Life of an United Empire Loyalist during the American Revolution: Struggle & Survival

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  • Peter visits Adolphustown, one of the first landing sites of the United Empire Loyalists fleeing the American Revolution. The first group lands here after spending years in a refugee camp in Quebec. Peter talks a wee bit about the Loyalist experience, both in America and once they arrived in Canada. He also interview Erins Hatton, an avid historian who has written a novel based on her ancestors' experiences, "Across the Deep".
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  • @ThePalmerFamilyBackyardGarden
    @ThePalmerFamilyBackyardGarden 13 днів тому +6

    Good day, Peter! WOW, this is some profound historical information you are sharing in this video today. More, please, as you can do so! I have paternal English and French ancestry that go back to what you speak of. They were in Quebec and Newfoundland and then, for some reason unknown to me, moved to farmlands and orchards on the south shore of Lake Erie in Ottawa County. Deep down inside, I’ve always wondered why I’ve had mixed feelings and thoughts about the revolution. So, now it’s time for me to dust off my family ancestry records to have a fresh look and perhaps be rewarded for a deeper dive into them. Thank you, Peter, for your straight talk; and now I feel even more honored that you and Kathy joined us at table in Sainte Genevieve to have that enjoyable chat. Good day to you, Sir!

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому

      The honor was all ours. We quite enjoyed our brief conversation. Your family history sounds fascinating, I’d be taking a deep dive into it as well.

  • @blueskymut
    @blueskymut 3 дні тому +2

    Thank you so much for this wonderful historic presentation! My ancestors were Loyalists, they were chased out by the Cherry Valley Massacre and wound up in PEI. My great grandfather emigrated to America in 1900. Many Haydens still live at PEI today, I hope to visit someday. God Bless!

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  3 дні тому +1

      You are lucky to have been born. That was indeed a very nasty massacre. I thank you for sharing your families story.

    • @blueskymut
      @blueskymut 2 дні тому

      @@TheWoodlandEscape Wow, I never thought of it that way. Interesting to ponder.

  • @michaelschaber1948
    @michaelschaber1948 7 днів тому +4

    You are a great man history is so important

  • @scottmcfarland2149
    @scottmcfarland2149 13 днів тому +3

    Extremely interesting. Love learning history that is glazed over or omitted all together. Thank you you all. 🐾🙏🏻✌🏻

  • @aggieduke1
    @aggieduke1 13 днів тому +3

    Another great one Peter and Cathy. Thanks for sharing

  • @Mag_Aoidh
    @Mag_Aoidh 13 днів тому +3

    Excellent Peter and Erin!

  • @NeTxGrl
    @NeTxGrl 13 днів тому +3

    I had many ancestors that fought in the American Revolution, what we refer to as the patriots. I had a 5th ggf, Samuel Ellis, I'll give him a shout out. He was on duty one day when George Washington rode up beside him on his horse. Washington pulled out his spyglass and was observing the British. He then handed it to my 5th ggf and told him to take a look after which a long conversation took place. My mother's side of the family came to North America early, I'm a direct descendant of some Mayflower passengers. My father's side came in the late 1800's. I had ancestors in the British military during the American Revolution from my father's side of the family. I joke to myself that my ancestors were shooting at each other, good thing they didn't all kill each other otherwise I may not have existed. Enjoyed your video.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому +1

      I’m envious that you know so much of your family history. Thanks for sharing. I’d love to interview you someday.

  • @deanjernstrom3760
    @deanjernstrom3760 13 днів тому +3

    What better way to learn more from Peter. Erin is wonderful to listen to about her family history. So I sit on my front porch during a small rain shower watching your channel. Enjoy your weekend sir,and thank you again.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому

      You as well. Nothing beats a covered veranda in the rain … the word peaceful comes to mind!

  • @earlshaner4441
    @earlshaner4441 13 днів тому +7

    Good afternoon from Syracuse NY United States of America my friend and thank you for sharing the facts and truth brother

  • @JeffGloverArts
    @JeffGloverArts 13 днів тому +2

    This history of what common folk endured is outstanding! Thank you and your guests for sharing!

  • @donsipes
    @donsipes 9 днів тому +4

    Excellent. My 4th great grandmother Hanna Sipes and her family were labelled Loyalist and driven off their homestead in Susquehanna Territory. Her 3 sons served with Butler's Rangers. She was forced out with her young children and with not much more than the clothes on their back they somehow got to Lachine. I suspect with the help of the folks of the six nations. She spent the rest of the war at Machiche. She married Edwards Stookes there and settled near Niagara after the war. Two of her sons (Jacob and Jonas) settled near Niagara after the war and the third My third Great Grandfather Andrew settled in Matilda TWP, Dundas County. Keep up the great stories. THANK YOU.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  8 днів тому +2

      Thank you so much for sharing your fascinating family history. I’d love to interview you someday.

  • @bmcconnellue
    @bmcconnellue День тому +1

    Thank you so much for adding to shine a light on the experience of the United Empire Loyalists with this video. Well done! Brian McConnell, UE, President of NS Branch of United Empire Loyalists' Assocation of Canada, historian, and author of 5 books on Loyalists, all available on Amazon.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  5 годин тому +1

      Thank you for sharing this, sir. I’ll have to pursue your books for my winter reading list.

