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@@ExecutionerDan Well, actually, Aliexpress has QC as well, any sort of deviation from standard product can be returned and refunded quite easily. Even as ordinary as stick drift.
@GeorgianPranks I'm stationed in okinawa so I don't know if the aliexpress sellers would ship to me. Not all Amazon sellers do even. Most do but not all.
Hello, I have a question. You mean it's better to turn on hdr to reduce the delay speed when using DualSense Edge, right? In the last video, I thought that steady-5 felt like DualSense, so I changed it like that, but is there much difference between the default setting and stable-5? I'm playing Red DeadReception 2. It's not a detailed game like Call of Duty, but I can adjust the dead zone. I set the dead zone to -3 because the blue color of the graph curve is out of range even if I don't touch the DualSense Edge. The blue line shouldn't be out of range, right?
Those slots on either side of the usb port on the Apex controller are used to attach a phone for moble gaming. Which would require a phone attachment accessory.
Danial ZH I feel like this would be a great improvement over my series 2 elite that has 8 ms latency compared to this 1 ms. That is unreal. I actually find myself in game warzone hitting buttons twice or moving too quick for my game/controller to react. Will I notice a difference in input lag with the apex 4? How about the software for apex 4? How easy does it integrate with windows?
Hi, 7ms is mostly noticeable in games such as COD, xDefiant, but not as much in OW2, and Halo, because you have much more time and health, about the software, it was a little buggy for me, I needed to download 3 older versions and that worked fine, maybe it was just me, but you should keep that in mind too!
I got my controller today, everything worked fine but the screen default GIF just froze and i cant change it with the software. I always get an error code and on the controller it says 2/17 uploading. need help :(
There latest firmware update through the app was buggy and made everyone’s controllers unusable. (They are working on fixing the update to work properly)[there is currently a work around if you change to a specific language the update suddenly works properly)
could you help me ? I still play with my xbox 360 controller and I want to change it, I only play RPGs and action games (god of war, ghost of tsushima, final fantasy), nothing competitive, do you recommend an xbox core controller or this one ?
Hi, if you play RPG and story games mostly, choose a controller that is more compatible and comfortable to you, this delay and speed in the controller is mostly important for competitive players, and is not noticeable to many. I would go with a controller that is comfortable and worth the price and having features I need, in case of this one, I don't think if its necessary, but if you like it, it's a good one!
I bought one after having the Vader 3 pro for a bit. The Apex 4 is the best controller I have ever used. There is a problem though. My Apex 4 left stick cracked in about a month. I am not an abusive user in any way. Others speak of having the same problem. The plastic around the blue billet cracks and renders the stick unusable. Still, while it lasted, it was the best I have used.
Hi, thanks for sharing the info, I heard about it recently a lot, I mostly play on PS5 so I didn't hard test this controller durability yet. thanks again for sharing.
Thanks, I tested it for a few days and since Hall effects are more sensitive, I use a bit higher slope to match Analog sticks, in console with PS5 controller I use 0.31 for linear but here I used 0.80.
Got this controller and probably the best I've used in terms of latency. I would make this my main but I absolutely can't play on Xbox layout style and not having fast click triggers.
Quick question for sir danial im a new watcher and a couple vids ago you went into depth of fov what do you recommend for a linear player would love to hear your thoughts
so far I played Xdefiant with it and I'm happy with linear (made in myself) as the default isn't linear! but need more time for custom curves, it feels very different on PC compared to PS5 (where I mainly play games)
Hi, the two on the button sides are more comfortable to me, but the two in the middle depends on how tall is your finger, but overall depends on how you hold the controller, in terms of the material and pressure, it's comfortable.
I was going to get this controller as a back up,but not anymore. I didn't know it had a built in cronus. That controller is going to be abused in every fps game now.
Hi, I just tried it with dongle, it didn't work, USB connection worked but phone didn't recognize it as controller, maybe some software is needed, but Dongle didn't work at all, keep in mind I only tested on an android 10 device with no software installed.
