Something about George saying, "Oh someone left the door unlocked, that's not good" knowing he's the only person going in and out ever.. that was really sad.
I had aspirations for relationships, yet I've never felt connected to anyone, there's no reason for me to latch onto a facade that will never happen. I'd rather be apart of reality, than a facade of fantasy, and if reality is I'm meant to be alone, then I'm meant to be alone. It's the reality of my situation, there's no need to fool myself of delusions of grandeur. And I've never once blamed my loneliness in anyone but myself. These people are pathetic. Taking out their percieved issues upon others, they deserve no sympathy. May they forever be obscure and forgotten.
@@InVinoVeratas You are suffering from delusions of grandeur tho because you are feeling sorry for yourself. You are also speaking on behalf of people you don't even know. Like that first guy was literally insane. It's baffling to me how some of these people will say nobody loves them and then people say they are just all wrong, like, that's a cry for help and if all you outraged people really cared then you wouldn't have let them slip through the cracks... as far as i'm concerned in situations like that the general populace is partly to blame but ya'll mfrs will never take responsibilty for anything lol you just like to act rightious while other people do all the hard work for you.
That shit sounds like some sort of Tim & Eric thing or something, so fuckin bizarre and especially jarring in contrast to the absolutely horrific act he did
It really isn't like that, for every loner. I've been mostly isolated for most of my life, while I may vent my frustrations a little more readily than some, I also have gone through a lot and still I don't think of my issues as the result of anyone else's doing, but my own. Accountability is what is lacking here, these people have little grasp on reality, and thus blame issues that they feel re out of their control as "someone's fault". I understand that feeling, in a different sense, in the sense that I don't blame others, I just blame myself. I don't lash out outwardly, I would rather hurt myself than others, but I retired that mindset, ages ago, when I was 18, after my second serious sewer side attempt. I can't refer to it as the no no word, so say out sewer side and see what words relate to it. I'm still isolated, but I don't blame others for it, this is entirely my own accountability. I don't blame others for my personal predicament.
@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 socializing needs to happen, face to face, 90% of communication is done physically, which is why it's harder than ever before for people to connect, on a meaningful level.
@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 you're already not like these people, these people lost grip on reality, you haven't. You aren't deluding yourself with facades or ideals of you destined for greatness, as long as you stay grounded within the confines of what you perceive as being tolerant of others as much as yourself, you're already leagues ahead of these people, the fact you ask that question to begin with, is what separates you, from the deluded individuals seeking to commit violence in the name of recompense they think society owes them. Don't judge yourself tok harshly, you're not like these individuals, and honestly, the saying "the more you think it, the more it becomes true" is true, when it comes to ingesting both radical fringe ideals, to also improving and believing in yourself. You have to believe in the good within yourself, and feed that positivity, otherwise you will succumb to the other less accepting ideals. To put it metaphorically, there is a slighty corny, but very true native tale (I'm native) that involves two wolves. One wolf represents the positive and accepting parts of yourself, and the other is the negative judgmental sides of your inner being. Which side you feed the most, is the side that will likely take predominance in your personality.
I feel as if they could never be that. Looking deeper into Lindsay's case, they really fed into each other's messed up fantasies and darkness. I mean heck, they literally met off a tumblr community glorifying the Columbine shooters.
well i mean he was posting on the internet where well over 30 million women could see his posts. maybe he could be referencing that? it makes sense bc he never got a girlfriend in the time he was posting, whether it be an online gf or irl
Lindsey frightens me because I fear I could have become like her had I continued down the path I was on when I was a younger teen. I never had solid friendships, could never bond with other girls my age, never liked by boys and was the singular mixed person in my year at school (my mother is El Salvadorian and I lived in a small town in Ireland). I wasn’t bullied, but I didn’t find myself relating at all to other children and often felt like I was on the outside looking in. I used the internet as an escapism for my lack of relationships, falling down rabbit holes like gore and extreme violence. I remember stumbling across a community of colombiners and interacting with a couple of posts. I think when I was 16 or 17 I had this weird moment where I realised I wasn’t helping myself at all and I was making the possibility of forming meaningful connections even worse for myself. It’s been about 2 years now and I would say I’m doing much better than then. Sometimes, when people fall into extremist ideals like that, all they need is a helping hand or assistance getting mental help. doesn’t work for everyone, but it helped me out majorly
It's good that you did realise just where were you getting yourself im. And yeah, it definitely is true that all they need is someone there to help them, the issue is that more often than not that helping hand isn't anyhwere close.
@ you are extremely correct on this. I don’t know how I pulled myself out of the rabbit hole, but it’s made me realise truly how difficult of a task it was to do without another person helping.
19:34 It's interesting to see Vance Stone there. To those who don't know who Vance Stone is, that's the account owned by William Atchinson, the perpetrator behind the Aztec High School shooting that occurred in late 2017.
9:14 This case is yet another example of how poorly we treat our veterans... He tried to tell them he has PTSD, they tell him "Nah, bro you are just depressed having a hard time adjusting". THAT is crazy to me, seems very human to lose your mind to the violence of war IMO. Great Vid so far tho, Subscribed
From the sounds of it, he had some form of paranoid disorder before ever going into the military. Though the dehumanization tactics used in basic training along with whatever other stresses he might have dealt with did not help matters at all.
I'd trust medically qualified doctors with a diagnosis over a mentally unwell former soldier. Telling someone their symptoms don't match an illness isnt treating them poorly.
@@peterdinkler4950 Ive been completely lonely and not going out at all for around 9 years at this point...that's why i was wondering. Especially with hard core depression...i feel like they must have at least some mental illiness (other than depression).
I'm lonely and isolated; given up on the human race. I turned to kitty cats. I volunteer at a rescue. I go on TNR missions. I socialize scaredy cats so that they can be adopted. Make it and keep it positive and constructive! Loneliness and isolation does not have to make you a killer!! Good luck and be safe, people 💖
Not in a rude way, but how many people have you honestly met? There's nearly 8billion of us, I don't really understand giving up on humanity because of probably less than 1000 people. That's like giving up on food because one grain of rice was poisonous once.
@@HonkeyKongLive Watching the video now, it does look like a prop. However, I think that's due to us not being used to seeing actual gore, as the only gore we see is in fictional media. So, anytime we see any real gore, we often have a hard time believing its authenticity.
homie... no but seriously, it gives me pain when I think about that stuff, time flies by way too fast... the 2000s all the way up to 2013 were the best years of my life.
