There is a certain feeling using a big Nikon DSLR that brings you back to the the days of the F2 and F3 SLR. The way a D780 feels that a Z6 just cannot compare. You said it best "it makes you feel like a photographer."
Agree, I also have and love the Nikon 28mm f/1.4E and it live's on my D850. I use the D6's for my main camera's, but the D850 is always with me for when I need it. It's awesome, because they now share the same CFexpress Type B card's and I can take my card out of my D850, put into my D6 and instantly transfer the images to my device's with the WT-6A. It's a wireless adapter that only fit's on the D5/D6...but it's 100% reliable and hasn't failed me once in many, many years going back to the D4/D4s. Once you set it up correctly it just works and it really helps for what I do, which is photojournalism or breaking news, sports and features/events for newspapers. Speed is everything in many of the instances I find myself in, like with wildfires here in Southern California. Getting information out and along with strong images, can really help the community and being first to have images is also important in 2023. I just like how I can share EN-EL18c's with all my camera's and I also love the option of 10fps with the D850 and MB-D18, but also be able to do without the grip when I want a lighter package! Great video! I subscribed!
Hi Sam, I upgraded from The Nikon D7200 to The D850. I still like to use the D7200 with the 35mm or 50mm primes for street photography. The D850 I use for everything else. I'm glad to see you have come back to the DSLR platform for your professional photography work.
Film cameras are obsolete in terms of functionality compared to digital, but some people (many people) still using them, not just for the final result, more for the user experience, for the PROCESS of using them. I think DSLR becomes more of that. It's not about comparing specs in any website online. It's more about the user experience and the process of taking the photos, rather than the final result you get. This is a great video about feelings, user experience, process, and not just about what any other youtube channel would do reading specs of a new camera he never has used in real life. And at the end, there is even a friendly message: it's not necessary to compare or declare what is better, you can use both of them.
Nice! I agree with a lot of what you said. I have a couple early FujiFilm cameras, which I love, but I did miss the OVF and seeing the world through the lens. When Nikon announced the end of their DSLR production I decided to pick up a camera while prices were reasonable, and ended up with a nearly new D4 and D800. Beasts, and I don't mind the size either. They cover everything I feel like shooting.
D850 is superb, the best camera I have ever used. Given its size, mode of operation, usability, ergonomics, and image quality, it stands out. The big OVF makes it special, and the charismatic glass adds to its appeal.
Ich liebe die D700. Der optische Sucher. Knöpfe und Schalter für alles. Robust wie ein Panzer. Schwer wie ein Backstein. Der Spiegelschlag „stanzt“ das Gesehene auf die Karte. Die harmonischen Farben und Film-ähnliches Rauschen des legendären 12 MP Sensors.
Geht mir mit meiner D3x genauso. Ich wollte ursprünglich auch eine D700, die D3x lag mir aber irgendwie besser in der Hand. Sind im Geiste Brüder...oder Schwestern.
Your first video of why you bought a D850 inspired me to get back to DSLRs ! I have been shooting with Fuji mirrorless cameras for a few years now, but I started my photography journey as a kid with Nikon DSLRs, and I wanted to get back to a camera with an OVF and a loud mirrorslap I finally stopped from debating with myself on which camera to get, and got myself a 15 year old Nikon D700 and I've been absolutely loving it ! (runner up was the D600, but the camera didn't inspire me as much) I would say that it is definitely a luxury to have several camera systems, but the ability to switch from my X-T2 to my D700 depending on the context in which I shoot and what I want to get from teh camera is really nice, and even though I didn't need the D700 on top of my Fuji stuff, I definitely don't regret buying it !
I too shoot Fuji mirrorless but a Nikon D600. I’ve read or listened to scores of “sensor size does / doesn’t matter” arguments, but IMO I’ve found that having both formats is, or can be, really useful. One example would be long telephoto shooting…compare the Fuji 55-200 XF zoom to a full-frame lens in that focal range. The Fuji would be smaller, lighter, cheaper, and have a longer [perceived] “reach” than the full frame version. That might not matter as much for a pro studio shooter, but definitely for the non-pro landscape guy who carries gear on longer hikes.
