Adam makes the argument that Palestinians secretly don't agree with the government due to fear, but the majority of Palestinians abroad who don't have that fear of been shot say the same things. So it dose not line up.
Well to be fair, those living abroad has less reason to feel the actual issue presently on their own bodies, like the palestinians IN Gaza, since those in western countries protesting in favor of Hamas, aren't the ones having their emergency ressources spent by a terrorist organization, or having terrorists firing rockets from their homes, knowing that they will become targets for return fire. Those people abroad have a FAR easier time, distancing themselves from Hamas -- but in terms of the fear factor that you mean here, BUT also in terms of why they SHOULD hate Hamas.
Well we can see this in North Korea, most fear speaking out or are told to believe this is the best you are going to get. Same fore every country in the 1800s under a religious state had to follow through fear or indoctrination
The Treaty of Versailles after ww1 crippled Germany and is arguably the main reason it went insane. Hasan`s argument would put 100% of the blame of ww2 on the Allied forces. Germany was oppressed, so anything it does is the oppressers fault, right? It's very condescending to think people aren't responsible for their own (re)actions.
Crazy that Asmon got banned for this. He is in no way advocating for genocide, he’s just saying he doesn’t care that it’s happening. Which is a fine position to hold. Most people don’t care about most genocides that happen. Also our culture is objectively better than theirs so he’s not wrong on that either
The main way in which he messed up was making it sound like they all deserve to die, or at least leaving an opening for people to assume he means that. Other than that, saying our culture is superior and he doesn’t give a shit what happens on the other side of the planet is a mainstream view
@@swingingfordearlife getting a job and going to job to earn money and get a spouse and have children and follow daily laws is a mainstream view....your point?
Anyone who watches Asmon knows that he is coming from a place of apathy. He isn't advocating genocide, he literally just doesn't care. When he says "I don't care", he's not hoping they die, he's not hoping for *anything*. He honestly doesn't care, and won't be compelled to.
It was so fun watching Hasan trying to jump thru hoops to explain why it's ok for certain cultures to be huge -phobes(to the point of having a KOS attitude) while at the same time condemning "gamers" because they don't want woke politics stuffed into their games. He is truly the paragon of 2024 progressive values.
For real dude. These companies are blatantly removing it before selling it to other countries but ignore their home buyers wants. Scumbag behavior at it's finest.
Yea it's amazing to live in the progressive nanny state, we can't falter to ever use racial slurs in frustration since it's the root of all evil. Meanwhile, we have to pretend people who KOS have no agency due to material conditions.
Asmongold is too quick and smart. He only repeats debate bro tactics to bring things back to some emotional appeal so he can get an out. AG has an excellent memory (as do I and I can always notice when others do because of their recall on 20-30 year old events and news, or something someone said just yesterday, he pays attention and remembers passively) and regularly brings on grief chatters to let them argue. e.g. he's constantly dealing with the kind of people in Hassan's chat. He's also not audience captured and has managed to maintain a buffer between whatever his persona is and the audience because he doesn't fully commit to some specific content or politic. Like an anti-bullshit streamer that is consistently human, fair to a reasonable point, with hard limits and honest in his comments. I don't go looking online for content much anymore, I just see him react to it and he has good observations. Also if he's willing to pay for your government cheese, better him than me. I doubt Hassan donates extra on his tax return...
Mamluks were slave soldiers. And the Janissaries were the elite troops for the Ottoman Empire, they were children taken from the Balkans and raised to be slave soldiers. So pretty progressive 🙃
@@TheFatalcrest Hasan is a grifter, he can't be trusted with anything he says. That asmon never fact checked him on anything he said was the tru travesty.
Im mean, they were alot better in many ways when compared to medieval europe. But we dont hold medieval europe as good example of how to operate in the modern day. so bringing up the Ottomans as an example of how great the Islamic world was is always a hollow tactic.
It’d be easier to buy Adam’s point about the poll if there wasn’t all that footage directly following the October 7th attack of the streets full of people celebrating, praising god, and crying tears of joy over the many horrible things Hamas had just done. I was just watching a Frontline episode on PBS about the October 7th attack right before I started listening to this last night, and hearing someone talk about getting caught up in the joy of the event was just bizarre. It seems like the guy only really thought it was bad because of the blowback he knew would come from it.
@@SitchAndAdamShow That's just silly excuse to sign away any and all responsibility. The truth is. Some people and groups of people, large groups of people are evil, their core belief is evil and when they do get a chance they are likely to act on their evil ideas.
