Life of an United Empire Loyalist during the American Revolution: Struggle & Survival
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- Peter visits Adolphustown, one of the first landing sites of the United Empire Loyalists fleeing the American Revolution. The first group lands here after spending years in a refugee camp in Quebec. Peter talks a wee bit about the Loyalist experience, both in America and once they arrived in Canada. He also interview Erins Hatton, an avid historian who has written a novel based on her ancestors' experiences, "Across the Deep".
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Good day, Peter! WOW, this is some profound historical information you are sharing in this video today. More, please, as you can do so! I have paternal English and French ancestry that go back to what you speak of. They were in Quebec and Newfoundland and then, for some reason unknown to me, moved to farmlands and orchards on the south shore of Lake Erie in Ottawa County. Deep down inside, I’ve always wondered why I’ve had mixed feelings and thoughts about the revolution. So, now it’s time for me to dust off my family ancestry records to have a fresh look and perhaps be rewarded for a deeper dive into them. Thank you, Peter, for your straight talk; and now I feel even more honored that you and Kathy joined us at table in Sainte Genevieve to have that enjoyable chat. Good day to you, Sir!
The honor was all ours. We quite enjoyed our brief conversation. Your family history sounds fascinating, I’d be taking a deep dive into it as well.
Thank you so much for this wonderful historic presentation! My ancestors were Loyalists, they were chased out by the Cherry Valley Massacre and wound up in PEI. My great grandfather emigrated to America in 1900. Many Haydens still live at PEI today, I hope to visit someday. God Bless!
You are lucky to have been born. That was indeed a very nasty massacre. I thank you for sharing your families story.
@@TheWoodlandEscape Wow, I never thought of it that way. Interesting to ponder.
You are a great man history is so important
You flatter me, sir and I thank you.
Extremely interesting. Love learning history that is glazed over or omitted all together. Thank you you all. 🐾🙏🏻✌🏻
Our pleasure!
Another great one Peter and Cathy. Thanks for sharing
Glad you enjoyed it
Excellent Peter and Erin!
Thank you for the kind words.
I had many ancestors that fought in the American Revolution, what we refer to as the patriots. I had a 5th ggf, Samuel Ellis, I'll give him a shout out. He was on duty one day when George Washington rode up beside him on his horse. Washington pulled out his spyglass and was observing the British. He then handed it to my 5th ggf and told him to take a look after which a long conversation took place. My mother's side of the family came to North America early, I'm a direct descendant of some Mayflower passengers. My father's side came in the late 1800's. I had ancestors in the British military during the American Revolution from my father's side of the family. I joke to myself that my ancestors were shooting at each other, good thing they didn't all kill each other otherwise I may not have existed. Enjoyed your video.
I’m envious that you know so much of your family history. Thanks for sharing. I’d love to interview you someday.
What better way to learn more from Peter. Erin is wonderful to listen to about her family history. So I sit on my front porch during a small rain shower watching your channel. Enjoy your weekend sir,and thank you again.
You as well. Nothing beats a covered veranda in the rain … the word peaceful comes to mind!
Good afternoon from Syracuse NY United States of America my friend and thank you for sharing the facts and truth brother
Thanks for listening
You are welcome my friends
This history of what common folk endured is outstanding! Thank you and your guests for sharing!
Boggles the mind the endurance our ancestors had!
Excellent. My 4th great grandmother Hanna Sipes and her family were labelled Loyalist and driven off their homestead in Susquehanna Territory. Her 3 sons served with Butler's Rangers. She was forced out with her young children and with not much more than the clothes on their back they somehow got to Lachine. I suspect with the help of the folks of the six nations. She spent the rest of the war at Machiche. She married Edwards Stookes there and settled near Niagara after the war. Two of her sons (Jacob and Jonas) settled near Niagara after the war and the third My third Great Grandfather Andrew settled in Matilda TWP, Dundas County. Keep up the great stories. THANK YOU.
Thank you so much for sharing your fascinating family history. I’d love to interview you someday.
