2023 Atari 7800 Buyers Guide
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
- Hey guys, I hope this buyers guide helps people looking for a place to start with getting their 7800 stuff. As always, the best way to go is to bid on auctions on EBay to get this stuff cheaper than I even quoted, or try to find them locally. Its hard to find things at Goodwills and Garage Sales anymore, but if you found one I'm sure you'd get it for a song!
All the prices were quoted from EBay, which is the source I think most people use, except where otherwise noted. But places like atarisales.com has new and sealed 7800 games for far less than what EBay sellers ask, so keep that in mind!
The homebrew can usually be found in one of these three places:
atariage.com
gooddealgames.com
atarisales.com
however, some can be obtained from Etsy time to time, and some can be acquired by emailing or messaging users on atariage or Atari io forums direct. Getting involved in the community is the best way to find this stuff and get even better deals!
Also, your going to want to learn how to use www.best-electronics-ca.com as he has stuff nobody else has and its usually much cheaper. It's a hassle but its well worth finding obscure and rare accessories, games, parts and more. So don't shy away from using that messy website!
There are still pallets and pallets of sealed 7800 and 2600 games from the prosystem era out there that people have on the web, so be careful spending outrageous prices on games or thinking sealed Atari stuff is an investment. I mean it could be one day, but today is not that day. Just a thought, you can do as you please obviously. Its your collecting life after all :)
If I missed anything please leave it in the comments as I want this to be a resource for anybody buying 7800 stuff in the future. Something like this would've helped me a lot when I got into this stuff heavily.
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Anything that I've forgotten or bears repeating will be in the pinned comment below the video. and that may be further updated in the future. Thanks!
And please subscribe if you got anything out of this video, it helps way more than you'll ever know. But ill settle for a like!
#atari #atari7800 #7800 #gaming #retro #buyersguide - Ігри
Hey guys! I hope this video is useful to some people. Just a note obviously these prices (from eBay) are not set in stone and the best bet is always to avoid Buy It Now and try to bid on auctions. There will be a sister video eventually called "Getting the Best Video Game Deals on eBay."
Homebrew can be found at atarisales.com, AtariAge.com and gooddealgames.com along with new and sealed 2600 and 7800 games!
When buying the UAV or an AV mod alone you have to install it yourself which requires finding a guide along with soldering and disassembly skills. Just an FYI.
Also best electronics website is www.best-electronics-ca.com
If you need help ordering please let me know and I might be able to explain it a bit more.
Thanks for watching guys. Pinned comments will be updated as needed!
Just found your channel. I’m really enjoying it. I’m a new 7800 owner as of a week ago. I have a huge collection of 2600 stuff (that I’ve been accumulating my whole life) and a pretty good 5200 collection as well. So, I’m super excited to get into this new to me Atari console. I bought mine on eBay without the hookups but bought an upgraded power supply from Best Electronics for about $21 plus shipping and am currently using an NES RF switch. Can’t wait to get some games!
I can't believe I forgot about best electronics for the power supplies! But I'm glad to have comments like yours to hopefully help remind people.
The 7800 is great! It gets a bad rap because of it's small library of games that didn't really take advantage of the hardware, but most of the games are great!
Be sure to check out my rankings of 78 homebrews video tomorrow as they are a great reason to own a 7800 today! And thanks for the kind words about the channel! Hope you enjoy the content for a long time to come!
Great video. I'm from Australia where the joypad controller is much more common than the pro-line joystick. Something new 7800 owners should know is that button 2 on the 7800 joypad can be unreliable for 7800 games that use buttons 1 and 2 independently for separate functions. 2 of the 5 joypad controllers I have owned had a non-working button 2, however both buttons will still work fine for all 2600 games and the 7800 games that use just 1 button function. If buying a joypad online, see if you can confirm with the seller that buttons 1 and 2 are working. It is also common to find them missing the thumb stick that screws onto the dpad. A replacement can be very difficult to source, so try to find controllers that include the thumb stick. They sold very few 7800s in Australia. Even games considered "common" in the US and Europe can be hard to find and are expensive.
Great information! This is definitely the kind of stuff people need to know!
