How Much Does Weight Effect Mountain Biking?
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- So just how much harder is it being a heavier rider? Well we measured Neil's power output, heart-rate and time over the same course and then sent Neil into a cafe to put on some weight and repeated the experiment to find out!
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It's no secret that weight is an important factor in cycling performance, just ask our colleagues at GCN. But of course, they were reluctant to throw their legs over a mountain bike and so we had to strap a bullet proof vest on Neil to find out.
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Three years ago, at 170kg, i wasn't almost even able to sit on a bicycle, now at 115kg I can do 60-70km rides with over 1000m of climbing. Slowly, but I can.
How often did you ride at 170kg?
At 152kg I was able to ride a bike for 7 minutes. 😂
Back in 90s I weight about 70kg and I rode MTB on hardtail. Then i got fat all the to 152kg. I decided to start riding again to loose weight. In 2018 I got hardtail again and as I said 7 minutes was my max 😂
Now I'm ok to ride 20 miles but this lockdown doesn't make me any better
Well done!
@@MartinTeerly wow
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@@MartinTeerly lockdown= more riding to take your mind off your awful government lmao🎉🎉🎉
Try going form 120kg to 95kg in 6 months, I feel like I'm riding an e-bike going up hill. It's brill.
im 60kg and it usually feels like i have a concrete bike
I was 100kg now I’m around 94 huge difference in my endurance and climbing ability
Congrats dude👌
Richard billington how did you do that I'm currently 120kg and would love to get down to even 100kg but congratulations on what you have lost
Working on the same progress now. Started around 120, only down to 110 but it’s only been a month so feeling good.
As a big guy (91kg when I'm fit), I appreciate that you're looking into the struggles that we face. I'm always trying to catch smaller guys, and I feel pretty good about myself when I do!
Do a reverse of the experiment. Train for a month carrying the extra 15kg. Then do the test again and see how the figures differ weighted to unweighted. It may show a way of more effective training.
But it may also be damaging on the knees though. Be careful.
I'm not sure Neil is going to want to do that...
Deepdiver49 what a horrible month of training that would be lol
But he would be mega fit then, no?
Global Mountain Bike Network Very fit or very injured probably. Training weighted could be a useful tool (particularly weighted climbs) - but training weighted all the time probably isn't smart. You probably want to ride the same way you race a good percentage of the time so that you're used to that setup and how it feels come race day. I can imagine that if you were used to descending 15kg weighted and then tried to ride without the weight you'd feel very off. Training specificity and all that. Your bike would be taking a hammering too and you'd have to make quite major changes to your suspension and tire pressure whenever you took the weighted jacket on or off. I think you're probably better off training normally.
As someone who is about 6 and a half feet tall and almost 300lbs. (The least I have weighed since junior high), I can tell you, we lardos ride slower, jump less, spend far more money and time for injuries and repairs, and can't climb worth a damn. I still love riding, though.
John Crapper I rode with a friend your size, dude went through brake pads every 6-8 hours of gravity trail riding. It's like putting car brakes on a fully loaded semi.
Drew Patterson true. I need to have the most potent brakes of anyone I know, or I'm better off just rubbing my foot on the ground. That's why I'm glad my Hardrock has those sweet hydraulic discs. They work well even when I ride for beer in a snowstorm!
Thank you for putting this out there. Getting sick of people thinking that heavier riders are used to their weight when doing any activity.
Big men unite!
This is truth... Freaking sucks... Lol
Neil as a guy that is overweight I can testify that you do work harder. I started mtb 5 moths ago and have lost several inches on my waist things are getting easier gears that I struggled with on a up hill are now too easy. Yes my muscle has gone up that is why I didn’t mention lb lost but I find I don’t huff and puff as much on climbs and I find I can ride longer now. I am looking forward to losing the rest of excess weight.
Congratulation for using metric weight units and not stones, rocks, pebbles or freedom units.
99% of the planet does understand you now. 😘
Liquid solid gas
Yesss
is freedom units what we use in the US haha
If the extra weight is fat that would be a reasonable test. If it was muscle we would be starting to compare a climber to a sprinter. Very different performance outcomes. But no powerful sprinters will ever beat a lightweight fit sprinter up a hill.
Brenda Vane truth. I've been known to snap cheaper drivetrain components, but all that power still can't beat my skinnier friend up most hills.