@luckyfk3452 The people you are describing are the fanatics, the ones who join up a terror group and directly do the killing. This group is the loud minority in every totalitarian society. Then we have the large disorganized majority of normal people who just want to live their day to day lives and don't really hold any political opinions whatsoever and just follow the crowd that is lead by the fanatics, because that's the norm which allows them to continue their normal lives and not attract attention to themselves.
@@luckyfk3452 Yeah! Strange how it's always this one specific religious group causing issues in literally every country they're allowed to be in, huh? But yeah just madness of crowds lol
1:00:26 Wait this completely destroys the "America is founded on racism" argument. American colonies existed under a tyrannical government, how could they know racism was wrong?
They are. Absolutely. The only ones who you can make an argument for _not_ being settlers, are the ones who are partially descended from “the Old Yishuv”, a.k.a. Palestinian Jews. However, even _those_ Israelis are _also_ partially descended from Zionist settler-colonists.
Look. Criticizing Islam is not Islamophobic any more than criticizing Israel is antisemitic. I can't stand the moral outrage of any group claiming victimhood to prevent rational discourse and civil dialog. It's like calling criticism of crt racism. It's a theme guys. And almost everyone embraces it when they want to limit free speech of rational dissent.
@@XanderFenikkusu defensive? That's a weird accusation. I'm calling out the dishonest people who use this tactic, especially the woke. But not just them. Who am defending against? Are you just trolling?
No. A phobia is an *irrational* fear of something. Islam's core tenant is to eliminate anything that is not Islamic. Fearing that and desiring to destroy it at nearly any cost is not irrational.
Greeks and Roman cultures allowed gay stuff long before the Ottoman Empire existed. and the reason why it "wasn't a problem" in Muslim countries is the same reason there "wasn't a problem" in the 1800s USA with gays.
I was going to say! Just because they didn’t pass a law about it doesn’t mean people didn’t take action against it! England didn’t ban slavery until quite recently, because it didn’t exist there, it wasn’t acceptable culturally and they just passed a law to solidify it despite not actually being a problem. You don’t have to outlaw gays if it’s always open season to hunt them down, it just adds to it when you pass a law against homosexuality.
I think you're right but it's also important to point out the gay stuff that the Greeks and Romans did allow was mostly the pedophiliac boy lover stuff of old men and children that were rejected from most of society.
@@henrikaugustsson4041 I know at least one American slave who went to Britain with his slave owner and there the Slave owner learned there’s no slavery in Britain. They went to court and the judge decided the “slave” is a free man in Britain, and can’t be forced to go back to America to live in slavery. So I guess they got rid of it before America. And apparently without a civil war. Impressive.
@@communistcomputergod6449 They indeed did. The reason America didn’t outlaw it sooner was because they needed the south to resist the British during the war of independence and they didn’t want to get on their wrong side by abolishing slavery just then, so it took a while longer than it should’ve, but it was on its way out even then.
It’s so clear Adam is miles away from asmons thinking on this situation. Asmon has plenty of understanding for the plight of the Palestinian people. He just does not believe the ideology of Hamas is equal to the western ideology.
This short section, from 12:40 - 19:00, is basically what Asmongold meant, but he didn't say it as eloquently as Sitch and Adam did. But this is 100% on the money. Reminds me why I used to sub and watch so much.
Pluralism. That's the ideology we're talking about. Not relativism. It's a tolerance for the exercise of freedoms protected in classical liberalism. The Hassan type denial of better and worse governance is a failure to recognize the tolerance enforced in classical liberalism.
I’d have to say my favorite point of the discussion was when Hasan compares the Houthi pirate to Ann Frank. I almost broke down at work when i heard that. Perfect comedy.
In the 50s under the Shah, homosexual activities were decriminalized and the Shah even hosted some kind of gay wedding, which was an event that triggered the Shah’s downfall
Not. He took the knee like 2sec later... I honestly liked him (at least his UA-cam presence), but this is yet another instance of him being cringe. He WOULD have been based IF he would have stood by this (While not simping for Israel either!)
@@Markunatoreh, but really, he didn’t. There’s nothing wrong with saying you don’t care if people with evil ideologies die is a perfectly valid stance.
I think confusion can arise from Sitch's inside-outside perspective because it varies so wildly in scale. You can easily call immigrants an outside threat, because they come from outside the country and the culture. But then with the civil war, the North was the outside threat to the South despite both being america (albeit with different cultures). Further, his example with university professors pushing progressive culture on younger generations, thats an 'outside threat' being perpetuated by american teachers IN American universities, sometimes in your very own state. What's next? My neighbour put up a sign for the opposite candidate, he's a threat trying to influence my children from outside my household! What you perceive as an outsider can vary so wildly, because it ultimately comes down to whatever is outside of yourself, your direct ideology. And so I think in that way, it's a bit useless if we allow the scale to fluctuate and the label of outsider to encroach further and further inward.
asmon caved this time. he always goes on and on about how he doesn't care what other think (to an off putting degree). and he apologized. so i hope he at least skips that future trend of his.
