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- (Re-uploaded after copyright take down) Join Gary and Iain for a review and discussion of, Alien Resurrection (1997) by Director, Jean-Pierre Jeunet. Starring, Sigourney Weaver, Winona Ryder, Ron Perlman and Brad Dourif.
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At around minute three you can see just how pissed Gary is getting at Iain trying to defend this movie, he physically can’t contain his disgust 😂😂
I hate this freaking movie whedon fucked up I remember I was pissed sitting in that theater think this movie Is shit who thought comedy Was a good idea
The best part of this movie was Sigourney Weaver’s epic basketball ball shot...which was real!!!
The problem is, the Aliens DON'T SPIT ACID! This is something Alien Resurrection introduced that had never been done before. In Alien 3, the dogburster spit SOMETHING at one of the prisoners that caused him to fall into the that huge fan, but it wasn't clear it was acid. It makes no sense for the Aliens to spit acid.
Thank you. Never was it even suggested that xenomorphs can spit blood in the trilogy. Acid is their blood, not their saliva!!
Yeah the xenomorph in Alien 3 just spit its slime/saliva at the guy. Nothing more to it.
The movie should have been how Ripley is struggling with her humanity being a clone and having the xenomorphs DNA in her.
Not a stupid slasher in space.
At the time I hated it but as time moves on I like it more and more.
Yes, these are by far the best moments they explore in the actual film
This movie failed where New Nightmare was able to succeed. This was a Wes Craven parody of the Alien series.
The hybrid looks like Frank Langellas Skeletor
For me this movie belongs with jason x and deep blue sea, a guilty pleasure.
This was an entry into the series that I happily ignored after the first time I'd seen it. I've probably seen it again since, but it's not one that I ever feel compelled to watch. Admittedly, it does have it's moments and the core idea the cloning is quite an interesting topic to explore. Unfortunately, the final product leaves something to be desired. It's a film I would recommend that _Alien_ fans see at least once, but to everyone else the recommendation stops at _Aliens._ There's films that you "should see" and unfortunately, this isn't one of them.
P.S. the idea of using the chest burster to kill the guy is also stupid for another reason. How did the guy know that would happen? He's never seen it before and had no reason to believe that the baby Xeno would have enough birthing power to punch through a dudes skull bone... twice.
That newborn alien looks like Greasy Strangler.
3:37 SHE CAN SWIM LONGER; SHE DOESN'T NEED TO BREATHE! She could've gone out the ship, done a little space walk, noone else could've done it so who cares how she got around? And why didn't she go to open yet another door so they don't have to swim through water? BECAUSE SHE CAN'T REVEAL HERSELF AS AN ANDROID! She only reveals herself TO RIPLEY in "let's keep it between us freaks" confession.
The art direction is good, but that's about all that this movie has going for it. And Michael Wincott, he's always good.
The one good idea of the movie was to advance the timeline hundreds of years away from Ripley - the bad idea was to get Ripley back...
If they make a proper Alien-Reboot/whatever - go further into the future. Don't use Ripley, don't use Weyland Yutani, get instead the military etc. And set it all on an Alien Planet with wird, intimidating, unexplainable architecture and geometry. Go wild here with the sets, and have the Alien's be scary again...somehow...
seeing clone 7 reawakened number 8's humanity
Ive never been able to make sense of the Ripley clone having a Queen inside her. How the frick does that work??? Okay, cloning Ripley i can believe, but how does her clone have a Queen chestburster growing in her? If someone shoots me in the face and i die and then someone clones me, does that mean my clone will have a bullet lodged in his skull? If i eat a cheesburger and then get cloned, will the clone have a cheesburger in his stomach? It just doesnt make sense to me. Nothing in this movie really makes sense to me, it honestly just feels like a parody. At least its better than Prometheus and Alien Covenant, tho
Did you make sense of the egg on the sulaco in Alien 3?
HOLD ON!!! I always interpreted the scene with Ripley and the Alien as a sex scene.
Alexander Nixon that's what they say. I didn't know either I thought it was so weird and out of place.
It's cuz they view Ripley as part of the hive and because she views them as family. It was taking her home. It was more like a mother/child thing.