Functional weight vs non-functional weight
You need the combination of power and endurance
the best examples
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I disagree. The fastest guys on the climbs have a ton of power in their legs and fit as well. A lot of those guys can sprint as well. Look at Nino Schurter. He is a powerful climber but one of the best sprinters as well.
As a police cyclist, wearing a vest, duty belt, and bag with a pannier attached to my bike, definitely slows me down substantially and makes me work harder. When I ride my personal bike with no gear it's such a breeze compared to at work.
Cool to see you guys do this. I got into moutain biking to loose weight. I started about two months ago at 301lbs I’m now at 270 so I lost about as much as that pack weighed. You have to consider for every lb lost on a rider they gain strength/endurance.
I may be fat, I may have to work harder, but I still have a crapload of fun!
Craig H one of my buddies is heaveir set and he kicks a lot of the smaller dudes ass uphill and down
Me too bro I'm 260 pounds but I still get out there and have fun. I might not never win a race but I show enjoy riding.
You made a mistake with the on screen graphics. It said "Descending" when Neil was talking about climbing.
I always seem to weigh 93kgs, after years of doing very little I weighed it and struggled on climbs, after a year of commuting 10 miles each way every day I still weighed 93kgs but it was a very different 93kgs and I suffered a million times less.
I weigh 98 kilos and the difference between me now on the bike and when I was 66 kilos, before I took up bodybuilding, is staggering. However since seeing this video, and doing a little mental arithmetic, I feel a lot better about how I ride.
By the end of the semester at my uni I've gained about 5 kilos reaching full 100 and yesterday on my mtb trip (50km, 1200m ascend) only my knees let me know the difference - last hour was just unbearable... So stay fit guys!
Kuba Gajda lmao, sounds like me. I was 215 by April, now I weigh 190. I lost 20 lbs over 2 weeks when i was mountaineering.
Tend to find that larger guys do have more power available to them for the short and sharp punch sections due to the everyday strain of carrying around more weight. Smaller guys may not have that same level of peak power but it’s not as hard to shift the weight.
This is all circumstantial evidence I have found from dropping 3 stone since I started riding.
Did you find the results of our experiment interesting? Let us know your thoughts
Global Mountain Bike Network haha saw you guys filming this
Can u make a video of the behind the scenes of how you make you're video's
Which heart rate monitor did you use for this test Neil, thanks
Nope! not only useless. bloody boring as well
What results? That if a skinny guy carries a 15kg backpack he’s got to work harder, not exactly ground breaking research. I fail to see what this has to do with a persons weight. Seems like an irresponsible body shaming exercise if you ask me.
As a 6 foot 3 345lb guy I try extremely hard to keep up with other riders around me that are in the 180 to 230 lbs bracket. They always say how impressed they are at how well I do. I feel you need to have a great amount of strength and endurance as a heavy rider.
Neil in ten years
I also would love to know what it feels like to ride at 85kg... only 24kg to lose...
I know, it's taken me months to get to 85kg and I'm now only at his fat rider stage. I will say at 95kg going uphill just killed me. Downhill, I had no problems though. I figured I'd try to lose some weight this year given that people will spend hundreds of dollars to shave a few pounds off their bike.
I’m at a 115kg and yes, I am slower than my mates climbing. And tires and rims get a fair beating :) (natural tracks in norway is roots, rocks with some dirt around :) Huck Norris is a rim saver!
I recently lost about 25 lbs and I'm still a relatively heavy guy (205 lbs 5'10") and I can tell you for a fact that it is A HUGE difference on the bike, especially for climbing. I've also noticed my back doesn't tighten up nearly as much as it used to. Far vid Neil!
Those woods look amazing!!
Forest of Dean
Coming from a guy that is overwieght and riding,
Being type II diabetic I let myself go and was about to lose my job over it.
so i absolutely had to change 100%
I lost 32 pounds in 10 weeks, very low carb diet.
Started riding again for the exercise, and i use to race motorcycles off road when i was younger.
So I had the skills requried for Mtn biking.
Struggle when i first stared very much.
Well as the weight came off i didn't notice much at first. BUT
Now my test loop with some climbing but nothing for a regular rider,
before i would be in first gear, and struggle. Now I can do the
route on the second chain ring 3x7 and second on the rear,
I'm not as winded/tired doing it, people have to remember
a fat guys body that is mildly active is use to carrying the
extra tonnage around so as you lose it you really start to
see it as you have the strength in there just being used up
carrying your own fat.
so your test is a little skewed because your rider was not
acclimated to carrying the extra weight already, he muscles
are toned and to his light mass.
