Fun fact: Mikami was so dedicated to ensuring RE4 remained a GC exclusive, that he said that if it EVER got ported to another platform, he would cut off his head. And that's why in Mikami's next game, God Hand, in a dog racing mini game, there's a dog you can bet in named "Mikami's Head".
I've only played the PS2 version, since here in Latin America everybody had a moded PS2 to play pirated games and RE4 was among the most popular title. However, I used to collect Nintendo-focused magazines so most of the strategy guides I used were for the GCN version I've never played the Wii or HD versions. Are those based on the GCN version or the PS2 port? I never knew the PS2 had so many downgrades
@@pablocasas5906 The rereleases are based on the GameCube original, but include the added content from the PS2 port alongside tweaks you'd expect from next gen ports. Cutscenes from the original game are in real time like on GameCube, while scenes from the PS2 bonus content remain prerendered. Pretty much any version of RE4 is fine, though the Wii port is popular for its pointer controls, and the PC port has mods to fix its issues.
Resi 4 may have a troubled development, but because of that and Mikami's being generously open minded, this game unintentionally gave birth to DMC and Haunting Ground both pretty much top notch bangers.
And both games were actually good in their own way too! Never played dmc myself but its always looked fun, same goes for haunting grounds as well, really hope we get to see a remaster of it some day ^^
People gotta know that subjective and objective quality are different but valid things. Granted we saw how RE6 turned out but they appropriately recognized "this doesn't fit here, and it's not bad" and gave it it's own place, which is flexible and dope. I suspect that as modern companies rigidly min max a small number of trusted IP's it gets harder to make full use of all the potential they're offered and keep something going well in one direction without changing it too much for people's trust
It’s always uplifting to see a Capcom game on this show, that didn’t end in financial disaster, receive lukewarm reviews or got canned, but still went through its own tumultuous gauntlet of development
Yep you get a few projects like that, that go through quite a journey of twists and turns to actually get made and be successful, Doom 2016 is the first I think about since it had a lengthy development and is the 4th game in the franchise, it began development right after Doom 3 wrapped up, which was a 2003 game so yeah.
I’m pretty sure Mega Man 2 was made in the teams personal time because Capcom were unimpressed by the sales of the first, which is kind of crazy considering the huge popularity of the series as a whole
Hopefully if they make a RE5 remake, it'll have gore. The original game only has one death scene where your body is torn apart and it's the "Duvalia" eating you when you're in dying mode, which is already rare enough.
The road to RE4 "Oops, we made a new amazing franchise with Devil May Cry". Try again "Oops, we made the one of the best games of all time, and changed the way the series would go from now on." Decades later, let's remake it. OMG we did it again!
I do feel that they are actually improving the story, it is a bit less campy then the original but they add so much context to the events, the gigante being put to sleep by an incantation because hes causing the village to starve, the story with the grandpa and the grandson being much more fleshed out, putting more light on how horrible what the plaga did to the village is by showing how the village chief was a kind and good man who only wanted to listen to and improve the lives of the villagers.
Thank you for doing actual proper research, especially for getting the origin story of RE3 right. So many people just pass around the rumour that Code Veronica was the original RE3 and it drives me up a wall. You got it absolutely spot on, the original RE3 ended up being scrapped and the development moved to the next get PS2. And since Capcom needed a sequel sooner on a PS1 they promoted the Last Escape/Nemesis to the next numbered entry. CV is not part of this story at all.
I think where Code Veronica comes in is that, between CV and Nemesis, Code Veronica was more in line with what a sequel to Resident Evil 2 would look like. They get conflated because Nemesis got given the numbered distinction when it would've made more sense for CV to be "Resident Evil 3", even if it was never under formal consideration to be so.
Very true. To be honest I'm hoping we get a RE 5 and Code: Veronica remake as well. They're both my ultimate favorites. I'm dying to punch a boulder in 4k/8k 😆 🤣 😂.
@@ShadowEl It's also known that some of CV's team referred to it internally as a true RE3. This might be because of Mikami and Kamiya's strained relationship at the time. Mikami had next-to-no involvement in Kamiya's RE3, but was very involved in CV. In a way, they were competing RE3 projects. Ironically, neither got that chance because the "side game" underdog came through and won the title. Real cinderella story, props Nemmy! "STARRRS" Stars indeed.
As much as I love the RE4 we got, I really like the Hookman/hallucination world concepts and would love for them to revisit that for a future game/spinoff, whether it feature Leon or a different/new character.
I know it's a crazy idea that wouldn't fit Resident Evil at all, but I'd like for a character based upon the Hookman to appear in a mainline entry where the threat turns out to be a dangerous supernatural force. If they are to put that into a game, it should come off as a plot twist in the final act. Adding on, any supernatural enemy should retain a body horror aesthetic.
Honestly, the idea of spooky place with hallucinations was done with Dead Space which was a neat coincidence. Which gets even more depressing because the Original idea of Dead Space 3 was suppose to have a Hookman like enemy but EA wanted to game to become more action focus…
@@ARSD219 The reveal that the monsters in 1 were all Umbrella's experiments was supposed to be a twist. Going in blind when the game came out, you wouldn't know that the zombies and stuff weren't magical or demonic creatures.
I feel like the development hell of RE4 turning into DMC is the most well known game development story of all. But always down to watch a Matty video on my favorite games.
