Final Cut Pro 11: Why now?

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  • @trevorjmello.
    @trevorjmello. 2 місяці тому +103

    Apple please make Motion equivalent to After Effects! I want to cancel my Adobe subscription!

    • @Nattodayy
      @Nattodayy 2 місяці тому +10

      Praying for a Motion 6 man. But at the same time, I have so many plugins for AE at this point, I don’t think Motion could catch up, even if Apple really wanted it to.
      What I think would be better at this point would be for Apple to incorporate full Motion into Final Cut. Give me a full keyframe editor, or behaviors control, or even compound clips that work like M5s folders.

    • @jessejayphotography
      @jessejayphotography 2 місяці тому +10

      Move to Resolve and drop Adobe.

    • @TwistedShrapnel
      @TwistedShrapnel 2 місяці тому +1

      imagine if they revived Shake....

    • @himynameisryan
      @himynameisryan 2 місяці тому +1

      I feel like AE and motion are for very different use cases

    • @himynameisryan
      @himynameisryan 2 місяці тому

      @@jessejayphotographyswitching from premiere to resolve 🗿
      Switching from Final Cut Pro to resolve 🤡

  • @alex_pasquini
    @alex_pasquini 2 місяці тому +18

    My production company (5 person) is making the switch over to DaVinci Resolve currently after many years (I’ve personally been using FCPX since its launch). The Color controls, Fairlight, Fusion and collaborative workflow possibilities are superior. This 11 update for sure has me raising an eyebrow though. It feels too little too late but I’m definitely going to give these new features a trial run and see how it stacks up.

    • @stalman
      @stalman  2 місяці тому +6

      There’s a lot of people in your boat, Resolve is extremely tempting and Final Cut really has their work cut out for them

    • @joachimiseni6428
      @joachimiseni6428 2 місяці тому +1

      I am also tempted everyday to make the switch and here and there I am learning Resolve on the side. But sometimes its the little things that let me stay there. Tiny example I recently had: I tried some Equalizier in the Fairlight Page and compared to the awesome Channel EQ in Logic and Final Cut it felt really weird and slow to use. Or that you cannot do multiple in and out points with favourites. Than the mess with tha Automatic Track Selector which feels compared to the Magnetic Timeline like a late 90s feature to me. This stuff keeps me there. The problem is that Apple doesnt offer a 1Stop production solution like DaVinci. Some stuff u simply cannot get done without relying on other Apps. And Apple Motion didnt even get the new Version treatment this time.
      But also I have to acknowledge, that in the last 12 months several cool features came to Final Cut. There were Scrolling Timelines, AI Color Correction and Slow Motion(both work pretty well) and now this Magnetic Mask and Auto Captions plus many more tiny features. They are actively making the App better lately. Compare this from 10.5 to 10.6 releases were every Update mostly only was that it works now with Apple Silicon.
      If they keep this pace in 1-2 years it will be very amazing and competitive again. I will try to stick to it.
      Also they announced that BRAW should be possible soon within FCP which is also an indication that they listen.

    • @TheJ_G
      @TheJ_G 2 місяці тому

      @@joachimiseni6428I literally just sold off my BRAW only camera because I hated all the work arounds I had to do to use it FCPX and I just don’t like working in Davinci; even though I recognize it’s more feature-rich. If they really are brining in BRAW support that will tempt me back to blackmagic. I just seem to be a ride or die Final Cut user these days after more than a decade of leaning on it.

    • @ShapeofLight_PiotrStefaniak
      @ShapeofLight_PiotrStefaniak 2 місяці тому

      @@joachimiseni6428 I've tried Resolve several times...but I just can't. I know it's far superior in terms of colour control and control in general, but the workflow, no, I just can't stand it. And as you've said, FCP is just simple, working and with those new updates, even better

    • @RamasArrow
      @RamasArrow 2 місяці тому

      @@joachimiseni6428 Well said. With a few more pro features, FCPX can be a formidable, especially as a pure editor.