I followed Asmongold since like the beginning during the WoD and Legion days. I just wish he would play wow again. I don’t care as much about any of his react content these days.
@@jmanjman2685 As someone that played Wow from Vanilla his WoW content is terrible. It is just a guy that has groupies doing his work for him while getting all of the credit just min maxing everything. The funnest parts of WOW were not getting gear. They were getting sidetracked doing the dumbest things which Asmon has never been a part of. He has said time and time again that that stuff is gaa. Nostalgic for old game streams instead of being nostalgic for playing the game yourself is a toxic ideology. Nostalgia for what other people have done instead of what you did yourself.
You can be progressive without being woke. You just have to be a progressive that believes some cultures are inferior and others superior. This is the thing woke people are not allowed to believe.
@@SitchAndAdamShow I'm progressive and I'm wide awake.....but not woke, because I decide if I want to refer to a transgender person as "he" or "she". They and them only applies in plural form to 2 or more people, regardless of gender.
1:40:55 No this is how all the OTK people act when they talk to Hasan because the bridge between that whole friend group and hasan is a rickity rope bridge dangling above a canyon full of spiky rocks
The major truth no one wants to grapple with is that every late imperial government does. Ours are implicit for the moment but may become explicit before it all breaks apart
2:23:21 but is the problem there that they come from outside or that they cut in line? If we isolate those two things, people would absolutely have a problem with them cutting in line, but not necessarily with them coming from outside. It only makes them feel WORSE about them cutting in line because they are even less entitled than someone who was always there just trying to advance in the queue. Therefore, that still seems a matter of fairness, not outsider threat.
israel droped about 75 Kiloton of bombs in gaza in 11 months, reportedly (by gaza health authority which is run by hamas) killed 40,000 people with no distinguish between combatants or civilians. in Comparison the Hiroshima bomb blast instantly killed about 78,000 with a blast equal to 15 kiloton. If this is genocide than this is the most ineffective genocide in human history...
Add to this, the Arab Israeli population has only been going up over the decades, so Israel might be the single most incompetent genocidal regime in recorded history.
Regardless of the specifics I respect Asmon for coming out with a strong opinion on this. I had pegged him as the sort of guy that only gives shallow commentary while trying not to offend anyone.
For clarity asmongold is saying Palestine would engage in ending gays if they had the upper hand not the “west” per se. I started watching Asmongold cuz reminds me of a friend from high school who had a bald spot and played Diablo and I’m lonely
1:24:46 xD i think that was an episode of The Blacklist. A middle eastern underworld big wig was under constant attack and threat from assailants, and the person behind itvwas their daughter...who was previously their son, but was *forced* to transition to prevent any shame from coming to his name and organization for having a gay son. Pro Trans in a sense for sure Hasan 👌 👏 they totally aren't doing it to enforce only men and women hooking. They just want all those gay men to be the women their society judges them to be.
I feel like this is more of in the "spirit of" moments where i agree with the sentiment but the wording leaves out the nuance of the situation. Also Adam isn't what is happening full blown war?
Wait Adam. Are you saying dogmatism is not really in line with free speech and the foundational principles of classical liberalism? Don't tell the Catholics.
So Asmon needs to pick a lane because he's not being a "logical" centrist, he's just being a fence-sitter. But is on Twitch so is trying to still pander to the leftist dominate platform while wanting to be based and you can't do both. And he's just found that out. And while I side with him even to the based EXTREME end leftists THOUGHT he was saying and what he's actually saying, he's had this coming for a long time for even trying to ride this line while on Twitch lol. Never apologize and never fence-sit because then NO ONE is really coming to help you, I know I won't lol. This is just fun to see two people I hate debate over leftism's nonsense lol.
I’ll ask if Sitch brings it up again. I only started pushing back on the idea because he took my silence as me agreeing with the idea, which I clearly don’t. He used to bring it up regularly but in all fairness I brought it up this time.
@SitchAndAdamShow Yeah, no big. I find it interesting. Personally, I think it's more the "man is inherently good" vs "man is inherently evil" idea. Left wing tends to want safeguards to protect individuals from society, and the right tends to want to protect society from bad individuals. Though in America, we are so individualistic even the right supports individual rights. At least for the time being.
In the beginning of this stream, you guys are basically putting words in his mouth and misconstruing what he said. I hope over the next two hours I hear your breakdown understand what he actually said.