Not everyone is a hard-core geek like you. No but seriously, guarantee you most people actually haven't got the slightest clue about it. Most "gamers" are just casuals and really the only people that know about that kind of stuff is us the nerds who actually are passionate and enthusiasm about all things video games. I just don't like statements like yours because they're just simply not true. It may be true in *this* comment section bit that's only because we are old enough to have played the original re4 and clearly still care enough about it that we are here today watching this video about it.
I've been a RE fan for pretty much my whole life thanks to my dad, I still remember the day we went to buy and play the OG RE4 on our PS2, he was absolutely blown away about pretty much everything and it became one of his favorite games of all time, for the longest time it has also been one of mine and now playing the remake it's amazing to see that the love for this game hasn't decayed one single bit, I even sent my dad some gameplay to hype him up too! Thanks Matt, amazing video as always
@@Twilight17Petkotonthe wii version of the OG resident evil 4 is the best version out of the game between the ps2 and GameCube version, because it has the GameCube’s superior graphics and sound but also has the ps2 version’s extra content. Not to mention the Wii’s control for aiming is MUCH better
While this is most likely a coincidence, I find it interesting that elements of the “Hallucination” build of “RE4” are very similar to “Resident Evil: Village”. It’s always interesting to me when game devs pick up on older ideas that didn’t work at the time and finally get to apply them in a game where it really shines. And that Kawamura’s desire for a genuinely scary “Biohazard”/“Resident Evil” game eventually came to fruition with 7 & 8.
Are you planning to do an episode on Five Nights at Freddy's: Security Breach? The initial released version in December 2021 was an absolute disaster (though it definitely got overshadowed by GTA Definitive), and the game continues to be broken and divisive in a lot of ways...
@@leeartlee915 security breach is actually a real 3D horror game where you explore the map and such, compared to other entries where you had to just check locations at specific time
For anyone who’s a fan of Resident Evil i really recommend the Itchy Tasty Book mentioned early in the video. It’s an incredible look into the development process of multiple of the franchises games
I remember buying 4 at launch in 2005 on GameCube and my launch copy of the remake arrived on Friday. Such an amazing game. Glad they took they're time and delivered the best experience possible
Had no idea the PS2 version was a downgrade from the original I just remember buying the game in 2010 for my PS2, and having a great time with it. Despite the downgrades, it is still one of my all time favorites
RE4 may be the only time in game dev history where the troubled development and constant changes ended up with giving us the good ending. Sure would have been nice to see the other versions as well but not only did we get spin off series from the ideas, but RE4 is a stone cold classic that revolutioned gaming. It's so polished that you'd never know all the troubles it went through from just playing it. You'd think it was planned to be this way from the beginning. The situation forced accidental genius I guess. It explains how much they fumbled trying to recreate it with RE5 and RE6, when they went into it with the intent on the style from the beginning.
Absolutely legendary game. Easily one of the GOATs. I was one of those naysayers when it first came out. It took the game about 15 minutes to change my mind.
its a legendary action game, but a bad horror game imo, it also paved the way for the destruction of resi evil, hell the remakes are actually closer to the original resi evils than 4 XD difference is the camera angle of 4, now resi evil is going back to its roots that re4 burned and that god for that. still love this game to death though.
It seems like the original idea for RE4 came back with the new storyline that kicked off with Village. Ancient virus from underground in Europe that ties to Spencer
I bought this game for GameCube on release day: the GameStop exclusive LE. I didn't even own a GameCube then? I got the GCN about 5 months later and I couldn't put it down, playing it from beginning to end in about 2 days. Amazing game! I just got the Remake and I think that it's a better game than the Dead Space Remake. Both are good, but I feel the RE4 Remake builds on the greatness of RE4. The Dead Space Remake, while gorgeous and playing great, just seems feels like a replacement for the original instead of its own thing.
As RE being my favorite franchise, and RE4 being the game I have probably sunk the most hours into, I did not know so much of the narrative behind the game. Great video!
18:24 Kinda funny how they were taking inspiration from SH considering how they took a massive dive and RE is currently one of the best series at the moment.
Well, at the time of the Hallucination build Konami would've just released or was about to release SH3 and so the series was about at its peak, so not really that silly when you remember how the timelines line up.
I love the tale of RE4. Supposedly a Gamecube exclusive. But it accidentally after several messy development cycles became casually the best thing ever. And has since been ported to just about everything, even 15+ years after its release it got a VR version. Can you imagine this happening today? A game that was just thrown together because the people involved just threw their hands and said fuck it? Oh.. the games we could play.
@@flamingmanure Show me one modern title that is as smart and original as RE4 was and to a degree still is. I would agree with you on many other titles, but RE4 is special. Even its remake was just a kinda better but worse version of it.
@@MizukiTheUnderPro resident evil 7, legend of Zelda breath of the wild,Metroid dread, elden ring, god of war ragnorock, monster hunter world, dragon ball fighterZ and many more.
That's so interesting. I've never played DMC, and haven't been an avid player of the Resident Evil games. So I had absolutely no clue that the two had this relation. Very interesting.
It's crazy to think that the development of one game led to the creation of 2 awesome studios (clover and after platinum games) the creation of one of the most important character action series and at the same time the game being developed being one of the most influential and important games of all time
I used to play the demo at the eb games in our mall for hours on end. I have nothing but fond memories of the original, and the remake captures that nostalgia so perfectly it’s truly impressive. Thanks for chronicling the history like this Matt, awesome video!
