Of course not. Glass or plastic fiber can't conduct electricity. However, this scheme vastly simplifies remote IP devices that require an external power source.
In this video, we're using composite/powered fiber cable which integrates both fiber optic strands for data transmission and copper conductors for power delivery within a single jacket. You can find more details on our website: www.fastcabling.com/product-category/composite-fiber-cable/
Fiber doesn't carry electricity. If you want to send power over fiber, there are two methods: using a composite fiber cable or using a PoE fiber media converter.
@@Fastcabling No, you can actually send power over fiber. It doesn't carry electricity, but it does carry light energy. With a powerfull laser, and photovoltaic power converters in the recieving end, you can transfer power over glass.
PPCs typically convert only 30-50% of the light energy into electrical energy. The amount of power that can be transmitted is limited by the strength of the laser and the heat tolerance of the system. This makes it unsuitable for high-power applications. High-powered lasers and specialized photovoltaic converters are expensive, which might not be economically feasible for all applications. Moreover, DC power is safer to handle than lasers.
@@Fastcabling You are correct about this. Your cable, although usefull in it's own right, is not transfering power over fiber. It's transfering power alongside optical fiber. My argument is; if you merged a 110/230v cable and an ethernet cable. Would you call it Power over Ethernet?
@Fastcabling actually there is a real power over fiber technology but you are so dumb that you don't realize that you are claiming that your product is something that it is not.
It depends on the fiber type and power transmission. 1. Fiber Type: Single-mode fiber can support distances up to 40 km, while multimode fiber typically supports shorter distances, ranging from 300 meters to 2 km. 2. The distance for power transmission depends on: a. the cable's copper gauge (thickness): Larger conductors (lower gauge numbers) reduce resistance and allow longer distances. b. the voltage level: Using 48V DC power, you might achieve about 300-500 meters for low-power devices, like cameras or sensors. On the other hand, higher AC voltages (e.g., 110V or 220V) can travel longer distances with less voltage drop. However, for safety concerns, you might need to install circuit breakers/air switches if you're using AC power.
It's just power alongside fiber. In each section of the video, you just said the same thing five different ways over and over again. Appreciate the video, but we're not idiots. Well at least some of us.
It depends on the fiber type and power transmission. 1. Fiber Type: Single-mode fiber can support distances up to 40 km, while multimode fiber typically supports shorter distances, ranging from 300 meters to 2 km. 2. The distance for power transmission depends on: a. the cable's copper gauge (thickness): Larger conductors (lower gauge numbers) reduce resistance and allow longer distances. b. the voltage level: Using 48V DC power, you might achieve about 300-500 meters for low-power devices, like cameras or sensors. On the other hand, higher AC voltages (e.g., 110V or 220V) can travel longer distances with less voltage drop. However, for safety concerns, you might need to install circuit breakers/air switches if you're using AC power.
Power WITH Fiber not OVER. NFPA 70 NEC will give you all you need to know for wire types/sizes needed for distance/power needs. Derate wire to prevent voltage drop. I myself run fiber and provide green energy to devices onsite as its cheaper and I can buy more fiber. Its all low power so...
DC is generally safer to handle; however, if voltage drop is a concern, AC can be a viable alternative. Regardless of the choice, it's crucial to install a circuit breaker to ensure safety and protect the system.
The caption is so wrong and misleading! you preaching it like its the main fiber that's carrying power whereas its a copper/power cable wrapped with fiber! it is cool but the big downside to it is that its only 2core fiber with no redundancy. Imagine if a core fails, what will happen?
We're using a BiDi SFP module that sends and receives optical signals over a single fiber strand and use the other fiber as a backup. ERPS switches can solve the problem of network redundancy.
You should have known better. Glass or plastic are non-conductors of electricity. Personally I think it's a fantastic idea to combine power and fiber cables into one unit.
Fiber doesn't carry electricity for sure. But this is the way to go if you want to transmit power along with fiber cable. Instead of running a separate power cable, you only need to run one.
