I gotta say - Collapse definitely deserves to be in the hall of fame of all-time greats. His impact in every single game is unbelievable. So stable. Very impressive.
alot of people also wanted tmac to be in the nba hall of fame because of how good he was but sadly he didnt make it because he had a short career if you wanna say he didnt had rings then billups hd a ring had a good run but didnt get to it as well you need to win multiple ot be impactful and be great for a long time not just being impactful in a few games
Not only Yatoro is the best Carry right now Collapse is also the best offlaner now! His axe is just ART. When was the last time we see an axe dominating with a Rampage like this? Damn this guy is just a genius.
Everyone was calling him Godson, he loses a series and instantly people go back to hating him. It's so stupid. They're all genuinely great players. Game 1 was sorta on void, look at his damage compared to Yataro, which wouldn't matter so much if he had multi enemy chrono's every time but he didn't. Topson played Dazzle mid game 1 insanely well. I don't get why he's taking the blame here?
Where are the people who were making long ass argument that old og is better than this team right now? Lmao ana or topson isn’t even close to yatoro’s form right now let alone collapse added.
I hope for that. Both Tundra and Spirit are teams I cheer for. For Spirit a little bit more, because excellent player TorontoTokyo left them, they had to move headquarters from Russia due to war, and most important despite war they are 2 Ukraine and 3 Russia players in same team. Huge respect for their performance in that circumstances.
*cough* your statement should be ready for the "if they win ti12, that still isnt as good as 2 times back to back" *cough*. although i'd say i think team spirit is probably at their prime now, they may perform very well this and next year. and adding that putin is putting more money into esport investment, it could be seen as a big mental boost.
@@user-if6pi2rz6oLol Putin is only putting money in his own bank (and his pals) accounts (though he is very ill (terminal cancer) as insiders say and can die soon). If you only knew the official percentages which go into healthcare, sports etc, they are nearly 2-5 times lower than in Europe. We have 3% of the budget for healthcare with 10-15% in France, Britain, Australia. Moreover, esports is only commercial, it's not related to government.
@@ilearntohate im trying not to drag politics into the chat, so i'll skip the talk about corruption. but the fact that putin himself did talk about investing in esports (through changing policies...) regardless of how many % it's worth compared to Eu/na, it still is a rise !!
nah dazzle really play good there. its just the void didn't play well. bad chronos positioning is bad as well in that game. im not saying im good but that's what i just see
@melvinnaranja4934 all i am saying is dazzle can play as good as he wants but the fact axe 🪓 through his spell makes him 3 spell hero .... imagine same game with out axe in it ? How many times dazzle would of save with grave ...but yeah void was missing
@@krasimirmarinov6070 they can play against axe, Topson's dazzle is not a support dazzle anyway. Their main problem is the carry difference, PA just deal way to much damage while Void on the other hand failed to deliver.
So many low rank players sayin bad things about Tundra like they are pro. His draft, his item build, his rotation etc..like wtf, you cant even make it to TI let alone be selected in a good team irl..not a fan of Tundra either but if u have nothing good to say about a player just stfu and enjoy the game
Overly used whoosh, not everyone use reddit bro. I bet you're the type of guy who got surprised thinking theres anotber languase aside from english, anotber country aside from America
Is the game 2 at the end clash winnable for Tundra? Morph aegis, Tusk bkb, Dazz at the backline either way they tried, bec. can't think of a better outcome unless Silencer and Tide refreshes
This comment section is filled with hearlds, their arguments dont even make sense. This was a good match fun to watch would have gone to game 3 if collapse didnt counter tundra so hard with axe taking void in 2 sec.
What i am surprised about is Tundra still giving hella work to Team Spirit both games, and i thought they will have easy wins since its the first time they playing with Topson in their squad. i guess Tundra will be a lot stronger for TI.
did you forget, he won TI after playing with 14 different heroes on the main stage, morph, ck, juggernaut, luna, sven, void, lifestealer, mk, tb, tiny, pa, drow, spectre, naga which are his heroes? all of it? not enough ban slot and picks
Topson played so bad both the games. He couldn't do anything with dazzle and had larl show him how to really dominate using the heroes. Topson needs to check his ego before going into a game cause he's definitely not playing the best right. If this keeps up, let Nine back to mid.
He didn’t even do terrible the first game, second game had a pretty shit start but still dropped the most damage on his team, there were multiple mistakes way before tops on us to blame.