Great video regardless. Thanks
Terry M you need to go whole food plant based as this will cure your diabetes
I could've told ya that. In full kit with my ruck I'm rockin about 400lbs. Just walking around is a workout, lol. I don't normally walk around with my ruck, as I'm bringing it when I travel. So, still.... 320lbs....
The guy at 3:41 🤣
Been a bit on the porky side all my life but just do the best I can. I do notice it if I loose a couple killo's from time to time riding my bike. Good to see the results and I know why my weedy mate of 58kg can fly up the hills but I can mix it with him on the down hill as long as he waits for me at the top.
Willian. Direction your mate is clearly not the weedy one
It’s so much easier to ride when you’re lighter! I lost 30kg over a year and it just transforms riding. Yeah, bigger riders can be very fast on the climbs and downhill, but they’d still be faster if they weighed less. Plus, if you’ve ridden while heavy then lost weight, you’re used to hauling up hills, it feels so much easier after. It almost takes away the pain because you can’t help but think about how different it feels!
And then theres me did one 70km 1900m ascend, and one 100km 1500m ascend ride this year at 110kg. My average ride is 30km and 900m ascend. Wonder what the rides would feel like with 40kg less :D
GMBN did not claim that this is a perfect test, but it is indicative of the additional challenge involved with carrying extra weight, in a general sense. There are other permutations, but overall, it reinforces the reality that most top cyclists are as light as they can reasonably be.
GMBN, you guys seem to have the equipment and/or resources available to do the tests. I would recommend you choose a 100 kg fit cyclist and a 60 kg fit cyclist. Choose them on their ftp datas to determine their W/kg and then go measure the power data, the oxygen consumption, heart rates when going uphill at the same moving speed. Then you can set the percentage of their FTP they should stick to and send them on the same course. In this way you will see how much more work a heavier rider needs to put out and how much slower he is for the given effort. In addition you can measure with the same cadence and power and see what happens. For contrast, do the flat course where momentum plays a role.
you put on screen descending when you speak about ascending and descending when you speak about descending :)
add 35 kg :) I about 230lbs, but been lifting since I was 13 , now I'm 32.. Riding has helped me with cardio doing mma also
Can U guys make a video comparing how weight on the wheel VS frame/components affect MTB?
Have you considered power to weight ratio?? Obviously being bigger you may have more power
that is true
But fat won't produce power, so if it't litteraly just extra fat you won't have the same power to weight at all..
@jan the biking man Oftentimes more fatty people also have more muscle mass than skinnier people which makes up for it to a certain degree. At least if you are somewhat active or even work out a little bit. During my weightloss of about 30 kg in total (so far) I lost about 10kg of muscles as well as 20kg of fat despite working out pretty hard. According to my trainer that's quite normal.
But the experiment is about weight not fat so if it's about power and weight then surely the experiment isn't valid as he's not used to the strain of and extra 15kg of dead weight. Also if it's about 15kg of dead weight fat then it's more a question of fitness obviously if you carry more fat than what your optimal functioning weight your gonna struggle. So what's the experiment all about?
The test is to show the effects of excess weight rather than overall power to weight of bigger riders
Thanks Neil, glad you guys are doing more on cross country.I am 153 lbs and and my friend 135 lbs .It makes a big difference when it comes too climbing, he always out guys me on the climbs.
lol you both are twigs!😂
3:43 lmao!! look at this dude
Such an interesting vid Gmbn!! Cant wait for more
Keep in mind that while you did bump up to 85kg, you were still a fit 85kg rider, not one who sat around for months without getting on the bike. That being said, this is a very good test. I like this test because what it seems to really show is what it's like to have extra weight against your body, same as if you have a gut. I'm sure the results would vary a bit if you had that weight on the bike itself, so it's nice to differentiate the two.
Also what a charming bloke outside the cafe. :p
Creaking Press Fit Bottom Bracket?
Couldn't hear what the guy was saying. What a squeaker!
115 kilos and 6’-4” tall I’m always riding big heavy bikes with heavy wheels and tires, climbing is always difficult but get the hell out of the way when I’m going down. You should see me on a snowboard I pass everyone. Going to see how much extra weight I can kick over the summer. I hope to be lighter by October in MN you have to be pretty motivated to ride during the middle of winter.