  • @gregorybrennan8539
    @gregorybrennan8539 5 днів тому +4

    If their could be any bridges of fraternity still left at the time of separation, it would be the retainment of ENGLISH COMON LAW. The greatest gift England gave to the world among many. God bless America, God save the king. Hearts of Oak.

  • @kathywalker6915
    @kathywalker6915 13 днів тому +2

    I've added Erin' book to my Amazon wishlist, thanks.

  • @ragnar8390
    @ragnar8390 12 днів тому +3

    Very interesting take on the drama unfolding during this time. Here's to our respective courageous ancestors who fought for what was best for their families in their own age 🇬🇧 🇨🇦 🇺🇸

  • @danielphillips486
    @danielphillips486 12 днів тому +2

    Wonderful video! I have never heard this history. Much thanks to you for sharing! Also enjoyed the bit with the boat at the end.

  • @larrylapierre2295
    @larrylapierre2295 12 днів тому +1

    What a wonderful history lesson Peter thanks for sharing.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому

      Glad you enjoyed it and we thank you for your interest.

  • @donaldwdavis
    @donaldwdavis 12 днів тому +3

    Ah Peter and Kathy, great video and great subject. My own Loyalist Scottish ancestors, the Mac Allisters, were run out of North Carolina. Their trail disappeared for about 7 years and they reappeared, and reinvented themselves in Kentucky after the war.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому +1

      You better be watching your backside Wade, I’ve heard those Patriots are still on the lookout for those Loyalists!

  • @johnlea8519
    @johnlea8519 12 днів тому +1

    Thank you Peter your little bits of history have shown me how ignorant I am on important but often glossed over historical facts, without your videos I would remain unaware of so much.

  • @user-qs7gx7rp7m
    @user-qs7gx7rp7m 12 днів тому +3

    Good stuff ! Through no virtue of my own other than study, know I'm heir to a wonderful 'Loyalist' heritage. Proud of them all.

  • @isaiahrarrick5456
    @isaiahrarrick5456 10 днів тому +4

    I should write a book too. About my families history . Hessian soldiers, German Palatines ancestors. One of my ancestors fought in both the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812. I also have an ancestor who was in with the unit as Joseph Plumb Martin.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  10 днів тому +2

      Indeed you should sir,, especially if you’ve got documented family history.

  • @chadandkimlessonsoldandnew3097
    @chadandkimlessonsoldandnew3097 12 днів тому +4

    Excellent video. Lot of sad truths for sure. Being descendant of southern patriots I am aware that had Cornwalis taken a different approach in the south we likely would have been on the other side or at best neutral.
    The sad truth of loyalist displacement as a Native Louisianian It reminds me of my French ancestors forced removal from Acadiana. I suppose at the end of the day people are people. Good people, bad people, all caught up in world issues. I have always had a very healthy respect for British virtue and English common law. I believe the English virtues are very evident in the way Canada treats it's natives, both People and Wilderness. Very good stewards indeed. Thanks for another great video.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  11 днів тому +1

      I thank you for your well thought out comments. There were many atrocities done on both sides and as you point out, not a lot has changed . As to natives, I’m afraid we treated them pretty bad and in my opinion, continue to do so. Unlike Americans, we didn’t take their land with the gun, but rather, deceit.

  • @dfraser7402
    @dfraser7402 13 днів тому +2

    Great video! Wonderful presentation of the United Empire Loyalist history and role in settling what was to become Upper Canada. Beautiful job linking the broad history to the personal stories of the loyalists. What incredibly resilient people they must have been. High school history classes would benefit so much from seeing this

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому

      Glad you enjoyed it and I must reiterate how impressed I am with your entire group. What ever you’re doing, you’re doing it well. Fencing portion to be released next Friday.

  • @patriciavanlouwe6636
    @patriciavanlouwe6636 12 днів тому +3

    Fascinating history lesson Peter.

  • @behindthespotlight7983
    @behindthespotlight7983 3 дні тому +2

    This is a well thought out presentation. The attention to living history detail is outstanding. A sincere but serious suggestion: 480p is very low resolution for 95% of devices in use today. So the depth of field in this video blurs, tiles and distracts the eye from an otherwise excellent effort. Particularly with a historical walk n talk you want to captivate your audience and hold them. Nonetheless a thumbs up and I’ll watch part 2.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  3 дні тому

      That’s interesting, because we upload to UA-cam in HD. We appreciate the feedback. The camera we use records at 4K, so not sure why you received such poor quality.

  • @jeffgrier8488
    @jeffgrier8488 12 днів тому +3

    Thanks for sharing another wonderful video and more history, we appreciate it!

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому

      As we appreciate your support and interest. Thank you.

  • @smoothvern165
    @smoothvern165 12 днів тому +2

    We learn so many amazing things about our history, through your channel! It’s always so interesting!

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  11 днів тому +1

      Well sir, motivating words to keep us putting out more. Thank you.

