Honestly it would be nice if he was standing behind his original vision some more. Second wave of buffs were unnecessary as frick, especially removing resonance from the passive. Now Philclair is just a stronger Nclair.
@@blindeyedblightmain3565Even outside of burn team? I played his 1st version and it was pretty bad, straight up dying and losing clash in auto in F1 (prequad village) MD, with Nfaust, base Yisang/honglu supporting his ass AND in a burn team all ut4 and lvl45. Yeah it was auto + prequad but bruh it was F1. I was up against silt current final boss as well and oh boyyyy he is a deadweight there. 2nd buff maybe too much I agree but with this much team restriction. Boss restriction. My limbillionth burn ut4 EGOs. Ut4 burn team. I do expect smth more than “alright I guess”
@@blindeyedblightmain3565 nigga stfu and be happy the devs actually listen unlike other games where shit units will never get buffed or even worst nerf everything but buffs nothing, so don't give us the "unnecessary" bs
"Hello. This is Kim Jihoon. Our design intent with Dawn Office Fixer Sinclair was to make an interesting ID that required intelligent SP management and careful teambuilding, but during the testing phase we had forgotten our target audience's staggering rates of illiteracy. As an apology, we have buffed Dawn Office Fixer Sinclair so hard that he will fill out your tax forms for you with his Skill 2, and I will personally deliver it to your country's local office. We apologize for any inconvenience."
He was unironically horrible before the buffs though. His s1 and 2 only roll average with ego active, and below with out, assuming he rolls all heads, but due to his insane ap loss, he has horrible consistency issues, so he can't even roll average without wrath res for his passive. Outside of his s3, his clashing is just average, and is mad terrible by a horrible lack of consistency. Why would I use Philip when I could use another ID capable of rolling 11 on s1 and 16 on s2 (of which there are alot) without constantly losing sp?
just getting even a single re-roll on wingbeat, makes it do more raw damage than other ego. that's not even including the gluttony fragility status it inflicts. Its 100% going to be the best damage ego for single target enemies. Its less a general use ego, since its clash is pretty bad. But when an enemy is staggered and you have a 45 sanity Ishmael with no good nuking skills. That's the best time to use it
You're underestimating Wingbeat a LOT: Even with just one reuse it's already more damage on a single target than nearly any other EGO, and it's surprisingly reliable to get more hits and even more absurd damage. It's not a clash-winner, but it's only one of her EGO: She can just use other stuff for clashes. This thing inflicts absolutely stupendous numbers.
You are really underselling wingbeat. The low and high rolls do exist, but youre more likely going to hit 3-4 times. The glutony fragile compounds the damags, and 3+7+7+7 is a fantastic damage line. 100% going to be a go to execute or maybe even on demand quick suppression esq skill in rupture, since they have a good amount of glutony as is.
Then second coin of wingbeat can be rerolled 5 times, which means 6 gluttony fragility, even more healing, and a 7 coin ego that rolls 52. It's so busted holy.
I could imagine wingbeat getting absolutely insane if we get more sp support passives like butler faust, where you recover sp on hit on enemies with sinking. Maybe like a similar support passive for bleed teams.
I've gotten to play Philip Sinclair for a little bit so far and he feels really strong. I didn't know he was going to get a buff, so I look forward to him being even stronger than he is now.
Honestly my only other gripe with the ID is being low sanity (10-15) then being forced out of ego at the end of turn and starting next turn with -15, then winning no clashes
Honestly the people complaining about everything else are just insanely skill issue. THIS is his main (and only big one imo) issue. Changing it to be at 20 SP would've been enough. I think P Moon underestimated how terrible the SP system is.
For ishmael, you mention that its not that great if you do not roll first heads on second coin and mention that compared to any other healing egos. I'd like to argue about thtat statment a little cause of how surprisingly cheap the ego cost as well as it not consuming any gloom that other healing egos use, considering gloom is the most valuable resource for most of the best egos.
Don’t know if it was mentioned might be a reading moment but the way it’s worded is that he will also transform at 40 or more sp rather then being at 45 and you consume 20 sp you would be at 20-25 if you were 40-45.
I can't for the life of me do that "Librarian of History defeats X+ Abnormalities with a single Attack Skill" hard mode challenge and its the last thing I need. I've tried just using the new Sinclair, he works well, but he's always just shy of killing 3 at once. I've tried WAW EGOs like Yi Sang and Ishmael, doesn't work, they don't do enough damage to one shot, and if a single enemy is staggered at the end of the turn they are moat likely going to get replaced by the boss's hunger bs. Have any tips on what the hell I'm supposed to do here?