Thank you so much for adding to shine a light on the experience of the United Empire Loyalists with this video. Well done! Brian McConnell, UE, President of NS Branch of United Empire Loyalists' Assocation of Canada, historian, and author of 5 books on Loyalists, all available on Amazon.
Thank you for sharing this, sir. I’ll have to pursue your books for my winter reading list.
If their could be any bridges of fraternity still left at the time of separation, it would be the retainment of ENGLISH COMON LAW. The greatest gift England gave to the world among many. God bless America, God save the king. Hearts of Oak.
Hear, hear!
I've added Erin' book to my Amazon wishlist, thanks.
Hope you enjoy it! I just ordered a copy yesterday.
Very interesting take on the drama unfolding during this time. Here's to our respective courageous ancestors who fought for what was best for their families in their own age 🇬🇧 🇨🇦 🇺🇸
Well worded, sir … on both sides of the conflict.
Wonderful video! I have never heard this history. Much thanks to you for sharing! Also enjoyed the bit with the boat at the end.
Glad you enjoyed it
What a wonderful history lesson Peter thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it and we thank you for your interest.
Ah Peter and Kathy, great video and great subject. My own Loyalist Scottish ancestors, the Mac Allisters, were run out of North Carolina. Their trail disappeared for about 7 years and they reappeared, and reinvented themselves in Kentucky after the war.
You better be watching your backside Wade, I’ve heard those Patriots are still on the lookout for those Loyalists!
Thank you Peter your little bits of history have shown me how ignorant I am on important but often glossed over historical facts, without your videos I would remain unaware of so much.
I’m flattered, sir. Thank you.
Good stuff ! Through no virtue of my own other than study, know I'm heir to a wonderful 'Loyalist' heritage. Proud of them all.
Thank you and you should be proud.
I should write a book too. About my families history . Hessian soldiers, German Palatines ancestors. One of my ancestors fought in both the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812. I also have an ancestor who was in with the unit as Joseph Plumb Martin.
Indeed you should sir,, especially if you’ve got documented family history.
Excellent video. Lot of sad truths for sure. Being descendant of southern patriots I am aware that had Cornwalis taken a different approach in the south we likely would have been on the other side or at best neutral.
The sad truth of loyalist displacement as a Native Louisianian It reminds me of my French ancestors forced removal from Acadiana. I suppose at the end of the day people are people. Good people, bad people, all caught up in world issues. I have always had a very healthy respect for British virtue and English common law. I believe the English virtues are very evident in the way Canada treats it's natives, both People and Wilderness. Very good stewards indeed. Thanks for another great video.
I thank you for your well thought out comments. There were many atrocities done on both sides and as you point out, not a lot has changed . As to natives, I’m afraid we treated them pretty bad and in my opinion, continue to do so. Unlike Americans, we didn’t take their land with the gun, but rather, deceit.
Great video! Wonderful presentation of the United Empire Loyalist history and role in settling what was to become Upper Canada. Beautiful job linking the broad history to the personal stories of the loyalists. What incredibly resilient people they must have been. High school history classes would benefit so much from seeing this
Glad you enjoyed it and I must reiterate how impressed I am with your entire group. What ever you’re doing, you’re doing it well. Fencing portion to be released next Friday.
Fascinating history lesson Peter.
Thank you sister, Pat.
This is a well thought out presentation. The attention to living history detail is outstanding. A sincere but serious suggestion: 480p is very low resolution for 95% of devices in use today. So the depth of field in this video blurs, tiles and distracts the eye from an otherwise excellent effort. Particularly with a historical walk n talk you want to captivate your audience and hold them. Nonetheless a thumbs up and I’ll watch part 2.
That’s interesting, because we upload to UA-cam in HD. We appreciate the feedback. The camera we use records at 4K, so not sure why you received such poor quality.
Thanks for sharing another wonderful video and more history, we appreciate it!
As we appreciate your support and interest. Thank you.
We learn so many amazing things about our history, through your channel! It’s always so interesting!