I really hope after this Capcom puts their modern IPs on the backburner for as while. Give your legacy IPs some love for Peet’s sake. As much as RE has been as good as it can be(although 4 remake removes a lot of that cheese that made the original so fun, but Capcom) I think diversity is very much needed.
Aside from collections, Capcom absolutely should spread the love a bit more, I agree. But you might want to play/watch more RE4 remake. Practically everything Leon says is a cheesy action one-liner during gameplay.
@@MattMcMuscles Oh that’s not to say the game has its own kind of cheese, it does. I’ve watched the playthrough and it made some improvements, including Leon and Ashley’s dynamic. I just feel…they exchanged some of the old elements to intensify the seriousness angle. I feel like part of RE4’s charm is that it was serious…but also knows it ‘shoots the barrel’ if you know what I mean. Like the giant robot, movie laser scene, IT and even Leon’s lines. Part that charm is like they know its ridiculous, but played sincerely. Not to take away everything that the game has done, and I’m happy it did well. It’s just, RE4 is one of those games to where a simple remaster would’ve been more than enough like Metroid Prime.
The remake seems like it cranked the cheese up more. Before, Leon never said anything like "bill me for the repairs later" whilst being chased by a mob of violent villagers.
@@Beforezzz That’s also true. What I meant to say was with cut content that made the OG RE4 so memorable to the fanbase, despite the improvements that the remake added. Was a remake of RE4 necessary? I personally felt like a remaster in the form of what Metroid Prime recently done would be more than enough, without taking away anything. But that’s my opinion.
I want to thank that guy that some call him Johnny for doing the video that sold me on RE 4 Original. While not my first RE game, RE 4 was a fun ride. It was how Johnny described it: a Hollywood action movie. And you know what, my favorite parts of the dialogue were the ballistics joke and the script. First class, I might add. And yes, I have it on the Switch. Though I can't get to the remake right away, I am beyond excited for it. Also, Ada is cool (as in, incredibly cool)
Great video, Matt. The development history of this game is certainly fascinating. One of those few tales of development hell when the end product turned out great. It spawning another great franchise in Devil May Cry in the process is just the cherry on top.
McMuscles, have you done a "What Happun?!" episode on Code: Veronica? I'd like to see CAPCOM remake CV if they keep making revivals as good as the RE 4: Remake. :)
It's crazy the development cycle this game had lol. Not only did it go through development hell and back and came out alive and successful ratings wise , it helped practically give Capcom 2 other new IPs to their list, one of them especially becoming very popular aka Devil May Cry. It's insane on what happens behind the scenes in the game dev world sometimes. Never get tired of these what happened stories
Great video! I still have my GCN copy. I remember when I played the PS2 versión the downgrade was so obvious that not even the separate ways campaign save my interest and went back to the GCN. Even with the remake now released, I still believe that GCN original RE4 stills holds up quite well.
It's always funny looking back at people calling RE2 "the gaming event of 1998," because 1998 was such a great year for video games. RE2 was released in January, but the end of the year would also see Metal Gear Solid and Ocarina of Time, as well as Pokemon finally being released in the west. So yeah, RE2 was great, but was ultimately a drop in the bucket in one of the greatest years for gaming.
I played RE4 in VR on the Oculus last year and I honestly had a great time. Playing again on PC and although it's great, you can't hold a candle to how it felt playing this on the Gamecube after classes were over in high school.
This game is hilarious, but i'm gonna make it more funny for all of you. First of all, in spanish a lot of words have diferent meaning it depends of the country you are speaking in, knowing this, when the "ganados" say "cogedlo, cogedlo" in Spain means "grab him!" But if you are from south america, it means "fuck him!". Truly a masterpiece
re4 will always be one of my favorite games when growing up. TY Matt, this was a great insight video as I remember feeling betrayed when it was announced for PS2🥺 this video in special hits hard for me because I was a GameCube kid and missed a lot of games since we simply never got them in the console.
Hey Matt I’ve been watching since 2011. Just wanted to let you know as a schizophrenic, your videos help me sleep. I really appreciate all your effort. Thank you for all the years.
Love these RE What Happened vids. I'm now curious if Capcom had trouble with RE5 in comparison to 4 and 6. Probably not, but it would be an interesting topic if there was.
@@garuelx8627 It wasnt about them shooting people where the majority was Black. It was about misrepresentation of the culture in said area. Sheilds and spears in the 21st century? They would have AK'ed your ass to death
@@garuelx8627 well the complaints were completely justified at the time. Playing as some white dude from the US who flies out to Africa and massacres everyone is really fuckin sus, they added Sheva as a playable character in direct response to the controversy Also, dude, don’t be the weird guy who gets extremely mad at every slight suggestion that something might be politically incorrect, it just makes you sound like an actual racist grandpa
I find fascinating when during developement of a sequel you find ideas for new games Imagine how many games are still conceptualized but haven't go further due to studio's executives that find the idea of new games not profitable (something that always was the case in any industry at almost every era you can imagine)
I actually picked up the original to try it out before the remake and needless to say it was amazing. There was a bit of a learning curve as I was playing on the Gamecube so I wasn't fully used to the controller. However I enjoyed it and currently playing the remake. I may have my critics on the original but I loved it and glad its apart of my Resident Evil Collection
@@ralphengland8559 the Wii version is the best in controls, to the point it makes me wish there was a special Wii difficulty where they take advantage of your better aiming capabilities.
I don't know if there's enough information, but you should do a what happened on resident evil revelations. That reveal trailer had HUNK, Chris and Jill pointing guns at each other, A mystery guy in a chair, and what looks like the Spencer mansion steps getting flooded. Not even remotely close to the game they actually put out.