Here's one approach that can work, but takes a lot of luck and setup to pull off. If you attempt it, expect to spend a lot of time restarting for just the right set of enemy skills which won't immediately kill you. Once you get the ball rolling, it's not so bad, but getting to that point is the hard part. Deploy Magic Bullet Outis and no more than one other sinner (e.g. Pequod Ishmael), with the rest benched. This way, Outis gets more skill slots to set up an AoE nuke with her s3. Spend all the turns you need to gain 6 magic bullet buffs and lining up a series of s3 uses. Then chain together all your s3 uses, trying to avoid dealing any damage on Fairy Masses which would offset their health and lead to killing just one or two. Here are bench supports I recommend which can help increase Outis's damage or survivability: -LCB Don or Cinq Don -LCB Meursault or Blade Lineage Meursault -R Corp Heathcliff -R Corp Ishmael or Pequod Ishmael (LCB Ishmael also works, but loses value when >50% HP) -Mariachi Sinclair or BL Sinclair -G Corp Gregor Some other thoughts: -Durante's Pigritia can give Outis the speed advantage she needs to avoid clashing, allowing her to focus exclusively on s3 and other Pride skills or EGO uses. Useful on the turn you intend to AoE nuke. -You could also build around W Corp Ryoshu support to give Outis Charge Count on kill, then leverage R Corp Meursault to give Outis additional speed. This will ease the setup for the nuke, but also requires even more luck than it took to get to that point to begin with. -Fairy Queen and Fairy Mass endure Pride and Blunt Damage. We accept that with this approach and push through anyway.
@TFRevelation Found something that works to near perfection, actually. The UA-camr Snakesnipe just made a video about it. Same deal with Uptie IV level 45 Shootis, but make use of LCCB Ryoshu's support passive. One shot from heads-coin max bullet Shootis guaranteed kills all the fairy mass as far as I've seen. Just got that final one done now. Don't know if UA-cam is cool with links in comments, but if it is, his demonstration will be right below v
What I did was Maid Ryoshu combined with 4th Match Flame I wait for the turn where Fairy Queen only have 4 skill slot so that the other 4 is can target all of its skill slot so that Maid Ryoshu S2 and 4th Match Flame can target all of the mobs. If you want to know how the Aoe target all of the mob then you can search about the Aoe Manipulation trick on UA-cam or on Limbus Reddit.
Thing is Yi sang and Hong lu ARE default sinners. With this ID having gloom only teamwork needed is sloth. Having Nfaust a 000 is debatable. But we have Emitter as SP Ego too. So all players had acces to a stable form if you wanted to FOCUS on keeping the ego form But as most yuessed with the Bolatile passive sooner or later you run out of SP or the battle finish (longer battles usually dont go over 20-30 turns) So personaly thing some are unecesary buffs. Skill 1 no having SP on use and begin at 20 SP should have been enough.
@@blindeyedblightmain3565 No? At least Philipclair is on par with Nclair but definitely not better for general use. For a burn team, yes Philipclair will be better but that's his home anyway. I'll just wait and see but I definitely don't see Philipclair replacing NClair for general use but even with that he still has one competitor and it's Cinqlair.
Moo moo man im surprised you didnt go on an hour long rant at how broken wingbeat was. Sure the damage potential is hard to hit but upwards of 1400 damage from a single ego in a game where there is no penalty for restarting the fight will change speedrunning and railroads completely
To me philips clair is another case of opportunity cost. Now I have 2 choice for burn team: a crusader with a lot of single target damage and better at sp management, or an aoe burn damage with a team built around sp healing for him.
@@ryudhal why not? Sure he isn’t a pure burn id, and he needs nails to reach his full potential. But with his s1 and lots of burn from s2, why can’t we say he’s a burn id?
Its a bit silly that they balanced him around specific ID. You'd think they'd already have a system in place for testing, such as a selection of preset teams or instant randomization.
After looking at both sets of buffs (didn't even realize a second set came in) I think that the better balance would be using just the second set of buffs and dropping the first set. My issue with current Philclair is that after he transforms, unless he has his S3 or an ally healed his sp, he can't clash for ahit and can lose his form before doing anything cool with it. The second set of buffs reduces that early transformation frustration a lot by letting him start with much better rolls, and if you have his passive activated, even somewhat bad rolls can become slightly less damning. I'm pretty sure that first round of buffs was mainly a way to make it so that if you don't clash or failed a clash, you wouldn't be kicked out his transformation round one, so now that the early stage of it isn't nearly as bad as before, I think managing the sp loss on S1 and defense would be way more reasonable.
nah I can already see all versions of Erlking just mercilessly being beaten by auto winrate+philclair cause of his constant aoe and high rolls. This just proves again that all bosses eventually will be piece of cake regardless of nerfs because powercreep exists
"The third 000 Sinclair has arisen from the ashes." Hold on wait a minute 1: blade lineage sinclair 2: Nclair 3:Cinqlair 4:Philipclair The math isn't mathing right now.
@@dan_da5213 we're not so far lol, I've pulled 70 and 80 on Faust and Outis banners. Didn't get any ego or any ID, had to spark everything 😂 This totals over 300 for no ego too, though I got Philip. Better luck for us next time hahah
Ngl im kinda bummed about the Philip-clair buff (thought they intentionally made a neutral-SP ID, making it a fresh ID (2 negative-, rest positive-SP IDs)) Editing while watching the vid: ok the passive buff is better!
My Review: EGO rates outright lie to you. And, I am not even sure I will try to pull next Walpurgis, or maybe I will pull only for a char and if it doesn't come within a threshold, stop and shard next time.