@@DanielZH I just have the Apex 4. I tried playing with my other analog stick controllers and my reaction time and on target sighting seem to be like moving in molasses in comparison to hall effect controllers. I also had the GameSir G7 SE, but find the Apex 4 'better' for me.
@@maktabati_No it isn't, did you not watch the video? Aside from having mechanical trigger stops and better adaptive triggers, the DS Edge is inferior in every single way. Just because it comes with all these nice accessories, doesn't mean it's the better package, especially when you can easily buy all of those as add-ons for the Apex, and still have money left to spare.
Just got mine the other day. Missing the clicky extreme rate triggers from the dualsense i had. Wish it had a physical trigger stop not a big fan of the software one. Also not a fan of the back buttons personally.
Hey I follow your page I was wondering if it was possible to make a video on the setting on this controller for warzone or cod just like a break down of the setting you use
Hi a Friend of me but this controller for Xbox 😅...but he isn't able to connect it into his xbox you mentionned adaptor Did you have a link to sée that please?^^
Hi! Yes it's not Natively Supported on Xbox, But I saw some other reviews mentioning it could be used on Xbox with an adapter, I'm not sure what that was but you can search for it, it's mainly made for PC/Phones/Switch.
Hey for the tension is there tension level close to /similar ps4 tension? Not fan of Xbox sticks I like ps4 tenison I wouldn’t mind if the controller was had Xbox layout with ps4 stick tenison tho
You can lower or higher it to get the feeling you like, on min, it gets even less than PS4, so I think it's easy to get to that tension matching PS4 sticks.
@@DanielZH yeah I’ve done research and the only Hall effect ps5 controllers I found are from shady not well known sellers or they are selling them for like 300 dollars lol
@@Arctioa wow that's so much, spoilers: I'd be reviewing a new controller soon that is around $200 but is better than any PS5 controller even better than Edge with better sticks and fixed drift! in a month or two it'll be available globally and for now we're going to test it.
Bonjour, vous pouvez le faire pivoter plusieurs fois (jusqu'à 4 comme j'ai testé) quand il devient plus difficile de changer, arrêtez, je l'ai gardé presque le même que les autres contrôleurs que j'utilise.
DS Edge is just overpriced garbage made for Sony shills, as it's not even better than those modded Dualsense controllers that cost around the same, and also come with hall effect joysticks nowadays.
Don’t buy this controller. The top left joy stick breaks so easily. My first one broke less than two weeks of usage and they sent me a replacement but that broke in 3 days. Fortunately I got my money back.
Oh, thanks for letting us know, I mostly used it for story games I play on steam and was OK so far, but I didn't play too much, maybe 30h overall so far, so I'm not sure what would happen.
@@DanielZH no problem. You’re reply makes sense. Apex 4’s a great controller with all the pros for fps games however It’s not durable enough for games like cod if you’re sweaty. If they can fix the weak joystick issue I’d give it a 9.0/10
@@StardustLegacyFighter I’ve had 4 of them in total, 3 of them I returned for replacement and they all broke and one I sold to n eBay, the buyer had the same issue and I had to reimburse him. This was June and July. I live in the UK so postage took 10 days each. I called it a day and bought a scuff however the apex 4 is a brilliant product. Maybe I’ll wait a year and purchase another based on your advice.
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Which one you recommend?
@@williambrown302 The Pro series
I have a question do you by chance know if the ps5 will support the Apex 4 controller?
@@user-rc9rz1td8p it doesn't support.
By the way, apex 4 costs 80$ on Aliexpress. Same controller, just bought 2x higher price on Amazon.
There seems to be some qc issues from some batches so Amazon having a guaranteed refund is better tbh
Yeah I can't trust Aliexpress easily...
@@ExecutionerDan Well, actually, Aliexpress has QC as well, any sort of deviation from standard product can be returned and refunded quite easily. Even as ordinary as stick drift.
@GeorgianPranks I'm stationed in okinawa so I don't know if the aliexpress sellers would ship to me. Not all Amazon sellers do even. Most do but not all.
@@ExecutionerDan Aliexpress does.
Finally Flydigi🎉 Was waiting for this review after every other UA-camr praising them💯
Hope you like it!