Honestly I prefer the OG RE4 to the remake it just feels better sure the graphics aren't amazibg and new Ashley is 1) much easier on the eyes and 2) WAY less grating. There just felt like there was more in the OG
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Very interesting to learn that Clover Studio was effectively an apology to Mikami for all this. So then Okami owes it's existence somewhat to RE4? Never knew!
Not exclusively for that reason. Mikami, Kamiya and others felt since they had created so many high profile games for Capcom, they should have more freedom to make the games they wanted.
Re4 was my MOST replayed game of the series for me. Scared my as a little kid I wanted this for the OG resident evils 1-3 to be like RE 4 (2005) and the spin offs too
Mikami is one of the best directors in the gaming industry since the start of all this. The man not only guide his team to create what we know today as Survival Horror, but he reinvented and, I may say, perfected it with the RE1 Remake and then, again, gave RE new life with RE4. The man is like a fucking machine, so much talent and good eye to create and lead projects. Note: not even mentioning all the projects beside the RE brand such as The Evil Within, Dino Crisis and the really underrated God Hand and Vanquish
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You didnt mention anything about code veronica. I find that weird
Matt you forgot about the Dog the dog came back too
@@Tinbeef22 Why is Code Veronica particularly relevant to an RE4 video? And regardless, I mentioned it twice in this video.
"We never programmed the merchant, he just showed up in the game one day." - Shinji Mikami
I like to think this is true
Rolling through the comments while watching, I'm low key hoping this is actually a quote
I don't think i could ask the merchant to leave if he showed up to my house to trade uninvited
LoL
'Whadda buyin'?'
Fun fact: Mikami was so dedicated to ensuring RE4 remained a GC exclusive, that he said that if it EVER got ported to another platform, he would cut off his head.
And that's why in Mikami's next game, God Hand, in a dog racing mini game, there's a dog you can bet in named "Mikami's Head".
speaking of games that need rereleasing, I really want Capcom to rerelease God Hand and the Viewtiful Joe series.
@@jeremyabbott4537and onimusha (with original ost) marvel vs Capcom 1-2, sf third strike online, Maximo 1-2
I've only played the PS2 version, since here in Latin America everybody had a moded PS2 to play pirated games and RE4 was among the most popular title. However, I used to collect Nintendo-focused magazines so most of the strategy guides I used were for the GCN version
I've never played the Wii or HD versions. Are those based on the GCN version or the PS2 port? I never knew the PS2 had so many downgrades
@@pablocasas5906 The rereleases are based on the GameCube original, but include the added content from the PS2 port alongside tweaks you'd expect from next gen ports. Cutscenes from the original game are in real time like on GameCube, while scenes from the PS2 bonus content remain prerendered. Pretty much any version of RE4 is fine, though the Wii port is popular for its pointer controls, and the PC port has mods to fix its issues.
gc exclusives were a bad idea thats why re1 and re0 sales were lower than the ps1 games
“I’m going to walk into this foreign man’s house and ruin his whole day”
Spoken like a true gamer
Resi 4 may have a troubled development, but because of that and Mikami's being generously open minded, this game unintentionally gave birth to DMC and Haunting Ground both pretty much top notch bangers.
its funny to think that even the throw away ideas from making re4 are worth making great games out of.
@@chrismanuel9768 Bayonetta?
I still need to play haunting ground! 😅
@@sashen6678 While starting from the same place, Bayonetta branches more into a different direction imo
@amarol idris what youtube video did you get that from?
It's crazy that this spawned not 1 but 2 completely different games, countless other builds scrapped AND it came out so well.
And both games were actually good in their own way too!
Never played dmc myself but its always looked fun, same goes for haunting grounds as well, really hope we get to see a remaster of it some day ^^
I count 3. That superpowered hand sure as hell went somewhere too, even if Matt didn't explicitly mention it.
@@lunaitc What game are you referring to?
@@thekinghasnoname4858 Probably God Hand
Even Onimusha came from re4’s development
Shinji Mikami is the embodiment of if you want something done right you have to do it yourself. I'm thankful they kept the idea for DMC.
People gotta know that subjective and objective quality are different but valid things. Granted we saw how RE6 turned out but they appropriately recognized "this doesn't fit here, and it's not bad" and gave it it's own place, which is flexible and dope. I suspect that as modern companies rigidly min max a small number of trusted IP's it gets harder to make full use of all the potential they're offered and keep something going well in one direction without changing it too much for people's trust
It’s always uplifting to see a Capcom game on this show, that didn’t end in financial disaster, receive lukewarm reviews or got canned, but still went through its own tumultuous gauntlet of development
Yep you get a few projects like that, that go through quite a journey of twists and turns to actually get made and be successful, Doom 2016 is the first I think about since it had a lengthy development and is the 4th game in the franchise, it began development right after Doom 3 wrapped up, which was a 2003 game so yeah.
I’m pretty sure Mega Man 2 was made in the teams personal time because Capcom were unimpressed by the sales of the first, which is kind of crazy considering the huge popularity of the series as a whole
@@bandannadoo I love Mega Man but it’s not as popular as it would seem sales wise, it’s weird?
They really try to be creative
I love how people complained there wasn’t enough decapitation on the demo, now the game came out and damn near *EVERYTHING* takes Leon’s head off…
Which makes re3 re decision to censor the gore even more upsetting
Hopefully if they make a RE5 remake, it'll have gore. The original game only has one death scene where your body is torn apart and it's the "Duvalia" eating you when you're in dying mode, which is already rare enough.