He's reddit might be purged next. I just got banned on his reddit for talking about how boring his hasan discussion was. I've been posting on it for years and never banned.
The idea that the polling in Gaza can’t be used to accurately measure overall sentiment is kinda wild, like these polls have also showed that groups like hamas were unpopular before the recent war even started
That's small l liberalism talking. No system outside of it is legitimate in it's view. Only liberalism produces people who are free to to be honest according to it's own doctrine. It's not necessarily wrong in every case but is most often deployed strategically to delegitimize non liberal viewpoints
Bruh i love it when people's viewers expose them. Your own viewers are hella racist and that's why they disagree with your take that he did anything wrong. Lmao Your viewers see you as having the same racist mindset as them 😂😂
Nice Hasan imitation are you one of his lemmings? Excuse me, fans? Islamic theocratic countries are objectively anti-liberal & inferior. Oppression & intolerance are baked into the ideology of Islam itself. The cognitive dissonance that woke leftists have with Islam is insane.
Asmon is unironically 100% right.
yeah. sadly he will lay down flat and say f...me over
He was obviously talking about Islamists, not Arabs. Hating Islam is not racist. Stop being disingenuous.
Adam makes the argument that Palestinians secretly don't agree with the government due to fear, but the majority of Palestinians abroad who don't have that fear of been shot say the same things. So it dose not line up.
Because then you would have to admit openly that they have less value.
a oll in gaza literally 80% agreed with hamas rule, ask them about jews and the % is very close to 100%
Well to be fair, those living abroad has less reason to feel the actual issue presently on their own bodies, like the palestinians IN Gaza, since those in western countries protesting in favor of Hamas, aren't the ones having their emergency ressources spent by a terrorist organization, or having terrorists firing rockets from their homes, knowing that they will become targets for return fire.
Those people abroad have a FAR easier time, distancing themselves from Hamas -- but in terms of the fear factor that you mean here, BUT also in terms of why they SHOULD hate Hamas.
Well we can see this in North Korea, most fear speaking out or are told to believe this is the best you are going to get. Same fore every country in the 1800s under a religious state had to follow through fear or indoctrination
@@Heelydon77 no pro pals demonstrations in arab or even muslim countries. this should be a huge tell
The Treaty of Versailles after ww1 crippled Germany and is arguably the main reason it went insane. Hasan`s argument would put 100% of the blame of ww2 on the Allied forces. Germany was oppressed, so anything it does is the oppressers fault, right? It's very condescending to think people aren't responsible for their own (re)actions.
I think he has a point, when I get hungry I also get the urge to discriminate against the gays. It's science or something, brah.
The treaty of Versailles wasn't harsh enough
Crazy that Asmon got banned for this. He is in no way advocating for genocide, he’s just saying he doesn’t care that it’s happening. Which is a fine position to hold. Most people don’t care about most genocides that happen. Also our culture is objectively better than theirs so he’s not wrong on that either
The main way in which he messed up was making it sound like they all deserve to die, or at least leaving an opening for people to assume he means that. Other than that, saying our culture is superior and he doesn’t give a shit what happens on the other side of the planet is a mainstream view
He back talked twitches golden boy
@@swingingfordearlife getting a job and going to job to earn money and get a spouse and have children and follow daily laws is a mainstream view....your point?
Yeah. He said he doesn't care about the genocide
@@ehenningsen no one really does
Anyone who watches Asmon knows that he is coming from a place of apathy. He isn't advocating genocide, he literally just doesn't care. When he says "I don't care", he's not hoping they die, he's not hoping for *anything*. He honestly doesn't care, and won't be compelled to.
Holy mother of based, Adam is on fire lately.
And massive respect to Asmongold for taking the stance even at personal cost.
Anyone who thinks that Asmongold deserves “massive respect” for saying this, is a complete waste of oxygen.
Already retracted his stance.
@@Markunator Not as much as Pro-Palastine Far Left losers.
“Palestinians aren’t anti gay or trans”
Then why is homosexuality illegal? Flipping grifter
It was so fun watching Hasan trying to jump thru hoops to explain why it's ok for certain cultures to be huge -phobes(to the point of having a KOS attitude) while at the same time condemning "gamers" because they don't want woke politics stuffed into their games. He is truly the paragon of 2024 progressive values.
For real dude. These companies are blatantly removing it before selling it to other countries but ignore their home buyers wants. Scumbag behavior at it's finest.
Yea it's amazing to live in the progressive nanny state, we can't falter to ever use racial slurs in frustration since it's the root of all evil. Meanwhile, we have to pretend people who KOS have no agency due to material conditions.