As a pc player, this controller is a game changer.
Yeah it really is!
Hello, I have a question. You mean it's better to turn on hdr to reduce the delay speed when using DualSense Edge, right? In the last video, I thought that steady-5 felt like DualSense, so I changed it like that, but is there much difference between the default setting and stable-5? I'm playing Red DeadReception 2. It's not a detailed game like Call of Duty, but I can adjust the dead zone. I set the dead zone to -3 because the blue color of the graph curve is out of range even if I don't touch the DualSense Edge. The blue line shouldn't be out of range, right?
Those slots on either side of the usb port on the Apex controller are used to attach a phone for moble gaming. Which would require a phone attachment accessory.
Thanks for mentioning! good feature.
Great video, also turbo is often used in offline fighting games not online hopefully🤞
I hope so too, thanks.
just brought the apex 4 should be here soon
Congrats! are you going to use it on PC?
We'll wait for apex 5 in the future
Probably with clicky trigger replacements!
Danial ZH I feel like this would be a great improvement over my series 2 elite that has 8 ms latency compared to this 1 ms. That is unreal. I actually find myself in game warzone hitting buttons twice or moving too quick for my game/controller to react. Will I notice a difference in input lag with the apex 4? How about the software for apex 4? How easy does it integrate with windows?
Hi, 7ms is mostly noticeable in games such as COD, xDefiant, but not as much in OW2, and Halo, because you have much more time and health, about the software, it was a little buggy for me, I needed to download 3 older versions and that worked fine, maybe it was just me, but you should keep that in mind too!
@@DanielZH wow thanks a lot man.
I got my controller today, everything worked fine but the screen default GIF just froze and i cant change it with the software. I always get an error code and on the controller it says 2/17 uploading. need help :(
There latest firmware update through the app was buggy and made everyone’s controllers unusable. (They are working on fixing the update to work properly)[there is currently a work around if you change to a specific language the update suddenly works properly)
could you help me ? I still play with my xbox 360 controller and I want to change it, I only play RPGs and action games (god of war, ghost of tsushima, final fantasy), nothing competitive, do you recommend an xbox core controller or this one ?
Hi, if you play RPG and story games mostly, choose a controller that is more compatible and comfortable to you, this delay and speed in the controller is mostly important for competitive players, and is not noticeable to many. I would go with a controller that is comfortable and worth the price and having features I need, in case of this one, I don't think if its necessary, but if you like it, it's a good one!
I bought one after having the Vader 3 pro for a bit. The Apex 4 is the best controller I have ever used. There is a problem though. My Apex 4 left stick cracked in about a month. I am not an abusive user in any way. Others speak of having the same problem. The plastic around the blue billet cracks and renders the stick unusable. Still, while it lasted, it was the best I have used.
Hi, thanks for sharing the info, I heard about it recently a lot, I mostly play on PS5 so I didn't hard test this controller durability yet. thanks again for sharing.
So proud of you❤
🙏💙
Even though i love my edge controller and think its one a complete package for me, this apex controller looks so sick!!!
Yeah it's actually a good one as a second or even main!
@@DanielZH i would buy one if they ship to my country, gotta check it ot
What is the best slop scale for the sticks, in your opinion? By the way, it's a great video!!!
Thanks, I tested it for a few days and since Hall effects are more sensitive, I use a bit higher slope to match Analog sticks, in console with PS5 controller I use 0.31 for linear but here I used 0.80.
Got this controller and probably the best I've used in terms of latency. I would make this my main but I absolutely can't play on Xbox layout style and not having fast click triggers.
Yeah clicky triggers are essential for some people.