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Better than Alien 3 for me.
no
@@xsm5525what ? Your saying it’s not better for him
Cool review, as always but... one thing guys - in extended cut, Christi tells Vincent (soldier-boy) about granades he uses - that is what explains multiple explosion in a trap scene ;)
The first 3/4 of Alien resurrection was awesome but when the alien human hybrid showed up the movie went down
I agree..it got kinda silly near the end
That totally ruined the movie for me the stupid new born...At least what they did in Romulus was light yrs better with the huge suprise near the end of the film..
The Pilot: I'll give you my authorisation codes, it's "EA TM E" (EAT ME) 😅😅😅😅😅
The release year says (1992), just wanted to let you guys know.
35:00 Mark onward! You guys make so much sense, YES THIS MOVIE WOULD SUCK if it weren't for the previous 3! And I agree that baby is unsettling and that we are kind of familiar with the alien. I really did shit my pants when I saw that thing for the first time. And, I agree that it's really not "alien enough", but it's really scary.
*Turn Up*
I absolutely loved Alien Resurrection.
The best thing that I could say about Resurrection is that it never took itself too seriously. It almost has a comic book quality to it. The Betty's crew were great. The Newborn was horrible, though. At least they removed the giant vagina in post production.
+King Bugs
The problem is that the Alien franchise SHOULD take themselves seriously. I'm not sure how Resurrection's idea to add humour is considered a good thing
Well, not a 3 Stooges slapstick type humour, certainly, but more of a whistling-past-the-graveyard, dark style. Aliens had a measure of this, and many consider it to be the best. I can agree with the sentiment that there should be some serious entries into the franchise, but I must submit Covenant as an example of how terribly wrong taking itself too seriously can be.
+King Bugs
I wish they'd scrap the prequels. I don't consider them canon personally. Part of what makes the franchise so good is the mystery and fear of the unknown.
The derelict ship in Alien could have come from a billion different galaxy's, it's eventual demise could be for a million different reasons.
But no, now we know the Alien was created by an android named David, who engineered the alien in his Dr.Jeckyll lab and ikes to play the flute and quote scripture. And the black goo is a...Bio weapon? But it might also not be? And the aliens also spawn from plants? For.Fucks.Sake.
I went to see Alien Resurrection during it's theatrical run and hated it but it's a damn site more watchable than these pretensious prequels.
100% agree. The black goo is nothing but a flawless plot device, like they introduced Superman to the Alien universe, shattering all restraint and grounding whatsoever. I also saw Resurrection during it's theatrical release, and I did not like it at the time, but I've come to change my mind about it in recent years, after seeing the direction Alien has taken.
+King Bugs
I think if Resurrection was a random stand alone sci fi film it would be perfectly acceptable. It's only when you hold it against the first 3 that you know how shit it is in comparison.
Did you ever play the Alien Isolation game? They should have adapted THAT into a film. It's atmosphere and tone would have been enough to please the fans, and at the same time have a new setting and characters.
The Alien franchise could continue and be simple, yet effective, rather than over complicate things with this "Maybe the aliens were created by a race that also created life on earth" shit we're being dealt.
still better then alien prequels, and both avp movies
Hey man I like AVP 1
JE Freeman seemed like a nice man and he played a right bastard in this so that is good acting.
God, Sigourney Weaver is so beautiful in this movie. In the others as well but I watch them way more often than this one, so this wasn't so present in my head...
While I agree with most of this video's criticism, I do disagree with the music so much. At moments I thought that Dr. Evil would show up with his pinky finger on the corners of his mouth and starting with his evil laughter, because the music sounds almost identical to AUSTIN POWERS and its Dr. Evil theme.
The script/novelization and even the comic book based on the script were way better and Joss Whedon's complains about what they did on the film is clear when one reads the novelization. He hated the design choices, the musical score, the lighting, the casting and the line delivery, where he clearly stated that though all of the actors said the actual lines on the film, they said them with the wrong emotions. I would had loved to have seen ALIEN RESURRECTION done like ALIEN COVENANT, and though I utterly HATE that film, it does look beautiful and had it AR been done as AC, it would had been so good.
I always thought the newborn Alien was another Ripley variant. It makes sense considering how it reacts to the Alien queen and then to Ripley.
To me this was better than the thrid one.
I agree with you john ashley alien resurrection is better than alien 3
In the underwater sequence answer actually really really funny the alien just got hit by a rocket launcher
There is also alien resurrection video game on play station
What the hell happened to your audio here from 37:40-38:00??? Couldn't understand you guys at all.
