Thanks Thor for this excellent request! The perfect balance of prog and theatrics. Looking forward to more in the future!Thanks L33 for the wide range on music you react to, I never get bored! ☮️❤️🎶
There's so many to recommend. The Space, Neverland, The Great Escape, or more 'proggy' Ocean Cloud, The Invisible Man, This Strange Engine. Basically anything live.
I saw them in '84 on the tour for their next album (when the drummer had been replaced by someone more talented). It was the loudest gig I'd ever been to at the time! Having missed out on Genesis in the 70s I had no problem with their shameless mimicry of the old Genesis style, and as a wannabe wordsmith I really admired the lyrical wordplay in the Fish era. They moved in a different direction later, which I also like but in a different way.
Gday Lee,first Marillion album I ever bought,so glad I discovered them in the early 80s during my wild drug fuelled band days,great album,great band.Cheers Thor,too cool man.
I might have suggested the studio version, but this one sounds so similar I don't think you lost anything, plus you got the visuals of the theatrics. I discovered Marillion right around the time Fish left, and it's still some of my favorite music of all time.
Okay, their early stuff was heavily influenced by the prog version of Genesis but if you take it in context Genesis had already turned into the Phil Collins pop trio leaving a lot of their fans behind so Marillion filled a gap in the market.
Prefer the polish of the studio version myself, but it still brings back happy memories listening to this in 1983 (year of release) while writing student essays all evening. The last track on the album: "Forgotten Sons" is an anguished extended essay on the 'Troubles' in Northern Ireland and poor bloody infantry trying to win a military solution from a political failure. Musically it is absurdly over the top, but re listening now as a man entering old age I think they've nailed the futile stupidity of it all. See also: Kate Bush's "Army Dreamers" and The Cranberries' "Zombie" for other takes on the fallout from them.
Their 4 albums with Fish are all super. Fish's solo albums are individually brilliant and better than his Marillion days which were great.. Saw Marillion in 1984 in Glagow saw the big man on 5 different occasions in Glasgow also.
react to 'Marillion - Ocean Cloud next, i think that Steve Hogarth, the vocalist that replaced Derek (Fish) in 1989-onwards is WAY, WAY better on stage, not that Peter Gabriel-like theatrics but way more original and powered vocals
Lee, I thought you would never get here. Please explore more of this Fish-era Marillion. Virtuoso musicians and the tortured, yet optimistic, lyrics and vocals from Fish (Derek Dick) is simply outstanding music whatever it's called. If you were to ever consider a full-album reaction, Misplaced Childhood would be well worth the 45 minutes. Great concept album journey. Lead guitar, Steve Rothery, ranks with the other Steves, Howe and Hackett. Clutching at Straws also an outstanding album of the Fish era. Fish left in the late 80's and the band continues today making excellent music with Steve Hogarth on vocals and the same band.. Still great lyrics and music. Their F.E.A.R. (Fuck Everyone And Run) from 2016 is great. Thanks Thor.
The first Marillion album is my favorite. As long as Fish was the singer, Marillion was one of my favorite bands. With the new singer, although it was very good, I was less hooked. Then Fish had a great solo career, very interesting. I had the opportunity to see him in concert, it was just great. It's funny, I spent my evening yesterday listening to Fish. Thank you for sharing. It's true that at the time of the release of this album, people said that it was the new Genesis, Peter Gabriel period. The whole album is a success.
I found Marillion through a Genesis maillist in 1990 and they quickly became my second favorite band. Fish's lyrics have a lot of anger and angst. Their music changed in the 90s and beyond with Hogarth as a singer, but both eras are great for different reasons (much like Gabriel vs Collins Genesis). Hope you listen to more from them! Also, Lee, I found a multi-drum cam of Phil Collins, Chester Thompson, and Luis Conte on additional percussion from his solo farewell tour in 2004 that I think you'd love. You can see that Phil is just having a ball: ua-cam.com/video/hluKu9LE-mU/v-deo.html
Marillion took their influences from Genesis, Pink Floyd and Camel on the prog side. But Fish also added a bit of a punk attitude because I guess because that is the era they began in (1979). Listen to their first single "Market Square Heroes" to get that vibe. But they evolved their sound every album after that, to the present day. They are working on their next album right now, in fact. They got a new drummer who is still with them on the album after "Script" (called "Fugazi") named Ian Mosley who is still with them along with the guitarist, keyboardist and bassist who remain today. They got a new vocalist named Steve Hogarth for their fifth album who is with them still. This band is a very deep dive with over 200 songs, to date. Their third album with Fish was the most successful ever with a huge hit called "Kayleigh", which is a great pop song. It might be the only song many people have ever heard of theirs. If you want to try their second album next, listen to "Assassing". You'll notice the change in drummers, I think. Thanks again!
I definitely would compare Fish's vocals and especially lyrics to Peter Hammill rather than Gabriel, which Fish has said himself. Marillion also had Hammill sooo as an opening act. Definitely check out the live video of Forgotten Sons.