  • @patcoon3440
    @patcoon3440 12 днів тому +2

    Thank you for the enjoyable history lesson that gave a flip side account of the American Revolution. I’m an American with paternal Scottish heritage going back to 1743, and maternal English ancestry settling in the Virginia colony in the 1600’s, mingled with Cherokee and Creek Native Americans. Geneology research revealed a distant kinsman who was a colonial British loyalist known as Bloody Bill Cunningham of the Carolinas. He wound up moving to the West Indies after the Revolutionary War.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому

      Fascinating family history. Gotta wonder about your ancestor Bloody Bill, I can only imagine what he did to earn such a nickname! Thanks for sharing.

  • @anulfadventures
    @anulfadventures 5 днів тому +4

    This was actually the "First" American civil war if you think of it. It was violent and cruel, families torn apart like all civil wars.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  5 днів тому +1

      It certainly was the first one on this side of the Atlantic.

  • @badapple65
    @badapple65 12 днів тому +3

    I love the history

  • @jdog881688
    @jdog881688 13 днів тому +2

    Thank you Peter. Another interesting history lesson. Cheers!

  • @hayward434
    @hayward434 13 днів тому +2

    Very interesting as always, and I can compare the video to our own United Empire Loyalist brigade in Shelburne , Nova Scotia.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому

      Thank, Hayward … you folks down east got the bulk of the refugees.

  • @wadeschwartz6281
    @wadeschwartz6281 13 днів тому +1

    Wow ! The last bit in the boat was mesmerizing ,,felt you were right there . What an episode at so many levels . The 1/3 vs 1/3 vs 1/3 concept so prevalent and proven as human response to crisis. The stories so epic . Even more amazing is the thought of those combatants now passed on ,if believers would be face to face as brothers under the banner of Jesus ‘s love . We live in a cruel world ,,but God will one day restore all things ,,May we seek His peace in our little corners of the world now . Thank you Peter !

  • @richardofsylmar
    @richardofsylmar 12 днів тому +2

    What a wonderful we bit of history. Thank you.

  • @kellydietz6720
    @kellydietz6720 12 днів тому +2

    Thank you, that was wonderful.

  • @BruceMurdock
    @BruceMurdock 12 днів тому +1

    As always the very best !

  • @paulwest2575
    @paulwest2575 10 днів тому +4

    I had to Google to find out this What does United Empire Loyalists mean?
    United Empire Loyalists' Association of Canada | The Canadian ...
    Who Were the Loyalists? United Empire Loyalists were American colonists who supported the British cause and Crown during the American Revolution (1775-83). They included approximately 19,000 who served in provincial militia units, such as the King's Royal Regiment of New York and Butler's Rangers.

  • @donbowlby7498
    @donbowlby7498 12 днів тому +5

    My family were loyalists,New Jersey farmers that fled to Nova Scotia then moved back to Ohio in the 1880s.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому

      Wow, four generations later, interesting to know the motivation after such a long time.

    • @donbowlby7498
      @donbowlby7498 12 днів тому +2

      @@TheWoodlandEscape It was all about a woman . Great grandmother was an Irish immigrant, who didn’t want to be Canadian.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  11 днів тому +1

      Ah, a women is it now, lol.

  • @daveyjoweaver6282
    @daveyjoweaver6282 12 днів тому +1

    Everyone and every family has a story and all are so interesting. Each is an epic novel and contain many chapters. Some chapters lost but here we are, this continuing story. Thank You Peter and to your Friends as well. I wonder what our future relatives will be saying about these present times? I believe I mentioned to you that my maternal Grandfather was born in 1892 and lived until 1989. As a boy he knew an old fella whose father was a veteran of the Revolution. So when we talk of 250 years ago, it really isn’t that long ago after all. Our connections to the past are far more currant than it may seem. Kind Thanks and Many Blessings and an Abundant Summer! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому

      You have some longevity in your blood, sir. I trust you live to the ripe old age your Grandfather did. You also bring up some very valid points.

  • @calebfoster552
    @calebfoster552 12 днів тому +2

    We love our northern neighbors. Fascinating history as always sir

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому

      Glad you enjoyed it, we kinda you guys to the south of us as well.

  • @gschwendinger
    @gschwendinger 12 днів тому +2

    Fantastic. Thank you for all your work to share this with us. Very clearly explained in a way that can be easily understood. Really enjoyed this and learned a lot.

  • @ceh5476
    @ceh5476 12 днів тому +2

    A well known example of loyalist/patriot division is that of Benjamin Franklin and his son William. Thank you for an excellent lesson lest we forget

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому +1

      Indeed, I should have tried to bring the story of families torn apart by the conflict that arguably could be called the first American civil war.

  • @jeffersonspace
    @jeffersonspace 12 днів тому +2

    Thank you Peter, and Kathy for the informative video. That time period must have been rough to live through.

  • @stephankramb204
    @stephankramb204 13 днів тому +1

    Thanks! Very interesting!

  • @Scott_fonz81
    @Scott_fonz81 13 днів тому +2

    Great stuff 🙏

  • @ianandresen2326
    @ianandresen2326 12 днів тому +1

    That was awesome! You had me with the boats! Fascinating history!