Well sir, motivating words to keep us putting out more. Thank you.
Thank you for the enjoyable history lesson that gave a flip side account of the American Revolution. I’m an American with paternal Scottish heritage going back to 1743, and maternal English ancestry settling in the Virginia colony in the 1600’s, mingled with Cherokee and Creek Native Americans. Geneology research revealed a distant kinsman who was a colonial British loyalist known as Bloody Bill Cunningham of the Carolinas. He wound up moving to the West Indies after the Revolutionary War.
Fascinating family history. Gotta wonder about your ancestor Bloody Bill, I can only imagine what he did to earn such a nickname! Thanks for sharing.
This was actually the "First" American civil war if you think of it. It was violent and cruel, families torn apart like all civil wars.
It certainly was the first one on this side of the Atlantic.
I love the history
Thank you.
Thank you Peter. Another interesting history lesson. Cheers!
Glad you enjoyed it
Very interesting as always, and I can compare the video to our own United Empire Loyalist brigade in Shelburne , Nova Scotia.
Thank, Hayward … you folks down east got the bulk of the refugees.
Wow ! The last bit in the boat was mesmerizing ,,felt you were right there . What an episode at so many levels . The 1/3 vs 1/3 vs 1/3 concept so prevalent and proven as human response to crisis. The stories so epic . Even more amazing is the thought of those combatants now passed on ,if believers would be face to face as brothers under the banner of Jesus ‘s love . We live in a cruel world ,,but God will one day restore all things ,,May we seek His peace in our little corners of the world now . Thank you Peter !
Glad you enjoyed, Wade and thanks your kind words.
What a wonderful we bit of history. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you, that was wonderful.
Glad you enjoyed it, Kelly.
As always the very best !
A fine compliment indeed, thank you.
I had to Google to find out this What does United Empire Loyalists mean?
United Empire Loyalists' Association of Canada | The Canadian ...
Who Were the Loyalists? United Empire Loyalists were American colonists who supported the British cause and Crown during the American Revolution (1775-83). They included approximately 19,000 who served in provincial militia units, such as the King's Royal Regiment of New York and Butler's Rangers.
My family were loyalists,New Jersey farmers that fled to Nova Scotia then moved back to Ohio in the 1880s.
Wow, four generations later, interesting to know the motivation after such a long time.
@@TheWoodlandEscape It was all about a woman . Great grandmother was an Irish immigrant, who didn’t want to be Canadian.
Ah, a women is it now, lol.
Everyone and every family has a story and all are so interesting. Each is an epic novel and contain many chapters. Some chapters lost but here we are, this continuing story. Thank You Peter and to your Friends as well. I wonder what our future relatives will be saying about these present times? I believe I mentioned to you that my maternal Grandfather was born in 1892 and lived until 1989. As a boy he knew an old fella whose father was a veteran of the Revolution. So when we talk of 250 years ago, it really isn’t that long ago after all. Our connections to the past are far more currant than it may seem. Kind Thanks and Many Blessings and an Abundant Summer! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
You have some longevity in your blood, sir. I trust you live to the ripe old age your Grandfather did. You also bring up some very valid points.
We love our northern neighbors. Fascinating history as always sir
Glad you enjoyed it, we kinda you guys to the south of us as well.
Fantastic. Thank you for all your work to share this with us. Very clearly explained in a way that can be easily understood. Really enjoyed this and learned a lot.
You're very welcome, glad you enjoyed it.
A well known example of loyalist/patriot division is that of Benjamin Franklin and his son William. Thank you for an excellent lesson lest we forget
Indeed, I should have tried to bring the story of families torn apart by the conflict that arguably could be called the first American civil war.
Thank you Peter, and Kathy for the informative video. That time period must have been rough to live through.
But Peter's his wife made it through
They were indeed turbulent times. Appreciate your interest.
Thanks! Very interesting!
Glad you liked it!
Great stuff 🙏
Glad you think so!
That was awesome! You had me with the boats! Fascinating history!