She was probably a fan of him because of the rejection she saw from others. Their racist behavior towards her caused her to mirror it to an EXTREME. Definitely thinking “People would love me if I was just white”
When they can't even convincingly pretend to see women as people, they have no chance with women despite all their other positive qualities like wealth, fitness, hobbies etc... women will date some absolute shitshow men, but guys like him and Rodgers must be so blatant and off-putting in their inability to comprehend human empathy that it overrides anything attractive they have going on.
Well there are some points I understand he’s saying like he’s trying his best to be kind and physically fit, both desirable traits, but a lot of times if people aren’t friends or dating you it’s cuz there’s something missing and ominous. Which in his case, definitely true. He seemed he tried to be genuine but still viewed people surface level and at what they can offer. Which maybe happens when you’re lonely.
"Did it fifty to sixty times in my twenties" "had multiple girlfriends" "have nice house" "have material wealth" "not ugly" still goes on an incel rampage because he, an older man, can't still get with teenagers and won't bother to date someone his own age. Just goes to show 1. it's a psychological issue not remotely based on reality and 2. having all those things won't stop you from being unhappy. Dude had absolutely nothing wrong with his life. Some kind of life dysmorphia where he was convinced he was a teenage incel.
Yea it was actually kind of sad to hear his words about what he thought was his problem, he was obviously not in touch with his emotions at all, and people picked up on it and found it off putting. But doing what he did that's where the compassion ends..
You can't just cure your own autism. He couldn't help his psychological issue. You need a young woman in order to have children without disorders. Think about the fact that when he was young, he still couldn't get a young woman. Just admit women discriminate against autistic men
Yeah I’ve probably done it less times than this guy and he’s acting like a wreck. Nithjng wrong with dating older or younger as long as it’s legal and consensual. And you’re right. Nothing can make you happy except choosing to be happy yourself
The site Twilight Sucks had a history of people making up insane stories about unhinged "Twihards" attacking people...... little did they know one of their own mods would do it in reality
I worked with Randall a few years before the planned sh--ting, dude had the autism hard. I felt bad for him at the time since I helped him in training. It was a call centre for a limo company and he had 0 social skills. It felt like he meant well, but the customers frequently got rude with him. I'm glad that James came clean and warned the police before doing his business.
Sad how Lindsey was bullied because of similar ideologies she supports, yet she went on to support them and then instead of deradicalising james and her slowly and live regularly esp since shes very successful academically, they cldve changed and lived life for the better. So horrible. Good on the friend for telling tho, hopefully hes changed and she's changed too and got better and isnt super lonely and horrible anymore during treatment.
@@RedStarAero If your son/daughter turns out as a murderous psychopath, you as a parent have at least *some* responsibility. Unless they have a genetic mental problem, which I don't think is the case here.
@@claudiomonteverdi7126 okay but the thing is, why do parents always has to be blamed and not the children????? Sometimes kids come from happy family but ended up rebelling against their parents and mix with the wrong crowd at the end. And mind ya, kids also can play Victim card and blame on their parents. And I hope when you say this, you would also help to discipline your own children, including myself too
9:35 he's obviously never heard of the People Power Revolution in the Philippines, not one person was harmed and it was 100 percent a peaceful Revolution.
this is like a trip down memory lane. i was in the tcc side of tumblr during that time and followed james even sent him an ask once. i was sad at the news,they both could've had a normal life together without planning something so terrible. good on the friend for ratting them out though.
I appreciate you covering topics that I have not seen any other channel do. Your research is always thorough and you present facts straightforward and in an unbiased manner. I hope you continue doing what you’re doing.
great upload as always!!! the trollhättan school attack was so disturbing and sad... especially because these things rarely happen in scandinavia, i remember about 1-2 days after the incident a kid had brought a knife to school and our teacher confiscated it in the middle of class giving all of us a heart attack.. because we all knew what had happened a few days before... turns out he was a scout and had activities after school, our teacher just ended up scolding us really bad.
Yeah, we even learned about it when i was in 4th grade (swedish school system) which also shows how everyone despices what happend that day. It is almost calming to think that homocide is so rare in school here in comparison to the US.
A very thorough and dedicated research you’ve done here which is what I like about your channel! Not at all like others I’ve seen that do this on a surface level
Proud of you for showing up to work and being so cheerful! I love it when people don’t hate life! Sending a big hug your way tonight! Love from Las Vegas ❤
I don't think it's just that, there has to be more to it, because loneliness is a global epidemic, but most don't commit horrible acts as these regardless.
Not knowing the full medical situation of Mohn, I almost wonder if (knowing about his background in football) if he may have CTE, a serious medical condition that comes about due to repeated concussive trauma to the head. One of the most immediate signs of it is a sudden drastic change in personality. The accounts of friends and family describing him as pleasant to be around to suddenly in college to this darker paranoid version of himself makes me think that. Another part of me wants to say maybe schizophrenia but signs of this “newer” version of him would have revealed itself much much sooner. The unfortunate reality of CTE is that it is not officially diagnosable medically while a patient is alive. I would be curious to see a brain scan of him upon his death to see if this was perhaps what caused this sudden change in his behavior.
Hiding from your emotions and being lonely is never a good thing. You have to conquer it not run from it. Thats how you better your life and get true fulfillment and love.
@@zer00rdie Whenever people talk about dark internet shit, they mainly talk about either 4Chan, UA-cam, or Reddit. They never talk about Twitter or Tumblr, which has a fair share of disturbing shit on its platform.
Oh man I was on that forum where “blondeguardian” was, I remembered the username instantly. She had a gif of Varg Vikernes as her icon if i remember correctly. I don’t remember much else about her unfortunately.
How to pick up young girls as a man over 30... i got shivers reading that one. And the dad beheader i remember learning about. Homehow i wasnt as suprised about such news, even though i never heard about the dude before. Maybe im just numb to it all
@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 what does wisdom have to do with one person sticking their nose where it doesn't belong over their own personal hangups? ;^)
I can relate to Lindsay’s backstory, since I had a similar childhood. Being half Japanese, half white and growing up in a small mostly white town, u get bullied for being not white. So I had really low self-esteem and hated myself for being mixed race. Fortunately For me though I moved into the city for my High School years. It was much diverse and infinitely less racist too. There I ended up being somewhat popular and girls actually liked me too (though that took awhile for me to realize since my self esteem was so low). But that’s probably what would of saved Lindsay. She should of moved, small Christian towns alienate people who are different from them and even those who dare to support them. it’s extremely toxic. I know not all small communities are like this. But many are. Like in Idaho where I’m originally from.