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed it, Ian … the sail was lovely indeed!

  • @gregwells8764
    @gregwells8764 12 днів тому +2

    very interesting and informative. as always. thank you for sharing your knowledge.

  • @stevenshanofski6801
    @stevenshanofski6801 12 днів тому +1

    Very enjoyable video as always. Had some health issues crop up and have been watching many of your videos to keep me company while I mend. Like having an old friend around. Thank you both for putting so much work in to your videos. They are a treat.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому

      Sorry to hear that, sir. I trust you’ll have a speedy and full recovery. Your interest and support is sincerely appreciated.

  • @victortuten4399
    @victortuten4399 9 днів тому +3

    Great video sir!

  • @user-qs7gx7rp7m
    @user-qs7gx7rp7m 12 днів тому +4

    Just tumbled onto your channel. Life is hard and life can be cruel. Never met you and likely never will because I'm an old, old dog. Served in the KRRNY Province for 35 fantastic years after 1986. Did heavy duty in America and England. Health finally ruined by time, grog and even interesting 'camp following women' who proved make-up can't compete with presonality. Finally left the hobby with an empty purse. Was discharged 'voluntarly' without a pension.
    Would do it all again if I could and perhaps, if fate was kind, get to hang out with you in a second life. So hard to find kindred spirits in 'Boomerkind' today.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому +1

      You do indeed sound like a kindred spirit, sir. It would be grand if our paths could cross someday. You sound like a person I’d love to share a fire with.

    • @user-qs7gx7rp7m
      @user-qs7gx7rp7m 12 днів тому

      @@TheWoodlandEscape Flattered by your quick reply. Know we'd smoke some happy pipes together over cups of grog. Like you, I've done a very deep dive into the past via superb archives and like most all the ghosts met along the way regardless of which side of the fence they sat on . . . dispite errant politics.

  • @aamirkhan1846
    @aamirkhan1846 12 днів тому +1

    thank you mr peter.

  • @jackcook8613
    @jackcook8613 12 днів тому +1

    Thanks for another history lesson, Peter. The way things are going down here in the US nowadays. History may repeat itself .

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому

      You’re welcome to fort up at Kelly’s Station, lol.

  • @JanTrewhitt
    @JanTrewhitt 13 днів тому

    Very interesting, Peter. I will begin searching for Aaron's book, it sounds so interesting. Thank you for the history lesson! Blessings.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому

      Hope you enjoy it! Just order a copy myself from Amazon.

  • @lae52
    @lae52 12 днів тому +4

    Another fascinating history lesson. We know nothing of Canadian History, I'd even wager that Americans are possibly more cognizant of Mexican history. As a history geek having lived in multiple European countries as a kid, I am saddened by the lack of any history emphasis in US teaching. Please keep up the history in the videos. I never fail to learn something with each video.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому

      I appreciate your kind compliment. It is funny how we become so insular in our countries. Histories … there is a big world out there.

  • @russellkeirstead-qi2jr
    @russellkeirstead-qi2jr 10 днів тому +3

    My ancestors settled in New Amsterdam and fled to New Brunswick after the American Revolution. Settled in the area of Keirstead mountain

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  10 днів тому +1

      There are many current Canadians that had their start in the American Colonies.

  • @krockpotbroccoli65
    @krockpotbroccoli65 10 днів тому +2

    On the tar and feathers thing. There were two levels of severity. If regular pine tar (liquid at room temperature washable with soap) it was used it was totally recoverable. However, if pine pitch was used, it was a death sentence since pitch is a solid and needs to be heated to near boiling in order to get it to flow.

  • @petrimurphy6152
    @petrimurphy6152 13 днів тому +1

    Hard times everywhere to have what we got today. God bless, man the fort.

  • @beverlymichael5830
    @beverlymichael5830 12 днів тому +1

    I wish I Had heard history like this when in school. I would have paid more attention. Seemed like it was more important to know dates than the story behind the dates. Then as I got older I began to want to know
    More. Love how you tell history. I only know information on my family back to turn early 1900’s. But I do have photos of civil
    War photos of family. But no stories behind them. Thank you for keeping history alive and interesting.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому +1

      You’re certainly not alone in not knowing our families stories and it is a pity, as they all have fascinating stories that sadly are lost. I do believe that history s being taught better these days.

  • @elwoodtaylor1092
    @elwoodtaylor1092 12 днів тому

    Wow, an other great history lesson, thank you Peter and Erin for captivating step back into a time of many stories told on both sides of the longest unprotected border in the world

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed it. And as you point out we’ve been good neighbors for well over 200 years.

  • @SirFrederick
    @SirFrederick 11 днів тому +3

    Never heard about the UEL before. I have heard about the Royal Fencible Americans, Some of my Regiment (original regiment 1777) were part of that. Came from Connecticut to Canada

  • @6string853
    @6string853 10 днів тому +2

    nice work ☺☺

  • @user-by4xk5kp1z
    @user-by4xk5kp1z 12 днів тому +1

    Hi Peter , again a very interesting Video, Go on 👍👍👍👍

  • @lindareinking5326
    @lindareinking5326 11 днів тому +1

    As an American, I know nothing of Canadian history . Fascinating Thank you

    • @NW_Ranger
      @NW_Ranger 10 днів тому

      The stories of the peoples America, Canada, and Mexico are historically interlocked and inseparable.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  10 днів тому

      I’m glad to have shed a wee bit of light on the subject.