Glad you enjoyed it, Ian … the sail was lovely indeed!
very interesting and informative. as always. thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Glad you enjoyed it
Very enjoyable video as always. Had some health issues crop up and have been watching many of your videos to keep me company while I mend. Like having an old friend around. Thank you both for putting so much work in to your videos. They are a treat.
Sorry to hear that, sir. I trust you’ll have a speedy and full recovery. Your interest and support is sincerely appreciated.
Great video sir!
Thank you for your continued interest.
Just tumbled onto your channel. Life is hard and life can be cruel. Never met you and likely never will because I'm an old, old dog. Served in the KRRNY Province for 35 fantastic years after 1986. Did heavy duty in America and England. Health finally ruined by time, grog and even interesting 'camp following women' who proved make-up can't compete with presonality. Finally left the hobby with an empty purse. Was discharged 'voluntarly' without a pension.
Would do it all again if I could and perhaps, if fate was kind, get to hang out with you in a second life. So hard to find kindred spirits in 'Boomerkind' today.
You do indeed sound like a kindred spirit, sir. It would be grand if our paths could cross someday. You sound like a person I’d love to share a fire with.
@@TheWoodlandEscape Flattered by your quick reply. Know we'd smoke some happy pipes together over cups of grog. Like you, I've done a very deep dive into the past via superb archives and like most all the ghosts met along the way regardless of which side of the fence they sat on . . . dispite errant politics.
thank you mr peter.
My pleasure, glad you enjoyed.
Thanks for another history lesson, Peter. The way things are going down here in the US nowadays. History may repeat itself .
You’re welcome to fort up at Kelly’s Station, lol.
Very interesting, Peter. I will begin searching for Aaron's book, it sounds so interesting. Thank you for the history lesson! Blessings.
Hope you enjoy it! Just order a copy myself from Amazon.
Another fascinating history lesson. We know nothing of Canadian History, I'd even wager that Americans are possibly more cognizant of Mexican history. As a history geek having lived in multiple European countries as a kid, I am saddened by the lack of any history emphasis in US teaching. Please keep up the history in the videos. I never fail to learn something with each video.
I appreciate your kind compliment. It is funny how we become so insular in our countries. Histories … there is a big world out there.
My ancestors settled in New Amsterdam and fled to New Brunswick after the American Revolution. Settled in the area of Keirstead mountain
There are many current Canadians that had their start in the American Colonies.
On the tar and feathers thing. There were two levels of severity. If regular pine tar (liquid at room temperature washable with soap) it was used it was totally recoverable. However, if pine pitch was used, it was a death sentence since pitch is a solid and needs to be heated to near boiling in order to get it to flow.
You raise a good point, thank you.
Hard times everywhere to have what we got today. God bless, man the fort.
Indeed and the fort is manned, lol.
I wish I Had heard history like this when in school. I would have paid more attention. Seemed like it was more important to know dates than the story behind the dates. Then as I got older I began to want to know
More. Love how you tell history. I only know information on my family back to turn early 1900’s. But I do have photos of civil
War photos of family. But no stories behind them. Thank you for keeping history alive and interesting.
You’re certainly not alone in not knowing our families stories and it is a pity, as they all have fascinating stories that sadly are lost. I do believe that history s being taught better these days.
Wow, an other great history lesson, thank you Peter and Erin for captivating step back into a time of many stories told on both sides of the longest unprotected border in the world
Glad you enjoyed it. And as you point out we’ve been good neighbors for well over 200 years.
Never heard about the UEL before. I have heard about the Royal Fencible Americans, Some of my Regiment (original regiment 1777) were part of that. Came from Connecticut to Canada
They are the very refugees that made Canada.
nice work ☺☺
Thanks 😄
Hi Peter , again a very interesting Video, Go on 👍👍👍👍
Thanks, will do!
As an American, I know nothing of Canadian history . Fascinating Thank you
The stories of the peoples America, Canada, and Mexico are historically interlocked and inseparable.
I’m glad to have shed a wee bit of light on the subject.