Both games he completely destroyed his lane and tundra never had a comanding position in both game. Midlaners are suppose to control the tempo of the game and topson didnt contribute much to be honest.
@@BlackSpyda1000 probably because they're still trying to figure out how to play with a new midlaner and nine as a pos4. Not sure about this but it could be one of the reasons. I can agree that Topson had a bad start the 2nd game but I honestly don't agree that he needs his ego checked. He knows where he is. they were just outdrafted and countered so well by TS.
Totally agreed. Its not because topson not a good mid. Just his playstyle doesnt blend well with tundra's. And nine not a good pos 4 as saksa,jerax etc.. he's better at mid instead of pos4
@ nine is too good of a mid to get moved to pos 4, i can't help but feel like 33 isn't performing, aui or saksa are way better and there was soo many great pos 4 players that could fit in with tundra's playstyle, feels bad how much potential is wasted with this move
@@jeffreydomingo9478 The problem is the removed luck, 40% chance on dagger to get the new crit buff synergizes too much with the always-blurred aghs effect. They just prime their crits with the dagger first and go in for ez kills with divine late game.
Dazzle is an early game hero. I dont have experience and hours on dota 2 like Topson, but he should be picking heroes that can scale by time because if you fail in the early game, then your game is finished. Topson knows this 100% and still risked to play with dazzle. Public games win streak on dazzle is not equal win in competition against top players.
@@getburn2014 bro i've been watching all tundra games where skiter got pl, almost every match he has been standing behind his supports with 4k+ hp and do nothing. xdd
Topson could be played lot of heroes but he decided to always play the most squishy and irrelevant heros lol cant even get 1 kill in a TF. he leaves all the work for skitter and 33.
I gotta say - Collapse definitely deserves to be in the hall of fame of all-time greats. His impact in every single game is unbelievable. So stable. Very impressive.
so does ace
Not TI tho
alot of people also wanted tmac to be in the nba hall of fame because of how good he was but sadly he didnt make it because he had a short career if you wanna say he didnt had rings then billups hd a ring had a good run but didnt get to it as well you need to win multiple ot be impactful and be great for a long time not just being impactful in a few games
@@louuu3201Tmac is literally in the hall of fame watchu mean HAHAHAHAHA
@@louuu3201lol L take for inaccuracy
Not only Yatoro is the best Carry right now
Collapse is also the best offlaner now!
His axe is just ART. When was the last time we see an axe dominating with a Rampage like this? Damn this guy is just a genius.
Why would anyone bash on Tundra players? They played really well, but Collapse Axe is just better on Game 1
human nature
Collapse... what a player man. Best gamesence i have ever seen.
Sence? Sence when?
Bro is SENCing something
That axe game is definetly one of the best solo performance i have ever watched.
The enemy team just Collapsed
@@4444RioTcollaxed
I like how this meta/comfort picking teams get decimated by spirit who has 100+hero options.
COLLAXE!
Him and Yatoro are all-around beasts.
Collapse beyond godlike with centaur LMAO he's too good
Bro that call was insane 8:57
lol, range control insane.
Everyone was calling him Godson, he loses a series and instantly people go back to hating him. It's so stupid. They're all genuinely great players. Game 1 was sorta on void, look at his damage compared to Yataro, which wouldn't matter so much if he had multi enemy chrono's every time but he didn't. Topson played Dazzle mid game 1 insanely well. I don't get why he's taking the blame here?
Youre 4k or less you wouldnt understand
yeah because you're proabably a better human being@@amirevcran4030
@@amirevcran4030 means ur 4k+ or 5k? kinda low too xD
Dont forget picking dazle while axe still on the table for enemy
@@cts5567 says who? Average rank would be 3 to 4 k which is where you noobs are. That doesn't make me a trash 5k.
8:57 what a fucking call
collapseeeeee
Yeah like BRO IN CHRONO AND IN THE EDGE
08:57 that call was pretty ridiculous
I recall Collapse saying they never did well vs Tundra in their scrims. I'm glad to finally see them getting a 2-0 in Bo3 against them!
What a world class player collapse 👏👏
9:00 this call was dope af
I just have to say if collapse plays mid hes probably gonna destroy the whole dota scene. Just really mechanically skilled . Unreal.