The road to RE4
"Oops, we made a new amazing franchise with Devil May Cry".
Try again
"Oops, we made the one of the best games of all time, and changed the way the series would go from now on."
Decades later, let's remake it.
OMG we did it again!
Haunting ground slander.
I do feel that they are actually improving the story, it is a bit less campy then the original but they add so much context to the events, the gigante being put to sleep by an incantation because hes causing the village to starve, the story with the grandpa and the grandson being much more fleshed out, putting more light on how horrible what the plaga did to the village is by showing how the village chief was a kind and good man who only wanted to listen to and improve the lives of the villagers.
Thank you for doing actual proper research, especially for getting the origin story of RE3 right. So many people just pass around the rumour that Code Veronica was the original RE3 and it drives me up a wall. You got it absolutely spot on, the original RE3 ended up being scrapped and the development moved to the next get PS2. And since Capcom needed a sequel sooner on a PS1 they promoted the Last Escape/Nemesis to the next numbered entry. CV is not part of this story at all.
I think where Code Veronica comes in is that, between CV and Nemesis, Code Veronica was more in line with what a sequel to Resident Evil 2 would look like. They get conflated because Nemesis got given the numbered distinction when it would've made more sense for CV to be "Resident Evil 3", even if it was never under formal consideration to be so.
Very true. To be honest I'm hoping we get a RE 5 and Code: Veronica remake as well. They're both my ultimate favorites. I'm dying to punch a boulder in 4k/8k 😆 🤣 😂.
@@billzjr222we need 4k Chris re5 muscles
@@ShadowEl It's also known that some of CV's team referred to it internally as a true RE3. This might be because of Mikami and Kamiya's strained relationship at the time. Mikami had next-to-no involvement in Kamiya's RE3, but was very involved in CV. In a way, they were competing RE3 projects. Ironically, neither got that chance because the "side game" underdog came through and won the title. Real cinderella story, props Nemmy!
"STARRRS"
Stars indeed.
@BL00DYME55 A lot of it is just from the "everything after Nemesis and/or Code Veronica shouldn't have happened" crowd.
As much as I love the RE4 we got, I really like the Hookman/hallucination world concepts and would love for them to revisit that for a future game/spinoff, whether it feature Leon or a different/new character.
I know it's a crazy idea that wouldn't fit Resident Evil at all, but I'd like for a character based upon the Hookman to appear in a mainline entry where the threat turns out to be a dangerous supernatural force.
If they are to put that into a game, it should come off as a plot twist in the final act. Adding on, any supernatural enemy should retain a body horror aesthetic.
Honestly, the idea of spooky place with hallucinations was done with Dead Space which was a neat coincidence.
Which gets even more depressing because the Original idea of Dead Space 3 was suppose to have a Hookman like enemy but EA wanted to game to become more action focus…
Hookman is gonna be Chris. He's had enough of Leon running away from his duties of continuing the Redfield bloodline.
... That's fucking RE8 + DLC...
@@ARSD219 The reveal that the monsters in 1 were all Umbrella's experiments was supposed to be a twist. Going in blind when the game came out, you wouldn't know that the zombies and stuff weren't magical or demonic creatures.
I feel like the development hell of RE4 turning into DMC is the most well known game development story of all. But always down to watch a Matty video on my favorite games.
Awesome purely awesome DMC is a franchise that can be distilled into pure Badass awesome development it’s the definition of Badass franchise
Not everyone is a hard-core geek like you. No but seriously, guarantee you most people actually haven't got the slightest clue about it. Most "gamers" are just casuals and really the only people that know about that kind of stuff is us the nerds who actually are passionate and enthusiasm about all things video games. I just don't like statements like yours because they're just simply not true. It may be true in *this* comment section bit that's only because we are old enough to have played the original re4 and clearly still care enough about it that we are here today watching this video about it.
I seriously thought this was a joke the first time I heard about that a couple of days ago. I-I guess its absolutely true!
It gave birth to an entirely new genre with the character action game genre essentially. There was nothing else like it before that time.
DMC and possibly God Hand
Mikami must be a Hydra with all the heads he had to cut off.
Wouldn’t that make him Heracles though?
@@bigbossultimate he's cutting his own heads.
I've been a RE fan for pretty much my whole life thanks to my dad, I still remember the day we went to buy and play the OG RE4 on our PS2, he was absolutely blown away about pretty much everything and it became one of his favorite games of all time, for the longest time it has also been one of mine and now playing the remake it's amazing to see that the love for this game hasn't decayed one single bit, I even sent my dad some gameplay to hype him up too! Thanks Matt, amazing video as always
Yeah, I ok with GameCube and Wii version of Resident Evil 4 having good graphics.
@@Twilight17Petkotonthe wii version of the OG resident evil 4 is the best version out of the game between the ps2 and GameCube version, because it has the GameCube’s superior graphics and sound but also has the ps2 version’s extra content. Not to mention the Wii’s control for aiming is MUCH better
While this is most likely a coincidence, I find it interesting that elements of the “Hallucination” build of “RE4” are very similar to “Resident Evil: Village”. It’s always interesting to me when game devs pick up on older ideas that didn’t work at the time and finally get to apply them in a game where it really shines. And that Kawamura’s desire for a genuinely scary “Biohazard”/“Resident Evil” game eventually came to fruition with 7 & 8.