Uhhh walpurgis IDs are exchangeable with crates just not during their debut walpurgis, just to sell them a bit more as limited, there's like absolutely no problem with this
@@kirotakahashi7173 "Absolutely no problem with this" Yes there is, you even have to wait for the next Walpurgis every time and save up crates again instead of being able to use them at any point. And don't even start me on the seasonal restrictions and how you have to wait to redeem an ID from a previous season. "PM is generous" my ass.
Bro this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen in gacha games, this ID I'm pretty sure is more game breaking than something like Acheron was for HSR. When I saw the kit tease I was already kinda afraid for what he would do for the game's balance, but after his release he actually felt almost balanced, like you had to think about your play when using him, kinda like Ahabmael but with bigger upsides and downsides. Then they buffed him in an emergency patch, which to be fair, the change to give SP when killing enemies is good imo, but removing sp drain on skill use is a horrible idea for the kind of playstyle they said they wanted him to have. Immediately alarm bells started ringing, because using him in the new MD he was already the best ID on my team and felt as impactful as BL Meursault, so buffing him in any way seemed like a bad idea. Imagine my surprise when I logged in a couple hours later to an apology from the big boss man himself alongside TWO massive extra buffs to mitigate the biggest weaknesses in his kit. Not flaws, mind you, weaknesses. God forbid players have to play/build around a super strong character's drawbacks, instead let's just make him self sufficient and be able to build and sustain a whole status on his own in AOE without using EGO. At this point I'm convinced the player base can keep bitching and get them to give out the character for free and make his S1 a 4 coin and remove the ramping SP loss (not even joking saw quite a few people complain about that part too). The only things I felt were bad about his design was the inability to gain SP on killing enemies lower leveled than him, and spending the fight getting from 10 to 45 SP, just for the fight to end immediately and send you back to 10. If they could refund a bit of sanity at encounter end I think it would be fine, alongside the sanity gain change. This is just absurd. Please let me know if I'm insane here, cause I certainly feel insane
it’s really boring that they’re mitigating his downsides to the point that you can slap him on any team with no repercussions. he’s already really good and buffing him to not care about his downsides is just pathetic, and it’s pathetic that people ever complained in the first place
@@inukuji9294 how am I preventing anyone's fun? I'm voicing a concern for the future balance of the game from my own perspective. If you really wanna go down that route, aren't the people begging for him to be buffed ruining my fun by making him too strong? I guess arguments like that never go both ways though. If you enjoy him trivialising the game and understand what that means for the future of the game's balance that's great for you, but if can you really blame me for having an opinion on it?
Idk, his rolls are average as well as his burn, the only breaking point being his damage via AoE on skill 2 and EGO-type skill 3, both in EGO form. I completely agree that he didn't need any buffs but he isn't nearly "game breaking" both in "unga-boonga strong IDs" that lack supports for him in terms of wrath and fast sanity regen and in burn teams where Shootis is much more necessary than him for limbillion extra burn damage. Doesn't even close to Acheron that wipes any wave with starrillions damage after just a couple def shreds.
@@suwoteAfter the buffs? Yes. Yes he is. Just see in one week. Before the buffs he DESPERATELY needed the change to his SP state when going out of EGO (cus rn he's completely UNUSABLE after a long enough EGO state.), but he was already ridiculous. Just not game breaking. Probably around NClair level maybe slightly better with a full Burn team. After the buffs? He has no weaknesses now. 0. Burn is useless. Compared to how powerful his clashes will be with a full burn team the negligible ONLY ONCE PER TURN burn damage will mean nothing. The burns are just there to enable his skills. Keep in mind i DO agree with most of his buffs (though just the SP thing would've been enough. Anything past that was just ridiculous bootlicking.), but now he's just completely without any weaknesses or flaws. They overcorrected. And the fact that they did this before fixing ACTUAL flaws in the game like how Burn and Rupture are just completely overshadowed by everything else? The garbage SP rng system and how they keep making fights reliant on it? It sets a terrible precedent. Which, mind you, Kim himself said so.
Let’s say for example a skill with single coin that roll 30 and a skill that have three coin that roll 10 10 10 = 30 The single coin only roll 1 time which will only deal 30 dmg( just for this example) While the multi coin will roll 3 time which will result in 10 + 20 + 30 = 60 dmg in total because of how the coin mechanics in the game works
The issue with needing that setup is that, ignoring its practicality outside of the dungeon format where sins carry over between fights, it’s way too slow to be useful for mob fights and Sinclair’s contribution to a fight is superfluous by the time he recovers enough SP to deal more consistently high damage. Of course, you can also use an EGO to speed up his SP recovery and have him be immediately useful, or hope you get lucky with an early 3x lust res chain, but he’s not exactly crucial for winning the fight in the first place in the other scenario, so working to make him useful more quickly with an EGO is just a needless waste of resources. The worse situation is when the enemy is already so battered by the time his EGO comes up that he can’t even clash or kill anyone to recover. His performance in boss battles is better, but he’s closer to being dead weight at the start of a fight, which is terrible for fights like the Bull where the clashes immediately come at you hard. Of course, making him more useful more quickly with an EGO isn’t a waste to do so here, but given how much of a drag he is otherwise in regular fights, the buff reducing his SP loss was much needed. And that’s all ignoring how he needs like 2 or 3 supports (and with the current burn team, Yi Sang and Hong Lu’s supports can only be fueled comfortably in dungeon-style content) just to support him alone, which is rather constricting for burn team comps, especially since Sinclair being able to apply burn count on an AoE was something burn teams were sorely in need of outside of MD.