Collapse just another level.. skiter really been pocketed by collapse
add topson, he rekt by collapse axe and centaur
Collapse Axe was crazy with refresher! Best Axe gameplay in pro scene for a long time
Watch PSG.LGD niu axe gameplay against GG. It was also very impressive if you are keen to watch decent axe performances
8:58 that's so fucking sick by collapse
Where are the people who were making long ass argument that old og is better than this team right now? Lmao ana or topson isn’t even close to yatoro’s form right now let alone collapse added.
2 TI's back to back 🥱
Peak dota2 skills, top1: pre ti6- and ti7miracle. Top2 : Ti10 collapse and yatoro.
yeah og winning ti team was shit compare to spirit winning ti team, collapsed and yatoro were destroying any team at that year
@@Farisss11 They didnt won back to back tho. Two TI's btw. Back to back 🥱
@@ajrubio5090 won 2 ti in dry year while other team were lowest of the low
collapse is so insanely good lol . what a menace
Found my favorite puck and voker player here. Hey Henry! 🙌🏻
theres no doubt this collapse guy is so freaking good 😮
Tundra won't never win vs TS if they cant hold Collapse and find Yatoro in early game. Yatoro is the way too scary in late game
That call is insane 8:59
Masterclass from COLLAPSE
haters: Collapse is nothing without a broken Magnus
meanwhile, Collapse made Tundra collapse in the first game using Axe with magic item builds lmao.
Haters LMAO
People a complaining how Topson and tundra playing so bad discrediting how good is team spirit.
Average topson fans, cant see other things besides him. I dont think they know spirit and tundra won TI and kept calling them trash.
That call when fv chrono is so good
Damn, Larl stomped my boi topias in mid using his signature hero dazzle! Nice try tundra! Bounce back!
? What larl stomped topspn at mid ?... we watched different video because I see difference of cs and boy 42 cs over 12?..
@@cryst01 he's referring to game 2. Game 1 topson was using dazzle
“signature hero” wrong bro…
@@cryst01 can u finish the video before commenting bro? topson got solo killed by larl in game 2 too
@@A_burger1720 yah I know but larl got stomp really hard on game 1.. they even gank 4vs1 still kill larl
If they will win ti12 i think they will be the greatest team in dota hisory
I hope for that.
Both Tundra and Spirit are teams I cheer for.
For Spirit a little bit more, because excellent player TorontoTokyo left them, they had to move headquarters from Russia due to war, and most important despite war they are 2 Ukraine and 3 Russia players in same team.
Huge respect for their performance in that circumstances.
*cough* your statement should be ready for the "if they win ti12, that still isnt as good as 2 times back to back" *cough*.
although i'd say i think team spirit is probably at their prime now, they may perform very well this and next year. and adding that putin is putting more money into esport investment, it could be seen as a big mental boost.
@@user-if6pi2rz6oLol Putin is only putting money in his own bank (and his pals) accounts (though he is very ill (terminal cancer) as insiders say and can die soon). If you only knew the official percentages which go into healthcare, sports etc, they are nearly 2-5 times lower than in Europe. We have 3% of the budget for healthcare with 10-15% in France, Britain, Australia. Moreover, esports is only commercial, it's not related to government.
@@ilearntohate im trying not to drag politics into the chat, so i'll skip the talk about corruption. but the fact that putin himself did talk about investing in esports (through changing policies...) regardless of how many % it's worth compared to Eu/na, it still is a rise !!
You can never pick dazzle if axe isnt banned...
nah dazzle really play good there. its just the void didn't play well. bad chronos positioning is bad as well in that game. im not saying im good but that's what i just see
@melvinnaranja4934 all i am saying is dazzle can play as good as he wants but the fact axe 🪓 through his spell makes him 3 spell hero .... imagine same game with out axe in it ? How many times dazzle would of save with grave ...but yeah void was missing
@@krasimirmarinov6070 good point
@@krasimirmarinov6070 yeah man indeed void was missing in that game. it basically 4v5 and without void they have no physical dmg.
@@krasimirmarinov6070 they can play against axe, Topson's dazzle is not a support dazzle anyway. Their main problem is the carry difference, PA just deal way to much damage while Void on the other hand failed to deliver.