19:22 Actually the perpetrators of the 1999 incident, were neo-nazi's. This type of stuff of girls especially those who are neo-nazi's is actively prevalent today, especially on tik tok and twitter especially after the Serbian school incident where people supported the perpetrators actions, with them simping him despite the perpetrator being a 13 year old, and would berate the victims, with some even supposedly harassing the parents of the victims, meanwhile have received zero to no coverage by any news media.
Her attempted massacre and her arrest occurred on the exact same day as an actually successful terrorist attack in Copenhagen, which the media focused on, while the Halifax story was barely covered in world news, so this event has remained somewhat obscure.
This video is a good reminder that, while many shooters may have faced trauma and isolation, deep down they are seriously, seriously pathetic people. I mean, they are just losers.
I remember when the whole Justin story came out…my school is in levittown PA and I actually live in philly… i heard about it from kids in my school honestly it was so fucking creepy to know just how close you can be to someone so messed up. I dont know exactly what the saying is but they say you pass some amount of murders in your lifetime, and that is seriously no joke.
The average, Some say you’ll unknowingly pass by 36 murders in your lifetime. You’ve probably already have came across a few. Creepy af to think about. Go birds btw lol
Whoever submitted that anonymous tip absolutely saved lives, that was a relief. It's not often that you hear about these plans being stopped just before they happen.
justin might have had CTE from his time in football and then combined with a psychotic break that sometimes just randomly happens in adults who where otherwise uninhibited beforehand
I watch a fair amount of crime videos and that. This one made me exceptionally sad. It felt like a lot of people that, for whatever reason, took very dark turns down the wrong path. In the end, they wasted the lives of others and their own lives as well. When does a person reach a point of no return, psychologically, spiritually?
i’m from nova scotia and this is my first time hearing about lindsey. i only go to the city maybe twice a year at best, but i’m never gonna set foot in the hsc the same way ever again knowing what they planned to do in there
It’s weird that I live in Sweden (born and raised) and yet I don’t remember having heard of that attack in Kronan High School. Then again, I’m bad at following the news, or remembering the news that I’ve actually heard about, lol
All these examples seem to have isolation as the common cause of why these individuals became so extreme and violent. But how to prevent this in the future? People like these are already walking red flags before their crimes to others and are often shunned by society for that very reason and not integrated in social groups. But we can't expect people to just let them in as this goes against how normal people behave. So, how to prevent this from happening again? I have no answer.
Undiagnosed autism in pre-millennial people seems to be the reason for a lot of tragedy. So many people who are socially awkward and with social anxiety not understanding why. And, sometimes, blaming everyone around them. Consumed with rage at what they saw as their rejection by society. Like George. I often think that if they had only been diagnosed, they would have understood what was going on and other people around them would have understood them better
22:00 *alternate universe where Chris Chan didn't get put in the closet by roache, didn't win the sonic sweepstakes, never made the album wish sonichu, and went to college for business instead of computer aided drafting*
Another thing to note at 19:35 the comment showed a guy replying to a user named Vance Stone, also known as William Atchinson, who did the same thing lindsay and james wanted to.
Mm, I know someone who’s a little too much like these people for my liking… recently distanced myself because it’s clear she had no intention on improving- and I lasted the longest out of our entire group. I wonder what she’ll do now that she’s pushed away all her friends?
The picture at 19:03 of the blond guy with glasses and a blue hoodie is not Randall Shepherd. It's a different person (with the username "evil toe") who was also on one of the same websites as Lindsay and just coincidentally resembles a younger Randall. This guy wasn't involved.
I always wondered; how did Lindsay and Randall feel about James after being apprehended and learning he had passed away, and basically left them alone to serve jail time? Especially considering they seemed to be close.
I live in Trollhättan were the Kronan school attack happened, and hearing you talk about it is really insane. I still remember where i was when it happened, i was in school ( not Kronan) and i remember we were not allowed to leave without our parents coming to pick us up, we were not told why until after.
The case of George Sodini is like a case study of Maslow's hierarchy of needs, without being able to achieve love and belonging he felt incomplete, whilst I do not condone his actions it is very understandable as to how he was driven to the point that he was, effectively just went mad in isolation. It's clear that he didn't see women only as sex objects and desired a partner more than that, but people seem to zero in on one comment he made about not having had sex for 18 years as if it was his only motive.
@@Ishbikes where did I say I related to him? You're jumping the gun, being able to sympathise with someone doesn't automatically mean you're relating with them. I literally said I don't condone his actions so clearly I do not relate to him.
I think the scariest thing about his story is that it is the most relatable. He didn’t seem to have evil intentions. He seemed very aware of his situation. He was just missing something vital to make it all work.
One thing to point out about Lindsay's attempted Halifax attack is that it actually received very little media coverage and remained in obscurity for a while due to taking place on the same exact day that an actual shooting occurred in Copenhagen which left 2 dead, which drowned out the Halifax story in the media.
Honestly though if it weren't for underlying mental illness he'd just be the dumb conspiracy theorist that occasionally said funny shit we all know and roll our eyes at.
schizophrenia as an illness really needs to be taken more seriously. cases like justin's would become less frequent if we were better about getting our loved ones help
Holy shit, I heard Justin Mohn fancied himself the next Chili Peppers, but hadn't actually heard any of his "music". His delusions certainly extended to his own talent. Also, I think SIRIUS misinterpreted a phrase by the way he emphasized the words. "I see her at the park and ride sometimes" is most likely, "I see her at the park-and-ride sometimes" i.e. at a parking lot attached to a public transit terminal.
Imagine telling yourself that all stories of victims fighting bullies have gone well.. That's some interesting mental hurdles you're telling to yourself. Whatever fits the narrative I guess.
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3:57 Mommunist the Communist is absolutely frying me
😭😭😭😭
Tell me that song doesn't slap all day long!
He sounds like David Tanny. Not good...