Asmongold is too quick and smart. He only repeats debate bro tactics to bring things back to some emotional appeal so he can get an out. AG has an excellent memory (as do I and I can always notice when others do because of their recall on 20-30 year old events and news, or something someone said just yesterday, he pays attention and remembers passively) and regularly brings on grief chatters to let them argue. e.g. he's constantly dealing with the kind of people in Hassan's chat. He's also not audience captured and has managed to maintain a buffer between whatever his persona is and the audience because he doesn't fully commit to some specific content or politic. Like an anti-bullshit streamer that is consistently human, fair to a reasonable point, with hard limits and honest in his comments. I don't go looking online for content much anymore, I just see him react to it and he has good observations. Also if he's willing to pay for your government cheese, better him than me. I doubt Hassan donates extra on his tax return...
To be fair, according to gamers im not allowed to be hired. Im a DEI
@@ehenningsen no one should be hired solely on DEI
The only thing he did wrong was apologize .
Mamluks were slave soldiers. And the Janissaries were the elite troops for the Ottoman Empire, they were children taken from the Balkans and raised to be slave soldiers. So pretty progressive 🙃
They were then intentionally send back to those area to suppress rebellions.
XD I'm starting to think Hassan has a tendency to gloss over alot of fine details that might make someone else go "huh that's kinda fucked"
@@TheFatalcrest Hasan is a grifter, he can't be trusted with anything he says. That asmon never fact checked him on anything he said was the tru travesty.
Im mean, they were alot better in many ways when compared to medieval europe. But we dont hold medieval europe as good example of how to operate in the modern day.
so bringing up the Ottomans as an example of how great the Islamic world was is always a hollow tactic.
It’d be easier to buy Adam’s point about the poll if there wasn’t all that footage directly following the October 7th attack of the streets full of people celebrating, praising god, and crying tears of joy over the many horrible things Hamas had just done. I was just watching a Frontline episode on PBS about the October 7th attack right before I started listening to this last night, and hearing someone talk about getting caught up in the joy of the event was just bizarre. It seems like the guy only really thought it was bad because of the blowback he knew would come from it.
The madness of crowds.
@@SitchAndAdamShow That's just silly excuse to sign away any and all responsibility. The truth is. Some people and groups of people, large groups of people are evil, their core belief is evil and when they do get a chance they are likely to act on their evil ideas.
@luckyfk3452 The people you are describing are the fanatics, the ones who join up a terror group and directly do the killing. This group is the loud minority in every totalitarian society.
Then we have the large disorganized majority of normal people who just want to live their day to day lives and don't really hold any political opinions whatsoever and just follow the crowd that is lead by the fanatics, because that's the norm which allows them to continue their normal lives and not attract attention to themselves.
@@luckyfk3452
Yeah! Strange how it's always this one specific religious group causing issues in literally every country they're allowed to be in, huh? But yeah just madness of crowds lol
@@luckyfk3452exactly then they are a crowd that does awful shit when they get together
1:00:26 Wait this completely destroys the "America is founded on racism" argument. American colonies existed under a tyrannical government, how could they know racism was wrong?
Haha Sitch brought it up 3 minutes later
Love how Hasan acts like he has the measured opinions when he thinks that all Israelis are settlers
They are. Absolutely. The only ones who you can make an argument for _not_ being settlers, are the ones who are partially descended from “the Old Yishuv”, a.k.a. Palestinian Jews. However, even _those_ Israelis are _also_ partially descended from Zionist settler-colonists.
Look. Criticizing Islam is not Islamophobic any more than criticizing Israel is antisemitic. I can't stand the moral outrage of any group claiming victimhood to prevent rational discourse and civil dialog. It's like calling criticism of crt racism. It's a theme guys. And almost everyone embraces it when they want to limit free speech of rational dissent.
What is so bad about being islamophobic?
Stop being so defensive
@@XanderFenikkusu defensive? That's a weird accusation. I'm calling out the dishonest people who use this tactic, especially the woke. But not just them. Who am defending against? Are you just trolling?
No. A phobia is an *irrational* fear of something. Islam's core tenant is to eliminate anything that is not Islamic. Fearing that and desiring to destroy it at nearly any cost is not irrational.
@@patterofheads256Exactly ,being N*Zi phobic is perfectly legitimate as well
@patterofheads256 preaching to the choir. I don't like the woke doublespeak.
Greeks and Roman cultures allowed gay stuff long before the Ottoman Empire existed. and the reason why it "wasn't a problem" in Muslim countries is the same reason there "wasn't a problem" in the 1800s USA with gays.