So many low rank players sayin bad things about Tundra like they are pro. His draft, his item build, his rotation etc..like wtf, you cant even make it to TI let alone be selected in a good team irl..not a fan of Tundra either but if u have nothing good to say about a player just stfu and enjoy the game
The tundra hate is real lmao. WP, Spirit are playing like they're gonna win TI
Prize pool is high enough for TS to perform 😂
Yeah, people are weird, talking s**t as if they could lane against a Pro player
This collapse dude is crazy good, hope he wins ti someday
he already won TI
r/woosh
yeah some people dont get the meme
Overly used whoosh, not everyone use reddit bro. I bet you're the type of guy who got surprised thinking theres anotber languase aside from english, anotber country aside from America
@esl dota 2 I thinkthat you should add the post game interview
Collapse and yatoro too strong together in one team
Collapse is the new generation’s -Miracle!
its pleasure to watch how ts crushing teams
Team Spirit Troll them. "Really, first match with dazzle mid? Show them boys"
Saksa isn’t there, he is their best support. Nine didn’t have the experience…Nine Mid is more Advantage
Getting completely outdrafted. Spirit actually read the patch notes
they blame topson, but look at skiter. he's kinda off this game
It is easy to predict and counter Topson. Every game same heroes. Nine wasnt like that.
Is the game 2 at the end clash winnable for Tundra? Morph aegis, Tusk bkb, Dazz at the backline either way they tried, bec. can't think of a better outcome unless Silencer and Tide refreshes
8:57
yatoro definition of true carry
the skitter carry is the problem , 2 game also didn't doing carry .
Collapse is the realncarry lowkey
Theres a reason why he was mvp on their ti win :p
This comment section is filled with hearlds, their arguments dont even make sense. This was a good match fun to watch would have gone to game 3 if collapse didnt counter tundra so hard with axe taking void in 2 sec.
沒有如果😢
如果ti10那場決賽,ame沒有自己一個人走下路,不被抓的話,可能LGD能拿ti冠軍了😢😂😂
Yeah, Topson fans coping and crying, blaming skitter LMAO
Classic topson: i will play 2 heroes and hope for the best.
He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”
Luke 11:28
Based
Just major outdrafting by Spirit. Also Yatoro got two comfort heroes. Tundra doesn't do well against aggression.
Stop giving 33 passive heroes like Tide. Give him visage or lycan or something. Just not heroes that rely heavily on big CD ultis
Isn't he the drafter?
Tide isn't performing well in any game in the tournament. Why are they still picking him?
Cuz tide's shard can leash bro
Amazing performance from both team! As you'd expect from TI winners
What i am surprised about is Tundra still giving hella work to Team Spirit both games, and i thought they will have easy wins since its the first time they playing with Topson in their squad. i guess Tundra will be a lot stronger for TI.
Theyve been skrimming for months
copium
1st game? Topson wasn't playing with them in group stages?
@@wk6001 read it again boi
@@GMM-j92 read it again. M asking same question again
How much price
TeaM Spirit might become another double TI winner
Larl reached his S tier mid laner status, Team Spirit is now back on their TI10 level.
I knew Team spirit will win..Faceless void is useless against Axe...
PA is too OP this patched :( I think they should nerf CM
Nerf 4 spirit too
PA Balance 8:05
My boy Collapse with my favorite hero Axe...
GGWp....
This is the era of Kulaps.
love like once ppl support few teams now its about hating everyone . miss 2015 , 2023 is just bunch of bettors salty about everyone and everything
Why does everyone keep giving Yatoro his heroes tho?
Because there are many yatoro heros. Also they need to fear collapse heros more
YATORO HAS A LARGE HERO POOL, THE BEST HC WITH AME
You can't ban Yatoro heroes. He has a lot. LOL. He is the only carry player to do the hero challenge in TI and won it.
Not enough bans in the draft to ban yatoro
did you forget, he won TI after playing with 14 different heroes on the main stage,
morph, ck, juggernaut, luna, sven, void, lifestealer, mk, tb, tiny, pa, drow, spectre, naga
which are his heroes? all of it? not enough ban slot and picks
Yatoro is like messi, Miposhka Xavi, Mira Busquets, Larl Iniesta. But Collaaaapse man, he is Ronaldinho!
i cant agreed more , this guy know ball for sure , W
Miracle like virat kohli ❤❤
No way Team spirit would lose this, remember the prize pool
Tundra without Wraith Pack didn't achieve anything.
Dude what is this PA hero? Gaben please fix it
Yeah Nerf hes aghs or her blur. Its so op and very good for scouting
@@johnreyramasasa7738 the cd is also broken
How to know that offlanner is really good ? They can play tide so good and on point .