I DONT WANNA LIVE AT HOME FOREVERRRRRRRR
He's a fckn clown lost in his own head
Something about George saying, "Oh someone left the door unlocked, that's not good" knowing he's the only person going in and out ever.. that was really sad.
I had aspirations for relationships, yet I've never felt connected to anyone, there's no reason for me to latch onto a facade that will never happen. I'd rather be apart of reality, than a facade of fantasy, and if reality is I'm meant to be alone, then I'm meant to be alone. It's the reality of my situation, there's no need to fool myself of delusions of grandeur. And I've never once blamed my loneliness in anyone but myself. These people are pathetic. Taking out their percieved issues upon others, they deserve no sympathy. May they forever be obscure and forgotten.
@@InVinoVeratasexactly
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@@InVinoVeratas You are suffering from delusions of grandeur tho because you are feeling sorry for yourself. You are also speaking on behalf of people you don't even know. Like that first guy was literally insane.
It's baffling to me how some of these people will say nobody loves them and then people say they are just all wrong, like, that's a cry for help and if all you outraged people really cared then you wouldn't have let them slip through the cracks... as far as i'm concerned in situations like that the general populace is partly to blame but ya'll mfrs will never take responsibilty for anything lol you just like to act rightious while other people do all the hard work for you.
@@InVinoVeratas I really REALLY disagree, i hope you find friendship or family someday
I thought my singing was bad, but Justin. Oh god.
That shit sounds like some sort of Tim & Eric thing or something, so fuckin bizarre and especially jarring in contrast to the absolutely horrific act he did
yuno miles got competition
Just because his is bad doesn't mean yours is good😅😅
Even DANIEL LARSON sounds better than this 💀
@@Fieldperson *ROARING THUUUNDERRRR, NOOORTHEERN LIGHTS*
This is basically: "What isolation and alienation would do to a MF: The Video".
And yet, people still don't want to be my friend. It's so hard to socialize with people nowadays.
It really isn't like that, for every loner. I've been mostly isolated for most of my life, while I may vent my frustrations a little more readily than some, I also have gone through a lot and still I don't think of my issues as the result of anyone else's doing, but my own. Accountability is what is lacking here, these people have little grasp on reality, and thus blame issues that they feel re out of their control as "someone's fault". I understand that feeling, in a different sense, in the sense that I don't blame others, I just blame myself. I don't lash out outwardly, I would rather hurt myself than others, but I retired that mindset, ages ago, when I was 18, after my second serious sewer side attempt. I can't refer to it as the no no word, so say out sewer side and see what words relate to it. I'm still isolated, but I don't blame others for it, this is entirely my own accountability. I don't blame others for my personal predicament.
@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 socializing needs to happen, face to face, 90% of communication is done physically, which is why it's harder than ever before for people to connect, on a meaningful level.
@@InVinoVeratas so what the hell do i do? I don't want to become like these people in the future!
@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 you're already not like these people, these people lost grip on reality, you haven't. You aren't deluding yourself with facades or ideals of you destined for greatness, as long as you stay grounded within the confines of what you perceive as being tolerant of others as much as yourself, you're already leagues ahead of these people, the fact you ask that question to begin with, is what separates you, from the deluded individuals seeking to commit violence in the name of recompense they think society owes them. Don't judge yourself tok harshly, you're not like these individuals, and honestly, the saying "the more you think it, the more it becomes true" is true, when it comes to ingesting both radical fringe ideals, to also improving and believing in yourself. You have to believe in the good within yourself, and feed that positivity, otherwise you will succumb to the other less accepting ideals.
To put it metaphorically, there is a slighty corny, but very true native tale (I'm native) that involves two wolves. One wolf represents the positive and accepting parts of yourself, and the other is the negative judgmental sides of your inner being. Which side you feed the most, is the side that will likely take predominance in your personality.
I used to think that every artist that made music was someone's biggest fan. That clip of his music has changed my mind
he was his own biggest fan I guess.
it was atrocious lolol
It was dire.
nice bottomless pit pfp 💯
That song made me laugh so hard...which is nice in the middle of such a dark video!!
"Lindsay herself was anything but ordinary................. Born in Iowa..."
It explains everything.
Child of the Corn.
We are born of the corn, made men by the corn, undone by the corn. Our corn is yet to harvest. Fear the old corn.
@@excalligator5529 PHILD CORN!!!😍
@@rw__504 Why does the internet have to be like this. I just wanted to make a Bloodborne reference.
The fact that Lindsey and James committed these heinous crimes when alternatively they could’ve just shared a happy life as a regular couple is sad
Dark triad personalities in a nutshell: it’s not enough for me to become happy; the rest of the world has to feel the pain I’ve felt.
I feel as if they could never be that. Looking deeper into Lindsay's case, they really fed into each other's messed up fantasies and darkness. I mean heck, they literally met off a tumblr community glorifying the Columbine shooters.
I mean, they were nazis so nothing about them would be 'regular.'
thats what happens when you both are too mentally unstable i guess
Lindsey is hot how could she not have any friends make no sense .... where her parent who come they are not aware of this
No casino should have a daycare center wtf.
It honestly makes sense when you consider the number of gamblers who have children.
Besides, it's not illegal to bring a child into a casino.
@@SwaggyG_2102 if you have kids that depend on you, why would you ever gamble? Plus, if you do, there are better places to bring them then the casino
@@SwaggyG_2102where I live it's illegal to actually gamble in front of one, idk about just bringing them in tho
@@Razumutaz Why would you give an unsolicited opinion? Same logic. Maybe mind your business.
@@kachunkkdude are u defending gambling with kids lol
"An active moderator on the website Twilight Sucks" Now THERE'S a throwback right before new knowledge I can never come back from
cool slenderverse pfp
@@shaggyrogers3236 thanks man
Wow memory UNLOCKED 🔓🤯😭
I think I remember her, and that is a fucking throwback for sure. Creepy to know this is what happened…
I don't know how someone could be so full of themselves as to really think, and write, "I was rejected by 30 million women."
Definitely.
yea he has to have been mentally ill at that point to think that or maybe he just exaggerated to get any pity
well i mean he was posting on the internet where well over 30 million women could see his posts. maybe he could be referencing that? it makes sense bc he never got a girlfriend in the time he was posting, whether it be an online gf or irl
Mental illness plus other issues like autism or something that makes him think differently from normies.