I was going to say! Just because they didn’t pass a law about it doesn’t mean people didn’t take action against it!
England didn’t ban slavery until quite recently, because it didn’t exist there, it wasn’t acceptable culturally and they just passed a law to solidify it despite not actually being a problem.
You don’t have to outlaw gays if it’s always open season to hunt them down, it just adds to it when you pass a law against homosexuality.
@@henrikaugustsson4041 since when is 1834 "quite recently" Like the Human right act of 1998 was just wording clarification...
I think you're right but it's also important to point out the gay stuff that the Greeks and Romans did allow was mostly the pedophiliac boy lover stuff of old men and children that were rejected from most of society.
@@henrikaugustsson4041 I know at least one American slave who went to Britain with his slave owner and there the Slave owner learned there’s no slavery in Britain. They went to court and the judge decided the “slave” is a free man in Britain, and can’t be forced to go back to America to live in slavery.
So I guess they got rid of it before America. And apparently without a civil war. Impressive.
@@communistcomputergod6449 They indeed did. The reason America didn’t outlaw it sooner was because they needed the south to resist the British during the war of independence and they didn’t want to get on their wrong side by abolishing slavery just then, so it took a while longer than it should’ve, but it was on its way out even then.
Why would war from an external actor force a culture to hate gay members of its own population? This is such a stupid argument.
Hasan 'Trans the gay away' such an Paragon of virtue.
Also, he doesn't understand why people are protesting about DEI in video games. They are not anti gay/black, many are gay/black themselves.
Asmon was perhaps hyperbolic, but he's otherwise absolutely correct
It’s so clear Adam is miles away from asmons thinking on this situation. Asmon has plenty of understanding for the plight of the Palestinian people. He just does not believe the ideology of Hamas is equal to the western ideology.
This short section, from 12:40 - 19:00, is basically what Asmongold meant, but he didn't say it as eloquently as Sitch and Adam did. But this is 100% on the money. Reminds me why I used to sub and watch so much.
Pluralism. That's the ideology we're talking about. Not relativism. It's a tolerance for the exercise of freedoms protected in classical liberalism. The Hassan type denial of better and worse governance is a failure to recognize the tolerance enforced in classical liberalism.
I’d have to say my favorite point of the discussion was when Hasan compares the Houthi pirate to Ann Frank. I almost broke down at work when i heard that. Perfect comedy.
In the 50s under the Shah, homosexual activities were decriminalized and the Shah even hosted some kind of gay wedding, which was an event that triggered the Shah’s downfall
Nope, that was not it.
Christ, imma watch some Asmondgold. I just heard his first clip you showed of him and he's so damn right.
He’s right on a lot of things. Pretty reasonable guys, he’s changed my mind a lot.
Asmongold is based af.
Not. He took the knee like 2sec later...
I honestly liked him (at least his UA-cam presence), but this is yet another instance of him being cringe.
He WOULD have been based IF he would have stood by this (While not simping for Israel either!)
@@XanderFenikkusu No!!!! Damn it.
@@Galildoughty what do you expect. It’s asmongold lol he’s like halfway in transitioning into gollum
No, he’s an impossibly stupid and bigoted man who lives worse than an animal.
No he's not, he's a fence-sitter.
Asmongold did nothing wrong
Yeah, he did.
@@Markunatoreh, but really, he didn’t. There’s nothing wrong with saying you don’t care if people with evil ideologies die is a perfectly valid stance.
I don’t think I have the patience to finish this video. Hasan cannot stfu for longer than 30 seconds.
I don’t think i can listen to 2 hours of Hasan
I think confusion can arise from Sitch's inside-outside perspective because it varies so wildly in scale.
You can easily call immigrants an outside threat, because they come from outside the country and the culture. But then with the civil war, the North was the outside threat to the South despite both being america (albeit with different cultures). Further, his example with university professors pushing progressive culture on younger generations, thats an 'outside threat' being perpetuated by american teachers IN American universities, sometimes in your very own state. What's next? My neighbour put up a sign for the opposite candidate, he's a threat trying to influence my children from outside my household!
What you perceive as an outsider can vary so wildly, because it ultimately comes down to whatever is outside of yourself, your direct ideology. And so I think in that way, it's a bit useless if we allow the scale to fluctuate and the label of outsider to encroach further and further inward.
Great point. You said it better than me. 😂
Asmon has been "cancelled" dozens of times before, this is just another.
This is a slightly larger magnitude than most of the others, he will still survive it but possibly not on Twitch
@@swingingfordearlifethe ban was temporary
asmon caved this time. he always goes on and on about how he doesn't care what other think (to an off putting degree). and he apologized. so i hope he at least skips that future trend of his.