Apologies for the sound issue, after a re-cut for copyright I missed that audio gaff - Gary
How do the Aliens know they have acid for blood? If you weren't told, would you know what you had inside you unless you cut yourself? And even then you wouldn't know what it was. The spitting thing makes more sense. It would be an instinctual attack. Now, if there was a scene where they tried that, and then worked it out, turning to each other saying "Hey Yogi, that acid spit almost worked, you reckon Dave has some hardcore shit inside him?". "Why Boo-Boo, you know what, he probably does... hey Dave, wanna come over here for a second, nothing important". Then as they escape down the hole it's like a WB cartoon, as there's a pause, look at the camera as a fourth wall break with subtitles saying "I'm smarter than the average Xenomorph". Then the Alien drops down the hole. Edit in the du du du du dudud du music if needed.
I am pretty sure any animal knows the properties of it's bodily fluids.
In Aliens, they attack, but are confronted by the automatic guns. Then they decide to find another way in and remain hidden by moving through the ceiling.
Aliens are intelligent, like cats.
Actually - think of the Betty crew as GOTG "ravagers" and the whole film looks a bit different...?
Somehow i like how wierd the scientists and the military are in this movie, they are moraly so degenerated, it almost makes this film a grotesque. Another thing i liked is that the android is the most empathic being. The crew around Ripley comes a long like in an adventure movie which makes it less authentic but i let that slip after Alien 3 Depression. The human-alien synthesis is literaly too slimy.
the score sounds like the Dr. Evil theme (Austin Powers) at times ... lol
Say what?
The last proper 18 rated gory alien kill fest before the watered down PG and 15 rated Alien/crossover movies.
This movie is so nostalgic to me, I grew up with this movie, it is the first alien movie I saw and still watchable to me, the problem with this movie is that has to many wrong decisions, bad writing, it’s like the director wanted to make a serious dark movie and the writer wanted to make a something else and the tone of the movie is all over the place but I love the look of the xenomorphs, no bad effects, no bad cgi but I do hate the new born design, it was god awful, but nevertheless this movie gets a 3/5 from me..
Captain was NOT a villain in The Doors.
16:30 that’s Bureaucracy For ya! Ever been in the military?
Is Alien Resurrection a commentary on Vietnam?
That would be aliens
What!..... 200 years has gone from Alien 3 and only clone number 8 ?
Ripley swims with the same grace as the xenomorph. If I didn’t know any better I’d say they were natural underwater beings
They had water instead of a furnace in a kinda tribute to Alien 3
I always thought Christie committed suicide on the ladder, as he was a "vain man" who had seen his face get destroyed by acid, and decided that he could not go forward with such a disfigurement.
When Michael Wincott died, I knew this was going to be dire.
Great movie
Yes! Alien Resurrection could of been better. It was a good movie. Ripley is now part alien. I like Brad dwarf. He will always be Chicky to me. When the alien grabs him. I was like! The Xenomorph got Chicky. The Queen Alien was planning on making the perfect organism of her own. It back fired thanks to the new born. I use to call it. The White Thing.
In Alien "1 "Brett and Parker (remember them) talk about "the company " "The company " are the unseen force behind every single movie in this whole franchise and are the more dangerous than the Xenomorph , because they from day one in a constant
battle to control the creature by any means necessary.
The real name of the company is 20th Century Fox
portrayed as Wayland are the unseen force behind every single movie in this franchise , who are in a constant battle to control the creature by any Director and concept necessary in this case the amazing Joss Weedon.
You can tell it's a Joss Weedon project because he has an uncanny ability to handle a large ensemble of talented actors as he did to even greater effect in his stint with the Avengers .
Ian and Gary say that Joss disassociated himself from the project because of medling by
" the company " and this movie although basically an expanded universe , has as the guys say
some of the most harrowing and thought provoking scenes of all the films AVP included
which for me keep this movie and the franchise
afloat .
Not that Fox only did bad with Alien franchise. They actually saved the first one, the original ending they planed would have ruined the movie. But Fox had them change it and the franchise was born
I really don't understand the hate this movie generates. Ron Perlman in anything is the fuckin' tits.
Saying Jeunet went on to make some pretty good films has to be the understatement of the decade. The man is one of our times greatest filmmakers. His movies is a masterclass of cinema.