I've been rejected by far more women. Just because you are Chad, Destroyer of Vaginas, doesn't mean everyone is. Be thankful you live a normal life.
Lindsey frightens me because I fear I could have become like her had I continued down the path I was on when I was a younger teen. I never had solid friendships, could never bond with other girls my age, never liked by boys and was the singular mixed person in my year at school (my mother is El Salvadorian and I lived in a small town in Ireland). I wasn’t bullied, but I didn’t find myself relating at all to other children and often felt like I was on the outside looking in. I used the internet as an escapism for my lack of relationships, falling down rabbit holes like gore and extreme violence. I remember stumbling across a community of colombiners and interacting with a couple of posts. I think when I was 16 or 17 I had this weird moment where I realised I wasn’t helping myself at all and I was making the possibility of forming meaningful connections even worse for myself. It’s been about 2 years now and I would say I’m doing much better than then. Sometimes, when people fall into extremist ideals like that, all they need is a helping hand or assistance getting mental help. doesn’t work for everyone, but it helped me out majorly
It's good that you did realise just where were you getting yourself im. And yeah, it definitely is true that all they need is someone there to help them, the issue is that more often than not that helping hand isn't anyhwere close.
@ you are extremely correct on this. I don’t know how I pulled myself out of the rabbit hole, but it’s made me realise truly how difficult of a task it was to do without another person helping.
You are Stunning and Brave.
Keep a close eye on this one FBI
@@Onceuponatin I am much better now the fbi can turn a blind eye to me pls 😭
19:34
It's interesting to see Vance Stone there.
To those who don't know who Vance Stone is, that's the account owned by William Atchinson, the perpetrator behind the Aztec High School shooting that occurred in late 2017.
Yo that’s … wow that’s fuckin creepy. Small world ….
damn i learned something new today! 😮
Which account?
That's because they're all patsies for the fbi.
9:14 This case is yet another example of how poorly we treat our veterans... He tried to tell them he has PTSD, they tell him "Nah, bro you are just depressed having a hard time adjusting". THAT is crazy to me, seems very human to lose your mind to the violence of war IMO.
Great Vid so far tho, Subscribed
I think he already had a mental illness, they already conclude it was not because of PTSD (he claimed he got PTSD from looking at graphic pictures?)
From the sounds of it, he had some form of paranoid disorder before ever going into the military. Though the dehumanization tactics used in basic training along with whatever other stresses he might have dealt with did not help matters at all.
I'd trust medically qualified doctors with a diagnosis over a mentally unwell former soldier. Telling someone their symptoms don't match an illness isnt treating them poorly.
@@americanfreedomworldpeace You can get ptsd from pictures. you can get ptsd from a lot less than pictures.
@@americanfreedomworldpeace yea like i watch lots of horrible videos on internet and i don't get PTSD
It's so puzzling how people get so fixated on things they make up in their mind....
That’s mental illness man. People get so hung up on stuff that’s completely made up
loneliness. when no-one else gives you ideas, you make your own. You should see how fast people *become* delusional in solitary confinement.
@@peterdinkler4950 Ive been completely lonely and not going out at all for around 9 years at this point...that's why i was wondering. Especially with hard core depression...i feel like they must have at least some mental illiness (other than depression).
Which specifically?
@@lucaswallo8127 Which of the people in the video? If yes...pretty much most of them rail themselves into idea of something.
I'm lonely and isolated; given up on the human race. I turned to kitty cats. I volunteer at a rescue. I go on TNR missions. I socialize scaredy cats so that they can be adopted. Make it and keep it positive and constructive! Loneliness and isolation does not have to make you a killer!! Good luck and be safe, people 💖
Wish you all the best!
That’s nice. However, when someone is kind to you, make sure you take notice of that as well
Not in a rude way, but how many people have you honestly met? There's nearly 8billion of us, I don't really understand giving up on humanity because of probably less than 1000 people. That's like giving up on food because one grain of rice was poisonous once.
I love this so much! U seem rlly sweet ^^
Totally relate to this, have a wonderful and understanding dog to keep me going.
I've actually heard about the Justin Mohn case earlier this year, but I did not know that a video was made beforehand.
I actually caught the video before it went down. Shit didn't even seem real. It looked like a prop.
we meet again i see
I just watched it on Reddit
@ZachGatesHere
Didn’t look like a prop to me
@@HonkeyKongLive
Watching the video now, it does look like a prop. However, I think that's due to us not being used to seeing actual gore, as the only gore we see is in fictional media.
So, anytime we see any real gore, we often have a hard time believing its authenticity.
bro... i just realized, 2010 will be 15 years ago in 6 months...
dude....
homie... no but seriously, it gives me pain when I think about that stuff, time flies by way too fast... the 2000s all the way up to 2013 were the best years of my life.
Bro stop, just stop. Christ I’m 33 help me.
Jeez…
Yeah that's wild, man 😂
i was thinking lindsey seemed pretty normal until you mentioned she was a fan of that austrian fellow
The more I hear about this Austrian bloke, the less I like him
I thought everyone was a fan of Arnold Schwarzenegger.
For some reason i feel like he may have done something bad.
If you think he was crazy and embittered, look at the ones who like him.
She was probably a fan of him because of the rejection she saw from others. Their racist behavior towards her caused her to mirror it to an EXTREME. Definitely thinking “People would love me if I was just white”
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The way he describes himself and the people around him is so similar to the way Elliot Rodger did..
When they can't even convincingly pretend to see women as people, they have no chance with women despite all their other positive qualities like wealth, fitness, hobbies etc... women will date some absolute shitshow men, but guys like him and Rodgers must be so blatant and off-putting in their inability to comprehend human empathy that it overrides anything attractive they have going on.
has a similar voice too
you took the words right out of my mouth
They both were resentled towards women, so maybe there was some inspiration from Sodini to Rodger
Well there are some points I understand he’s saying like he’s trying his best to be kind and physically fit, both desirable traits, but a lot of times if people aren’t friends or dating you it’s cuz there’s something missing and ominous. Which in his case, definitely true. He seemed he tried to be genuine but still viewed people surface level and at what they can offer. Which maybe happens when you’re lonely.