  • @outdoorlife5396
    @outdoorlife5396 13 днів тому +1

    That makes sense. In VA, the Jamestown settlement, almost starved to death, they had to many gentlemen and people who good at metal work, like gold and silver. Which at the time was thought to be the cash. The cash turned out to be tobacco.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому

      Indeed it was king … for a good period of time the entire economy of the Colonies was based on tobacco.

  • @user-qs7gx7rp7m
    @user-qs7gx7rp7m 12 днів тому +3

    60,000 arrived in Canada but some estimates claim approximately 170,000 left revolting America between 1776 and 1800.
    The 'long forgotten' to our great shame, decided new 'America' was simply too revolting. Subsequence experiences proved they were not wrong about the 'Mob'.

  • @rodneybrook6361
    @rodneybrook6361 10 днів тому +2

    I really like the jaunty French harp tune. Great history to

  • @paulfrizzell31
    @paulfrizzell31 13 днів тому +2

    👍great video

  • @asharthesecond1355
    @asharthesecond1355 9 днів тому +2

    Wow you just awesome keep it up

  • @elizabeththequeen943
    @elizabeththequeen943 12 днів тому +2

    My g-g-great grandmother was born in St. Armand, Quebec, because her family had to flee during the war. They eventually moved back to the new United States in the 1790s.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому

      Interesting. There was a lot of movement, in both directions after the dust settled. I’m glad you are preserving this family history.

  • @campkillemall
    @campkillemall 12 днів тому +3

    The first part of the video proves that mankind can be some of the most savage creatures on the planet. The sad part is I don't know if we, as a people, have evolved or devolved.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому +1

      You’re spot on, nothing seems to change as we continue to have history repeat itself. Thank for watching.

  • @lancehenderson7249
    @lancehenderson7249 11 днів тому +2

    My God, did that bread look delicious. Great video, Peter and Kathy. I never really knew much of this. I probably took it in school. But I found this very interesting. Keep your powder dry

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  11 днів тому

      It most certainly was a fine loaf. Watch yer top knot.

  • @bobsmalser8304
    @bobsmalser8304 10 днів тому +4

    Nice Pennsylvania rifle.

  • @laurahunter1690
    @laurahunter1690 8 днів тому +3

    There were many Loyalists whose economic background and business knowledge was instrumental in building the Canadian economy. Especially New Brunswick.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  8 днів тому +3

      Indeed as well as what would become Upper Canada. We appreciate your interest.

    • @laurahunter1690
      @laurahunter1690 8 днів тому +1

      @@TheWoodlandEscape you have a great channel. Thank you

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  8 днів тому +1

      Thank you Laura for the kind words.

  • @DarrelSommer-jd9ny
    @DarrelSommer-jd9ny 13 днів тому +3

    It's funny that I live in America and I learn more about the north American continent from a Canadian rather than an American

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому

      Well sir, I’ll take that as a compliment. Thanks for watching.

  • @Shaden0040
    @Shaden0040 12 днів тому +2

    another of my ancestors would actually hear before the pink pilgrims ever landed at Plymouth But he wasn't living here in a permanent selling settlement in 1590 something I think there's like 1591 a group of English fishermen came over to fish off the band Grog great banks of New England and where they settled temporarily over the summer was what is now the Portsmouth Naval Yard between New Hampshire and Maine It was originally called CV Island which was named after my ancestor Who was the Minister of the group now they would come by every spring fish all summer long dry everything out salt it up all the cod barrel it up and then ship it back to England in the fall where they would then sell it off and make their profits And they did this until 16 23 at which point he stopped went home with it to his wife and there is like 5 or 6 kids grabbed the youngest of them grabbed up the youngest 4 and then came back over to Maine about five years later so it was 1628 and they came and landed in Limerick Maine And that point of family married into the other two families the the two families that intermarried from the Salem witch trials as well as the other family the furlongs all on my grandmother side of the family because they're mostly all up in Maine that's my grandmother's side of the family's main borderline New Hampshire Or is my dad's father's family he's all from New Hampshire exeter NH Nashua NH Newmarket Bloody Point NH so all that area South of Portsmouth Naval Yard And one of the local towns up there is actually named after my dad's family Rollins Ford which covers I think the goes across the the border river between New Hampshire and Maine maine or Massachusetts one of the two it was part of Massachusetts then but it's I think it's main now so it was further northwest of Seabee Island but I don't remember the name of the river offhand.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому

      Awesome history and I sincerely thank you for taking the time to share it.