@@williamjones4483actually there is a real power over fiber technology which I am intrested in. It is really useful when you need to get data across a few million volts potential difference. Clearly an unusual case but one that would be really problematic if there is a copper conductor in parallel with the fiber cable
There was no mention if this cable is direct burial rated. Besides that any copper wire going outside MUST be shielded cable and properly bonded to the electrical systems single point Earth ground. ☝️ The drain wire is bonded to the single point earth ground. The use of a SPD must also be installed at the camera and PSE! ☝️ Which is also bonded to the same single point earth grounding system in the building. Lastly, no mention what the temperature rating is or the certification this cable meets?!? cUL?!? One last point some of the ridiculous comments about 60 amps or other are just plain stupid. We are LITERALLY talking about POE! Not powering a motor, fridge, toaster, whatever you dumb shits! If you can’t understand that you don’t need to be watching this video! 🤦♂️🤢 It’s clear the vast majority of the people commenting are not real installers in the IT Industry much less know what the hell Ohms Law is! 🙄
This cable is direct-burial, with an operating temperature range of -40°C to +70°C. For more details, you can check out the product page here: www.fastcabling.com/product/100m-composite-fiber-optic-cable/ It’s essential to ground the cable properly, whether you’re using the powered/composite fiber cable or the armored version, as long as there are metal components. We’ve specifically designed a surge protector for the composite fiber cable:www.fastcabling.com/product/dc48v-optical-power-surge-protector/
@@Fastcabling Appreciate the links to the technical specifications of this hybrid cable. But, it did not provide any information as to what standards this cable meets. It also doesn’t say or provide any information about if the copper wire is actually shielded which it doesn’t appear to be the case. I gather you mean the fibre cable is armoured vs the copper cable. Also, it’s obvious why this video is about running AC power vs DC power. There is zero chance the 20 AWG copper wire you’re using would be even close to being appropriate for 48 VDC POE! 🤦♂️ The voltage drop on 20 AWG gauge wire past 100 feet never mind the 320 maximum for Ethernet cable is more than the 2% loss allowed! ☹️ If this product or similar hybrid cable is to sell well in North America the copper wire portion must be shielded and have a drain wire and be at least 18~12 AWG gauge depending upon distance for a DC supply. You must also provide a grounding block / terminator for the armoured fibre cable. I really like some of the products your company offers. But, have to say this hybrid cable needs more development and must have certification from a known entity along with all the requirements I stated up above. I help companies alpha / beta test products every day. To help identify problems and to make them better. You may reach out to me if this is something you feel would help your fine company. As I love seeing Chinese companies succeed in North America as it promotes innovation and competition. 👍
Spoiler: this is definitely NOT power over fibre.
Of course not. Glass or plastic fiber can't conduct electricity. However, this scheme vastly simplifies remote IP devices that require an external power source.
In this video, we're using composite/powered fiber cable which integrates both fiber optic strands for data transmission and copper conductors for power delivery within a single jacket. You can find more details on our website: www.fastcabling.com/product-category/composite-fiber-cable/
it's a hybrid fiber cable, in the same jacket there are 2 copper wires & 1-2 fiber cables depending on brands these days.
Nope, no, niet! All you did was combine electricity and fiber optics in one cable. You did not send power over fiber optics.
Fiber doesn't carry electricity. If you want to send power over fiber, there are two methods: using a composite fiber cable or using a PoE fiber media converter.
@@Fastcabling No, you can actually send power over fiber. It doesn't carry electricity, but it does carry light energy. With a powerfull laser, and photovoltaic power converters in the recieving end, you can transfer power over glass.
PPCs typically convert only 30-50% of the light energy into electrical energy. The amount of power that can be transmitted is limited by the strength of the laser and the heat tolerance of the system. This makes it unsuitable for high-power applications. High-powered lasers and specialized photovoltaic converters are expensive, which might not be economically feasible for all applications. Moreover, DC power is safer to handle than lasers.
@@Fastcabling You are correct about this.
Your cable, although usefull in it's own right, is not transfering power over fiber. It's transfering power alongside optical fiber.
My argument is; if you merged a 110/230v cable and an ethernet cable. Would you call it Power over Ethernet?
@Fastcabling actually there is a real power over fiber technology but you are so dumb that you don't realize that you are claiming that your product is something that it is not.
Those 220V cables are awfully thin. I doubt it's over 60Amps
No device that I know of would require 60 amps. However, a 6-10 amp capacity could be quite doable and fill the electrical needs of any devices.
@williamjones4483 Your right. I wonder this is basically PoE but with fiber instead?
This composite fiber cable contains two fiber strands and a copper conductor to carry AC/DC power.
Mide in China ;-)
@@Crazy--Clown Everything is made in China!😩
Yes I also want to know the distance for composite fiber cable?
Depends on voltage and current needed.
It depends on the fiber type and power transmission.
1. Fiber Type: Single-mode fiber can support distances up to 40 km, while multimode fiber typically supports shorter distances, ranging from 300 meters to 2 km.
2. The distance for power transmission depends on:
a. the cable's copper gauge (thickness): Larger conductors (lower gauge numbers) reduce resistance and allow longer distances.
b. the voltage level: Using 48V DC power, you might achieve about 300-500 meters for low-power devices, like cameras or sensors. On the other hand, higher AC voltages (e.g., 110V or 220V) can travel longer distances with less voltage drop. However, for safety concerns, you might need to install circuit breakers/air switches if you're using AC power.
It's just power alongside fiber. In each section of the video, you just said the same thing five different ways over and over again. Appreciate the video, but we're not idiots. Well at least some of us.
Hi, what's the max distance of composite fiber cable?
Depends on voltage and current needed.
It depends on the fiber type and power transmission.
1. Fiber Type: Single-mode fiber can support distances up to 40 km, while multimode fiber typically supports shorter distances, ranging from 300 meters to 2 km.