@@KeiosKod I disagree, although he is weak on normal encounters (cant chose the best clash for him) bc he cant activate his ego, he is not weak in non-mirror dungeon format. The problem is mostly his S1, so if you got 2 S1 in the first round you are fkd, cause that skill cannot clash, but if you get his S2 then he can clash very well. In my experience you can achieve EGO form turn 3 (45sp on turn 2) if you get s2 on turn 1. Though after that he can get a little hard to maintain unless you got to activate base yi sang. Also if it is a boss and you stagger him say bye bye to sanity. So I think his only problem is not being able to use some yi sang ID in field and being inconsistent on short formats (also his S1 cant clash in normal form).
My take with the Philclair buffs: 1. The sanity change on kill for him is MASSIVE. 2. -SP removal on s1 is good dont know about his defense skill 3. Passive change from Res to owned is really really weird coz you wanna run him in a burn team anyway and wrath is the least of your worries. I guess for solo shenanigans. 4. They want him to work in general team too by making him just flat out OP and I know that people will say that he's a LIMITED CHARACTER "WHY HE NO MAKE ME NOT USE BRAIN AND CLICK FUNNY WR BUTTON HUWEHWE". GOD FORBID PEOPLE ACTUALLY READ(I don't) what he does and what he wants to do instead of UNGA BUNGA all the way. He practically has almost no downside to him which is fucked up imo. I just like when a unit has flaws that you have to play around. 5. Kinda not sure about the transformation conditions for him. My only nitpick is that if a fight ends with him at 45 sp, then the next fight will get him to 10 sp and winning clash without his conditionals on is painful. Now he'll get a buff that'll just consume 20 sp so at most he'll get 25 sp to work on which is a very good change. Maybe I'm crazy ya'll tell me
Philip was already really strong, complainers are just gachabrains that need new thing to be bigger numbers and more braindeadd so they can play the game less
... it doesn’t feel that way... in fact, this management of Suncliffe lovers... literally why would I take Philip, who is more difficult to implement and gives approximately the same result as the same Nclair, who is easier to implement...
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KJH... literally Telling playerbase.. "if you want someone to blame... Just blame me. not my employees".
imo kinda based behaviour (or at least a step in the right direction)
Director GOAT Ji Hoon literally putting himself out there to tank any potential backlash. Holy, we need more people like him for our games.
Honestly it would be nice if he was standing behind his original vision some more. Second wave of buffs were unnecessary as frick, especially removing resonance from the passive. Now Philclair is just a stronger Nclair.
@@blindeyedblightmain3565Even outside of burn team? I played his 1st version and it was pretty bad, straight up dying and losing clash in auto in F1 (prequad village) MD, with Nfaust, base Yisang/honglu supporting his ass AND in a burn team all ut4 and lvl45. Yeah it was auto + prequad but bruh it was F1. I was up against silt current final boss as well and oh boyyyy he is a deadweight there.
2nd buff maybe too much I agree but with this much team restriction. Boss restriction. My limbillionth burn ut4 EGOs. Ut4 burn team. I do expect smth more than “alright I guess”
@@N01R84 besides, the Walpurgis ids are made to be op to compensate for the fact that you can’t shard them on launch
@@blindeyedblightmain3565 Positive NClair 🗣️🔥🔥🔥
@@blindeyedblightmain3565 nigga stfu and be happy the devs actually listen unlike other games where shit units will never get buffed or even worst nerf everything but buffs nothing, so don't give us the "unnecessary" bs
Kim Ji Hoon with the MASSIVE Aggro buff to protect his dps
"Hello. This is Kim Jihoon. Our design intent with Dawn Office Fixer Sinclair was to make an interesting ID that required intelligent SP management and careful teambuilding, but during the testing phase we had forgotten our target audience's staggering rates of illiteracy. As an apology, we have buffed Dawn Office Fixer Sinclair so hard that he will fill out your tax forms for you with his Skill 2, and I will personally deliver it to your country's local office. We apologize for any inconvenience."
Based and true
Straight up wrong
He was unironically horrible before the buffs though. His s1 and 2 only roll average with ego active, and below with out, assuming he rolls all heads, but due to his insane ap loss, he has horrible consistency issues, so he can't even roll average without wrath res for his passive. Outside of his s3, his clashing is just average, and is mad terrible by a horrible lack of consistency. Why would I use Philip when I could use another ID capable of rolling 11 on s1 and 16 on s2 (of which there are alot) without constantly losing sp?
I ran him in my first MD4 at first priority on a Liu team. He only beat the 00 IDs.
@@gergerplaychannel DISTORTDISTORTDISTORTDISTORTDISTORTDISTORT hwuh who said that DISTORTDISTORTDISTORTDISTORT
Imagine doing a solo with Phillip Sinclair and he just unstagger your stagger.
The absolute jawdrop i had when my wingbeat hit for 1400
bro me too i was testing my wingbeat for the first time and didnt expect that MASSIVE dmg 😂
Luck is a skill I guess.