@swingingfordearlife he will be back on twitch in a day or 2... this has happened before
He cucked and uploaded an apology video today, real sad to see 😞
I followed Asmongold since like the beginning during the WoD and Legion days. I just wish he would play wow again. I don’t care as much about any of his react content these days.
Because WoW fucking sucks. Retail is wretched and they’ve even messed up classic now
@@Sbrick521i know it suck but he made it fun to watch. Maybe I am just nostalgic for his old streams. They were so much fun.
@@jmanjman2685 nah that's fair. Any time a content creator leaves a thing they did behind there will still be people there wanting it to some degree.
@@jmanjman2685 As someone that played Wow from Vanilla his WoW content is terrible. It is just a guy that has groupies doing his work for him while getting all of the credit just min maxing everything. The funnest parts of WOW were not getting gear. They were getting sidetracked doing the dumbest things which Asmon has never been a part of. He has said time and time again that that stuff is gaa. Nostalgic for old game streams instead of being nostalgic for playing the game yourself is a toxic ideology. Nostalgia for what other people have done instead of what you did yourself.
He's bored of WoW.
Inside vs outside threats... Think of the oath to protect the united states from threats both foreign and domestic.
10:47 that’s not woke
Our culture is progressive ( that progressive we are now walking back down the mountain)
But it’s still better than Islam
What isn't? Mud huts and tiki torches would still be better, grappling like cavemen with wolves.
You can be progressive without being woke. You just have to be a progressive that believes some cultures are inferior and others superior. This is the thing woke people are not allowed to believe.
@@SitchAndAdamShow I'm progressive and I'm wide awake.....but not woke, because I decide if I want to refer to a transgender person as "he" or "she". They and them only applies in plural form to 2 or more people, regardless of gender.
@@SitchAndAdamShowso mainstream liberalism.
@@turgonnaish liberalism ≠ progressivism
1:40:55 No this is how all the OTK people act when they talk to Hasan because the bridge between that whole friend group and hasan is a rickity rope bridge dangling above a canyon full of spiky rocks
I've never had the impression any of them actually like each other.
@@snipes503 They don't like Hasan but Hasan is close to Twitch CEO so they all suck his dick in hope it benefits them by proxy.
ottoman empire had pro pdfile laws . that is the major truth
The major truth no one wants to grapple with is that every late imperial government does. Ours are implicit for the moment but may become explicit before it all breaks apart
@drewth Granpa, did you forget to take your medication again?
@@IamaCosmonaut Go back to sleep, bud. The adults are having a conversation
Muhammad had a 9 year old wife and he is revered as the perfect human, an illiterate barbaric pedo. Kinda makes you think.
2:23:21 but is the problem there that they come from outside or that they cut in line? If we isolate those two things, people would absolutely have a problem with them cutting in line, but not necessarily with them coming from outside. It only makes them feel WORSE about them cutting in line because they are even less entitled than someone who was always there just trying to advance in the queue. Therefore, that still seems a matter of fairness, not outsider threat.
The outsider already being scummy sets off threat stuff
Asmon generally has good political takes. He's completely independent and does not GAF.
israel droped about 75 Kiloton of bombs in gaza in 11 months, reportedly (by gaza health authority which is run by hamas) killed 40,000 people with no distinguish between combatants or civilians. in Comparison the Hiroshima bomb blast instantly killed about 78,000 with a blast equal to 15 kiloton. If this is genocide than this is the most ineffective genocide in human history...
Add to this, the Arab Israeli population has only been going up over the decades, so Israel might be the single most incompetent genocidal regime in recorded history.
Their population isn’t even decreasing either
Sitch instead of one being inside ot outside , both sides are just saying that people from outside my tribes way of thinking are the problem.
Regardless of the specifics I respect Asmon for coming out with a strong opinion on this. I had pegged him as the sort of guy that only gives shallow commentary while trying not to offend anyone.
Enlightened centrists when you suggest that genes might have an influence on memes: 😡😡😡😡
The funniest part is that asmon being against Palestine because its religious pisses of both extremes
Eristocracy mentioned rahhh just waiting for the “sitch finds his Jewish wife pt 2” 😂
For clarity asmongold is saying Palestine would engage in ending gays if they had the upper hand not the “west” per se.
I started watching Asmongold cuz reminds me of a friend from high school who had a bald spot and played Diablo and I’m lonely
The ottomans had the worst version of hecklers in history
2:20:00
What needs answered is “is a “traitor” an inside or outside threat?”
How many people will finally learn that you should not debate with grifters? Especially someone like Hasan Piker?