2. The distance for power transmission depends on:
a. the cable's copper gauge (thickness): Larger conductors (lower gauge numbers) reduce resistance and allow longer distances.
b. the voltage level: Using 48V DC power, you might achieve about 300-500 meters for low-power devices, like cameras or sensors. On the other hand, higher AC voltages (e.g., 110V or 220V) can travel longer distances with less voltage drop. However, for safety concerns, you might need to install circuit breakers/air switches if you're using AC power.
Power WITH Fiber not OVER. NFPA 70 NEC will give you all you need to know for wire types/sizes needed for distance/power needs. Derate wire to prevent voltage drop. I myself run fiber and provide green energy to devices onsite as its cheaper and I can buy more fiber. Its all low power so...
YES YES YES !!! Awesome video !! You really don't wan tto send AC, but. DC across the pair of wires :)
DC is generally safer to handle; however, if voltage drop is a concern, AC can be a viable alternative. Regardless of the choice, it's crucial to install a circuit breaker to ensure safety and protect the system.
The caption is so wrong and misleading! you preaching it like its the main fiber that's carrying power whereas its a copper/power cable wrapped with fiber! it is cool but the big downside to it is that its only 2core fiber with no redundancy. Imagine if a core fails, what will happen?
We're using a BiDi SFP module that sends and receives optical signals over a single fiber strand and use the other fiber as a backup. ERPS switches can solve the problem of network redundancy.
@Fastcabling great fiber is cleared! But just NOT power over fiber!
(POF) ahhaha😂
with this false topic, you made me waste 9 minutes for nothing
You should have known better. Glass or plastic are non-conductors of electricity. Personally I think it's a fantastic idea to combine power and fiber cables into one unit.
Fiber doesn't carry electricity for sure. But this is the way to go if you want to transmit power along with fiber cable. Instead of running a separate power cable, you only need to run one.
@@williamjones4483 Lol running fiber to camera's... You obviously don't know how fragile fiber can be.
While fiber is more fragile than copper cables, proper installation techniques and the use of armored cables mitigate most issues.
@@williamjones4483actually there is a real power over fiber technology which I am intrested in. It is really useful when you need to get data across a few million volts potential difference. Clearly an unusual case but one that would be really problematic if there is a copper conductor in parallel with the fiber cable
There was no mention if this cable is direct burial rated.
Besides that any copper wire going outside MUST be shielded cable and properly bonded to the electrical systems single point Earth ground. ☝️
The drain wire is bonded to the single point earth ground.
The use of a SPD must also be installed at the camera and PSE! ☝️ Which is also bonded to the same single point earth grounding system in the building.
Lastly, no mention what the temperature rating is or the certification this cable meets?!? cUL?!?
One last point some of the ridiculous comments about 60 amps or other are just plain stupid.
We are LITERALLY talking about POE! Not powering a motor, fridge, toaster, whatever you dumb shits!
If you can’t understand that you don’t need to be watching this video! 🤦♂️🤢
It’s clear the vast majority of the people commenting are not real installers in the IT Industry much less know what the hell Ohms Law is! 🙄
This cable is direct-burial, with an operating temperature range of -40°C to +70°C. For more details, you can check out the product page here: www.fastcabling.com/product/100m-composite-fiber-optic-cable/
It’s essential to ground the cable properly, whether you’re using the powered/composite fiber cable or the armored version, as long as there are metal components. We’ve specifically designed a surge protector for the composite fiber cable:www.fastcabling.com/product/dc48v-optical-power-surge-protector/
@@Fastcabling Appreciate the links to the technical specifications of this hybrid cable. But, it did not provide any information as to what standards this cable meets.
It also doesn’t say or provide any information about if the copper wire is actually shielded which it doesn’t appear to be the case.
I gather you mean the fibre cable is armoured vs the copper cable.
Also, it’s obvious why this video is about running AC power vs DC power.
There is zero chance the 20 AWG copper wire you’re using would be even close to being appropriate for 48 VDC POE! 🤦♂️
The voltage drop on 20 AWG gauge wire past 100 feet never mind the 320 maximum for Ethernet cable is more than the 2% loss allowed! ☹️
If this product or similar hybrid cable is to sell well in North America the copper wire portion must be shielded and have a drain wire and be at least 18~12 AWG gauge depending upon distance for a DC supply.
You must also provide a grounding block / terminator for the armoured fibre cable.
I really like some of the products your company offers. But, have to say this hybrid cable needs more development and must have certification from a known entity along with all the requirements I stated up above.
I help companies alpha / beta test products every day. To help identify problems and to make them better.
You may reach out to me if this is something you feel would help your fine company.
As I love seeing Chinese companies succeed in North America as it promotes innovation and competition. 👍
It can handle AC/DC power. We have the 16AWG gauge version, up for customization. There is a grounding point to the armored fiber cable.