@@NightOfTheRavensluck correlates with skill
-tingtang hong lu
just getting even a single re-roll on wingbeat, makes it do more raw damage than other ego. that's not even including the gluttony fragility status it inflicts. Its 100% going to be the best damage ego for single target enemies. Its less a general use ego, since its clash is pretty bad. But when an enemy is staggered and you have a 45 sanity Ishmael with no good nuking skills. That's the best time to use it
Can’t wait for the railroad runs where you take turns off a boss by Quick suppression and 5 hit wingbeat.
@@joeynebergall8338 There are clips of people one shotting Clam after having Quick Suppression for the Fragile
You're underestimating Wingbeat a LOT: Even with just one reuse it's already more damage on a single target than nearly any other EGO, and it's surprisingly reliable to get more hits and even more absurd damage. It's not a clash-winner, but it's only one of her EGO: She can just use other stuff for clashes. This thing inflicts absolutely stupendous numbers.
easy 500-600 damage in my experience (i dont have the ego im borrowing it from support sadge)
Yeah, on a alright roll youre dealing upwards of 200 damage on one target, plus a full heal on ishmael. Its kinda fucking insane.
@@knifedude4195Not just heal on Ishmael, it also heals teammate if healing is excessive. Plus the passive is good.
its insane when use wingbeat at staggered boss
I feel like Skintightmael No. 2 is for staggered targets akin to how Fairy Fest works in LoboCorp/LoR.
You are really underselling wingbeat. The low and high rolls do exist, but youre more likely going to hit 3-4 times. The glutony fragile compounds the damags, and 3+7+7+7 is a fantastic damage line. 100% going to be a go to execute or maybe even on demand quick suppression esq skill in rupture, since they have a good amount of glutony as is.
Or, you never hit heads and do a whopping 6 damage.
@@Shadow6OOLuck correlates with skill smh smh
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"You got some coin power" ah yes, 25 of it in total (12 from base, 13 from conditional)
Then second coin of wingbeat can be rerolled 5 times, which means 6 gluttony fragility, even more healing, and a 7 coin ego that rolls 52. It's so busted holy.
I could imagine wingbeat getting absolutely insane if we get more sp support passives like butler faust, where you recover sp on hit on enemies with sinking. Maybe like a similar support passive for bleed teams.
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I've gotten to play Philip Sinclair for a little bit so far and he feels really strong. I didn't know he was going to get a buff, so I look forward to him being even stronger than he is now.
Honestly my only other gripe with the ID is being low sanity (10-15) then being forced out of ego at the end of turn and starting next turn with -15, then winning no clashes
Honestly the people complaining about everything else are just insanely skill issue. THIS is his main (and only big one imo) issue. Changing it to be at 20 SP would've been enough. I think P Moon underestimated how terrible the SP system is.
I had some doubs about wingbeat when i saw that it is 1 attack weight, but its ridiculous how much damage it can do
Im able to hit 600 damage with wingbeat.. its literally gacha ego... The dopamine is truly delightful experience lol.
they are locking IN
For ishmael, you mention that its not that great if you do not roll first heads on second coin and mention that compared to any other healing egos. I'd like to argue about thtat statment a little cause of how surprisingly cheap the ego cost as well as it not consuming any gloom that other healing egos use, considering gloom is the most valuable resource for most of the best egos.
now he is insane
While the red shoes ego is good for bleed I can’t make myself spend a possible 100 pulls to reach pity for it. I think I’ll have to wait it out.
Think youll need to do testing for wingbeat
Don’t know if it was mentioned might be a reading moment but the way it’s worded is that he will also transform at 40 or more sp rather then being at 45 and you consume 20 sp you would be at 20-25 if you were 40-45.
nah but hitting 7 coins on wingbeat just scratches the itch (plus u can remedy the sp loss per coin a little bit with butler faust)
Wingbeat odds to roll all head on full sp is roughly 5%. 50% with faith.
Based director
I can't for the life of me do that "Librarian of History defeats X+ Abnormalities with a single Attack Skill" hard mode challenge and its the last thing I need. I've tried just using the new Sinclair, he works well, but he's always just shy of killing 3 at once. I've tried WAW EGOs like Yi Sang and Ishmael, doesn't work, they don't do enough damage to one shot, and if a single enemy is staggered at the end of the turn they are moat likely going to get replaced by the boss's hunger bs. Have any tips on what the hell I'm supposed to do here?
Here's one approach that can work, but takes a lot of luck and setup to pull off. If you attempt it, expect to spend a lot of time restarting for just the right set of enemy skills which won't immediately kill you. Once you get the ball rolling, it's not so bad, but getting to that point is the hard part.
Deploy Magic Bullet Outis and no more than one other sinner (e.g. Pequod Ishmael), with the rest benched. This way, Outis gets more skill slots to set up an AoE nuke with her s3. Spend all the turns you need to gain 6 magic bullet buffs and lining up a series of s3 uses. Then chain together all your s3 uses, trying to avoid dealing any damage on Fairy Masses which would offset their health and lead to killing just one or two.