1:15:40 Hasan sounds like when Christians try to rewrite history to catch up with the times.
1:40:00
Asmongold doesn't really care too much for wokeness, he does have bad takes.
Like when he wants illegal immigrants to get health care.
Asmongold was right about everything though even if it sounds bad.
Culture is not a race. Also, how much do I need to donate to come on and teach you both about what's really going on with immigration?
It's deliberately twisted. If someone criticised USA culture, I doubt he'd say that person was racist towards the American race.
1:24:46 xD i think that was an episode of The Blacklist. A middle eastern underworld big wig was under constant attack and threat from assailants, and the person behind itvwas their daughter...who was previously their son, but was *forced* to transition to prevent any shame from coming to his name and organization for having a gay son.
Pro Trans in a sense for sure Hasan 👌 👏 they totally aren't doing it to enforce only men and women hooking. They just want all those gay men to be the women their society judges them to be.
I feel like this is more of in the "spirit of" moments where i agree with the sentiment but the wording leaves out the nuance of the situation.
Also Adam isn't what is happening full blown war?
33:30: Do you mean Gulf War?
Asmongold emphatically defined the western cultural values he stands for. Maybe he should research those values before he engages his brain?
Wait Adam. Are you saying dogmatism is not really in line with free speech and the foundational principles of classical liberalism? Don't tell the Catholics.
Who is this ozmongold adam keeps talking about lol jk Adam
So Asmon needs to pick a lane because he's not being a "logical" centrist, he's just being a fence-sitter. But is on Twitch so is trying to still pander to the leftist dominate platform while wanting to be based and you can't do both. And he's just found that out. And while I side with him even to the based EXTREME end leftists THOUGHT he was saying and what he's actually saying, he's had this coming for a long time for even trying to ride this line while on Twitch lol. Never apologize and never fence-sit because then NO ONE is really coming to help you, I know I won't lol. This is just fun to see two people I hate debate over leftism's nonsense lol.
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@SitchandAdamShow Adam you gotta make Sitch explain the right wing fear of the deep state. Doesn't seem to fit well with the inside vs outside threat.
I’ll ask if Sitch brings it up again. I only started pushing back on the idea because he took my silence as me agreeing with the idea, which I clearly don’t. He used to bring it up regularly but in all fairness I brought it up this time.
@SitchAndAdamShow Yeah, no big. I find it interesting. Personally, I think it's more the "man is inherently good" vs "man is inherently evil" idea. Left wing tends to want safeguards to protect individuals from society, and the right tends to want to protect society from bad individuals. Though in America, we are so individualistic even the right supports individual rights. At least for the time being.
That is a great model too.
Did Asmon say he’s paying 7 figures in taxes?
If he’s making at least 3 million a year and taxes are 35% then I guess he would be.
@@henrikaugustsson4041 makes sense
Why comment instead of actually researching it? Oh right. Attention seeking. Instead of learning what you want to know seek likes and attention.
@@Onthebrink5 *has a stroke reading this*
@@RedPenDragon3 Says the dude that seeks attention from strangers on youtube. Maybe you will get 5 likes.
25:13 video starts 👍
Asmongul Dukat
you keep using culture like it's some verbal tick
In the beginning of this stream, you guys are basically putting words in his mouth and misconstruing what he said. I hope over the next two hours I hear your breakdown understand what he actually said.
What are you even talking
I'm 12min in and they haven't done that at all
Az mond gold
He's reddit might be purged next. I just got banned on his reddit for talking about how boring his hasan discussion was. I've been posting on it for years and never banned.
The idea that the polling in Gaza can’t be used to accurately measure overall sentiment is kinda wild, like these polls have also showed that groups like hamas were unpopular before the recent war even started
That's small l liberalism talking. No system outside of it is legitimate in it's view. Only liberalism produces people who are free to to be honest according to it's own doctrine. It's not necessarily wrong in every case but is most often deployed strategically to delegitimize non liberal viewpoints
Bruh i love it when people's viewers expose them. Your own viewers are hella racist and that's why they disagree with your take that he did anything wrong. Lmao
Your viewers see you as having the same racist mindset as them 😂😂
They're not racist
And no actual or regular viewers think they are
What did Asmon say that was racist?
@Foreseer117 that an entire country is complicit in the actions of a group.
That basically all Middle Eastern people are the same.
Nice Hasan imitation are you one of his lemmings? Excuse me, fans? Islamic theocratic countries are objectively anti-liberal & inferior. Oppression & intolerance are baked into the ideology of Islam itself. The cognitive dissonance that woke leftists have with Islam is insane.
When you are among the dumbest human beings on the planet and then write a comment.