Another thing to think about if you're carrying around excess adipose / fat: That tissue also needs to be oxygenated as well and takes away from the muscles that are (obviously) meant to make go forward.
VO2 max will improve (up to a point) if excess fat is whittled off.
Variables need to be kept in check. Used to be a big fan of the comparisons - despite their fictional nature. Now it just grates me. Will stick to the dss and ask! Cheers guys
Hmm, maybe training with added weight could help in more stamina and power for enduro racers. Never seen that training method used in biking though.
it's not very recomended. added weight can cause injuries due to a forced position.
Pedro Cortes Ah okay, that s why i haven t seen it used anywhere.
should do some video on whether there is any training benefit to riding while wearing a weight vest
now imagine being 46 with chronic back pain the last 21 years..260lbs riding off and on road.thats ME..:)
The EFFECT of weight. With an E. Also, the first half of the analysis was for the climb, but the screen showed “descending”. Cool video though! Look forward to the next version!
I think the good question to answer would be if adding weights on body for training is equal (or better, or worse) to training in high gears.
Curious what is the difference between these training styles. Only could find info in old forums with two opinions: 1) I do the training with weights and I feel/see results; 2) better go incline faster or in higher gears.
Welcome to my life! LOL Great video
Excellent content! People go on and on about their light weight bikes.... Bike weight = bike + rider.... Much more effective to take weight off the rider.
I know I just said it but gosh that creaking would drive me nuts! I’d have to pull my bike apart and service every inch of it to find the source of the noises
To compare me @92kg and a friend who is @65kg , he definitely goes through less brake pads and he talks more going up climbs. But the extra weight gives more speed going downhill especially from landing/ pumping transitions clean
this video is the like a bodybuilder saying "i wonder if i add weight to this bar , will be harder to lift?"
I notice a difference in my own riding every 10 or so pounds. However, as a powerlifter I sometimes add mass, i wonder how body fat % comes into play . Someone who is 230 but 10% bodyfat should have an advantage over someone who is 180 and 15%
;o} I'm the big tall guy on the trail and dragging all that extra weight does make a difference. Now, just for encouragement for us clydesdales, 30 years ago when MTBing was in it's infancy, I started MTBing at 118kg. A few of my riding chums were semi-pro riders. Yes, I was always catching up/them waiting for me at points. Well, one day while we were riding, I wasn't dropping out of the pack and I wasn't the last up the hill and I was also 102kg. now. I was riding with semi- pro riders. They noticed this to. So perseverance is necessary. If you have extra long legs like me, 40" , a 185-200mm crank will go a long ways in giving that little extra leverage needed to haul us truck sized guys up hills easier. Great video, reminds me of what it takes for us plus sized guys to ride. BTW, get bike fitted, it'll make a huge difference in being comfortable on a bike.
That just gives me a great idea: Riding with a weighted vest. Because the body will adjust to the extra weight and get stronger, I believe what's a win-win. Train enough with it, get stronger, then take the vest off and... Hmmm... I'm gonna have to find out. Awesome vid and great tips, as always!
Might want to check the graphics? They say 'Descending' on both the climbing and descending analyses.
I was really hoping to hear about how the extra weigh affected your bikes suspension.
Great item very Portable and easy to clean.
Interesting compassion. As an amateur rider who does not look for every single gram in my bike, and as a tech nerd, I think that the best option for a hard tail is a Rohloff. It would be definitely awesome to see a comparative between an XX1 with their 500% vs a Rohloff with a 526%. Even more awesome would be a Pinion P1.18 vs Rohloff vs XX1...
Looking forward to see statistics about Gearboxes
You should record your GPS tracking, and put all those data side by side and play it, even with a little map :)
Im weighing in at 19st and heavily built muscular wise n I do struggle sometimes. Im reasonably fit n run x3 a week. Weight does effect your riding it always has done for me but its never stopped me going n hitting hard om those trails. Great vid guys 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻😎
Realistic for "overweight" or out of shape. In that state, you would likely have less lean muscle and strength in core and legs (and everywhere), and this is well replicated with the vest. Your body is tuned to your weight, and increasing it without adding strength will force you to work harder. Scaled up with a person that is larger and stronger, they should see a similar effort and power. Nice video.
Great topic Neil. Being a larger cat I’m jealous of lighter riders. I really gotta work it. I’m certainly not the fastest up but not I’m not the last to come down.
