an oversimplified answer of simplicity without answering the simple answer.
@@KenJackson_US precisely. Complexity is always a consequence of intelligence.
How long would it take a mating pair of land tortoises to walk from Mt. Ararat to the tip of South America?
With God everything is possible
@@rolandopera7273 So you can't answer, or at least try to answer?
@@klouis1886If by the the tip of South America you mean the Galapagos Islands, then they would take approximately: 4.454637964774951076320939334638 years
Short answer: no ONE tortoise did.
Long answer: The continents began fracturing apart shortly after the Flood. Within a few centuries, the continental splitting accelerated. By that time, generations of animals had dispersed into all remote corners of the Land Mass/es. Tortoises might be slow, but not as slow as we like are given to think. The image of ONE (fully egg-laden) tortoise walking all the way from Ararat to South America... and another floating on some raft off to the Galapagos Islands... is one that fills the mind. But that is NOT what the Biblical account would have as consistent with reality. The Galapagos Islands arose as a mantle plume, between the Nazca and Cocos plates. It is possible that the mantle plume's flange was above water at one point and was connected to the North American continent, forming a bridge, before sinking.
They could have taken an Uber
Which bible characters when thought the ice age?
Fascinating ideas, reassuring that we don’t have to wake up worried and fretful
I agree with his explanation for the Ice Age but the Continent’s separation I have to grit my teeth as the only way they can explain there theory is to flip Africa and reduce it by nearly 50%!
They did not separate the water i.e: fountains of the deep shot out of the crack as it zipped around the world shooting water & mountain sized rock & tons of dirt, smaller rocks mixed with the water! Most of the rocks fell back down to the earth causing the great craters we see all around the world but others flew out into space striking the moon, while others are probably what caused the craters on Mars and a lot of the asteroids!
The debris fell back with the rain which mixed with the water helping to create the d
sedimentary layers we find all over the world and burying all the vegetation & animal life all over the world even on top of the mountains!
No dound
The Bible says that the area around the five city's of the plains
Where a well watered plain ?
Now it's not so much but in lots days it was good for shep an cattle
Read it in where Abraham an lot
Had issues with there shep an cattle
So does this apply to all the 5 major ice ages or just the ones that make you feel good about your beliefs?
the first link in the links and shownotes section of the description seems to go into that.
EDIT: he actually also goes into it in this video.
The video explains there has only been one ice age.
@@ictkanzin5314 actually 2 look at the feed and times
There is no scientific evidence for 5 ice ages. You must not believe in science.
God had nothing to do with the ice age it was a natural process
I hate to criticize my Christian brothers, but, Boy, have you missed some stuff.
You never mentioned the 'waters above the firmament' (Genesis 1:6.)
Where are they now? What was their purpose? In the original creation the Earth
was surrounded by like a huge soap bubble above the atmosphere. This would have
had the same effect as a hyperbaric chamber -- it would have greatly increased
atmospheric pressure, and would have provided the Earth with a benign greenhouse.
In fact it created the ideal environment for plant and animal growth worldwide. This is why
there is evidence of lush rainforest worldwide, including Antarctica.
Where are the 'waters above the firmament' now? They are not there. They collapsed during
the 40 days of continuous rain at the beginning of the Flood.
This removed the beneficial effects of the greenhouse .Hence the poles got colder, and the
equator got hotter, as it is today, and atmospheric pressure dropped to today's level.
The massive, worldwide fossil beds are obviously caused by the Flood, drowning and depositing almost every living thing. The fossil beds indicate the massive animal and
vegetation life due to the pre-Flood climate. Assuming the Noah took members of every
animal species on board the Ark, what happened to the dinosaurs? Well, being cold-blooded, the post Flood climate did not suit them, and so most of them died out. Also humans hunted them (dragons) to extinction.
It is interesting that the ice age is not mentioned in Scripture. Surely it would have been in the time of Abraham?
As I understand it, there a two main types of animal remains: fossils and frozen.
Fossils are obviously the direct result of the Flood. However, in Siberia there are animal
remains, which appear to be blast-frozen. Evidence points towards high winds around
-50c. Mammoths are found with fresh fodder in their mouths and stomachs.
All this takes some explaining. I have to say that I found this presentation, convoluted, confusing, unconvincing and inaccurate
The vapour canopy idea was once popular among creationists, but has long been discarded, for both scientific and biblical reasons. Please see here: creation.com/vapour-canopy-problems
You'll be interested to read more discussion about 'the waters above' on creation.com (just use the search bar). Here are some articles:
→ The ‘waters above’ in Genesis 1-a brief survey of competing interpretations - creation.com/waters-above-survey
→ The ‘waters above’ - creation.com/the-waters-above
→ The ‘waters above’ do not surround all galaxies: A critique of the ‘cosmic shell’ interpretation of Genesis 1:6-8 - creation.com/waters-above-cosmic-shell-critique
Also, there's good reason why the Bible wouldn't specifically mention the Ice Age:
→ Why no mention of the Ice Age in the Bible? creation.com/why-no-mention-of-the-ice-age-in-the-bible
In my 30’s trying to correct the “science” I learned growing up in public school.
Which bits are you trying to correct? What was wrong with the science you were taught at school?
How sad
@@aprylvanryn5898 No, not sad. I’m just thankful God has been revealing to truth of creation to me.
@@michaelfourie345 Maybe “trying to correct” wasn’t an accurate way for me to word that. Just grateful to God for his truth. I was taught the lie of macro evolution growing up.
@Rinebo faith can be a beautiful thing, but not when it's making you deny reality. You can keep your faith without believing nonsense like the pseudoscience presented in this video. You are actively trying to know less true things because it makes you feel good. That's sad to me.