"Did it fifty to sixty times in my twenties" "had multiple girlfriends" "have nice house" "have material wealth" "not ugly" still goes on an incel rampage because he, an older man, can't still get with teenagers and won't bother to date someone his own age. Just goes to show 1. it's a psychological issue not remotely based on reality and 2. having all those things won't stop you from being unhappy. Dude had absolutely nothing wrong with his life. Some kind of life dysmorphia where he was convinced he was a teenage incel.
It's funny because I specifically seek out older women, but every app I use is full of 18-30yos and only people in their 20s ever talk to me.
Yea it was actually kind of sad to hear his words about what he thought was his problem, he was obviously not in touch with his emotions at all, and people picked up on it and found it off putting.
But doing what he did that's where the compassion ends..
You can't just cure your own autism. He couldn't help his psychological issue. You need a young woman in order to have children without disorders. Think about the fact that when he was young, he still couldn't get a young woman. Just admit women discriminate against autistic men
@@Godzilla_Star_Eater dude, what are you on
Yeah I’ve probably done it less times than this guy and he’s acting like a wreck. Nithjng wrong with dating older or younger as long as it’s legal and consensual. And you’re right. Nothing can make you happy except choosing to be happy yourself
The site Twilight Sucks had a history of people making up insane stories about unhinged "Twihards" attacking people...... little did they know one of their own mods would do it in reality
was it like a video game website? i've never heard of it before!
I worked with Randall a few years before the planned sh--ting, dude had the autism hard. I felt bad for him at the time since I helped him in training. It was a call centre for a limo company and he had 0 social skills. It felt like he meant well, but the customers frequently got rude with him. I'm glad that James came clean and warned the police before doing his business.
Sad how Lindsey was bullied because of similar ideologies she supports, yet she went on to support them and then instead of deradicalising james and her slowly and live regularly esp since shes very successful academically, they cldve changed and lived life for the better. So horrible. Good on the friend for telling tho, hopefully hes changed and she's changed too and got better and isnt super lonely and horrible anymore during treatment.
I don't think she has sadly. Last i heard she was sending letters in prison to the leaders of hate groups
which is why the claims of "muh racism" are probably false, a way for her parents to deflect the blame from themselves.
@@claudiomonteverdi7126but why blame on the parents???
@@RedStarAero If your son/daughter turns out as a murderous psychopath, you as a parent have at least *some* responsibility. Unless they have a genetic mental problem, which I don't think is the case here.
@@claudiomonteverdi7126 okay but the thing is, why do parents always has to be blamed and not the children????? Sometimes kids come from happy family but ended up rebelling against their parents and mix with the wrong crowd at the end. And mind ya, kids also can play Victim card and blame on their parents. And I hope when you say this, you would also help to discipline your own children, including myself too
_When I saw this on my feed I though it said "UA-cam's Most Disturbing Buttholes"_
I mean these people are pretty butthole-ish, so
Now that's a video I can get "behind"
Stop it, get some help
goatse numbah one
I was really hoping to see myself on this list...
So happy my favorite album ever “Justin’s stalkers” is finally getting some Love 🙏
Dawg it made me want to rip my ears off 😭🗣️🔥
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LMAO!!😂
9:35 he's obviously never heard of the People Power Revolution in the Philippines, not one person was harmed and it was 100 percent a peaceful Revolution.
Ditto the independence movements of the Eastern Bloc in the 90's and the dismantlement of Apartheid.
100% peaceful? Bollocks.
Im a filipino and yes its true that it was a peaceful movement but everyone here knows that its not a 100%.
And the Portuguese Revolution!
Dunno if it was a hundred percent when that event happened but ok.
this is coming from a cebuano btw (me)
this is like a trip down memory lane. i was in the tcc side of tumblr during that time and followed james even sent him an ask once. i was sad at the news,they both could've had a normal life together without planning something so terrible. good on the friend for ratting them out though.
Oh god I was mutual with him too.. and we talked a couple of times in dms..
yes CIA right here this comment
I appreciate you covering topics that I have not seen any other channel do. Your research is always thorough and you present facts straightforward and in an unbiased manner. I hope you continue doing what you’re doing.
great upload as always!!! the trollhättan school attack was so disturbing and sad... especially because these things rarely happen in scandinavia, i remember about 1-2 days after the incident a kid had brought a knife to school and our teacher confiscated it in the middle of class giving all of us a heart attack.. because we all knew what had happened a few days before... turns out he was a scout and had activities after school, our teacher just ended up scolding us really bad.
Yeah, we even learned about it when i was in 4th grade (swedish school system) which also shows how everyone despices what happend that day. It is almost calming to think that homocide is so rare in school here in comparison to the US.
I was 11 when the attack happened but i remember my friend not wanting to go to school because he was scared he was going to be killed
Watching it before it gets censored lol
Same lol
Before youtube deletes it
Yeah, sure.. This isn't important enough to be a targeted and censored vid by UA-cam. 😂😂😂
Utube was going after me when I had thirty subscribers..
I doubt it would be
A very thorough and dedicated research you’ve done here which is what I like about your channel! Not at all like others I’ve seen that do this on a surface level
I can’t believe SIRIUS uploaded this just for my as I’m about to begin my Saturday work shift til midnight
saturday work shift til midnight sounds chill as fuck i hope it treats you well
@@interntgirl I’m glad I’m not the only one who can appreciate those vibes 🌙 thank you for the wishes, I hope you have a peaceful night too
Proud of you for showing up to work and being so cheerful! I love it when people don’t hate life! Sending a big hug your way tonight! Love from Las Vegas ❤
@@BucketHeadianHagg what nice energy in this comments section tonight!! Thank you so much. Sending hugs back from NYC 🤗
howd it go
its sad how much loneliness can f people over.
I don't think it's just that, there has to be more to it, because loneliness is a global epidemic, but most don't commit horrible acts as these regardless.
Loneliness didn't make this guy do what he did...
He obviously was not mentally stable
@@BADRHARI-t5r ?????
@@RussianSpyware24377everyone handles things different and loneliness definitely can be the main reason
Loneliness is a terrible thing. But it is not an excuse for mass murder. Sorry Dude.