Loving the xc content! Keep it coming
love the fact you are riding the XC bike with the all mountain tectal helmet
I have fox 36 float 180 mm on my dartmoor hornet HT and I bottom out a lot should i add more air or token ?
Im currently 120kg and find it verry hard to buy a full sus mtb, im afraid that I buy one and it cant handle my weight and or breaks. Any advise and/or bike suggestions? Or should i hold on with buying a bike and loose some weight first?
Hi Neil and team! Love your videos (let's get that out of the way :)) REALLY!
Anyways... Was wondering if you want to add another parameter to your test? The time spent on the seat. I suspect you may not be able to put the power down simply because due the extra weight, you are spending more time resting on the seats.
I am a very unfit rider so that's what I feel is my problem. I tend to rest on the seats and not adopt the 'attack' position. Which makes it hard to control the bike and also to power the bike.
Thank you.
Amos
Singapore
Finding time to take your sun glasses off and back on during the unweighted montage was really cool, well done Don
Thanks Neil, i've been waiting for this one....
This is a good test for comparing carrying all your kit in a pack vs on bike or not carrying as much.
Could have asked me :) Nice video! For general information, I do weigh 143 Kg (2021) and that never stopped me :) Another thing, when is GCN going to actually become more inclusive and have larger riders - I mean large, real large - as presenters or at least featured? Do make gear that fits us and we will buy it :) we like GCN stuff too!
According to Strava, on most of the segments I ride, I am well down the list but within my weight category doing a lot better and as I briefly scan some of the segments I ride, very few riders over 90 kilos are occupying leading places. Whatever the video proves by adding weight in this way, what we can see is that heavier riders are by and large slower.
So what about effects to the bike with the extra weight? What's the take on braking ability, and the durability of the seat and suspension?
last year I dropped 10-15 pounds. Made a huge difference. I am trying to get in the 150s , coz I feel that will optimal for my running/ riding . Food obsession makes it hard.
I'm down to 132kg but at 6'8 115kg would be pretty trim for me, so i feel at a disadvantage. Having said that i can feel the difference having lost 11kg+ already. Result, the more i ride the easier its going to be, wave as you pass me on the single track 🚵🏽
Really awesome to do this test! I am a bigger guy than I should be and this is good info to see.
Im going to a bike park tomorrow, noticed I’m bottoming out. I have a 2018 lyrik rc and can’t figure out how to install bottomless tokens. Any help appreciated
This is actually an excellent comparison of a rider wearing super light shorts, shirt, helmet, and no pads vs a person that's fully kitted up in heavy clothing, pads, and backpack with hydration. I notice this difference every time I go out without my backpack and pads. If you're looking to train harder, kit up.
the problem with this test is the weight isn't distributed along the various limbs. if you have a taller rider the weight will be mostly in their legs and rear end. if you have a bulkier, shorter rider their arms and mid section will be larger. so the results are going to be drastically varied based on body types.
Power to weight ratio goes down with more mass, but your body adjusts and grows stronger to compensate for eight gain, to a certain extent. It's not like eating a bowling ball and going to ride. That is essentially what he is doing.
You could make a what if video with a soldier. They usually haul 30-60 kg backpacks.
Behind enemy lines on a bicycle hahah. Don't know what would that video prove, but could be entertaining.
To get a really good comparsion in my mind would be as following. Get your Watts per Kilo, and upgrade your weight with an ebike which can be tuned to put the watts in that the extra weight needs. So we get like 2 people with the same skillset and the same power output per kilo but different system weight. But i think you would need a special software to get this programmed into a normal ebike. In the way this test was done its more like an overweight person not riding bikes normally vs Neil. A heavier rider will normally have more power output because his body is used to the weight.
I'd be interested in seeing the comparison between these results and the bike weight results as the difference in where the weight is changes your body's efficiency. Maybe even heavy bike vs heavy body vs heavy pack.
I have also wondered why more people don't do hyper-gravity training for cycling/mountain biking. It's incredibly common place for a number of other sports with similar focus on strength to weight ratios (e.g. rock climbing).
Awesome content. Cheers!
Just wondering, although it's a hardtail, have you tuned the suspension before the second ride to match that big increase in weight? Even on a cross country trail, having it too soft will make it much harder to ride.