Here are bench supports I recommend which can help increase Outis's damage or survivability:
-LCB Don or Cinq Don
-LCB Meursault or Blade Lineage Meursault
-R Corp Heathcliff
-R Corp Ishmael or Pequod Ishmael (LCB Ishmael also works, but loses value when >50% HP)
-Mariachi Sinclair or BL Sinclair
-G Corp Gregor
Some other thoughts:
-Durante's Pigritia can give Outis the speed advantage she needs to avoid clashing, allowing her to focus exclusively on s3 and other Pride skills or EGO uses. Useful on the turn you intend to AoE nuke.
-You could also build around W Corp Ryoshu support to give Outis Charge Count on kill, then leverage R Corp Meursault to give Outis additional speed. This will ease the setup for the nuke, but also requires even more luck than it took to get to that point to begin with.
-Fairy Queen and Fairy Mass endure Pride and Blunt Damage. We accept that with this approach and push through anyway.
@TFRevelation Found something that works to near perfection, actually. The UA-camr Snakesnipe just made a video about it. Same deal with Uptie IV level 45 Shootis, but make use of LCCB Ryoshu's support passive. One shot from heads-coin max bullet Shootis guaranteed kills all the fairy mass as far as I've seen. Just got that final one done now.
Don't know if UA-cam is cool with links in comments, but if it is, his demonstration will be right below v
ua-cam.com/video/Fp20kghEqfE/v-deo.htmlsi=hb3zUaAbQm4uO8ub
What I did was Maid Ryoshu combined with 4th Match Flame
I wait for the turn where Fairy Queen only have 4 skill slot so that the other 4 is can target all of its skill slot so that Maid Ryoshu S2 and 4th Match Flame can target all of the mobs. If you want to know how the Aoe target all of the mob then you can search about the Aoe Manipulation trick on UA-cam or on Limbus Reddit.
Thing is Yi sang and Hong lu ARE default sinners.
With this ID having gloom only teamwork needed is sloth.
Having Nfaust a 000 is debatable.
But we have Emitter as SP Ego too.
So all players had acces to a stable form if you wanted to FOCUS on keeping the ego form
But as most yuessed with the Bolatile passive sooner or later you run out of SP or the battle finish (longer battles usually dont go over 20-30 turns)
So personaly thing some are unecesary buffs.
Skill 1 no having SP on use and begin at 20 SP should have been enough.
The first wave of buffs was enough, second one is a complete overkill. Now Philclair is just a better Nclair.
Maybe, but i feel that walpurgis id's should be powerful since it's the closest thing we have to truly limited units
imo even hong lu is debatable, he adds just a bit of consistency.
@@blindeyedblightmain3565 No? At least Philipclair is on par with Nclair but definitely not better for general use. For a burn team, yes Philipclair will be better but that's his home anyway. I'll just wait and see but I definitely don't see Philipclair replacing NClair for general use but even with that he still has one competitor and it's Cinqlair.
Might be time to finally throw a bleed team together.
In mirror dungeon I got his S3 volatile state damage do 800+ damage I enjoy him way to much
Moo moo man im surprised you didnt go on an hour long rant at how broken wingbeat was. Sure the damage potential is hard to hit but upwards of 1400 damage from a single ego in a game where there is no penalty for restarting the fight will change speedrunning and railroads completely
It's because I didn't hit.
You mean make the resetting bullshit people had to do even more lopsided and exacerbated? Lol
@@ryudhal I didn't say it was a good thing :cry:
To me philips clair is another case of opportunity cost. Now I have 2 choice for burn team: a crusader with a lot of single target damage and better at sp management, or an aoe burn damage with a team built around sp healing for him.
N Sinclair is NOT a Burn ID for a Burn team.
@@ryudhal why not? Sure he isn’t a pure burn id, and he needs nails to reach his full potential. But with his s1 and lots of burn from s2, why can’t we say he’s a burn id?
I have a lot of trouble keeping Ncrair lower on sanity
For the teams could you show the egos they have on too?
Its a bit silly that they balanced him around specific ID. You'd think they'd already have a system in place for testing, such as a selection of preset teams or instant randomization.
Don't underestimate sanguine desire corrosion
a 30 rolling 7 weight skill that applies 6/3 bleed is still quite good on the lustium team
After looking at both sets of buffs (didn't even realize a second set came in) I think that the better balance would be using just the second set of buffs and dropping the first set. My issue with current Philclair is that after he transforms, unless he has his S3 or an ally healed his sp, he can't clash for ahit and can lose his form before doing anything cool with it. The second set of buffs reduces that early transformation frustration a lot by letting him start with much better rolls, and if you have his passive activated, even somewhat bad rolls can become slightly less damning.
I'm pretty sure that first round of buffs was mainly a way to make it so that if you don't clash or failed a clash, you wouldn't be kicked out his transformation round one, so now that the early stage of it isn't nearly as bad as before, I think managing the sp loss on S1 and defense would be way more reasonable.
nah I can already see all versions of Erlking just mercilessly being beaten by auto winrate+philclair cause of his constant aoe and high rolls.
This just proves again that all bosses eventually will be piece of cake regardless of nerfs because powercreep exists
At least they try to not make it that power creep and balancing them with team comps and all that
14:26 Breed team
"The third 000 Sinclair has arisen from the ashes."