That makes sense. In VA, the Jamestown settlement, almost starved to death, they had to many gentlemen and people who good at metal work, like gold and silver. Which at the time was thought to be the cash. The cash turned out to be tobacco.
Indeed it was king … for a good period of time the entire economy of the Colonies was based on tobacco.
60,000 arrived in Canada but some estimates claim approximately 170,000 left revolting America between 1776 and 1800.
The 'long forgotten' to our great shame, decided new 'America' was simply too revolting. Subsequence experiences proved they were not wrong about the 'Mob'.
I really like the jaunty French harp tune. Great history to
Glad you enjoyed it
👍great video
Thanks 👍
Wow you just awesome keep it up
Thank you so much 😀
My g-g-great grandmother was born in St. Armand, Quebec, because her family had to flee during the war. They eventually moved back to the new United States in the 1790s.
Interesting. There was a lot of movement, in both directions after the dust settled. I’m glad you are preserving this family history.
The first part of the video proves that mankind can be some of the most savage creatures on the planet. The sad part is I don't know if we, as a people, have evolved or devolved.
You’re spot on, nothing seems to change as we continue to have history repeat itself. Thank for watching.
My God, did that bread look delicious. Great video, Peter and Kathy. I never really knew much of this. I probably took it in school. But I found this very interesting. Keep your powder dry
It most certainly was a fine loaf. Watch yer top knot.
Nice Pennsylvania rifle.
Thank you, sir.
There were many Loyalists whose economic background and business knowledge was instrumental in building the Canadian economy. Especially New Brunswick.
Indeed as well as what would become Upper Canada. We appreciate your interest.
@@TheWoodlandEscape you have a great channel. Thank you
Thank you Laura for the kind words.
It's funny that I live in America and I learn more about the north American continent from a Canadian rather than an American
Well sir, I’ll take that as a compliment. Thanks for watching.
another of my ancestors would actually hear before the pink pilgrims ever landed at Plymouth But he wasn't living here in a permanent selling settlement in 1590 something I think there's like 1591 a group of English fishermen came over to fish off the band Grog great banks of New England and where they settled temporarily over the summer was what is now the Portsmouth Naval Yard between New Hampshire and Maine It was originally called CV Island which was named after my ancestor Who was the Minister of the group now they would come by every spring fish all summer long dry everything out salt it up all the cod barrel it up and then ship it back to England in the fall where they would then sell it off and make their profits And they did this until 16 23 at which point he stopped went home with it to his wife and there is like 5 or 6 kids grabbed the youngest of them grabbed up the youngest 4 and then came back over to Maine about five years later so it was 1628 and they came and landed in Limerick Maine And that point of family married into the other two families the the two families that intermarried from the Salem witch trials as well as the other family the furlongs all on my grandmother side of the family because they're mostly all up in Maine that's my grandmother's side of the family's main borderline New Hampshire Or is my dad's father's family he's all from New Hampshire exeter NH Nashua NH Newmarket Bloody Point NH so all that area South of Portsmouth Naval Yard And one of the local towns up there is actually named after my dad's family Rollins Ford which covers I think the goes across the the border river between New Hampshire and Maine maine or Massachusetts one of the two it was part of Massachusetts then but it's I think it's main now so it was further northwest of Seabee Island but I don't remember the name of the river offhand.
Awesome history and I sincerely thank you for taking the time to share it.