  • @thatsthewayitgoes9
    @thatsthewayitgoes9 12 днів тому +12

    Very interesting history However, I think a slightly Dominion viewpoint. That’s ok. We need to consider many versions of history. As my mother’s side ancestors were loyalists doesn’t magically give me more knowledge of the topic here, I do study that period from as many versions as possible. Have been, on and off since the 1960’s. I will say, from a totally 1000’ view, the revolutionary side may not have been quite as evil as Canadian historians portray. Your story almost sounds like you’re putting the blame for the congestion, poverty & poor health of New York on the colonial revolutionaries. I can assure you, the colonial revolutionaries were extremely bad off during the war also. I can also confirm, the British were especially brutal in prosecuting the war. Just compare the treatment of prisoners by the British ( almost all died) vs the prisoners (?) in colonial revolutionaries hands. The British murdered colonial civilians, ransacked private property and lied to slaves about ‘freeing them’. Could go on, of course. It’s interesting what you explained about the “Committees”. It sounds like they were highly organized well funded and had over reaching power to impose measures on loyalists. I’ll have to do more study on that. But from what I’ve learned the “committees” were extremely basic, il funded and barely hanging on to principles of the yet new Republic. Probably highly unlikely a “committee” read every piece of communication throughout the disjointed colonies and “targeted” loyalists to impose harsh treatment on them. Seriously, that gave me a polite laugh. Possibly very local action was taken against people who frustrated the cause of the revolutionaries; but I highly doubt there was the communication or resources in a new forming nation that had their soldiers eating old shoe leather to survive. Most of the reports of that time showed during the war and after the war there was not retaliation against loyalists unless they brought it on themselves. I gather the loyalist moved to a Dominion of Britain due to their loyalty rather than due to persecution by the new nation. I really enjoy your history lessons. Thank you!

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому +8

      You bring up many valid points and you’re spot on about the atrocities done by both sides. It was war after all. This episode covers the situation of the Loyalists, perhaps I should do one titled “ What was Life Like for the Patriots during the American Revolution”. You’re also correct regarding the various Committees/Commissions formed as a result of the Continental Congress enacting laws. Was every single document read, most likely not, but my research would indicate an awful lot were. I sincerely appreciate your well worded feedback.

  • @larryreese6146
    @larryreese6146 6 днів тому +1

    Most wars have reasons that can be talked about and which make sense. But when you get right down to it, they're mostly started over economics or religion. Greed, ignorance, and prejudice take care of the rest.

  • @brokentoe570
    @brokentoe570 13 днів тому +1

    Thank you sir. The vedio was great. What they do not teach us in the schools is a shame. I guess as it is said , history is written by the Victor's. I do protry a Butler's ranger here and the looks and remarks are not all good. Being in the Wyoming Valley of n.e. PA. But the truth has to be told as well.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому

      Appreciate your kind words. Busters is a great group to belong to with a fascinating history.

  • @archeanna1425
    @archeanna1425 12 днів тому +1

    My mother's people were Loyalists who went to PEI. I know very little about their experiences but I expect their lives were a lot like everyone else's.
    Question: Somewhere I picked up the idea that, perhaps as an incentive, the British government offered broad voting rights not available in the American colonies, including to women, maybe ex-slaves, that lasted until about 1834. Does anyone know what's accurate about that?
    I really enjoy the way you present our history and I look forward to each episode. Thank you.
    And I just sent a request to my local public library - Vancouver - to add Erin's book to the collection.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому

      Well now, you’ll have me diving into a wee bit of research now. To my knowledge voting rights were only granted to the Male head of the household. Women at that time had little or no rights including the owning of property. Having said that, I’ll be looking into it. Thanks for the question.

  • @deniscaron1306
    @deniscaron1306 12 днів тому

    How many takes to get lower vs upper Canada the right way? LOL, kind o' saw a small smile on your face. Thanks as always to make us discover beautifull places like this and put it in context.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому +1

      Good question! Cathy said that you’d pick up on my mistake, lol.

    • @deniscaron1306
      @deniscaron1306 11 днів тому

      @@TheWoodlandEscape Just fun memories of my stay at the wood land escape, or should we call it now Fort Whynot - Kelly Station

  • @randybrown140
    @randybrown140 12 днів тому +2

    And after the war, we still traded with the British Empire. Maybe a separation peacefully could have happened 🤔

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому

      It does start out by the colonists simply wanting to be treated fairly with no intent as to separation. England stood its ground and the 8 year conflict begins.

  • @steveww1507
    @steveww1507 12 днів тому +1

    It was more then a Revolution it was a civil war for many brother fought brother , farther fought son . If it had ended the other way Im sure it would have been worse for the rebels much worse . I had a great grand farther who fought in the battle of Roade Island he was only 14 .Im proud of him and my country it is no worse then any other country and better then most .

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому

      You certainly bring up some valid points and I appreciate you sharing them.

  • @reedvanness3239
    @reedvanness3239 12 днів тому +1

    This is very interesting. It's an aspect of history that I, as an American, wasn't aware of. I have an ancestor that was killed by a Tory (what we call a Loyalist) in New York State.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому +1

      Interchangeable names up here as well. Like all wars though, atrocities were done by both sides.