  • @bloodswarms
    @bloodswarms 2 місяці тому +3

    The slip, calling the Apple implementation by the Davinci Resolve name for the same feature, was wonderful. 😉
    I find it hard to believe that doing basic edits in Final Cut is faster than doing basic edits in Resolve, or anything else. I edit in Resolve really quickly.
    One of the other things that made feel like this was just an Apple Ad was the mention of the transcription speed. Transcribing audio is fast on virtually everything. Resolve, or even my budget Pixel 7a transcribes audio almost instantly. Seems like a wild thing to be impressed by in 2024.
    The CapCut comment was spot on. Apple is so big now; they literally forget about entire product lines they have. Hopefully they'll start to do better.

    • @stalman
      @stalman  2 місяці тому

      Yeah, you got me 😅

  • @krz909_exe
    @krz909_exe 2 місяці тому +2

    The magnetic timeline is one of the key features of FCP. FCPX was a nightmare, I stayed a long long time af FCP7... Since May 2023 ;) it was mature enough for me :) the rest is history :)

  • @ClassicMotorFilms
    @ClassicMotorFilms 2 місяці тому +8

    If Apple is looking for acquisitions, getting Topaz into the fold would be the thing to send a really strong signal and could save a lot of time to market. IMO

    • @stalman
      @stalman  2 місяці тому +1

      True but they did also add their own AI slow mo. I think Apple wants to choose which of their feature are important and implement them themselves, although I think they have a long list more straightforward features that are needed first.

    • @ClassicMotorFilms
      @ClassicMotorFilms 2 місяці тому +1

      @ fixing slightly off focus on faces is a godsend. Not that I ever need that lol.

    • @jessejayphotography
      @jessejayphotography 2 місяці тому +1

      Agreed. They need to step up the development speed if they want to show they are serious.

  • @philipschwarz
    @philipschwarz 2 місяці тому

    Love the chat you had with Thomas! As a DOP/Editor myself, I'm especially curious about the nitty gritty nerdy workflow insights - maybe there's an opportunity for a future episode on that…

  • @DigitiFilms
    @DigitiFilms 2 місяці тому

    I enjoy working so fast in FCP, I am cutting a film right now. Using a M1 max studio editing Sony Fx3 &FX30 footage.

  • @SoulSearchingLG
    @SoulSearchingLG 2 місяці тому +1

    Enjoyed the convo and this is a great time (at least for me) to be sponsored by Riverside lol. I’ve had both Riverside and Descript’s plan options open for a couple of days. Not sure which way I want to go though. I do a solo podcast (interviews coming) but I really just want a way to quickly caption and create vertical clips. I’ve been doing it manually but I’m ready to spend a few bucks to make it easier.
    In relation to this specific episode, I’ve seen a few folks mention audio issues. On my end, there seems to be an aggressive noise gate. The shortest gaps have the audio completely stripped out. It’s a bit jarring. Not stopping me from listening, and it absolutely feels like a one off mistake or something. First time I’ve noticed with your pod.
    Either way, thanks for the convo. Love seeing what Apple is up to. Won’t be swapping away from my Premiere workflow, but I can’t wait to see what Apple does with the Pixelmator acquisition.

    • @stalman
      @stalman  2 місяці тому +1

      Yes the audio weirdness was their auto ducking and I won’t be using it again. I’ll just stick to a normal mix which works great

  • @SamHeine
    @SamHeine 2 місяці тому

    I'm new to FCP and Motion. I just couldn't stand paying for Adobe suite and CapCut any more. So far I love it.