Very interesting history However, I think a slightly Dominion viewpoint. That’s ok. We need to consider many versions of history. As my mother’s side ancestors were loyalists doesn’t magically give me more knowledge of the topic here, I do study that period from as many versions as possible. Have been, on and off since the 1960’s. I will say, from a totally 1000’ view, the revolutionary side may not have been quite as evil as Canadian historians portray. Your story almost sounds like you’re putting the blame for the congestion, poverty & poor health of New York on the colonial revolutionaries. I can assure you, the colonial revolutionaries were extremely bad off during the war also. I can also confirm, the British were especially brutal in prosecuting the war. Just compare the treatment of prisoners by the British ( almost all died) vs the prisoners (?) in colonial revolutionaries hands. The British murdered colonial civilians, ransacked private property and lied to slaves about ‘freeing them’. Could go on, of course. It’s interesting what you explained about the “Committees”. It sounds like they were highly organized well funded and had over reaching power to impose measures on loyalists. I’ll have to do more study on that. But from what I’ve learned the “committees” were extremely basic, il funded and barely hanging on to principles of the yet new Republic. Probably highly unlikely a “committee” read every piece of communication throughout the disjointed colonies and “targeted” loyalists to impose harsh treatment on them. Seriously, that gave me a polite laugh. Possibly very local action was taken against people who frustrated the cause of the revolutionaries; but I highly doubt there was the communication or resources in a new forming nation that had their soldiers eating old shoe leather to survive. Most of the reports of that time showed during the war and after the war there was not retaliation against loyalists unless they brought it on themselves. I gather the loyalist moved to a Dominion of Britain due to their loyalty rather than due to persecution by the new nation. I really enjoy your history lessons. Thank you!
You bring up many valid points and you’re spot on about the atrocities done by both sides. It was war after all. This episode covers the situation of the Loyalists, perhaps I should do one titled “ What was Life Like for the Patriots during the American Revolution”. You’re also correct regarding the various Committees/Commissions formed as a result of the Continental Congress enacting laws. Was every single document read, most likely not, but my research would indicate an awful lot were. I sincerely appreciate your well worded feedback.
Most wars have reasons that can be talked about and which make sense. But when you get right down to it, they're mostly started over economics or religion. Greed, ignorance, and prejudice take care of the rest.
You’ve summed it up perfectly.
Thank you sir. The vedio was great. What they do not teach us in the schools is a shame. I guess as it is said , history is written by the Victor's. I do protry a Butler's ranger here and the looks and remarks are not all good. Being in the Wyoming Valley of n.e. PA. But the truth has to be told as well.
Appreciate your kind words. Busters is a great group to belong to with a fascinating history.
My mother's people were Loyalists who went to PEI. I know very little about their experiences but I expect their lives were a lot like everyone else's.
Question: Somewhere I picked up the idea that, perhaps as an incentive, the British government offered broad voting rights not available in the American colonies, including to women, maybe ex-slaves, that lasted until about 1834. Does anyone know what's accurate about that?
I really enjoy the way you present our history and I look forward to each episode. Thank you.
And I just sent a request to my local public library - Vancouver - to add Erin's book to the collection.
Well now, you’ll have me diving into a wee bit of research now. To my knowledge voting rights were only granted to the Male head of the household. Women at that time had little or no rights including the owning of property. Having said that, I’ll be looking into it. Thanks for the question.
How many takes to get lower vs upper Canada the right way? LOL, kind o' saw a small smile on your face. Thanks as always to make us discover beautifull places like this and put it in context.
Good question! Cathy said that you’d pick up on my mistake, lol.
@@TheWoodlandEscape Just fun memories of my stay at the wood land escape, or should we call it now Fort Whynot - Kelly Station
And after the war, we still traded with the British Empire. Maybe a separation peacefully could have happened 🤔
It does start out by the colonists simply wanting to be treated fairly with no intent as to separation. England stood its ground and the 8 year conflict begins.
It was more then a Revolution it was a civil war for many brother fought brother , farther fought son . If it had ended the other way Im sure it would have been worse for the rebels much worse . I had a great grand farther who fought in the battle of Roade Island he was only 14 .Im proud of him and my country it is no worse then any other country and better then most .
You certainly bring up some valid points and I appreciate you sharing them.
This is very interesting. It's an aspect of history that I, as an American, wasn't aware of. I have an ancestor that was killed by a Tory (what we call a Loyalist) in New York State.
Interchangeable names up here as well. Like all wars though, atrocities were done by both sides.