If you're in the US I still recommend trying best electronics as their controllers are rebuilt and guaranteed.
Retro gameboy pad for the win. I bought these a year or two ago and it transformed my 7800. I had a lot of nostalgia having grown up with a 7800, along with a 5200 and NES (I was spoiled, just happened to be the youngest with two older brothers and an older sister). I remembered playing my 7800 for hours and hours with my sister, along with playing 2600 games on it. The controller, even as a kid, i remember not being as good as the NES. I couldnt put it in to words back then, but playing Double Dragon on my 7800 and then going to the NES made it very noticeable. After buying a 7800 when i got back in to retro collecting, it mainly lived off nostalgia and was hadly ever used. Once i got one of those gamepads, i could play (and wanted to keep playing more) 9 inning games of Pete Rose Baseball. Anyone on the fence about one of these gamepads, dont wait, go out and get one!
Absolutely. These things are awesome! Thanks for the comment!
This buyers guide is a great idea. I really have not seen anything like it before for the 7800. Best Electronics definitely deserves more spotlight and I am glad you referenced this old school site. It’s almost a “historic experience” talking on the phone with the man who bought truck loads of gear from the bankrupt Atari and also developed enhanced controllers. I really feel like it’s the 7800’s time to shine and this will help.
Thank you for the kind words. I've bought off best several times and those emails were some of my actual interactions with him. But no doubt the process turns off the "stick it in my cart and moves on people" and that's fine. He's gotten a bad rep for that reason but he's always been honest to a fault and perfectly cordial to me.
I hope the 7800 finally gets a turn in the collectors spotlight. It seems like people ignored it for too long. As always thanks for watching!
Pricecharting is a valuable but dated resource, as most prices online on forums or auction sites are going to be higher. As working units dwindle, costs will only go up.
I still have all my original 7800 stuff. There's a bunch of home brew that looks interesting but I feel like I'm years past collecting for my Ataris. Very cool and informative video
Thank you for the kind words. Yeah collecting is something that you either have to be passionate about at the time or your willing to dedicate a lot of time to. Having all your original stuff is very cool! I only collect 7800 because it's nostalgic for me and I love what's going on in the community today. Thanks for watching the video!
@@TheAtariNetwork the 5200 was my very first system and I bought a 7800 with a box of games in the late 90s. Besides going to ebay and getting Ninja Golf I haven't picked up anything since that main purchase. I like collecting for everything. That online shop u mentioned for Atari controllers is fantastic. I've been wanting that for a while. I'm down to my last working 5200 controller but it's begging to be retired 😂
Their rebuilt stuff is top notch and it's even cheaper than eBay for used junk that may or may not work. I hope people don't let the lay out of the website or the odd way of ordering stop them...
@7800ProGamer the site is quirky but they're awesome on the phone! Best is so overwhelmed that they now limited orders to three items per order...
@@ShamrockParticle oh wow I didn't realize that. It's been a year or so since I called him but he said he gets swamped with calls day and night. I hope he's doing well still. Sounds like he has plenty to do lol. Thanks for the update
Well i bought my atari 7800 1,5 years ago along with all those Nintendo games and atari games for it and i am very very happy with it,
I highly recomment this not only for atari fans but for nintendo fans as well,
For decades i was always a big nintendo fan BUT once i discovered that nintendo games were also on atari systems,i became a huge atari fan as well😁
Liked, subbed & comment for the algorithms. The 7800 is a great console!
Oh thank you! I might be a bit biased but I like the 7800 too lol welcome to the channel! New videos every Monday and Thursday. Mondays are Man vs 7800 and Thursdays are for everything else!
Boy I'm sure glad I ran into this channel! Nice content.😊👍
Oh wow thank you that means a lot. I'm glad you enjoy what you're seeing and I hope I can keep you coming back! I've been told I'm very enthusiastic about Atari and the 7800 so I hope that becomes contagious lol.
@@TheAtariNetwork long time Atari fan myself. I first played one around 1981.
Nice run down guys. Watching this post 2600+. You should do an updated list!