  • @melgross
    @melgross 2 місяці тому +5

    I think, from what I’ve seen, is that at some point, Apple reoriented FCP away from movie and Tv show editing to the vastly larger creative audience in UA-cam, TickTock and other users of that type. So people who were looking back at the time when Apple came close to putting Avid out of business and backed down from that believe that FCP is no longer relevant. Maybe not in movie studios any longer, but Apple is pretty smart. Sell, or “rent” copies to millions, or even tens of millions of people, or sell to thousands or tens of thousands of people. The choice seems obvious. The features they’ve added the last few years and making it available to the iPad, is unquestionably aimed at creators, not big studios.

    • @JamesZhan
      @JamesZhan 2 місяці тому

      And I'm one of those people where the revamp of FCP in version X really made a huge impact. I used to dabble in video editing with Premiere (even edited music videos in it) but never really found video editing interesting nor did I ever even considered a career in video editing-well, one day I gave FCPX a try, and I was completely hooked.
      The entire interface just feels so much more straightforward and robust. With Premiere, Workspaces work so poorly. The saved layout would never be recalled consistently. The fact that you can undock panels and put them wherever you want sounds cool in theory, but in practice, I find myself getting really frustrated with it. FCPX's interface just feels so simple, so predictable, that I always know where everything is. And obviously this is just one of my many gripes with Premiere, but at the end of the day, I just didn't feel creative working in it.
      Then there's the magnetic timeline…absolutely game-changer. It makes video editing feels so fluid, so fun, like I'm an artist working on a canvas.
      So yeah, FCP got me into video editing. I couldn't get enough of it, and I'm now a full-time video editor working at a university, and I LOVE creating videos, but only in FCP.

  • @mikahina3909
    @mikahina3909 6 днів тому

    20:15 i think this is a really good point

  • @oddbirds8315
    @oddbirds8315 2 місяці тому +2

    Haha, that's the first thing I thought when I saw the announcement video.. that they stole Thomas way of presenting it. While in fact he got to do it for them! very cool!

  • @sergeylyubarsky8201
    @sergeylyubarsky8201 2 місяці тому +3

    We got Temu captions! Maybe two years from now, Apple will give us what CapCut did three years ago 🤣

  • @therubbscreative
    @therubbscreative 2 місяці тому +1

    This is where we can appreciate how powerful and advance Resolve is. Companies like Apple can’t compete with Blackmagic.

  • @HouseofRen
    @HouseofRen 2 місяці тому

    I was Final Cut since day one of release but hit a brick wall when trying to calibrate on edits at the start of the summer. Switch to resolve and after a few months I’m faster on resolve especially with the speed editor controller and micro color panel. I use rave about Final Cut and mag timeline. Resolve is just faster overall when putting together story driven wedding films

  • @ScottSullivanTV
    @ScottSullivanTV 2 місяці тому +7

    still no adjustment layers.......

    • @stalman
      @stalman  2 місяці тому +2

      Yeah, isn’t that weird? It must be a choice but I don’t get it

    • @HDBnB1
      @HDBnB1 2 місяці тому

      wdym? arent there adjustment layers in fxp?

    • @ScottSullivanTV
      @ScottSullivanTV 2 місяці тому

      @@HDBnB1 Neither version 10 or 11 of Final Cut Pro have adjustment layers.

    • @JamieSandel
      @JamieSandel 2 місяці тому

      @@HDBnB1you can make a custom title using motion that functions as an adjustment layer. But it’s hacky and shouldn’t be necessary

    • @jordanshipley448
      @jordanshipley448 2 місяці тому

      True. Thankfully MotionVFX has an Adjustment Layer title that's free.

  • @hawaiixtc
    @hawaiixtc 2 місяці тому

    Bloody Hell! I cant wait to try the new masking! Maybe put a surfer going down an escalator on Maui!

  • @ty-k6708
    @ty-k6708 18 днів тому

    The biggest issue for me was the magnetic timeline. If FCP had a traditional workflow like every single app out there, I'd be willing to give it a second chance.

    • @stalman
      @stalman  17 днів тому

      I get where you’re coming from but if it had a traditional workflow there would be no reason for it to exist. The magnetic timeline is the feature.