Not knowing the full medical situation of Mohn, I almost wonder if (knowing about his background in football) if he may have CTE, a serious medical condition that comes about due to repeated concussive trauma to the head. One of the most immediate signs of it is a sudden drastic change in personality. The accounts of friends and family describing him as pleasant to be around to suddenly in college to this darker paranoid version of himself makes me think that. Another part of me wants to say maybe schizophrenia but signs of this “newer” version of him would have revealed itself much much sooner. The unfortunate reality of CTE is that it is not officially diagnosable medically while a patient is alive. I would be curious to see a brain scan of him upon his death to see if this was perhaps what caused this sudden change in his behavior.
yea, that's a valid point, because he wouldn't be the first one who I know has gone crazy due to CTE brain damage.
@@BADRHARI-t5r ????
@@jaxystarr7108 Chris Benoit is probably the most famous to commit heinous acts due to CTE.
Hiding from your emotions and being lonely is never a good thing. You have to conquer it not run from it. Thats how you better your life and get true fulfillment and love.
I'm still waiting on that Twitter iceberg, SIRIUS.
Why?
@@zer00rdie
Whenever people talk about dark internet shit, they mainly talk about either 4Chan, UA-cam, or Reddit.
They never talk about Twitter or Tumblr, which has a fair share of disturbing shit on its platform.
If he ever makes one it would be posted in a different site rather than youtube lmao
@@SwaggyG_2102izzzyzzz has some spectacular videos about tumblr
Oh man I was on that forum where “blondeguardian” was, I remembered the username instantly. She had a gif of Varg Vikernes as her icon if i remember correctly. I don’t remember much else about her unfortunately.
Wow, it is her! I remember her! I always thought it was weird she had that gif of Varg, and that was before I learned about the crimes. Holy crap.
How to pick up young girls as a man over 30... i got shivers reading that one.
And the dad beheader i remember learning about. Homehow i wasnt as suprised about such news, even though i never heard about the dude before. Maybe im just numb to it all
Why would you be shivering over that. You do know that age does not equal wisdom. Experience equals wisdom.
@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 what does wisdom have to do with one person sticking their nose where it doesn't belong over their own personal hangups? ;^)
@@Othillde then why does entertainment and media constantly give us the wrong impressions of what to expect in life?
exactly, he was literally an incel. men who are convinced they are involuntary celibate are a danger to women and the society in general.
Well if you want children to be born without autism or other disorders, a young woman is more likely to do that and also more likely to be less jaded
I can relate to Lindsay’s backstory, since I had a similar childhood. Being half Japanese, half white and growing up in a small mostly white town, u get bullied for being not white. So I had really low self-esteem and hated myself for being mixed race.
Fortunately For me though I moved into the city for my High School years. It was much diverse and infinitely less racist too. There I ended up being somewhat popular and girls actually liked me too (though that took awhile for me to realize since my self esteem was so low).
But that’s probably what would of saved Lindsay. She should of moved, small Christian towns alienate people who are different from them and even those who dare to support them. it’s extremely toxic. I know not all small communities are like this. But many are. Like in Idaho where I’m originally from.
19:22 Actually the perpetrators of the 1999 incident, were neo-nazi's. This type of stuff of girls especially those who are neo-nazi's is actively prevalent today, especially on tik tok and twitter especially after the Serbian school incident where people supported the perpetrators actions, with them simping him despite the perpetrator being a 13 year old, and would berate the victims, with some even supposedly harassing the parents of the victims, meanwhile have received zero to no coverage by any news media.
Little does Gavin know that peaceful protest actually works. Just look at what happened to the Sonic movie.
Surprised to finally see more coverage on Lindsay. Before. there was not much other than her various lolcow/Kiwi threads and a now privated podcast.
Her attempted massacre and her arrest occurred on the exact same day as an actually successful terrorist attack in Copenhagen, which the media focused on, while the Halifax story was barely covered in world news, so this event has remained somewhat obscure.
I love the Silent Hill music you are using in the background 👍
The sound effects?
This video is a good reminder that, while many shooters may have faced trauma and isolation, deep down they are seriously, seriously pathetic people. I mean, they are just losers.
was so happy to see this as i JUST got home from work
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You got me hooked, I find this very intriguing
I remember when the whole Justin story came out…my school is in levittown
PA and I actually live in philly… i heard about it from kids in my school honestly it was so fucking creepy to know just how close you can be to someone so messed up. I dont know exactly what the saying is but they say you pass some amount of murders in your lifetime, and that is seriously no joke.
The average, Some say you’ll unknowingly pass by 36 murders in your lifetime. You’ve probably already have came across a few. Creepy af to think about. Go birds btw lol
Whoever submitted that anonymous tip absolutely saved lives, that was a relief. It's not often that you hear about these plans being stopped just before they happen.
justin might have had CTE from his time in football and then combined with a psychotic break that sometimes just randomly happens in adults who where otherwise uninhibited beforehand
I watch a fair amount of crime videos and that. This one made me exceptionally sad. It felt like a lot of people that, for whatever reason, took very dark turns down the wrong path. In the end, they wasted the lives of others and their own lives as well. When does a person reach a point of no return, psychologically, spiritually?
Or once they find peace ✌️ and enlightenment in their lives. Hopefully, my first comment is wrong 😢😮😅😊
i’m from nova scotia and this is my first time hearing about lindsey. i only go to the city maybe twice a year at best, but i’m never gonna set foot in the hsc the same way ever again knowing what they planned to do in there
It’s weird that I live in Sweden (born and raised) and yet I don’t remember having heard of that attack in Kronan High School. Then again, I’m bad at following the news, or remembering the news that I’ve actually heard about, lol
He Justin case is serious but I couldn’t help but laugh when you presented his song the title is actually creative 😭
Facts
The fact that he had just attacked two people, and then someone asked him to take a photo with him and he just said sure is insane
When I heard that and saw the race of the people involved, I knew it was a white supremacist attack. It makes a lot more sense when you realize that.
All these examples seem to have isolation as the common cause of why these individuals became so extreme and violent. But how to prevent this in the future? People like these are already walking red flags before their crimes to others and are often shunned by society for that very reason and not integrated in social groups. But we can't expect people to just let them in as this goes against how normal people behave.
So, how to prevent this from happening again? I have no answer.