Hold on wait a minute
1: blade lineage sinclair
2: Nclair
3:Cinqlair
4:Philipclair
The math isn't mathing right now.
Blade sinclair skills aren't the best, with the other 3 being able to deal insane damage
@@jaimegonzalezjr2169 it’s still a 000 id. Might not have the skills befitting of one but it still is one
@thehighkid643 True but compare to the other sinclair 3 stars IDs bladeclair is by far the weakest of the three and pretty much forgettable
I KNEEL
I am curious. What is your bleed team? My current one runs a mix of bleed envy.
Rip my 160 pulls and not a single ego 😔
160? Rookie numbers kek
@@dan_da5213Rookie numbers? Then I guess I'm dirt
I wish you the best of luck for the ego's
@@jaimegonzalezjr2169 nah im just taking jabs at myself haha. 330 pulls for my first WP EGO, kill me pls
@@dan_da5213 we're not so far lol, I've pulled 70 and 80 on Faust and Outis banners. Didn't get any ego or any ID, had to spark everything 😂 This totals over 300 for no ego too, though I got Philip. Better luck for us next time hahah
Don't believe Faith works with wingbeat. You only get the SP Regen at the next turn start, not after rolling +coin
Ngl im kinda bummed about the Philip-clair buff (thought they intentionally made a neutral-SP ID, making it a fresh ID (2 negative-, rest positive-SP IDs))
Editing while watching the vid: ok the passive buff is better!
My Review:
EGO rates outright lie to you.
And, I am not even sure I will try to pull next Walpurgis, or maybe I will pull only for a char and if it doesn't come within a threshold, stop and shard next time.
They forgot to fix R corp heathcliff ammo waste 2 then 1
Now, if only Walpurgis IDs would finally be allowed to be redeemed with crates, or if "ideality" requirement would be reduced to 100.
Uhhh walpurgis IDs are exchangeable with crates just not during their debut walpurgis, just to sell them a bit more as limited, there's like absolutely no problem with this
@@kirotakahashi7173 "Absolutely no problem with this" Yes there is, you even have to wait for the next Walpurgis every time and save up crates again instead of being able to use them at any point. And don't even start me on the seasonal restrictions and how you have to wait to redeem an ID from a previous season. "PM is generous" my ass.
Just use land of illusion before using wingbeat lol
i got sinclair and molar office announcers but im sad i didnt get any of the egos after 120 pulls
I got the WAW ego, then sinclair, then molar announcers, I got multiple 3 stars but only one was the sinclair ID after 70 rolls
Bro this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen in gacha games, this ID I'm pretty sure is more game breaking than something like Acheron was for HSR. When I saw the kit tease I was already kinda afraid for what he would do for the game's balance, but after his release he actually felt almost balanced, like you had to think about your play when using him, kinda like Ahabmael but with bigger upsides and downsides. Then they buffed him in an emergency patch, which to be fair, the change to give SP when killing enemies is good imo, but removing sp drain on skill use is a horrible idea for the kind of playstyle they said they wanted him to have. Immediately alarm bells started ringing, because using him in the new MD he was already the best ID on my team and felt as impactful as BL Meursault, so buffing him in any way seemed like a bad idea. Imagine my surprise when I logged in a couple hours later to an apology from the big boss man himself alongside TWO massive extra buffs to mitigate the biggest weaknesses in his kit. Not flaws, mind you, weaknesses. God forbid players have to play/build around a super strong character's drawbacks, instead let's just make him self sufficient and be able to build and sustain a whole status on his own in AOE without using EGO. At this point I'm convinced the player base can keep bitching and get them to give out the character for free and make his S1 a 4 coin and remove the ramping SP loss (not even joking saw quite a few people complain about that part too). The only things I felt were bad about his design was the inability to gain SP on killing enemies lower leveled than him, and spending the fight getting from 10 to 45 SP, just for the fight to end immediately and send you back to 10. If they could refund a bit of sanity at encounter end I think it would be fine, alongside the sanity gain change. This is just absurd. Please let me know if I'm insane here, cause I certainly feel insane
it’s really boring that they’re mitigating his downsides to the point that you can slap him on any team with no repercussions. he’s already really good and buffing him to not care about his downsides is just pathetic, and it’s pathetic that people ever complained in the first place
Its a pve game? Can you 2 just let people have fun lol
@@inukuji9294 how am I preventing anyone's fun? I'm voicing a concern for the future balance of the game from my own perspective. If you really wanna go down that route, aren't the people begging for him to be buffed ruining my fun by making him too strong? I guess arguments like that never go both ways though. If you enjoy him trivialising the game and understand what that means for the future of the game's balance that's great for you, but if can you really blame me for having an opinion on it?
Idk, his rolls are average as well as his burn, the only breaking point being his damage via AoE on skill 2 and EGO-type skill 3, both in EGO form. I completely agree that he didn't need any buffs but he isn't nearly "game breaking" both in "unga-boonga strong IDs" that lack supports for him in terms of wrath and fast sanity regen and in burn teams where Shootis is much more necessary than him for limbillion extra burn damage. Doesn't even close to Acheron that wipes any wave with starrillions damage after just a couple def shreds.