  • @Levi_Allen
    @Levi_Allen 2 місяці тому

    YESSSSS

  • @jking7519
    @jking7519 2 місяці тому +1

    Your guest’s video exhibited lip sync problems. Did Riverside malfunction?

    • @stalman
      @stalman  2 місяці тому

      Yes I do think it dropped signal here and there

  • @DotCostas
    @DotCostas 2 місяці тому +6

    This is a great demonstration of how AI tools DON'T work for editing and can't replace a human yet. The sound was just horrendous, I thought something was going wrong with my internet connection or my AirPods. The in-video ads were a welcome break for my ears.

    • @kinoromantic
      @kinoromantic 2 місяці тому

      They can't replace a human but they sure help. The amount of times I've cleaned up lavaliere scratch against clothes in Davinci Resolve can attest to that

    • @stalman
      @stalman  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for your feedback, but there’s no AI involved at any point of the audio. All it did was switch between cameras

    • @DCuerpoJr
      @DCuerpoJr 2 місяці тому

      Weird, I’m also listening on AirPods Pro and didn’t have any audio issues.

  • @afterworkio
    @afterworkio 8 днів тому

    Been using FCP since 2005.

  • @isaacbedford3644
    @isaacbedford3644 2 місяці тому +1

    Final Cut is definitely the fastest and most intuitive way to edit. Unfortunately, it's lack of recent development compared to Resovle and Premiere, and inferior worflows for audio, vfx, color, and collaborative workflows (compared to Resolve) still hinders it's progress in the NLE cold war. (It's definitley the sexiest looking NLE tho! (maybe a lil too sexy for the more techy crowd)).

    • @stalman
      @stalman  2 місяці тому +1

      I just hope this 11 rebrand means they want to get competitive again

  • @matthewTobrien
    @matthewTobrien 2 місяці тому +2

    Watching this as soon as I get back from taking the fam to see Trans-Siberian Orchestra (screen content edited in Final Cut Pro!)!

  • @mrivkinr
    @mrivkinr 2 місяці тому

    Can we change the captions language?
    For example change the Japanese to English?

  • @jking7519
    @jking7519 2 місяці тому

    What if Apple Intelligence is the game changer for Final Cut Pro, Motion, etc.?

  • @edjerle
    @edjerle 2 місяці тому +3

    Y’all….it’s 2024 and we still don’t have modular window orientation in FCP 😒

    • @JamieSandel
      @JamieSandel 2 місяці тому +1

      I JUST WANT TO USE THREE MONITORS PLEASEEE

    • @edjerle
      @edjerle 2 місяці тому

      @@JamieSandel ikr smh

  • @evindrews
    @evindrews 2 місяці тому +10

    I'm going to say it: these features are WAY too late and too little. After THIS LONG we basically get AI rotoscoping and.. transcription? Seriously? What about the endless quirks and workflow frustrations? The expensive plugins we have to use because the complete lack of modern tools? This is going to do nothing to keep people from moving to Resolve. The fact there isn't even adjustment layers is telling.

    • @stalman
      @stalman  2 місяці тому +4

      Yeah lack of adjustment is very weird and this won’t be enough to keep everyone. Hopefully the 11 signals that more is to come.

    • @JamieSandel
      @JamieSandel 2 місяці тому

      It’s like they know that all of us who care about adjustment layers have already done the motion title workaround and are like “yeah y’all got it” 🤪

  • @visual_chris
    @visual_chris 2 місяці тому +1

    I would not say that Final cut is falling into the consumer side anymore going forward.
    One word to explain this: "iMovie"

  • @Robroy333
    @Robroy333 2 місяці тому +1

    Magnetic mask is the same thing as Magic Mask Davinci Resolve has had for years. Also ducking, auto captions . Voice isolation….etc . Seems FCP is behind the game .