Quick question for sir danial im a new watcher and a couple vids ago you went into depth of fov what do you recommend for a linear player would love to hear your thoughts
Btw my deadzones are-left stick min 4
-left stick max 19
-right stick min 0 and right stick max 100
@@tdI-ei6qvbro if wanna be good in cod use my settings bro 6-6 dynamic
L min 0-5
L max.99
R min 2-5 3 sweat spot
R max .99
AA default or black
98-105 fov in multiplayer 110-120 wz and switch from linear
I’m a dynamic player view my clips trust dynamic is the wave
@@seuas your clips are irrelevant due to the fact that they are a year ago
What is the custom curve you think will work best with this controller?
so far I played Xdefiant with it and I'm happy with linear (made in myself) as the default isn't linear! but need more time for custom curves, it feels very different on PC compared to PS5 (where I mainly play games)
The 4 back buttons on apex 4 are comfortable ? Im using the paddles on edge right now
Hi, the two on the button sides are more comfortable to me, but the two in the middle depends on how tall is your finger, but overall depends on how you hold the controller, in terms of the material and pressure, it's comfortable.
@@DanielZH thanks Dan have a good day !!
I was going to get this controller as a back up,but not anymore. I didn't know it had a built in cronus. That controller is going to be abused in every fps game now.
Hmm Tgd said it’s his favorite wonder if that’s why.. fits the scene
Right, you can use the controller normally though, but not everyone is going to be like that!
Screw that im still getting this controller. I dont give a fuck
This is delusional beyond belief lol can't even comprehend the amount of stupid from this comment
Built in cronus 😂😂😂😂😂. You can set macros on any controller mouse or keyboard. Maybe try using your mind to control your character 🤡
Is it possible to connect to my phone with the dongle and an adapter and what mode can I use?
Hi, I just tried it with dongle, it didn't work, USB connection worked but phone didn't recognize it as controller, maybe some software is needed, but Dongle didn't work at all, keep in mind I only tested on an android 10 device with no software installed.
@@DanielZH ok I think I might be able to use inputx with Maybye emulators and the adapter
It is an awesome controller and ups your competitive edge.
Did you try both? what do you think about analog sticks?
@@DanielZH I just have the Apex 4. I tried playing with my other analog stick controllers and my reaction time and on target sighting seem to be like moving in molasses in comparison to hall effect controllers. I also had the GameSir G7 SE, but find the Apex 4 'better' for me.
Can I get a link for joysticks that would work with this controller
Hi, if you mean joystick caps, you can check this video where I tested from 3 brands: ua-cam.com/video/trYoXcX7gK8/v-deo.html
@danielzh can you make a Call of duty settings video with this controller??
Will consider it with Vader 4 Pro soon
I've tried both and the edge takes the lead 4 me. Be4 I got the edge I was a zero. 3 kd. Now I'm a 4 kd nearly. Which has took me 2 months.
Nice! I think the shape is also important, some people prefer Xbox kind of controllers, while I'm used to PS shape and analog sticks for a long time!
200 dollers for dualsense is a scam
Which controllers would you prefer instead?
Price aside it is still the better cobtroller
@@maktabati_No it isn't, did you not watch the video?
Aside from having mechanical trigger stops and better adaptive triggers, the DS Edge is inferior in every single way.
Just because it comes with all these nice accessories, doesn't mean it's the better package, especially when you can easily buy all of those as add-ons for the Apex, and still have money left to spare.
Just got mine the other day. Missing the clicky extreme rate triggers from the dualsense i had. Wish it had a physical trigger stop not a big fan of the software one. Also not a fan of the back buttons personally.
Yeah, however I love back buttons, really needy for me
Hey I follow your page I was wondering if it was possible to make a video on the setting on this controller for warzone or cod just like a break down of the setting you use
Hi, thanks, will look into it when I wanna do PC settings!
@@DanielZH thank you
Are you using 0 deadzone?
in this test, yes.
gr8 reviews
Thanks 🙏
Have you tried Forza 5 yet? for me vibration not working and adaptive trigget too
Hi, no I haven't tested Forza yet, have you added them to the flydigiSpaceStation and apply the settings from there?
@@DanielZH I tried everything but it didn't work, only forza 4 works.
For ps4 games on the ps5 like older games. Would edge usb mode still pull 1000hz poll rate?
Mostly no, I haven't seen that.
@@DanielZH you’ve tested it? What’s the average polling rate for that
@@DanielZH and in that case, you’d recommend using blue tooth while playing a ps4 game even with the edge on ps5?