NOTHING could have prepared me for that song oh my god 💀
the papers please sound effects are sooo good
just discovered this channel today and already watched all the videos
Hey man, dont know if youll be seejng this, but i think somebody's plagarizing some of your videos in spanish, channel is Explorando Icebergs btw
Undiagnosed autism in pre-millennial people seems to be the reason for a lot of tragedy. So many people who are socially awkward and with social anxiety not understanding why. And, sometimes, blaming everyone around them. Consumed with rage at what they saw as their rejection by society. Like George.
I often think that if they had only been diagnosed, they would have understood what was going on and other people around them would have understood them better
4:04 oh man what a straight up bop, homies going to make it out of the hood with this one
5:24 damn, homies making it straight to prison with this one
22:00 *alternate universe where Chris Chan didn't get put in the closet by roache, didn't win the sonic sweepstakes, never made the album wish sonichu, and went to college for business instead of computer aided drafting*
Oh god that song clip made me cringe so hard it was painful
Another thing to note at 19:35 the comment showed a guy replying to a user named Vance Stone, also known as William Atchinson, who did the same thing lindsay and james wanted to.
Guess the second guy failed to pay attention to Gandhi, and MLK...Their main points of their protests were piece.
MLK didn’t succeed. He was assassinated and his beliefs were bastardized
of cake?
@ damn right. I said what I meant.
i genuinely don’t know how people can do stuff like this it just seems so evil i might be lonely but i can’t imagine hurting someone
Mm, I know someone who’s a little too much like these people for my liking… recently distanced myself because it’s clear she had no intention on improving- and I lasted the longest out of our entire group. I wonder what she’ll do now that she’s pushed away all her friends?
The picture at 19:03 of the blond guy with glasses and a blue hoodie is not Randall Shepherd. It's a different person (with the username "evil toe") who was also on one of the same websites as Lindsay and just coincidentally resembles a younger Randall. This guy wasn't involved.
damn...if you think about it...George really created his own twitter/facebook website...couldve been huge if he understood what he had at the time
15:42 The caption being "James looking very intimidating." with the scream mask and a rifle is fkn GOLD
Sirius uploading on a saturday nice
I always wondered; how did Lindsay and Randall feel about James after being apprehended and learning he had passed away, and basically left them alone to serve jail time? Especially considering they seemed to be close.
I promise I'll sleep after this
I live in Trollhättan were the Kronan school attack happened, and hearing you talk about it is really insane. I still remember where i was when it happened, i was in school ( not Kronan) and i remember we were not allowed to leave without our parents coming to pick us up, we were not told why until after.
Babe wake up, New Sirus upload dropped, come quick before youtube age restricted and is forced to make changes in order to keep it up
Found this on my recommended and wow amazing video!! Subbed
Gorillaz!
@@Stayingoldfrfr hehe
The case of George Sodini is like a case study of Maslow's hierarchy of needs, without being able to achieve love and belonging he felt incomplete, whilst I do not condone his actions it is very understandable as to how he was driven to the point that he was, effectively just went mad in isolation. It's clear that he didn't see women only as sex objects and desired a partner more than that, but people seem to zero in on one comment he made about not having had sex for 18 years as if it was his only motive.
It’s understandable? You relating to him is concerning. He was right about one thing though, *it feels damn good to come home to a woman*
@@Ishbikes where did I say I related to him? You're jumping the gun, being able to sympathise with someone doesn't automatically mean you're relating with them. I literally said I don't condone his actions so clearly I do not relate to him.
I think the scariest thing about his story is that it is the most relatable. He didn’t seem to have evil intentions. He seemed very aware of his situation. He was just missing something vital to make it all work.
One thing to point out about Lindsay's attempted Halifax attack is that it actually received very little media coverage and remained in obscurity for a while due to taking place on the same exact day that an actual shooting occurred in Copenhagen which left 2 dead, which drowned out the Halifax story in the media.
George's story is absolutely devestating. How poor are these 3 women, and how pitiful I feel for him...
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I know this a dark stroy but 'Mommunist The Communist' is unintentionally hilarious 😂
Honestly though if it weren't for underlying mental illness he'd just be the dumb conspiracy theorist that occasionally said funny shit we all know and roll our eyes at.
schizophrenia as an illness really needs to be taken more seriously. cases like justin's would become less frequent if we were better about getting our loved ones help
The word gets thrown around too much though… ppl need to be diagnosed 1st.
I GREW UP WITH JUSTIN IN THE FIRST VIDEO. I GREW UP IN LEVITTOWN.
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do you remember anything about him??
The first incident happened 30 minutes away from me.
Finally, a video where someone talks about original topics instead of talking about something everyone knows about.
I spaced out a bit and came back in at justins little singing number. I have no words
I was JUST watching these vids like a couple hours ago and I was like “I wish this guy had more videos” …Lo and behold.
justin we need another album🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🗣️🗣️🔥
Holy shit, I heard Justin Mohn fancied himself the next Chili Peppers, but hadn't actually heard any of his "music". His delusions certainly extended to his own talent.
Also, I think SIRIUS misinterpreted a phrase by the way he emphasized the words. "I see her at the park and ride sometimes" is most likely, "I see her at the park-and-ride sometimes" i.e. at a parking lot attached to a public transit terminal.
Imagine telling yourself that all stories of victims fighting bullies have gone well.. That's some interesting mental hurdles you're telling to yourself. Whatever fits the narrative I guess.
SIRUS, I’m really enjoying your channel a lot. Thanks for all the effort. Sending best wishes for continued success in 2024, from Las Vegas ❤
Justin's mental health didn’t just descend out of nowhere. The family issues that you glanced over seem to run deep.
Thank you for making a comprehensible video.
Hear the words Vetran's Affair. . .know they are involved in the screw up and the tragedy. somehow. Wouldn't be surprised if they misdiagnosed.
I really appreciated that outro fade. Kinda hilarious yet cheerful 🤣
Love the Silent Hill ost, great video
fug yeah
every time u upload ur editing gets sm better
thank you
Justin whens the next album dropping 🚨🚨🚨🎧🎧🔥🔥🔥🔥🔇🔥🔥🚨🚨🚨🚨🔇🎧🔇🔇🎧🔇🔇🔇🔇🔇🔇
22:27 wow! a 32 inch tv was considered big screen back then
I think he was trying to be funny..
19:34 Fun fact: "Vance Stone" is the alias of the aztec highschool attacker, he used to write about being attracted to Lindsay in a half mocking way.
Why am I watching this? I really should've gone to bed three hours ago.