CONTINUITY ERROR
the XENOMORPHS
weren't wiped out
they're everywhere in the
universe
fantastic reviews year in year out🌈thank you gents.
12:33 you should review The City of Lost Children.
lets be honest, all they had to do for the newborn was to give it human lips, just like Giger's original art for Alien 3.. that in itself would make it unlike anything we're ever seen.. but yea it looks stupid...
I' think y'all were way too critical of this movie. Yes it is not Alien or Aliens, , but just becuase of that it was not a bad movie, you have to consider how good those movies are. And this is good movie too, just not the same as those, as it was made by different people. It certainly is better than 3 or the last two abortions. And it covers more ground and has a deeper storyline than any other Alien movie.
...and here the series goes to shite... Well, until Prometheus, for me anyway.
And one more thing stories are hard to make you can’t just make it out of an oven it takes a smart person to make a Start a story
Guys love your channel but...No speculation on the end of earth.... Why ?!
Maybe he went into shock from the acid
Why does the queen produce eggs and then all of a sudden she has a whom and why has she only got two arms and why when they remove the queen from ripley why does it look like a normal chest burster and why do the aliens look like raptors man I need to get out more
because it was not 100% alien DNA.
it was a RIPLIAN.
and this Ellen Ripley was a ALIELEY, or XENOIPLEY?
either or, either or.
This film is one of my guilty pleasures, sure its not as good as Aliens, but it has a goofy charm
Why the fuck didn't he hive attack the newborn after it attacked and killed the Queen?
From the moment I saw those caged Xenomorphs the film lost me completely. You simply don't cage these species! I've tried hard to forgive Resurrection but I can't... to many flaws, and then there's Winona.
How come she starts the film with the wee baby alien inside her?
Waaaait a minute.....
Ridley Scott did Alien.
Hero of Alien is a character called Ripley.
Ripley.
Ridley.
Ripley Ridley Ripley Ridley.........ShhhhhhhhhiiT
I agree with a lot of things they talked about here. i was there when it came. Resurrection came out when I was 9 or 8 years old, and it's disturbing and grotesque nature gave me nightmare for many years to come because of me seeing this film at that young age. Sure, I had already seen the other three movies so i was used by the horror elements of these films, but this one really pushed the envelope a bit too far. It also has alot of scenes that don't make any sense. Besides that note, in the end of this video you guys talk about "the end of the alien franchise", and i'm starting to think,... dude, wait,.. "the end to the alien franchise" ?! really... like, what did I just hear coming out from two movie experts.. Prometheus came out in 2012, you can not possibly missed that one... that's and Alien film origin story, even if the title isn't "Alien", and then the later half of the year 2017 (since i see this video is from the spring of 2017,.. and by then Alien Covenant had already been announced) With that said, and to not sound like prick or anything, but you clearly missed or used the wrong words my alien friends. Maybe the end of the Ellen Ripley saga, but the franchise did have two new installments filmed by the time this review was made. Two movies!!! that's like five hours of complete Alien lore. So hearing words like (end) regarding Alien, also coming out of two movie guys,.. that's more weird than the newborn creature it self. Maybe you look at it all from the public's view stand point, and thinking how we might have thought about it in the year of 1997 or 1998, whenever exactly Resurrection came out. But it's nothing I heard you mentioned.
Reading the book was great
The cinematography is shite
Terrible film. Poor script, poor story, terrible casting and acting. Still better than Prometheus and Covenant though.
ALIEN
RESURRECTION
is my favorite
ALIEN movie
Hated it.
Can I explaining about cloning when you make a replica of your own DNA it’s not really you it’s actually a clone that makes actually acts like you sound like you but is it really you it’s a rip off of you😅
The characters in this film are appalling.
At least this can't be the worst alien film anymore lol
thats not a good thing!
Still has more heart than Prometheus and covenant.
You got that right
Alien resurrection is not a terrible movie
NO! This IS the worst Alien movie ever. Alien Covenant should be giving a Oscar compared to this pile of shit.
Requiem was better than this.
This movie will always have a fond place in my heart. Not because of the movie, but because of the memory.
I first watched this movie up in my bedroom. It was a winters night, i was huddled in my blanket, had my little selection box and on my little box tv beside my orange glow of my lava lamp was Aliens Resurrection.