Are you planning to do an episode on Five Nights at Freddy's: Security Breach? The initial released version in December 2021 was an absolute disaster (though it definitely got overshadowed by GTA Definitive), and the game continues to be broken and divisive in a lot of ways...
FNAF should have ended a long time ago.
That'd be a good one but he should probably wait till the ruin dlc just so he can cover the full thing
@@leeartlee915 security breach is actually a real 3D horror game where you explore the map and such, compared to other entries where you had to just check locations at specific time
@@leeartlee915You can not be more wrong.
People don't take fnaf seriously anymore
For anyone who’s a fan of Resident Evil i really recommend the Itchy Tasty Book mentioned early in the video. It’s an incredible look into the development process of multiple of the franchises games
Shinji Mikami is a true legend of the video game industry. His "Vanquish" doesn't get enough love and attention.
True, to this day I think it's a real shame and a crime that we never had Vanquish 2
@@DISMOTRON Totally agree. Especially considering how the game ended...
@@NoNicknameRequired What are you talking about, Sam went on to become a Brazilian samurai in MGR, what better sequel can you ask for?
Vanquish was such a banger of a game. They just don't make em like that anymore.
And he's back at it again with Hi-Fi Rush
I remember buying 4 at launch in 2005 on GameCube and my launch copy of the remake arrived on Friday.
Such an amazing game. Glad they took they're time and delivered the best experience possible
Can Maddie do more art for Wha Happun?
I'm a big fan of her goofy comics
Had no idea the PS2 version was a downgrade from the original
I just remember buying the game in 2010 for my PS2, and having a great time with it. Despite the downgrades, it is still one of my all time favorites
An RE game that was so radically different in its early development that it came a brand new game entirely.
The replayability is outstanding, especially with the weapon upgrades.
the remake is even better
Hideki kamiya looks like a bro you'd chill with at a skate park back in the early 2000s lol
RE4 may be the only time in game dev history where the troubled development and constant changes ended up with giving us the good ending.
Sure would have been nice to see the other versions as well but not only did we get spin off series from the ideas, but RE4 is a stone cold classic that revolutioned gaming.
It's so polished that you'd never know all the troubles it went through from just playing it. You'd think it was planned to be this way from the beginning.
The situation forced accidental genius I guess. It explains how much they fumbled trying to recreate it with RE5 and RE6, when they went into it with the intent on the style from the beginning.
This is the episode of Wha Happun I've wanted the most since the series debuted, and it did not disappoint. Well done Matt!
Absolutely legendary game. Easily one of the GOATs. I was one of those naysayers when it first came out. It took the game about 15 minutes to change my mind.
its a legendary action game, but a bad horror game imo, it also paved the way for the destruction of resi evil, hell the remakes are actually closer to the original resi evils than 4 XD difference is the camera angle of 4, now resi evil is going back to its roots that re4 burned and that god for that. still love this game to death though.
It seems like the original idea for RE4 came back with the new storyline that kicked off with Village. Ancient virus from underground in Europe that ties to Spencer
Gabe Newell would be jealous of Mikami’s “when it’s done” mentality.
I didn't expect this at all. But I love the twist. Keep up the good work.
I bought this game for GameCube on release day: the GameStop exclusive LE. I didn't even own a GameCube then? I got the GCN about 5 months later and I couldn't put it down, playing it from beginning to end in about 2 days. Amazing game!
I just got the Remake and I think that it's a better game than the Dead Space Remake. Both are good, but I feel the RE4 Remake builds on the greatness of RE4. The Dead Space Remake, while gorgeous and playing great, just seems feels like a replacement for the original instead of its own thing.
I could just listen to Matt's superlative RE4 merchant impression all day and never grow tired of it! 😁
I feel like Mikami will be retiring but I hope he decides to develop his ideal true horror game for better or worse.
As RE being my favorite franchise, and RE4 being the game I have probably sunk the most hours into, I did not know so much of the narrative behind the game. Great video!
18:24 Kinda funny how they were taking inspiration from SH considering how they took a massive dive and RE is currently one of the best series at the moment.
Well, at the time of the Hallucination build Konami would've just released or was about to release SH3 and so the series was about at its peak, so not really that silly when you remember how the timelines line up.
I love the tale of RE4. Supposedly a Gamecube exclusive. But it accidentally after several messy development cycles became casually the best thing ever. And has since been ported to just about everything, even 15+ years after its release it got a VR version.
Can you imagine this happening today? A game that was just thrown together because the people involved just threw their hands and said fuck it? Oh.. the games we could play.
plenty of games today are just as good, if not better than re4. whats up with this fanbase and their delusional "back in my day" narrative lol?
@@flamingmanure Show me one modern title that is as smart and original as RE4 was and to a degree still is.
I would agree with you on many other titles, but RE4 is special. Even its remake was just a kinda better but worse version of it.
@@MizukiTheUnderPro resident evil 7, legend of Zelda breath of the wild,Metroid dread, elden ring, god of war ragnorock, monster hunter world, dragon ball fighterZ and many more.
Kamiya left working on Resident Evil 4 because it was too dark, and he wanted to fill our dark souls with LIIIIGHT!
Hit'em with the Bingo Roundhouse
"What Happened? -Resident Evil 4 HD Turbo Alpha 3.0 & Knuckles, featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series"
The concept of Devil May Cry spun from RE4? Imagine if this was actually happening? Virgil won't be motivated and we'll see Wesker do it instead.