On UK versions of the 7800 they come with built in asteroids
That's right I forgot about that but I did read that before! The UK got some really nice stuff with the 7800, Asteroids built in, the 2 button joypad, and a version of impossible Mission they could actually beat! Thanks for watching!
Excellent video! The 7800 is a great system with so many good games.
Thank you so much! I really want to introduce people to the 7800 and get the hardworking homebrew developers some more love. Beyond anything else this is what my channels dedicated too. The games are fantastic and I think it's time for the 7800 to shine. Thanks for watching!
@@TheAtariNetwork agreed and hopefully with the introduction of the 2600+ that will also open the door to more amazing homebrew, I’ve heard they plan to make all the untested game’s compatible so hopefully the homebrew will work as well. Also, love how you mentioned the awesome controllers out there for the system, I purchased one from Retro Game Boyz and it’s been great! Looking forward to your future videos on the other stuff you mentioned
@@Atarifan72 thanks again. They'll all come eventually but I reduced my uploads to Monday's and Thursdays to try and increase the quality. Better quality should mean more eyes (hopefully) and that means we accomplish our goal as mentioned before. Your support is appreciated and I look forward to discussing Atari with you and the rest of the community for many years to come!
I kept the psu for the 7800. When the main brick started to show higher voltages, I snipped off the connector and put it on a new brick. Correct voltage is as essential as cooling, e.g. hestsinks affixed to the microchips.
Even improper storage of boards can be detrimental if in high humidity conditions...
But I'd have someone do the UAV mod. The original hardware can be fragile and difficult to work with due to aging combined with lower-quality circuit boards.
Great advice and I'm glad you were able to save a power supply. This is really good advice for people looking into mods thank you for sharing!
@@TheAtariNetwork thanks! 😊 and thank you for a great presentation!
Been collecting the 2600 since the 80s and just got the Atari 2600+. Looking forward to trying out some 7800 games.
There's some good ones you won't be disappointed I don't think. Well you might be depending which games you try first lol. I'd avoid Jinx, Hat Trick or Tank Command as they don't represent the best the console has to offer. Thanks for watching!
Can Atari 2600+ fit & run about all M-Netwrok 2600 cartridges?
@Nestalgba92023 , they did a testing list and those were ok if I remember correctly
Absolutely incredible content!! You rep the Atari World flawlessly 🦾💯
Oh wow thank you, that's very high praise. The 7800 is my favorite all time console and I felt that it's not well represented on UA-cam or with collectors. I hope I can stay to your high expectations!
the prices for the original Atari joypads for the 7800 are ridiculous! But i like the original pads, they are great and 1000x better than the deluxe controller
They're completely rebuilt with redesigned internals created by best. But look up the joypad on eBay. They want 50+ for stuff that isn't even refurbished like these are. It's worth it to have something that works and works well, as a lot of these controllers are starting to go bad.
BEST ELECTRONICS sells the 7800 power supplies, new ones, NOT new old stock but new Power Supplies for $20
Excellent point I missed that.
I personally wouldn't throw away recommendations for games like Ninja Golf or Midnight Mutants, you'll only find high prices online. If you only shop at physical retro game stores like I do, you'll find 7800 games are more reasonable in price. I'd recommend Ballblazer, Desert Falcon, Alien Brigade, Commando, Scrapyard Dog, Basketbrawl, and Fatal Run. The ones I'd say to stay away from would be Crack'd, Jinks, Ikari Warriors, Impossible Mission, Super Huey UH-IX, and Double Dragon. Those are really lacking in fun.
I always think checking local is a good idea but I can't promise that people will find them locally and I can't assume prices if they do. The point was to keep things reasonably priced to start while they decide if the console is for them. Of course they can get whatever they want, but I don't want to recommend 80, 100, and 200 dollar games to start.
I don't agree with your list of games to stay away from either. Ikari Warriors is a great port of that game and plays very well. But maybe I'm in the minority there. After all, I'm a bit biased being the 7800 Pro Gamer and all lol
When I owned a Atari 7800 I bought all the fun games except the pricey ones:
Midnight mutants
Motor Psycho
Fatal run
The USA version of Mean 18 Ultimate Golf
Those four are some of my favorites. Midnight Mutants has a theme that I've loved since being a child, fatal run is fun even if it's not the best road blasters style game around, motor psycho is incredibly fun especially when you jump above the top of the screen, and mean 18 is an awesome early golf game. All fantastic choices thanks for sharing!