@@MoneyManJJ Typically PS4 games have at least over 60ms input lag in 60Hz mode, some are down to 44ms.
@@MoneyManJJ There wouldn't be a noticeable difference between DS4 BT and Edge USB when playing PS4 games.
can work on xbox series?
with a special adaptor it seems yes, but I haven't tested it myself.
Hi a Friend of me but this controller for Xbox 😅...but he isn't able to connect it into his xbox you mentionned adaptor Did you have a link to sée that please?^^
Hi! Yes it's not Natively Supported on Xbox, But I saw some other reviews mentioning it could be used on Xbox with an adapter, I'm not sure what that was but you can search for it, it's mainly made for PC/Phones/Switch.
Maybe the Gulikit Goku adapter can be used for Xbox and PS5..@@DanielZH
Use the Magic-X adapter I just got Apex 4 and that adapter which is compatible
Is it compatible with ps5 ?
No
Hey for the tension is there tension level close to /similar ps4 tension? Not fan of Xbox sticks I like ps4 tenison I wouldn’t mind if the controller was had Xbox layout with ps4 stick tenison tho
You can lower or higher it to get the feeling you like, on min, it gets even less than PS4, so I think it's easy to get to that tension matching PS4 sticks.
Так что в итоге по удобней эдж или апекс 4? У меня есть эдж но я думаю взять от апекса
How can i use this on ps5?
its not supported on PS5
Defiant video
Coming soon
I bought this while I wait for a ps4/ps5 Hall effect stick solution. 😭😭
Hope Sony do something! this is game changer
@@DanielZH yeah I’ve done research and the only Hall effect ps5 controllers I found are from shady not well known sellers or they are selling them for like 300 dollars lol
@@Arctioa wow that's so much, spoilers: I'd be reviewing a new controller soon that is around $200 but is better than any PS5 controller even better than Edge with better sticks and fixed drift! in a month or two it'll be available globally and for now we're going to test it.
Need a ps layout version 💯
Yes!
I would choose Dual Sense Edge over the other controller.
Are you on PC? What would be the reasons to choose Edge over this?
absolutely not
I own both Apex much better
Bonjour comment bien régler la tension des analogue merci
Bonjour, vous pouvez le faire pivoter plusieurs fois (jusqu'à 4 comme j'ai testé)
quand il devient plus difficile de changer, arrêtez, je l'ai gardé presque le même que les autres contrôleurs que j'utilise.
@@DanielZH merci beaucoup faux le desseré aux max et le serrer 4 tour ?
@@user-cb6nd9uq3vta mis quoi du coup ?
@@irox_skylz4061 j’ai desserré et j’ai mis 3 tour
DS Edge is just overpriced garbage made for Sony shills, as it's not even better than those modded Dualsense controllers that cost around the same, and also come with hall effect joysticks nowadays.
I hope there will be a Dualsense Pro that fixes edge problems with more options!
Once again if macros were cheating, they would ban people using them
it's only me calling it "cheat". it might be completely normal!
Don’t buy this controller. The top left joy stick breaks so easily. My first one broke less than two weeks of usage and they sent me a replacement but that broke in 3 days. Fortunately I got my money back.
Oh, thanks for letting us know, I mostly used it for story games I play on steam and was OK so far, but I didn't play too much, maybe 30h overall so far, so I'm not sure what would happen.
@@DanielZH no problem. You’re reply makes sense. Apex 4’s a great controller with all the pros for fps games however It’s not durable enough for games like cod if you’re sweaty. If they can fix the weak joystick issue I’d give it a 9.0/10
That's because of a faulty batch issue in April-May, and it's been fixed since then.
@@StardustLegacyFighter I’ve had 4 of them in total, 3 of them I returned for replacement and they all broke and one I sold to n eBay, the buyer had the same issue and I had to reimburse him. This was June and July. I live in the UK so postage took 10 days each. I called it a day and bought a scuff however the apex 4 is a brilliant product. Maybe I’ll wait a year and purchase another based on your advice.
Aliexpress only 90eu.
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@@DanielZH cuz its true
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