Does the Bible talk about snowball earth too?
Yes. I think somewhere in Genesis it makes mention of Adam and Eve watching all of the dinosaurs migrate South to avoid the glaciers while they were ice skating.
there was no snowball earth. and there was no hadaen period either.
@@mmaimmortals What geologic time periods/layers were there?
@@haggismcbaggis9485
Not sure exactly what you mean by this question: What geologic time periods/layers were there?
There was an earth created in six days. There was geologic calm for the most part for the next 1656 years. There there was a global flood that lasted about 1 year with high intensity.
An ice age began sometime after that. Some creationists think it started about 150 to 200 years after the Flood. The Ice Age lasted about 500 to 700 years. And every since the end of the Flood, the earth has been shifting and settling with earthquakes, tsunamis, and decelerating continental drift.
@@haggismcbaggis9485
BTW, I read much of your conversation with JJ on a different thread.
You brought up some interesting questions, most of which have simple, straightforward answers.
I did see the Myron Cook video explaining his idea of snowball earth. It's not realistic at all.
samaritan chronology like masoretic puts flood at 3168 BC which makes way more sense.
What sense?
Gods Word is Amazing! He put a verse in Gen 10:25 that affirms a POST ice age effect of melting land and sea ice.
The ocean levels rose to a point, in Peleg's lifetime(Born: 2226 BC Died: 1987 BC), that the LAND masses were DIVIDED. You could no longer walk on dry land to other Continents.
There are ancient shorelines with hewn timbers at the bottom of the Black Sea. The Mediteranean s levels rose to a point of overflowing into it.
There are ancient shorelines in the North Sea that have human artifacts on them.
In Hebrew, the word "earth" in verse 25 is "erets" and is in the old testament over 2100 times. It means EARTH, terra firma, Every time.
It is the same word in Gen 1:1. " In the Beginning, God created the Heavens and the EARTH " SAME WORD- "erets"
Gen 10:25 "And unto Eber, were born two sons. One was Peleg, for in his day, the EARTH was divided"
Eber was a great-grandson of Noah's son Shem and the father of Peleg, born when Eber was 34 years old, and of Joktan. He was the son of Shelah, a distant ancestor of Abraham.
Psalm 102:18
Let this be recorded for a generation to come, so that a people yet to be created, may praise the Lord
How old is the Earth?
Great question! The answer is less than 10,000 years.
Here are 101 Evidences for a young earth:
creation.com/age-of-the-earth
@@SheridanFalkenberry The Bible does not tell us the age.
To say the earth is less than 10.000 years old is a doctrine invented by the Seventh Day Adventists based on the visions of Ellen G White
"International Council of Biblical Inneracy" condemns YounEarth as bad hermeneutics
The earth is roughly 4.5 billion years old.
@@SheridanFalkenberry "Here are 101 Evidences for a young earth:" The link goes to a magnificent piece of nonsense. Thanks for the laughter. 😀
I wonder why he is not asking the hard question. How long was that "age"? 20,000 years ago? 6,000 years ago? 1,000,000 years ago?
he did answer it.
it was post flood.
which means less than 4400 years ago.
they mostly believe it started about 150 to 200 years after the Flood and later between 500 to 700 years before serious decline.
that means it started about 4200 years ago and lasted until about 3500 years ago.
how did the tiny flightless birds get to New Zealand including the Kiwi bird let alone the the Giant moas . You have not provided a land bridge theory for birds to get to New Zealand
For your interest:
→ creation.com/origin-of-flightless-birds
→ creation.com/biogeography
Did God create the Earth and Heavens in 6 Days? No, I don't adhere to this belief. Can He? He could do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that is according to His will. I do believe the Earth is ~3.5 billion years old and Mankind was a 'SPECIAL' creation ~6,000 to 8,000 years ago. There was SOMETHING going on planet Earth for BILLIONS of years BEFORE Mankind came onto the scene.
Let me pose a question in defense of my belief which doesn't place my belief in the Lord Jesus Christ in peril.
IF God(Jesus Christ the Word), created the ENTIRE material Universe AND Earth only ~6,000 - 8,000 years ago, why place Adam and the Animal Kingdom in a SPECIAL AREA and PROTECTED AREA, i.e. the Garden of Eden? Wouldn't the ENTIRE Earth, being BRAND SPANKING NEW be a Garden?
Remember, a garden is usually for something special and to be protected. Why ANY need for protection in this case??
Science is yhwhs krypton.
funny how your theories pulled from the bible, are more valid than scientific theories, about the ice age, additionally, water came from somewhere for the flood, became snow for the ice, and then melted again, where did it go?
They receded back into the Earth. Genesis 7:11 says that "the fountains of the great deep burst forth".
Biblical geology is quite possibly the most fascinating thing EVER! And Dr. Walker was spot on by saying that since the Bible is true historically and geologically, it is also morally and spiritually true as well.
@@michaelfourie345 you know Michael, you are partially right. Could have been less negative but that’s ok. For myself, I believe the Bible contains truth, but I know it doesn’t explain creation, age of the earth, or the ice age in full detail. I’d call this research a theory based on biblical evidence. I believe that nobody, except the Creator, knows the full details of creation. And hopefully I can ask him about it one day
The only way you get anything even resembling science from the Bible, is when people use olympic level mental gymnastics.
There may be several explanation including the bible. And Scientist must be open to all explanation, and see which best explains. That is an open minded approach.
Which quickly rules out the Bible
@@ozowen Then you are close minded. You only choose what you like and shut off what you hate.
@@manuaiipondraken8376 "Then you are close minded. You only choose what you like and shut off what you hate." The Bible is demonstrably nonsense.