Great video. Saddly this was not new even for the refuges in Canada. The British expelled the French from what at the time was the Acadia region between 1755 and 1764. Even Revolutionary soldiers were not treated well. Sadly many involved were what became known as carpetbaggers. Thievery disguised as legal. Neighbor couldn't stand up for neighbor or they would fall in to the same trap. Really hasn't stopped just different. Profiteering was a constant problem for the Colonial army. Washington suffered from it and really you could look at Benedict Arnold desertion was caused by this. Frankly Native Americans suffered basically the same as well. More than a few homesteaders lost everything when someone with more influence wanted it.
Well put, sir and sadly nothing has really changed in 250 years.
Howdy Peter
Great when you have someone on that knows so much and the stories
Did you notice the gun on the bow of the ship ? Just like the one you have , you are going to put in the window in your fort .
Indeed, Erin was a fascinating guest. That gun on the ship is a lot bigger than mine. I’ll admit it, I’m a wee bit envious, lol.
Great video as always, and I have a question for anyone reading this I've been looking into getting a black powder rifle the only hang up is that I'm left handed. Does anyone know where I can get one?
Check out Rob Miller on Facebook. He recently mentioned a fellow he sold a southpaw NW trade musket in .62 caliber has it up for sale. Rob doe s amazing work, perhaps it’s still available.
If there were any Loyalists in my family I have never heard of them. Since I descend from 16 Revolutionary Soldiers and my wife from five and I know these families often married from within their collateral families - there probably weren’t any. If you were a loyalists you would have probably been disowned by your parents if they were patriots, so any record of them would probably be lost from family history and records.
Indeed … one might say, Americas first civil war.
Where do you find the records of the American Loyalist refugees in the camps in Canada?
The Government of Canada Archives. There are also groups of United Empire Loyalists that have maintained records. Thanks for watching and for your interest.
@@TheWoodlandEscape - yes. I am familiar with the Library of Canada Archives. Do you know the name of the records they are might be found in? I have Irish ancestors that show up in Canada from 1789-1825 but no record of them anywhere prior to the info on the 1851 Census. Land Grants also do not have any record of them.
@@sheilam4964 I’m afraid I have the same issue trying to trace my ancestors. All four grandparents emigrated from Ireland in the 1800. I’ve a few copies of documents , but my story ends abruptly a short 3 generations ago.
@@TheWoodlandEscape - my problem is ggg born in Ireland but died in Canada with kids born in Canada before 1818. No idea of how they came to Canada (Ont & Que), one gg was born in NY State. Thanks for what you could provide.
@@sheilam4964 wish I could have been more help.
Love the history.here is a bit of mine the anstor I portray was a Yankee as I am he fought in the 7 year's war entered the fur trade after. Spent The rev. War in Alberta on lake Athabasca making his fortune.he is reviled in the US as a loyalest but he made his fortune.he was one of the first 16 share holders of the North West company.but was disliked by the other holders because he was a Yankee.Went black to ct.was employed by the government who called him traitor in a military role spoke to eminent professor published his maps of Alberta and adjacent pronounces. All form a so-called loyalist
Great family history there and I thank you for sharing. People sure do like to label people!
Peter this was great. The amount of history you have in brain 🧠 is unbelievable do you have a remote hard drive you down load into LOL my wife, kids and grandkids would say papaw's useless knowledge LOL you and Cathy stay safe. IIBYRDS
Perhaps my friend, but retrieving it is getting much harder, lol.
Appreciate your efforts and dedication! Fence sitting seems to be an issue today as well as in the past. If you are forced to make a decision about your position, you lack conviction. Go along to get along seems to be a growing illness these days. If you can't tell, I tend to run on the passionate side of things. We don't need to force our position on others, but we should have a position. You don't even need to share the position of others, but you should at least have a position. I tend to be outside of many social norms, but I have my stance with well-formed reasons and rebuttals as well as the facts to support them. Do your own research and make your own decisions. Sorry about the rant. Thanks again, and keep your powder dry.
Hear, hear to your comments and I most certainly don’t consider it a rant. Watch yer top knot.