Totally agree, so much influence from Genesis, but not only, and a slightly different take. The lyrics are always so poetic and powerful on the first 4 albums with Fish. If you listen to anything else; it should be "Grendel”, or the entire "Misplaced Childhood" and/or "Clutching at Straws" albums. Shout out to the bass and guitar as well. Though I respect Steve Hogarth's vocals, I just could never really get into Marillion mach 2.
That's true, the reason is that Fish, the Scottish poet was influenced by Genesis, been a big fan of them. Fish collaborated with Tony Banks, even written and sang the lyrics of a song for Tony. The title is "Another Day of a Murder"
There is always a big debate over who was the best lead for Marillion, Fish or Steve Hogarth, almost in the same way that there is an endless debate over Gabriel and Collins. Early Marillion had definite parallels with early Genesis and as Genesis became more poppy in the 80s many Genesis fans including me took refuge in listening to Marillion at least as far as the album Clutching at straws which was when fish left. Thats not to say that what came after was poor. IMHO both phases of Marillion have their merits they are just a bit different and late Marillion is not really like Genesis other than it is progressive rock.
Sack the drummer. He's got to go. This is the very worst of Marillion. |Derivative music and horrible mawkish lyrics. The Genesis comparisons are what made the band, and, for their detractors, what has cursed them ever since. All that said, I can still enjoy the performance, but the band got so much better very quickly.
@@DEAKY3GAVUEL There is room for both versions of Marillion. I'm sick of fans who want divisions between the two iterations, or insist that only one is valid. It makes the fans look like idiots and does the band no favours.
a true classic
Misplaced childhood album is by far their best work really fantastic
Clutching at Straws for me, Misplaced Childhood close behind.
Thanks Thor for this excellent request! The perfect balance of prog and theatrics. Looking forward to more in the future!Thanks L33 for the wide range on music you react to, I never get bored! ☮️❤️🎶
Clutching at Straws is a must listen.......Sunsets on Empire a Fish solo album is a banger.
I love Marillion their first 4 albums are great. They just get better and better.
Really liked this, thank you for the pick, Thor. Hard hitting and beautifully soft made for a great listen. Blessings all.
Excellent production on the LP version adds another entire dimension.
They were often described as a ‘poor man’s genesis’ at the time.
Thanks for a great pick, Thor!
I remember buying several of their albums on cassette. Lol.
Damn good band.
This will be good.
There's so many to recommend. The Space, Neverland, The Great Escape, or more 'proggy' Ocean Cloud, The Invisible Man, This Strange Engine. Basically anything live.
Excellent Track 😊
Remember You did Easter, for Me, a while back.
Keep Rocking
Ronnie
SCOTLAND
I saw them in '84 on the tour for their next album (when the drummer had been replaced by someone more talented). It was the loudest gig I'd ever been to at the time! Having missed out on Genesis in the 70s I had no problem with their shameless mimicry of the old Genesis style, and as a wannabe wordsmith I really admired the lyrical wordplay in the Fish era. They moved in a different direction later, which I also like but in a different way.
Gday Lee,first Marillion album I ever bought,so glad I discovered them in the early 80s during my wild drug fuelled band days,great album,great band.Cheers Thor,too cool man.
Saw this line up at Reading festival ,early eighties .great band .Singer left mid eighties .I think they are still going .
Thank you, Thor! I’d never heard of them. Interesting, Gabriel-like.
Thanks
I might have suggested the studio version, but this one sounds so similar I don't think you lost anything, plus you got the visuals of the theatrics. I discovered Marillion right around the time Fish left, and it's still some of my favorite music of all time.
Okay, their early stuff was heavily influenced by the prog version of Genesis but if you take it in context Genesis had already turned into the Phil Collins pop trio leaving a lot of their fans behind so Marillion filled a gap in the market.
Also misplaced childhood and clutching at straws are brilliant concept albums
@@terryhall7697 Agree but do get fed up that any time they do get played on the radio it's always Kayleigh you will hear.
Prefer the polish of the studio version myself, but it still brings back happy memories listening to this in 1983 (year of release) while writing student essays all evening.
The last track on the album: "Forgotten Sons" is an anguished extended essay on the 'Troubles' in Northern Ireland and poor bloody infantry trying to win a military solution from a political failure. Musically it is absurdly over the top, but re listening now as a man entering old age I think they've nailed the futile stupidity of it all.
See also: Kate Bush's "Army Dreamers" and The Cranberries' "Zombie" for other takes on the fallout from them.
Their 4 albums with Fish are all super. Fish's solo albums are individually brilliant and better than his Marillion days which were great.. Saw Marillion in 1984 in Glagow saw the big man on 5 different occasions in Glasgow also.
react to 'Marillion - Ocean Cloud next, i think that Steve Hogarth, the vocalist that replaced Derek (Fish) in 1989-onwards is WAY, WAY better on stage, not that Peter Gabriel-like theatrics but way more original and powered vocals
Lee, I thought you would never get here. Please explore more of this Fish-era Marillion. Virtuoso musicians and the tortured, yet optimistic, lyrics and vocals from Fish (Derek Dick) is simply outstanding music whatever it's called. If you were to ever consider a full-album reaction, Misplaced Childhood would be well worth the 45 minutes. Great concept album journey. Lead guitar, Steve Rothery, ranks with the other Steves, Howe and Hackett. Clutching at Straws also an outstanding album of the Fish era. Fish left in the late 80's and the band continues today making excellent music with Steve Hogarth on vocals and the same band.. Still great lyrics and music. Their F.E.A.R. (Fuck Everyone And Run) from 2016 is great. Thanks Thor.