To be fair, Mikami isn't wrong. The modern RE has interesting gameplay, but like the zombies, the series story is full of holes and nonsense
That's so interesting. I've never played DMC, and haven't been an avid player of the Resident Evil games. So I had absolutely no clue that the two had this relation. Very interesting.
It's crazy to think that the development of one game led to the creation of 2 awesome studios (clover and after platinum games) the creation of one of the most important character action series and at the same time the game being developed being one of the most influential and important games of all time
Damn, that hook man prototype actually looks really fucking cool. I hope at some point in the future we get to see what it could have turned out to be
I used to play the demo at the eb games in our mall for hours on end. I have nothing but fond memories of the original, and the remake captures that nostalgia so perfectly it’s truly impressive. Thanks for chronicling the history like this Matt, awesome video!
I really hope after this Capcom puts their modern IPs on the backburner for as while. Give your legacy IPs some love for Peet’s sake. As much as RE has been as good as it can be(although 4 remake removes a lot of that cheese that made the original so fun, but Capcom) I think diversity is very much needed.
Aside from collections, Capcom absolutely should spread the love a bit more, I agree. But you might want to play/watch more RE4 remake. Practically everything Leon says is a cheesy action one-liner during gameplay.
@@MattMcMuscles Oh that’s not to say the game has its own kind of cheese, it does. I’ve watched the playthrough and it made some improvements, including Leon and Ashley’s dynamic. I just feel…they exchanged some of the old elements to intensify the seriousness angle. I feel like part of RE4’s charm is that it was serious…but also knows it ‘shoots the barrel’ if you know what I mean. Like the giant robot, movie laser scene, IT and even Leon’s lines. Part that charm is like they know its ridiculous, but played sincerely.
Not to take away everything that the game has done, and I’m happy it did well. It’s just, RE4 is one of those games to where a simple remaster would’ve been more than enough like Metroid Prime.
The remake seems like it cranked the cheese up more. Before, Leon never said anything like "bill me for the repairs later" whilst being chased by a mob of violent villagers.
@@Beforezzz That’s also true. What I meant to say was with cut content that made the OG RE4 so memorable to the fanbase, despite the improvements that the remake added. Was a remake of RE4 necessary? I personally felt like a remaster in the form of what Metroid Prime recently done would be more than enough, without taking away anything. But that’s my opinion.
I want to thank that guy that some call him Johnny for doing the video that sold me on RE 4 Original. While not my first RE game, RE 4 was a fun ride. It was how Johnny described it: a Hollywood action movie. And you know what, my favorite parts of the dialogue were the ballistics joke and the script. First class, I might add. And yes, I have it on the Switch. Though I can't get to the remake right away, I am beyond excited for it. Also, Ada is cool (as in, incredibly cool)
ahhhh my boy johnny i been watching him for years and im sub great channel
Great video, Matt.
The development history of this game is certainly fascinating. One of those few tales of development hell when the end product turned out great.
It spawning another great franchise in Devil May Cry in the process is just the cherry on top.
McMuscles, have you done a "What Happun?!" episode on Code: Veronica?
I'd like to see CAPCOM remake CV if they keep making revivals as good as the RE 4: Remake. :)
Personally, graphics and framerate issues aside, Survivor walked so 7 could run and Village could fly.
Remember when this game was supposed to be a Game Cube exclusive? Yeah, now it is avaliable for every bloody machine that connects to a screen.
It's crazy the development cycle this game had lol. Not only did it go through development hell and back and came out alive and successful ratings wise , it helped practically give Capcom 2 other new IPs to their list, one of them especially becoming very popular aka Devil May Cry. It's insane on what happens behind the scenes in the game dev world sometimes. Never get tired of these what happened stories
15:51 "I have to go now, my planet needs me"
Awesome to see NervousNick helped edit this video. I feel like I haven't seen him since the old ScrewAttack days.
❤
@@Nervous_Nick Never did get to see your reaction to Banjo and Kazooie joining Smash.
10:43 bro the NOISE that bit got me. just the thought of mikami being all like "uh yeah WTF is this???"
Doom 3 seems like another curious case to cover
I did not expect DMC, that's a pretty wild turn of events.
Great video! I still have my GCN copy. I remember when I played the PS2 versión the downgrade was so obvious that not even the separate ways campaign save my interest and went back to the GCN. Even with the remake now released, I still believe that GCN original RE4 stills holds up quite well.
It's always funny looking back at people calling RE2 "the gaming event of 1998," because 1998 was such a great year for video games. RE2 was released in January, but the end of the year would also see Metal Gear Solid and Ocarina of Time, as well as Pokemon finally being released in the west. So yeah, RE2 was great, but was ultimately a drop in the bucket in one of the greatest years for gaming.
I played RE4 in VR on the Oculus last year and I honestly had a great time. Playing again on PC and although it's great, you can't hold a candle to how it felt playing this on the Gamecube after classes were over in high school.
17:17 this is one of the best things I’ve seen all month, sincerely thank you. You nailed the cheesy dialogue
This game is hilarious, but i'm gonna make it more funny for all of you. First of all, in spanish a lot of words have diferent meaning it depends of the country you are speaking in, knowing this, when the "ganados" say "cogedlo, cogedlo" in Spain means "grab him!" But if you are from south america, it means "fuck him!". Truly a masterpiece
They made one of the best games ever
Now they’ve made 2 of the best games ever.
@@TeXmEx26SoX Eh.