Film always takes me back to that menory. So i will always hold a fond place for Alien Resurrection in my heart 😍😍
Scott
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This film gets so much hate - but face it, it's a guilty pleasure.
Adam Poll that's Alien 3 for me. This movie was utter shit. Alien 3 got a lot of hate but I can't help but like it.
both 3 and resurrection are flawed yet still enjoyable movies. I still prefer 3 over this one, but mostly because I liked the sets and atmosphere more.
Lon Tanner alien 3 is actually good though once you get over the fact that they kill off newt and hicks. the directors cut helps as well
Requiem was a guilty pleasure.
This is a pease of rotton shit.
Not a guilty pleasure for me. I love the movie, not just as much as Alien and Aliens.
The newborn freaked me out
I couldn't take my eyes off it .
It was the set pieces that saved this film . the story was a joke
but it was relentless.
I always assumed that the reason the alien Queen is already pregnant is because Ripley was at the earliest stages of pregnancy from Charles Dance's character in Alien 3? But I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere?
Also the newborn is the most disturbing thing and I love the horror of its design, it really did save the movie. Its death is so memorable.
Thanks for saying that
Fertilization and implantation takes a lot longer than Ripley was on Fury 161 for, so pretty sure Ripley wasn’t pregnant at the time and day of her death.
@@AnekoFoxx It takes a mere 30 hours for cells to start dividing.
@@AnekoFoxx it doesn't matter if she were pregnant or not anyway because cloning does NOT work like this 😂. If you clone a person with a gaping wound, the clone doesn't inherit a gaping wound. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
This film is very dark and disturbing, even more so than Alien 3, and the score doesn't help much, it actually keeps you in a state of despair, it's almost nauseating?
"Oh my god, that poor deformed clone of myself, i must end their pain."
>Burns Clone 7 Ripley alive, one of the single most painful ways to kill someone...
I always wondered why Call didn't give Ripley a normal gun. They had plenty. Little bitch.
I remember being unsettled by that when I saw this movie in the cinema.
Well i too was pretty unsettled by that scene and many other such scenes in other movies ...and after thinking about it ..i came up with one sort of excuse ... being that due to the heat and fuel ..you would burn your lungs immediately...and would choke right away ..and the stress of extreme heat no air would give you a boost of dopamine endorfines cortisol etc and that combined with shock... it wouldnt be a long lasting concious experiance ... extreme can feel as if you freezing because the data is too much for your overloaded nerves....i think ...im speculating
She mercy killed Dallas by burning him too
It's a surprisingly recurring thing throughout the Alien films, people getting burned alive. If you include the Dallas deleted scene it's happened in every film (excluding AvP)
I watched Alien, Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection for the first time in 2019 as a 31 year old. I have never really been into Sci-Fi to be honest, but I have the blu-ray box-set and figured I should at least watch Alien. I became an instant fan of the Alien films right from the get go. I was simply blown away by the first one, and I haven't had that reaction to a movie since early teens, not that strong at least. I usually have a problem with sequels, in that I don't like them in general and that probably hurt the second one for me. I did love Newt though, and constantly thought throughout the film "Newt is cute". But I didn't have the same feeling I usually have after watching a sequel, I didn't hate it, but I didn't love it either. It was for certain above average, but in the end it was too action packed for my taste, it simply felt like an action film. I had some apprehensions towards Alien 3 because I knew some about the problems in production and that. But after watching half of the Off The Shelf Reviews' video on it, I had to pause it and watch the 3rd one and I wasn't disappointed, I really liked that film and it had a perfect ending (theatrical). It was with this ending, the perfect ending to the trilogy I was more than hesitant of watching the 4th film in the series and although I don't really regret seeing it, I kinda wished I hadn't. For me it is a trilogy and that's the way I am going to re-watch them as. I was adamant that if OTSR praised the "special edition" to high heaven I might re-watch Resurrection, but after this review it won't be seen again by me at least.
Sci Fi to checkout if you haven't already.
Innerspace, the fly, short circuit, 9, oblivion, arrival, and certainly not last the Congress with Robin Wright.
I read that alien 5 was going to suggest that Ripley dreams alien 3 and 4. And she goes to the alien home planet for the final fight
@WinnieTheGrizzly that alien planet part of what you said can be a nice defense on why it's better that david made the aliens
Aliens roar in this like a Tyrannosaurus?