@@TheAtariNetwork your welcome, thanks for making the video. I play 7800 on my RetroPie system I made in 2019 and it's still going strong today.
I had one of those to toy with. I made it into a arcade out of some plywood and some joystick and buttons from Amazon. I took it apart earlier this year and put it away because nobody has touched it for a while but it was neat what the raspberry pi and retropie could do. Reminds me of a better original modded Xbox. Nothing wrong with retropie in my eyes. Enjoy it!
@@TheAtariNetwork your welcome. Glad to contribute
I'm getting the 2600+ , I'm a little stunned at the cost and availability of 7800 game's...
Head over to atarisales.com and dare I say best-electronics-ca.com if your interested in boxed or sealed stuff. Also my local retro game store has these same games for less than half that of eBay asking price. Yours may too.
It''s the Buy It Now's trying to gouge people that are making others start the bidding prices higher. Keep an eye out for auctions that start low because they don't usually get bid up that high.
The companion video to this, Gamers Guide to Buying on eBay will be out soon with these tips and more but again, most of us know this. It's just to help people mostly just getting into either the 7800 or the hobby in general.
Thanks for watching!
I'm used to buying 2600 carts for average $7 or less. I just bought 5 7800 carts for $137 ...2 are new and factor in shipping
I want about 30 7800 carts, I really am just trying to have some to play on the 2600+ and am afraid it will be even harder to buy 7800 carts in the near future..
@@jeromesppd1383 I don't think your wrong unfortunately. When I bought most of my collection I was getting in the box games for 10-15 all day long. And there was a time where games were at big lots for a dollar, back in 1991 or so.
I suggest doing your best and getting what you can as you can afford it and not wait too long. Because even if Atari releases some reprint 7800 games, such as the XP series, mark my works they'll be 50-100 dollars with some silly trinkets.
@@TheAtariNetworkEvery time I’ve dealt with Best they’ve been great. The rebuilt 5200 controller is a life saver
Well if you are a huge atari and huge Nintendo ,then the atari 7800 is NOT complete with those mentioned games donkeykong,dk jr,mariobros and pac man etc,,, these are absolute must haves,
I really became a huge atari fan ever since because of this😁
For decades i was always a huge nintendo fan and i always did believe that nintendo was not only the first and the best and the most innovative most original in everyway, ,but since i,ve discovered what atari did had to offer back then and how they even tryed to use nintendo’s ip’s against them in their add campaigns, (atari had a license to put nintendo ip’s on their system), i consider atari to be very smart back then,they tryed everything really hard to beat nintendo,but the luck was just on nintendo’s side and so here we are🤣
Best original run 7800 games:
* One on One Bird vs Dr J.
* Food Fight
* Robotron: 2084
* Xevious
* Galaga
* Joust
* Ms. Pac-Man
* Ballblazer
That's an excellent list. I personally would switch Galaga out but I seem to be in the minority there. Great recommendations thank you!
Great video, as someone from the UK I want to get a 7800 (falling in love iwth it on a podcast I did way back on our show RGDS Podcast) but when I looked many of the games are US only... I am excited for the Atari 2600 +, especially if one of the Flash Drives like 7800 GameDrive works (although everywhere sold out). Do you know if the GameDrive will work for this device?
I don't know if the 7800 Game Drive will work on the 2600+ or not. You can check atari.com for game compatibility but they haven't mentioned flashcarts. The thing that would worry me is the 2600+ runs off emulation so it might cause compatibility issues. You might want to see if somebody else tests this out upon release before spending money on both the console and the 7800GD...