  • @57WillysCJ
    @57WillysCJ 11 днів тому +2

    Great video. Saddly this was not new even for the refuges in Canada. The British expelled the French from what at the time was the Acadia region between 1755 and 1764. Even Revolutionary soldiers were not treated well. Sadly many involved were what became known as carpetbaggers. Thievery disguised as legal. Neighbor couldn't stand up for neighbor or they would fall in to the same trap. Really hasn't stopped just different. Profiteering was a constant problem for the Colonial army. Washington suffered from it and really you could look at Benedict Arnold desertion was caused by this. Frankly Native Americans suffered basically the same as well. More than a few homesteaders lost everything when someone with more influence wanted it.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  11 днів тому

      Well put, sir and sadly nothing has really changed in 250 years.

  • @Ilikeit616
    @Ilikeit616 11 днів тому +1

    Howdy Peter
    Great when you have someone on that knows so much and the stories
    Did you notice the gun on the bow of the ship ? Just like the one you have , you are going to put in the window in your fort .

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  11 днів тому +1

      Indeed, Erin was a fascinating guest. That gun on the ship is a lot bigger than mine. I’ll admit it, I’m a wee bit envious, lol.

  • @seanpatterson5948
    @seanpatterson5948 11 днів тому

    Great video as always, and I have a question for anyone reading this I've been looking into getting a black powder rifle the only hang up is that I'm left handed. Does anyone know where I can get one?

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  10 днів тому +1

      Check out Rob Miller on Facebook. He recently mentioned a fellow he sold a southpaw NW trade musket in .62 caliber has it up for sale. Rob doe s amazing work, perhaps it’s still available.

  • @johnclarke6647
    @johnclarke6647 12 днів тому +1

    If there were any Loyalists in my family I have never heard of them. Since I descend from 16 Revolutionary Soldiers and my wife from five and I know these families often married from within their collateral families - there probably weren’t any. If you were a loyalists you would have probably been disowned by your parents if they were patriots, so any record of them would probably be lost from family history and records.

  • @sheilam4964
    @sheilam4964 9 днів тому +3

    Where do you find the records of the American Loyalist refugees in the camps in Canada?

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  9 днів тому +1

      The Government of Canada Archives. There are also groups of United Empire Loyalists that have maintained records. Thanks for watching and for your interest.

    • @sheilam4964
      @sheilam4964 9 днів тому +1

      @@TheWoodlandEscape - yes. I am familiar with the Library of Canada Archives. Do you know the name of the records they are might be found in? I have Irish ancestors that show up in Canada from 1789-1825 but no record of them anywhere prior to the info on the 1851 Census. Land Grants also do not have any record of them.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  8 днів тому +1

      @@sheilam4964 I’m afraid I have the same issue trying to trace my ancestors. All four grandparents emigrated from Ireland in the 1800. I’ve a few copies of documents , but my story ends abruptly a short 3 generations ago.

    • @sheilam4964
      @sheilam4964 8 днів тому +2

      @@TheWoodlandEscape - my problem is ggg born in Ireland but died in Canada with kids born in Canada before 1818. No idea of how they came to Canada (Ont & Que), one gg was born in NY State. Thanks for what you could provide.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  8 днів тому

      @@sheilam4964 wish I could have been more help.

  • @user-bj1ez3yi5o
    @user-bj1ez3yi5o 12 днів тому +2

    Love the history.here is a bit of mine the anstor I portray was a Yankee as I am he fought in the 7 year's war entered the fur trade after. Spent The rev. War in Alberta on lake Athabasca making his fortune.he is reviled in the US as a loyalest but he made his fortune.he was one of the first 16 share holders of the North West company.but was disliked by the other holders because he was a Yankee.Went black to ct.was employed by the government who called him traitor in a military role spoke to eminent professor published his maps of Alberta and adjacent pronounces. All form a so-called loyalist

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому

      Great family history there and I thank you for sharing. People sure do like to label people!

  • @lawrencekeller6029
    @lawrencekeller6029 12 днів тому +2

    Peter this was great. The amount of history you have in brain 🧠 is unbelievable do you have a remote hard drive you down load into LOL my wife, kids and grandkids would say papaw's useless knowledge LOL you and Cathy stay safe. IIBYRDS

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  11 днів тому

      Perhaps my friend, but retrieving it is getting much harder, lol.

  • @ashleyanderson2859
    @ashleyanderson2859 13 днів тому +1

    Appreciate your efforts and dedication! Fence sitting seems to be an issue today as well as in the past. If you are forced to make a decision about your position, you lack conviction. Go along to get along seems to be a growing illness these days. If you can't tell, I tend to run on the passionate side of things. We don't need to force our position on others, but we should have a position. You don't even need to share the position of others, but you should at least have a position. I tend to be outside of many social norms, but I have my stance with well-formed reasons and rebuttals as well as the facts to support them. Do your own research and make your own decisions. Sorry about the rant. Thanks again, and keep your powder dry.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому +1

      Hear, hear to your comments and I most certainly don’t consider it a rant. Watch yer top knot.