I am not a weight weeny . I believe that rather then make the bike lighter I will just get stronger and it has paid off. I have great endurance a strong heart, big lungs , superhero legs and my upper body is not bad either.. One of my favorite things on the trail is when a guy in lycra on a gravel bike tries to flex and blast past me ( without announcing his approach mind you ) on the trail while am loaded down with bikepacking gear and moments later I am wheel hugging him with out braking a sweat and he can not shake me. My backpack probably weighed more then he did but It makes me chuckle.
Got to be honest, I love GMBN, love Blake and the other presenters, but Donno and Doddy are my favourites. They’re where I get my main training and maintenance info from. Though I am a 48 year old 90kg weekend warrior (too many years in the gym…. and a bit of fat…). Sorry if I offend but……
I do all-day rides in the mountains with friends so we have to carry everything that we possibly will need with us, including water, food, tools, and DSLR. The load is more than 8kg. I got used to it, but at the same time, I lost 10kg over the past year through dieting. I'm not sure if training with heavier weights will yield the kind of results people expect, but losing weight makes significant difference in my overall stamina and strength.
My issue is that the parts dont hold up to an agressive riding and a heavy rider (110kgs) , also have an issue keeping the frontwheel down on the uphills when im quite tall aswell
As a few others have pointed out, this 'test' isn't even a little bit accurate. If you're light then that's what you're body is used to working with. The same applies to being heavy. If a heavy person all of a sudden gains 50lbs in 5 minutes.. well, you know. As a bigger guy I do think there is an effect but you can be a bigger person and be in reasonably good condition. One thing to consider is the difference in balance that bigger people deal with vs. smaller people but again... we're used to it.
Is that the red trail at FOD
Patrick Hogan yes!
Was a mix of the red and the blue actually, looks the descended the blue from the top.
craigjensen321 I thought I recognised the jump section on the red and the climb
do a geek video finding a rider with similar body fat amount as you but 15 kg heavier and then do this trail to see who can keep up on which part of the trail . use the bpm and power production data aswell.
Oh boy... Slapping on weight doesn't mean shit. It's not muscle weight. You don't add power. Compare Annie Last and Yana Belomoina. 59kg vs 46kg. By your logic, slapping on some weight on Yana would make her identical to Annie. So yeah. Useless test.
dear gmbn, i am a 135kg rider and ride a focus bold sl 2017, do you think my bike is at risk of breaking?
Hey the kabab squad, we couldn't say, necessarily. Some brands have a weight limit on their frames. It's worth checking this before purchasing.
Heavy is 185 pounds? Try being 300 pounds (136kg)! I have already lost 80 pounds and still losing, but us CLYDES are still out there trying! I live in a very hilly area along a mountain range. What has REVOLUTIONIZED my bike life is #ELECTRICBIKES ! I'm not talking the throttle no-pedal bikes, rather the PEDAL-ASSIST bikes like the #Boschebike - equipped bikes. I ride a #Trekbicycles Police hardtail with a Bosch Performance Speed motor (essentially a #PowerFly 5 hardtail). This bike has changed my life! Literally... The previous insurmountable hill routes are now conquerable! Best of all, I can join with other cyclists in rides and not get dropped the first big hill, or cause them all to wait for me to catch up, and I can keep up with them. At 53yo, that is LIFE TRANSFORMATIONAL!
But, my weight does make me FAST on the downhills! Scary fast sometimes... And yes, a Clyde bike must often be custom built with beefy parts. But a big shout out to #TrekBicycles for making bikes capable of 300 pounds and for their awesome e-Bike efforts!
More weight will always equal more effort required. I upgraded to carbon rims this year and I can tell a huge difference in riding. It's less fatiguing for sure!!!
How much of the power loss and BPM increase are attributable to lack of cooling with the vest on? I think that skews the test results somewhat.
I appreciate the test, but would like to see one with an actual heavy person. Compare the geek outputs between someone new to the sport (like can ride mod/intermediate trail) and Niel or Blake or Rich. Ideally, the noob should be someone trying to get healthy who's day job is something where their work centers around a desk/office (computer guy/administrator/secretary). Bonus points if you could do his and hers versions. I have a feeling the stats are gonna be wildly different between a fit pro doing a test with extra weight vs regular Joe who's "grown" into their body.
Hey Neil your crank set needs an overhaul!
Did you put more air in the tires since you add more weight?
I think people adapt to their own weight
Great data.. thanks