Sup Matthew, right on time for the RE hype train! Although it was a well documented story, it never gets old to listening again with a McTwist 👍🏼
re4 will always be one of my favorite games when growing up. TY Matt, this was a great insight video as I remember feeling betrayed when it was announced for PS2🥺 this video in special hits hard for me because I was a GameCube kid and missed a lot of games since we simply never got them in the console.
Hey Matt I’ve been watching since 2011. Just wanted to let you know as a schizophrenic, your videos help me sleep. I really appreciate all your effort. Thank you for all the years.
Knowing Devil may cry is really a Resident Evil spinoff is crazy! It explains a lot! That's extremely cool
You know at this point Matt may as well just do a video on EVERY single Capcom game!
Thanks
Oh man. I was so so happy to see Gaiden get a mention. I swear no one ever mentions it ever
Does anyone know why Winback: Covert Operations never gets any credit for third person laser point aiming?
Love these RE What Happened vids. I'm now curious if Capcom had trouble with RE5 in comparison to 4 and 6. Probably not, but it would be an interesting topic if there was.
I mainly remember some idiots bitching about it being racist for shooting people in a part of the world where they happen to be the majority...
@@garuelx8627 It wasnt about them shooting people where the majority was Black. It was about misrepresentation of the culture in said area. Sheilds and spears in the 21st century? They would have AK'ed your ass to death
@@garuelx8627 well the complaints were completely justified at the time. Playing as some white dude from the US who flies out to Africa and massacres everyone is really fuckin sus, they added Sheva as a playable character in direct response to the controversy
Also, dude, don’t be the weird guy who gets extremely mad at every slight suggestion that something might be politically incorrect, it just makes you sound like an actual racist grandpa
I find fascinating when during developement of a sequel you find ideas for new games
Imagine how many games are still conceptualized but haven't go further due to studio's executives that find the idea of new games not profitable (something that always was the case in any industry at almost every era you can imagine)
My favorite game of all time! I'm patiently waiting for my re4 remake collector's edition to be delivered.
I actually picked up the original to try it out before the remake and needless to say it was amazing. There was a bit of a learning curve as I was playing on the Gamecube so I wasn't fully used to the controller. However I enjoyed it and currently playing the remake. I may have my critics on the original but I loved it and glad its apart of my Resident Evil Collection
The controls are the part that aged the worst. I would have been happy with a re-release that overhauled the controls. But the remake seems ok so far.
@@ralphengland8559 the Wii version is the best in controls, to the point it makes me wish there was a special Wii difficulty where they take advantage of your better aiming capabilities.
What Happened?:
Nickelodeon All Star Brawl
Fear Effect
Leisure Suit Larry 4
I don't know if there's enough information, but you should do a what happened on resident evil revelations. That reveal trailer had HUNK, Chris and Jill pointing guns at each other, A mystery guy in a chair, and what looks like the Spencer mansion steps getting flooded. Not even remotely close to the game they actually put out.
I was waiting for Max to show up and say something
28:40 Oh snap! I thought I was the only one who noticed Gamecube looked like a lunch box and called it that.
They need to remake Devil May Cry 1 & 2. DMC is just as important to gaming as RE and it created an entire genre just like RE did.
Ain't surprised most criticism were for its controls, seeing it being ported on tons of platforms.
So I heard the lost in nightmares dlc for re 5 there was alpha footage this mansion would be explorer by re 4 Leon somehow but that was change.
Honestly I prefer the OG RE4 to the remake it just feels better sure the graphics aren't amazibg and new Ashley is 1) much easier on the eyes and 2) WAY less grating. There just felt like there was more in the OG
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Great video, I'd love to see you cover Valve's Steam Machines. How they came about and then disappeared.
/but if it wasnt for four we wouldnt have anything "Featuring Devil May Cry Dante"
i cant imagine a company allowing developers to start over this many times today, even if it means having a great game at the end of it
Very interesting to learn that Clover Studio was effectively an apology to Mikami for all this. So then Okami owes it's existence somewhat to RE4? Never knew!
Not exclusively for that reason. Mikami, Kamiya and others felt since they had created so many high profile games for Capcom, they should have more freedom to make the games they wanted.
Playing RE 4 remake watching this and my dad dead be like, damn, this life is crazy. Hard... but beautiful. Go get you a onewheel. Now.
Soooooooo was this the Cannon I needed to say that Leon and Dante are officially related? Because I want to 😭
26:28 I spit out my drink laughing 🤣
Me waiting for the video to mention that Devil May Cry was made from RE4
Perfect timing Mr. Matt.
Re4 was my MOST replayed game of the series for me. Scared my as a little kid
I wanted this for the OG resident evils 1-3 to be like RE 4 (2005) and the spin offs too
Mikami is one of the best directors in the gaming industry since the start of all this. The man not only guide his team to create what we know today as Survival Horror, but he reinvented and, I may say, perfected it with the RE1 Remake and then, again, gave RE new life with RE4. The man is like a fucking machine, so much talent and good eye to create and lead projects.
Note: not even mentioning all the projects beside the RE brand such as The Evil Within, Dino Crisis and the really underrated God Hand and Vanquish
Y'know, it somehow just now occurs to me that Metal Gear Rising basically did the exact same thing DMC, just without changing IPs.
Kind of makes sense since they got Platinum to work on Rising.
i just beat the remake and it is so so good, but you can’t replace the original. both are 10s
Plus Mikami would use the RE4 over the shoulder camera and difficult slider as core mechanics for Godhand as well.