    • @stalman
      @stalman  2 місяці тому +2

      Yes it's been missing a lot of features ever since it was released and it drives FCP users crazy, so it's extremely exciting that they're finally here. But the actually editing is so much more efficient than Resolve that we don't want to switch.

    • @Robroy333
      @Robroy333 2 місяці тому

      @ stoped at fcp7 when it went to X. Premiere Pro then Davinci. And never looked back. 24 years editing experience. Davinci is very powerful and streamlined once you get used to it. I just downloaded the FCP trial version and it reminds me still of IMovie in the GUI and no where near DR 9.1 in my taste. But glad they are finally getting to it

  • @victordelacruz8440
    @victordelacruz8440 2 місяці тому

    Is Thomas on UA-cam?

  • @bigchoppabeats
    @bigchoppabeats 15 днів тому

    Davinci Resolve may have more features, but working in it is boring as hell. FCP is inspiring. In my opinion Apple did a great job with position of FCP. It's not for die-hard industry editors for sure, but for people who want to edit with fun and still be able to do a lot. I bet 90% of indie film makers and social media creators don't need even half of Resolve features.

  • @JamieSandel
    @JamieSandel 2 місяці тому +1

    All I want is a color space transform tool, guys. Please

    • @2424rocket
      @2424rocket 2 місяці тому +1

      Then learn resolve… It has the best color space in the world. Every Hollywood movie uses resolve for color if not for editing. Stop playing with this toy called Final Cut and challenge yourself, learn the real thing.

    • @stalman
      @stalman  2 місяці тому +1

      Sounds like you really love Resolve 👍 so do I but it doesn’t work for my clients needs
      Color management is my number one request for Final Cut, that’s where it feels the most behind

  • @victordelacruz8440
    @victordelacruz8440 2 місяці тому

    I was surprised theres no OpenColorIO or AES.

    • @stalman
      @stalman  2 місяці тому +1

      I wasn’t surprised but I was sad

  • @RS-Amsterdam
    @RS-Amsterdam 22 дні тому

    If you look close you see the Riverside hand in his mouth moving his lips 😂

  • @nshanstambolyan6201
    @nshanstambolyan6201 2 місяці тому +1

    I dont like how you cut your guest off so much. let him talk

  • @jessejayphotography
    @jessejayphotography 2 місяці тому

    Why is the development of FC so slow in the first place? Their pace is absolutely glacial compared to other apps and it seems for no good reason. The market is clearly there, they certainly know what people use and want in this space, they certainly have the money (considering they have 30% of their hands in every transaction in the App Store) to develop or buy out technologies to integrate.
    What gives?

    • @stalman
      @stalman  2 місяці тому

      It’s a small team. But obviously it should be bigger, I want them to be competitive with Resolve

  • @Csnumber1
    @Csnumber1 2 місяці тому

    Why!??? Why, do you position the notion that a full number of “upgrade” has to represent a “complete” “rebuild”, suggesting it actually needs other!?? You say Resolve has “what you want”… what!??? Coloring? Color Finale’ is fantastic!! So back to the “number”… “11” signifies, the evolution to the heavy use of ‘AI’ in the platform to complete historically time consuming tasks. And there are at least four ways to apply the Magnetic Mask. This topic or headline makes no sense as the naming of this new iteration of FCP, makes the number “11” make more sense than not!! I don’t want an “overhaul” of FCP… But let’s say they add live video recording and switching inside of FCP, it would deserve the Number “12”!

  • @ArrivingElsewhere
    @ArrivingElsewhere 2 місяці тому

    I love the new features but still can’t copy masks from one effect to another 😢

    • @stalman
      @stalman  2 місяці тому +1

      You can apply the mask to a duplicate layer and then add all the effects you want

  • @VALTECHSTUDIO
    @VALTECHSTUDIO 2 місяці тому

  • @djbakasan
    @djbakasan 2 місяці тому +2

    New viewer, but you keep talking over your guest :/ Not sure if there’s a lengthy delay with this guest or if it’s a common thing, but man, every time you talked over him it was like nails on a chalkboard to me.