I enjoyed that .. thank you
The first Marillion album is my favorite. As long as Fish was the singer, Marillion was one of my favorite bands. With the new singer, although it was very good, I was less hooked. Then Fish had a great solo career, very interesting. I had the opportunity to see him in concert, it was just great. It's funny, I spent my evening yesterday listening to Fish. Thank you for sharing. It's true that at the time of the release of this album, people said that it was the new Genesis, Peter Gabriel period. The whole album is a success.
That was really good, like others said very Genesis ish. Thanks Thor. ❤
I found Marillion through a Genesis maillist in 1990 and they quickly became my second favorite band. Fish's lyrics have a lot of anger and angst. Their music changed in the 90s and beyond with Hogarth as a singer, but both eras are great for different reasons (much like Gabriel vs Collins Genesis). Hope you listen to more from them!
Also, Lee, I found a multi-drum cam of Phil Collins, Chester Thompson, and Luis Conte on additional percussion from his solo farewell tour in 2004 that I think you'd love. You can see that Phil is just having a ball:
ua-cam.com/video/hluKu9LE-mU/v-deo.html
Good one
Marillion took their influences from Genesis, Pink Floyd and Camel on the prog side. But Fish also added a bit of a punk attitude because I guess because that is the era they began in (1979). Listen to their first single "Market Square Heroes" to get that vibe. But they evolved their sound every album after that, to the present day. They are working on their next album right now, in fact. They got a new drummer who is still with them on the album after "Script" (called "Fugazi") named Ian Mosley who is still with them along with the guitarist, keyboardist and bassist who remain today. They got a new vocalist named Steve Hogarth for their fifth album who is with them still. This band is a very deep dive with over 200 songs, to date. Their third album with Fish was the most successful ever with a huge hit called "Kayleigh", which is a great pop song. It might be the only song many people have ever heard of theirs. If you want to try their second album next, listen to "Assassing". You'll notice the change in drummers, I think. Thanks again!
If my name was 'Derek Dick' I'd change it to something else too, but "Fish"?
Were the rest of the band Standing on platforms to look as tall as Fish, he looks huge, well over the 6ft mark
Just wait till you get to The Neil Morse Band, that's a Zappa sized rabbit hole that will take you a decade to navigate...
I definitely would compare Fish's vocals and especially lyrics to Peter Hammill rather than Gabriel, which Fish has said himself. Marillion also had Hammill sooo as an opening act. Definitely check out the live video of Forgotten Sons.
Totally agree, so much influence from Genesis, but not only, and a slightly different take. The lyrics are always so poetic and powerful on the first 4 albums with Fish. If you listen to anything else; it should be "Grendel”, or the entire "Misplaced Childhood" and/or "Clutching at Straws" albums. Shout out to the bass and guitar as well. Though I respect Steve Hogarth's vocals, I just could never really get into Marillion mach 2.
Marillion is so much more than a Genesis clone band NOW. More than 40 years with H singing now.other than that the lineup is unchanged.
here they are with an epic from the current lineup
ua-cam.com/video/rWFuzjqJYpY/v-deo.htmlsi=5GzG7dooPFPRIJLu NEVERLAND
sounded a bit like Genesis to me
That's true, the reason is that Fish, the Scottish poet was influenced by Genesis, been a big fan of them.
Fish collaborated with Tony Banks, even written and sang the lyrics of a song for Tony.
The title is "Another Day of a Murder"
There is always a big debate over who was the best lead for Marillion, Fish or Steve Hogarth, almost in the same way that there is an endless debate over Gabriel and Collins. Early Marillion had definite parallels with early Genesis and as Genesis became more poppy in the 80s many Genesis fans including me took refuge in listening to Marillion at least as far as the album Clutching at straws which was when fish left. Thats not to say that what came after was poor. IMHO both phases of Marillion have their merits they are just a bit different and late Marillion is not really like Genesis other than it is progressive rock.
Sack the drummer. He's got to go. This is the very worst of Marillion. |Derivative music and horrible mawkish lyrics. The Genesis comparisons are what made the band, and, for their detractors, what has cursed them ever since. All that said, I can still enjoy the performance, but the band got so much better very quickly.
the real Marillion is with Steve Hogarth on vocals
@@DEAKY3GAVUEL There is room for both versions of Marillion. I'm sick of fans who want divisions between the two iterations, or insist that only one is valid. It makes the fans look like idiots and does the band no favours.
@@DEAKY3GAVUEL how when he come after fish ? Like saying Collins was genesis real singer ? Bizarre idiotic comment