I totally agree with you to much of we get comes from sound bites from both left and right. Everything is spun to reflect their bias. A lot of the time the truth is buried in the middle. I feel for the most part we as a whole no longer take the time or energy to get to the truth just take what ever your bias group spits out. A lot of people nowadays bias their position not on facts but but on ever is trending with their group. Free thinkers are few and far between. Good luck to you.
@@playhouseinthewoods6103 You are spot on, in fact the left refuse to even look at the right sound bites and vice versa … impossible to even get at the truth as you point out, somewhere buried in the middle. Appreciate your feedback.
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Very educational brilliant history just one small thing the Union Jack you are flying is not correct
Thank you so much. The flag we fly over our fort is the Kings Colours which is correct for the mid 1700. The actual Union Jack didn’t come into existence until Ireland joined the United Kingdom, I believe in 1808 or there abouts.
Two of my ancestors emigrated with their some of their kids to Canada to Halifax and then resettled into Limerick Maine who they married into the remnants of some of the people who were accused of witchcraft in the Salem witch trials and I'm just about related to everybody in the Salem Witcher house that was accused including two of the accusers which among the accusers the one accuser reconciled with the family of the accused and they intermarried like three of the three of the children intermarried between the two families and I'm related to one of the intermarriages I think it is the two oldest So weirder things have happened and they've all settled in Limerick Maine don't ask me why it was definitely named after Limerick Ireland and the ones of my ancestors that came from came to Halifax came from Ireland but it was before the great famine it was like 1780 so it's after the Salem witch trials But before the great famine was like 1820s or 1880s biggest 1880s anyway they came about 100 years before the famine and came to Halifax I don't know why they didn't like it in Halifax but they moved to the United States because it was a young United States maybe they just wanted to get rid of get away from the British crowd which might make sense because some of their ancestors were English the furlong family but the furlongs were an interesting case they came over to Ireland like around the time of Prince John and sided with the Irish Royals and if you're married with many many of the Klan Chieftains over an Ireland so they're mostly Irish themselves because most of their sons married Irish daughters and their daughters married Irish sons but the line that came down was mostly Irish on the on the English side the furlong side and they came to Nova Scotia Halifax To the exact and then move to Maine go figure is definitely one of the more interesting stories of my family not the most but one of the more interesting tales and that's on my father's mother's side of the family.
An interesting tale of family history indeed. Thanks for sharing.
Clarification, the loyalist refugee camps’ were in the United States or in Canada? I highly doubt there were ‘refugee camps’ in the colonies revolting.
There were indeed refuge camps in British held areas like New York City and Boston.
If you had to start all over again, I can't think of a better place to do it than Canada! I still don't understand why the colonies didn't take Canada, too!
Some Colonists expected exactly that would happen at some time. Loyalists being Loyal and French Canadians having their own lives, they were not interested in joining the American Experiment.
Well, you made a pretty good try at it in the War of 1812, but failed. We’ve been friendly neighbours since!
The loyalists had a hard time of it. As they should.
I don’t believe anyone deserves to oppressed.
@@TheWoodlandEscape the Loyalists did plenty of oppression.
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I am halfway through this video and I wish you would tell me what was a united Empire Loyalist.? Whose side were they for? Who were they fleeing.? You are taking it for granted that we already know. I know many Christians came to North America because they were Protestants persecuted by the Catholics..Your video starts off by telling us where these different Loyalist made their homes but you have failed to really tell us why? Who were they fleeing?Were they Loyalist because they were Loyal to the King? Or were they Loyalists because they were loyal to upper and Lower Canada???
I take it for granted that in Canada it is simply common knowledge. I don’t believe much Canadian history is thought south of the border
You failed to tell us what was happening.please learn from your mistake and add the answer in your next video.
Pls do native American and how they lived
It is certainly on my list for future episodes. We appreciate your interest.
@@TheWoodlandEscape thanks 🙏
I find it interesting that she has no shoes on! Is this the norm?
Quite normal indeed on the frontier when weather permitted, shoes were hard to come by and expensive, moccasins were made, but wore out quickly.