@@TheAtariNetwork thankyou for your help
I appreciate you checking out the channel as soon as I know something for sure you better believe I'll let everyone know
Just curious but do you know if the Atari ST mouse would work with those light gun games on the 7800? I noticed in your video that during the light gun portion there was a cursor on screen (which I imagine is for playing with a regular controller) since the Atari ST mouse would have the same connector as the joystick and light gun controllers, it dawned on me that maybe it might work. And if it does, I think it would move the cursor much more quickly than a standard controller. What do you think?
Ok so according to a quick Google search an Atari ST will not work stock standard but there have been talks on various forums (ie AtariAge) that an adapter should be theoretically possible given how the movement is pinned out. I couldn't find an actual adapter or pin out but it might've been done before. I think your right that it would be much easier to play with an ST mouse or any that could potentially work with the 7800, but the control pad method isn't bad. Just maybe a bit slow. Thanks for the idea I'll do some more research at some point!
I am in Europe and I have the complete Atari 7800 boxed full set in PAL. I am always searching for an Atari 7800 NTSC in box and only 3 games only released in NTSC are missing in my collection.
I'm not familiar with the games missing from PAL what are the NTSC exclusives? I know PAL got sentinel and we didn't...
@@TheAtariNetwork Winter games, Tank Command and Rampage are missing in my collection.
@@euronymous076I'll keep my eye out for you but some of those will probably be costly...
@@TheAtariNetwork Yes, they are certainly expensive for sure. I made a mistake, it is not "Winter Games" which is missing in my collection, but "Summer Games" and I don't understand why it is so hard to find ?
I was surprised because that was one of the last couple games I had to get too and it just didn't appear that often CIB which is how all my games are. I'm not sure why that is. Idk with import tax if US eBay and sellers work for you but I'll link stuff in this thread if and when I see them
You can do a whole video on controllers. One that deserves its own video is the Edladdin Super Twin 78 Arcade Controller. Using this controller to play Robotron 2084 is the closest you can get to the arcade experience, IMO.
Another interesting video could be dedicated to SWAG and curiosities. Years ago, I ended up with a Tower Toppler Hot Tips Trading Card that from what I have been able to figure was from a promotion called Hot Tips Capri Sun ran in the late 80s. I don't know what other 7800 games had Hot Tips card or if this was a US or European campaign. I've never come across another card from this series and haven't found any other talk about this online.
There will be a controller episode and the ed laddin stuff is legendary among us 7800 guys! Especially the super twin joystick! Your absolutely right!
Btw you said you were going to show me that card! I'd love to see it as nothing pops up on Google about it. Thanks for the support you've been awesome!
@7800ProGamer do you have an email I can send the pics to?
@@ataribowlingcgc4465 yes I made this one specifically for the UA-cam channel. 7800progamer@gmail.com. is it ok if I show them in a video? I'd give either your user name or any name you want as credit for providing them? I'm not sure when I would feature them but it seems too cool not to share!
Great Video!
I love 7800, but you already know that 😅.
I bought mine about 3 years ago.
So far I have 19 titles and each one has been great fun.
Desert Falcon and Food Fight were the first games to attract me to the system. As well as the Namco, Williams, and Nintendo ports.
You see, I had an NES back in the day. So i felt like owning an 8 bit system again but wanted something different. So i took the Atari route. Each game has been great challenge and fun.
Atari is 🌈FRESH.
Theres still a few more official titles I want to grab before getting into the homeboobs. But darn am i excited for them!
The game I can show off most in is Pole Position II. I hold the world record for Seaside as well as the Suzuka track. Put many many hours into that. 🏁 🏎
Tower Toppler has been an awesome challenge, i have the patience for it. Still 2 more towers for me to master, ill be studying your get through guide before trying again.
I look foward to seeing you beat One-On-One 🏀 on Pro, at the moment thats a SUPER challenge for me.
Centipede 2 player Co-Op is up there with my best multiplayer experiences ever.
Ballblazer has been a true hit with friends, i heard one say it's the grandfather to Rocket League.
Mario Bros is great 2 player action too.
Speaking on Nintendo, the 3 Nintendo brand games was a reason i didnt go with Sega Master System. As DK, DK Jr, and MB are must haves for an 8 bit collection.
Commando 7800 looks and sounds better than NES.
Xevious is likely my favorite game on the 78.