@@suwoteAfter the buffs? Yes. Yes he is. Just see in one week. Before the buffs he DESPERATELY needed the change to his SP state when going out of EGO (cus rn he's completely UNUSABLE after a long enough EGO state.), but he was already ridiculous. Just not game breaking. Probably around NClair level maybe slightly better with a full Burn team. After the buffs? He has no weaknesses now. 0.
Burn is useless. Compared to how powerful his clashes will be with a full burn team the negligible ONLY ONCE PER TURN burn damage will mean nothing. The burns are just there to enable his skills.
Keep in mind i DO agree with most of his buffs (though just the SP thing would've been enough. Anything past that was just ridiculous bootlicking.), but now he's just completely without any weaknesses or flaws. They overcorrected. And the fact that they did this before fixing ACTUAL flaws in the game like how Burn and Rupture are just completely overshadowed by everything else? The garbage SP rng system and how they keep making fights reliant on it? It sets a terrible precedent. Which, mind you, Kim himself said so.
why multi coin skills deals more damage than single?i know the fact but never understand why
Let’s say for example a skill with single coin that roll 30 and a skill that have three coin that roll 10 10 10 = 30
The single coin only roll 1 time which will only deal 30 dmg( just for this example)
While the multi coin will roll 3 time which will result in 10 + 20 + 30 = 60 dmg in total because of how the coin mechanics in the game works
ohh,i see now
TY
I dont even understand why philpclair got buff but cool ig?
Too reliant on SP-healing support before
Now useable without them and consistent 45 with them
In short : He was mid and needed a whole ass team just for him to be all right.
He required an actual setup to be the crazy strong, now he's brainless and crazy strong. 🙄
The issue with needing that setup is that, ignoring its practicality outside of the dungeon format where sins carry over between fights, it’s way too slow to be useful for mob fights and Sinclair’s contribution to a fight is superfluous by the time he recovers enough SP to deal more consistently high damage. Of course, you can also use an EGO to speed up his SP recovery and have him be immediately useful, or hope you get lucky with an early 3x lust res chain, but he’s not exactly crucial for winning the fight in the first place in the other scenario, so working to make him useful more quickly with an EGO is just a needless waste of resources. The worse situation is when the enemy is already so battered by the time his EGO comes up that he can’t even clash or kill anyone to recover.
His performance in boss battles is better, but he’s closer to being dead weight at the start of a fight, which is terrible for fights like the Bull where the clashes immediately come at you hard. Of course, making him more useful more quickly with an EGO isn’t a waste to do so here, but given how much of a drag he is otherwise in regular fights, the buff reducing his SP loss was much needed.
And that’s all ignoring how he needs like 2 or 3 supports (and with the current burn team, Yi Sang and Hong Lu’s supports can only be fueled comfortably in dungeon-style content) just to support him alone, which is rather constricting for burn team comps, especially since Sinclair being able to apply burn count on an AoE was something burn teams were sorely in need of outside of MD.
@@KeiosKod I disagree, although he is weak on normal encounters (cant chose the best clash for him) bc he cant activate his ego, he is not weak in non-mirror dungeon format.
The problem is mostly his S1, so if you got 2 S1 in the first round you are fkd, cause that skill cannot clash, but if you get his S2 then he can clash very well. In my experience you can achieve EGO form turn 3 (45sp on turn 2) if you get s2 on turn 1.
Though after that he can get a little hard to maintain unless you got to activate base yi sang. Also if it is a boss and you stagger him say bye bye to sanity.
So I think his only problem is not being able to use some yi sang ID in field and being inconsistent on short formats (also his S1 cant clash in normal form).
My take with the Philclair buffs:
1. The sanity change on kill for him is MASSIVE.
2. -SP removal on s1 is good dont know about his defense skill
3. Passive change from Res to owned is really really weird coz you wanna run him in a burn team anyway and wrath is the least of your worries. I guess for solo shenanigans.
4. They want him to work in general team too by making him just flat out OP and I know that people will say that he's a LIMITED CHARACTER "WHY HE NO MAKE ME NOT USE BRAIN AND CLICK FUNNY WR BUTTON HUWEHWE". GOD FORBID PEOPLE ACTUALLY READ(I don't) what he does and what he wants to do instead of UNGA BUNGA all the way. He practically has almost no downside to him which is fucked up imo. I just like when a unit has flaws that you have to play around.
5. Kinda not sure about the transformation conditions for him. My only nitpick is that if a fight ends with him at 45 sp, then the next fight will get him to 10 sp and winning clash without his conditionals on is painful. Now he'll get a buff that'll just consume 20 sp so at most he'll get 25 sp to work on which is a very good change.
Maybe I'm crazy ya'll tell me
even the first buff was unnecessary, he was kinda busted in his team. Now he's just silly
Man, changing sinclair’s passive from resonance to owned makes him so much less interesting. Thanks, gacha players.
Philip was already really strong, complainers are just gachabrains that need new thing to be bigger numbers and more braindeadd so they can play the game less
... it doesn’t feel that way... in fact, this management of Suncliffe lovers... literally why would I take Philip, who is more difficult to implement and gives approximately the same result as the same Nclair, who is easier to implement...