    • @IdleDaydreamer
      @IdleDaydreamer 2 місяці тому

      OMG I had the frustration throughout, please let the guest finish speaking! You can see Thomas' reaction at 49:52 😂

  • @FoodTechLife
    @FoodTechLife 2 місяці тому +1

    Apple, the trillion dollar company that doesn’t have enough developers so it can dedicate them to one project. It feels like they jump from one thing to another. 🤔🙃

    • @stalman
      @stalman  2 місяці тому +1

      As far as I know, the Final Cut team stays on the project, it’s just a small team. Too small, obviously

    • @sideshowlol
      @sideshowlol 2 місяці тому

      @@stalman It is often the case that a small team of devs is more efficient and their output is less prone to bugs than code produced by larger teams. Also, writing code for Motion and FCP is non-trivial. Apple has not dropped the baton with these softwares but the competition is hotting up so it will be very interesting to see what the next version of Motion brings to the table.

  • @2424rocket
    @2424rocket 2 місяці тому +2

    You guys are funny, you're such fanboys. . Resolve is so much better than final cut. It’s a joke. Apple limits bit rate. Sometimes I need 16 bit when I’m really pushing it and when I’m using red cameras. You keep talking about speed as if that was The ultimate goal. Quality is much more important than speed. And I get paid by the hour so I’m not in any great hurry. You said resolve is intimidating… Yes, if you’re a simpleton. Otherwise challenge yourself and learn it and you will love it. Just about every major Hollywood movie goes through resolve… Nobody goes through Final cut! I know years ago final cut did not have audio tracks. Does it now? I want to put audio where I want it not where it wants it. .

    • @stalman
      @stalman  2 місяці тому +1

      If you took that long you’re probably not interested in understanding why an editor makes their choices. No one is telling you to leave Resolve

    • @DCuerpoJr
      @DCuerpoJr 2 місяці тому +1

      Final Cut Pro 10 (Now 11) has always had the ability to add and move around audio tracks.

    • @makemefeelweddings
      @makemefeelweddings 2 місяці тому

      Resolve, final cut, cap cut, all of them have their place. Not being able to see strengths and weaknesses on each one is just dumb. There are multiple users and multiple workflows. I film and edit weddings with Sony and now Fuji mirror less cameras. I Don't want or need the complexity of resolve. I want speed and fast workflow for 2h or more footage where favorites makes me 200% or more faster than you editing the same thing with resolve. If I was doing controlled stuff, feature film, commercials and scripted stuff, sure.. I'll go DaVinci resolve. But hey... Who am I. Just a wedding videographer that learned to edit 15 years ago in avid, Autodesk smoke and also did color work on DaVinci when it was just a color software on Linux. Ahahah

    • @genericuser7319
      @genericuser7319 2 місяці тому +1

      Those Hollywood movies you talk about are colored in Resolve but very few Hollywood films are cut in Resolve- Avid still reigns supreme in that world.

  • @bytesize_video
    @bytesize_video 2 місяці тому

    Capcut is $9.99 a month hardly prohibited unless you're really broke. FCP is $299 CapCut $99 work it out!

    • @stalman
      @stalman  2 місяці тому +1

      CapCut is $120 a year.Very reasonable for professional software but CalCut is definitely still consumer grade

  • @hellohogo
    @hellohogo 2 місяці тому

    This was super awkward ngl

  • @oospagheti
    @oospagheti 2 місяці тому +2

    Still looks like iMovie

    • @stalman
      @stalman  2 місяці тому +11

      Sounds like you haven’t edited in Final Cut

  • @brunosavoca
    @brunosavoca 2 місяці тому +1

    most of the videos, nice. this one, omg how boring!!!

    • @stalman
      @stalman  2 місяці тому +2

      Woah tough crowd