I could go on and on with great things to say about each game I've played.
But yup.. plenty of homeboobs will be in my future! I have major catching up to do. Theres always something to look foward to.
One last thing..
The styling of the 7800 is magnifico !
I get enjoyment each day simply glancing at the system.
If a system brings you happiness without even turning it on, it's a keeper ❤.
You'll love the home boobs as we all do. They're the best especially on the 7800 😂
So many great games you mentioned! As a kid I was enthralled with how the background would move in and out of sight on pole position II especially on courses like seaside! Looks like I'm going to see how you did it because despite my history with it, I'm still not very good!
Tower Toppler has been a favorite of mine since I picked it up around 2009 or so. The Nintendo license games since childhood!
But games like Food Fight are system sellers for a reason! I'll keep an eye on your videos I really like your dedication to beating records in these games. Maybe one day I can give you some competition!
@@TheAtariNetwork
❤️🧡💛💚💙💜❤️
Bloopers?! In a buyers guide!? This guy's a mad man! Quick everybody, let's leave a bunch of comments telling him how we feel about that! That'll show him!
@watchsilverback you fiend. Tons of comments (and likes too!) would push the video up the algorithm and allow more people who might need this information to find it. You truly are pure evil, I hope your devious plan doesn't work! 😂😂😜
Homeboobs for all!
Lmao
People make honest mistakes. That’s why we have pencils
I dont think i recommend a modded Ebay system or anyone modding the OS chip unless your sure they are reputable and know what there doing.
If you have a source you recommend I'm sure people would appreciate it. There are two users on eBay who have been selling modded systems for years, and one I bought from personally close to 3 years ago. The console still works fine. But with eBay their return policy always airs on the side of the customer so I think most people will be ok.
Again I want to help as many people as I can so if you have a recommendation I'll put it in the next one. After I look into it of course!
Always check their feedback too. Somebody with a high rating and a lot of sales is always better than someone who doesn't have either!
i do think i state "unless your sure there reputable" in my reply.
@@Earths1stgamer you did. I wasn't sure if you had another recommendation or not. Anyway thanks for the input, it's a good reminder for people to always check feedback on a product or seller!
A silly question but is that picture of Jack T. one of the only photos of him on the net? Seems like all the videos I've ever seen that refer to Atari and any Atari product end up referring to Jack T. and use that very same photo!!... Lol haha 😂 Then again he doesn't have a very pleasant mug!..
In my search for Jack T pictures that's the only one he seems pleasant in lol. Plus it's him at Atari. I'll tell you what, I'll make it my goal to feature a different picture of Jack next time, I'll dig deep and try to find one you've never seen and tell me if I succeeded or not!
@@TheAtariNetwork sounds like a plan John... Btw, my name is John as well! Nice to meet you. Also, great channel. I'm drawing a lot of inspiration from you for mine as well. So thank you for that.
@@dinnerfor1540 nice to meet you! I'll have to check your channel out and thanks for the support!
Hi again John, it’s John (Dinnerfor1). I’m writing this by way of my gaming channel. I just wanted to let you know that I’m sending my subs your way through both of my channels. Hopefully, like me, they’ll enjoy your content. Your channel is growing quickly and I hope you have continued success.
Home “boobs” Lol…😂
the 7800 was my favorite game system, replacing Colecovision. Then it got knocked-0ut of first place by Sega Genesis.
That makes sense honestly. Something new and improved comes along so of course it knocks down the older stuff for most people. Thanks for checking out the video we appreciate it!
yeah, the video games of my collection started with Odyssey II and ended with Xbox One. Atari 2600 was not mine, but i did play it in 2nd grade at my neighbor's house.@@TheAtariNetwork
Wow that's like the whole history of gaming. I love seeing big collections, they're not for me but they look so cool!
i sold almost everything when i retired and moved to the beach. i bought a machine from Amazon that emulated everything and had everything loaded. the house here is too tiny for all the stuff i had.@@TheAtariNetwork
Good thing you didn't sell it all off. I hear so many stories of people doing that and then regretting it and having to pay a fortune to get just some of it back!
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