Tundra draft so bad i think they may have did some experiment
Topson played so bad both the games. He couldn't do anything with dazzle and had larl show him how to really dominate using the heroes. Topson needs to check his ego before going into a game cause he's definitely not playing the best right. If this keeps up, let Nine back to mid.
He didn’t even do terrible the first game, second game had a pretty shit start but still dropped the most damage on his team, there were multiple mistakes way before tops on us to blame.
@@skidofo5625that's the thing, why did he had a shit start
Both games he completely destroyed his lane and tundra never had a comanding position in both game. Midlaners are suppose to control the tempo of the game and topson didnt contribute much to be honest.
@@BlackSpyda1000 probably because they're still trying to figure out how to play with a new midlaner and nine as a pos4. Not sure about this but it could be one of the reasons. I can agree that Topson had a bad start the 2nd game but I honestly don't agree that he needs his ego checked. He knows where he is. they were just outdrafted and countered so well by TS.
Taste of his own medicine
should've looked for another pos 4 instead of getting Topson
Totally agreed. Its not because topson not a good mid. Just his playstyle doesnt blend well with tundra's. And nine not a good pos 4 as saksa,jerax etc.. he's better at mid instead of pos4
Aui
@ nine is too good of a mid to get moved to pos 4, i can't help but feel like 33 isn't performing, aui or saksa are way better and there was soo many great pos 4 players that could fit in with tundra's playstyle, feels bad how much potential is wasted with this move
collapse the best offlaner in the world?
team spirit the best team really.
Refresher axe Collapse signature 😂
lmao larl give throwson lesson for playing dazzle mid
You can't use that strat pick topson like picking dazzle promise Team Spirit always know how to adjust their heroes
no shard dazzle?
collapse in2 game rampage,beyond godlike
Spirit feels so unstoppable since riyadh masters
Topson is not Topson anymore😂
2:44
"He will not get the dunk as Larl kicked him away... Larl? Why did you do this?"
which caster was that? doesn't see that axe is silenced lol
Cap is the caster
haha. i repeatedly click the time stamp. larl kicked him away~
A series full of dotagasms
Who had aggies
Nerf PA lmao that new update of his Ulti
Larl teaching topson how to play dazzle mid
collapse is the best player in the world at the moment!
imagine if ttokyo is still with spirit, all ti winners on an upper bracket match kekw
Collapse Axe and Magnus ❤
skiter is a 1$ carry while yatoro is a 4$
Team Spirit just dismantled Tundra
Nerf PA. Game becomes so unbalanced when pa gets fat no carry can stand a chance against it
So true. U can be a 5 slotted core, 2 lucky crits, then u are gone.
@@jeffreydomingo9478 The problem is the removed luck, 40% chance on dagger to get the new crit buff synergizes too much with the always-blurred aghs effect. They just prime their crits with the dagger first and go in for ez kills with divine late game.
Can topson pick normally? Dazel mid ? Weak bro
Can topson pick normally, do you know who Topson is? He is known for picking untraditional mid laners, noob
Dazzle is an early game hero. I dont have experience and hours on dota 2 like Topson, but he should be picking heroes that can scale by time because if you fail in the early game, then your game is finished. Topson knows this 100% and still risked to play with dazzle. Public games win streak on dazzle is not equal win in competition against top players.
Teaching the 2times winner. LMAO!
@@abcfx7391Larl won with mid Dazzle in game 2 lmao. And this wasn't the first time Topson picked Dazzle in this tour.
Yatoro is very2 Good Offlaner honestly
I cant wait to see , if Yatoro can use his Drow on TI
Ummm
told u, as long as there are no drug tests in dota ti. team spirit will keep winning.
What are drugs give to you?
@@networkid4642 well i guess we have a junkie here folks.
Skiter PL? Auto win for opponent
same carry draft in SR vs Betboom. Betboom got PL and lose.
@@getburn2014 bro i've been watching all tundra games where skiter got pl, almost every match he has been standing behind his supports with 4k+ hp and do nothing. xdd
@@xdplayah yeah XD
Topson could be played lot of heroes but he decided to always play the most squishy and irrelevant heros lol cant even get 1 kill in a TF. he leaves all the work for skitter and 33.
Both heroes played by Topson this series are also played by Larl 😂. Spot any difference? 😂
@@nongprayuth485 yeah Collapse and Yatoro big difference
I always hear collapse name call by caster