This was so f*cking terrible and I loved it, a total guilty pleasure- it also gave us one of the best alien game tie-ins on the PlayStation.
For me the death of the baby hybrid was honestly a heart retching moment. I dunno exactly why but it really impacted me. If you notice cloned Ripley looks at it and actually tears up and I think a tear comes down. I dunno, just... that scene really left a lasting image on me.
It was a traumatizing movie moment for me as a child- seeing this creature cry out, thrashing violently as it’s horrifically torn apart piecemeal, while Ripley 8 watches on teary eyed...I got more of a emotional response from this creature’s death than Hicks and Newt’s sudden deaths in 3.
I had the same reaction. It was the eyes for me. The eyes and the noise.
I'm sorry but I LOVE this movie, it's different from all the other Alien movies, but it's a great movie in it's own right. ALL THE CAST WERE BRILLIANT! Character development was BRILLIANT! And notice how it's better then Covenant, and Prometheus , and it has nothing to do with the budget(actually much smaller), or Sigourney, they had Noomi and couldn't make a proper film. No story telling, no character development, just a bunch of mumbo jubo and a lot of expensive visuals that lead nowhere.
This movie is way better than Prometheus and alien covenant
Regarding Pervis's chestburster scene, they got one thing right in my opinion, the fact he began to bleed from the mouth, if your insides are being shredded, especially from the chest cavity that should happen. I hate this film but elements of it are great.
Watching this review is the closest I've gotten to watching this movie a second time since I saw it in the theater 20 years ago. I've owned it twice as part of two different box sets (dvd and blu-ray) and both copies probably still have the plastic on them. What epic garbage.
That being said, the under water scene was great.
No mention of the Captain playing follow the gun? The guy is carrying three or four guns already and he's just like yeah, more guns, let's keep walking. Good thing he didn't make it to the underwater scene, else he would have drowned from the weight of all the guns
This is a comic book with comic book characters. Watched with that in mind, I enjoy this film.
... The writer either should have halved-- or *doubled* whatever drugs he was on while writing this bore-a-thon. As for the director, he phoned it into the AD's voicemail. Sigourney Weaver just went into "autopilot performance" mode early on so as to preserve some shred of professionality, undercranked camera SFX rollercoastering in dim lighting, and then that "Newborn" that got simultaneous groans-- and bursts of outright laughter from the audience, inasmuch it really *did* resemble Michael Jackson after a particularly tough night-- and then, that twitchy runny-bunny nose.
Should have folded during the second week's rushes.
Thomas Cervasio LMAO
The thing about Alein Resurrection is just don't. I stop at Alein 3 myself. This shit don't even exist as far as I'm concerned.
Alien (1979) ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Aliens (1986) ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Alien vs. Predator (2004) ⭐⭐⭐
Alien3 (1992) ⭐⭐⭐
Alien Resurrection (1997) ⭐⭐⭐
Prometheus (2012) ⭐⭐
Alien vs. Predator: Requiem (2007) ⭐⭐
Alien: Covenant (2017) 0/5 stars [I haven't even bothered to see it.]
Just commenting to support........................................................................don´t forget watching and reviewing Utopia. (Sorry have to keep taunting.)
I have to disagree with Gary, I love this film. I like all the characters, they all have their own quirks and you understand who they are within 5 minutes of them getting into the ship
Ripley's story arc ended in Alien 3. Bringing back Ripley as a clone was just one of many terrible ideas in this movie.
for me it ended in Aliens ...
Canonically? Aliens.
I don't think anyone agreed with what they did to all those characters at the intro of Alien 3
My problem with Resurrection is genre confusion. It somehow took one of the greatest horror/action movies of the last century and turned it into a mediocre self-referential, dark comedy, something that say, Scream caught the zeitgeist of but this feels like a horrible, confused mess. (Less of a confused mess than Alien 3 arguably - but that movie for all its faults knew which genre it belonged in!)
For example when the general pulls out a piece of his own brain and looks at it cross-eyed. What was going on there?
Ripley destroying her aborted clones (a call back to her destroying the queen's eggs in Aliens) wasting essentially valuable ammo - only for Ron Pearlman to lean into frame "must be a chick thing!" - that's when I realised what was bugging me about the film who was that joke aimed at?
The swimming Aliens were cool tho'.
Resurrection is where the franchise jumped the shark for me. Nothing since has captured what made the first two films so special.