    • @playhouseinthewoods6103
      @playhouseinthewoods6103 7 днів тому +2

      I totally agree with you to much of we get comes from sound bites from both left and right. Everything is spun to reflect their bias. A lot of the time the truth is buried in the middle. I feel for the most part we as a whole no longer take the time or energy to get to the truth just take what ever your bias group spits out. A lot of people nowadays bias their position not on facts but but on ever is trending with their group. Free thinkers are few and far between. Good luck to you.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  7 днів тому

      @@playhouseinthewoods6103 You are spot on, in fact the left refuse to even look at the right sound bites and vice versa … impossible to even get at the truth as you point out, somewhere buried in the middle. Appreciate your feedback.

  • @jtsterry
    @jtsterry 12 днів тому +2

    ❤😊😊

  • @jamesfletcher279
    @jamesfletcher279 13 днів тому +1

    Very educational brilliant history just one small thing the Union Jack you are flying is not correct

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому +2

      Thank you so much. The flag we fly over our fort is the Kings Colours which is correct for the mid 1700. The actual Union Jack didn’t come into existence until Ireland joined the United Kingdom, I believe in 1808 or there abouts.

  • @Shaden0040
    @Shaden0040 12 днів тому +2

    Two of my ancestors emigrated with their some of their kids to Canada to Halifax and then resettled into Limerick Maine who they married into the remnants of some of the people who were accused of witchcraft in the Salem witch trials and I'm just about related to everybody in the Salem Witcher house that was accused including two of the accusers which among the accusers the one accuser reconciled with the family of the accused and they intermarried like three of the three of the children intermarried between the two families and I'm related to one of the intermarriages I think it is the two oldest So weirder things have happened and they've all settled in Limerick Maine don't ask me why it was definitely named after Limerick Ireland and the ones of my ancestors that came from came to Halifax came from Ireland but it was before the great famine it was like 1780 so it's after the Salem witch trials But before the great famine was like 1820s or 1880s biggest 1880s anyway they came about 100 years before the famine and came to Halifax I don't know why they didn't like it in Halifax but they moved to the United States because it was a young United States maybe they just wanted to get rid of get away from the British crowd which might make sense because some of their ancestors were English the furlong family but the furlongs were an interesting case they came over to Ireland like around the time of Prince John and sided with the Irish Royals and if you're married with many many of the Klan Chieftains over an Ireland so they're mostly Irish themselves because most of their sons married Irish daughters and their daughters married Irish sons but the line that came down was mostly Irish on the on the English side the furlong side and they came to Nova Scotia Halifax To the exact and then move to Maine go figure is definitely one of the more interesting stories of my family not the most but one of the more interesting tales and that's on my father's mother's side of the family.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому

      An interesting tale of family history indeed. Thanks for sharing.

  • @thatsthewayitgoes9
    @thatsthewayitgoes9 12 днів тому +1

    Clarification, the loyalist refugee camps’ were in the United States or in Canada? I highly doubt there were ‘refugee camps’ in the colonies revolting.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому

      There were indeed refuge camps in British held areas like New York City and Boston.

  • @richardthomas4015
    @richardthomas4015 13 днів тому +1

    If you had to start all over again, I can't think of a better place to do it than Canada! I still don't understand why the colonies didn't take Canada, too!

    • @jamesellsworth9673
      @jamesellsworth9673 13 днів тому

      Some Colonists expected exactly that would happen at some time. Loyalists being Loyal and French Canadians having their own lives, they were not interested in joining the American Experiment.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому

      Well, you made a pretty good try at it in the War of 1812, but failed. We’ve been friendly neighbours since!

  • @matthewbrandon931
    @matthewbrandon931 13 днів тому +2

    The loyalists had a hard time of it. As they should.

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  12 днів тому

      I don’t believe anyone deserves to oppressed.

    • @matthewbrandon931
      @matthewbrandon931 12 днів тому

      @@TheWoodlandEscape the Loyalists did plenty of oppression.

  • @paulwest2575
    @paulwest2575 10 днів тому +3

    #
    I am halfway through this video and I wish you would tell me what was a united Empire Loyalist.? Whose side were they for? Who were they fleeing.? You are taking it for granted that we already know. I know many Christians came to North America because they were Protestants persecuted by the Catholics..Your video starts off by telling us where these different Loyalist made their homes but you have failed to really tell us why? Who were they fleeing?Were they Loyalist because they were Loyal to the King? Or were they Loyalists because they were loyal to upper and Lower Canada???

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  10 днів тому +3

      I take it for granted that in Canada it is simply common knowledge. I don’t believe much Canadian history is thought south of the border

    • @paulwest2575
      @paulwest2575 10 днів тому

      You failed to tell us what was happening.please learn from your mistake and add the answer in your next video.

  • @asharthesecond1355
    @asharthesecond1355 9 днів тому +7

    Pls do native American and how they lived

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  9 днів тому +3

      It is certainly on my list for future episodes. We appreciate your interest.

    • @asharthesecond1355
      @asharthesecond1355 9 днів тому

      @@TheWoodlandEscape thanks 🙏

  • @milliebanks7209
    @milliebanks7209 5 днів тому +1

    I find it interesting that she has no shoes on! Is this the norm?

    • @TheWoodlandEscape
      @TheWoodlandEscape  5 днів тому

      Quite normal indeed on the frontier when weather permitted, shoes were hard to come by and expensive, moccasins were made, but wore out quickly.