Hi Samuel! I've watched a few of your videos, and I just have to compliment you on everything about them: the production, the insights you provide, the photos, everything! And your sense of humor as well 😄 Keep on keeping on, my friend, and thank you for putting this all out on UA-cam for all of us to see!
I remember going through Nikon's catalog as a kid and saw low light pics taken by Nikon D850. It became my dream camera right then and there. Now there are a lot of mirrorless camera better than it, but I will buy it someday when I can.
Thank you Samuel! It's a surprising choice for me but, as the Dalai Lama said: People take different roads seeking fulfilment and happiness. Just because they're not on your road doesn't mean they've gotten lost. What matters, I think, is how you feel while shooting and the outcome you get. My X100V makes my life easier in such environments as compared to my DSLR days but maybe I should try out again. Anyway great video as always and always fascinating to see how you handle your photographic journey. Thanks again and take care!
Thank you for the video. I also use a DSLR for street photography. This genre doesn’t have any commercial value; people do it just for the joy of photography. So do I. I use a Canon APS-C DSLR with an 18-135mm native kit lens for this purpose. This helps me capture amazing and exciting moments at times, when necessary from a distance as well. I don’t care what others use or what chunk of the market the “smartphone update” cameras occupy; IMO DSLR is unbeatable. The fundamental difference being - lag-free OVF that works at the speed of light. Thanks again.
Street photography has pretty good commercial value at the moment. The majority of prints being sold by most print makers are street photos. Definitely not the same as other genres but I would say it's none at the moment.
Nikon D850 best DSLR ever made!!! Love to use mine D850 with a Zeiss Distagon 35mm f/2.0 ZF.2 lens for street photography. Recently added a “‘smaller” setup for street photography: Nikon Z9 with a Z 50mm f/1.2 lens (Nikon make not yet a native Z 35mm lens). All your mentioned benefits is also true for this setup.
Hi Samuel. This is the first vid I've seen of yours. I subscribed. I use Nikon D5600 and a 40mm Voightlander Ultron also. Very light. On a crop sensor the field of view is like a 60mm on a full frame, so it's like a short telephoto. I like your photos. Nice work.
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I agree with absolutely everything you said. :-) I comfortably use my Nikon D850 here in Sweden for both my commercial photography and for street photography, and as you say, people take you more seriously with a big camera than a small. I also use the trick to look at something else than the subject I'm shooting. When I need to be more subtle, I use my, surprise, Leica TL2. And I absolutely agree, when I shoot with the Leica, I always get comments about the camera, and how how wonderful they are.
This truly is one of my favorite videos about photography of all time. But not because of the DSRLs, but because of aura, structure or style or I don't know what it is. But the fact is that after each viewing, after switching to another content, it brings me back again and again. Probably the main reason I love Samuel Streetlife
I don't know why I only saw your comment now but thanks a lot!! Means a lot to me :)
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First of all, every time I see a video of yours, I think to myself, why can't every UA-camr make such authentic and likeable clips? It's so enjoyable, unlike the rest of the internet. By the way, I have a strange desire to buy 28, 40 and 58mm for my D800. Exciting lineup!
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Oh just one more thing. Do you use a special focusing sceen, or something else to help you focusing manually?
That is so good to hear! Thank you, I appreciate that a lot! And I share the same desire as you :D I was told by a local camera store that I can borrow all these voigtländer lenses at once and try them out. I might do a video about them then. I wish there were more manual focus lenses (compact) available for DSLR's! Zeiss made a few good ones but they are bigger than the Voigtländers.
@ I don't use any special focusing screen but I have bought the DK-17M Magnification Eyepiece. It magnifies the viewfinder a lot and it helps with focusing.
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@@SamuelStreetlife I don't know if this is also available for the D800, but for my 6D I had bought a matte screen many years ago, which was supposed to facilitate manual focusing. The depth of field was easier to see. But maybe the magnifier is a better idea. Oh Zeiss, I'm really considering selling 28mm Elmarit and 35mm Summicron and putting it all in Zeiss glass. The 50mm Planar excites me so much. Zeiss ZF was also a consideration at one point. Currently I have here various tabs with Voigtländer F Mount and Zeiss F Mount lenses open and think now. I am curious to see more of the Voigtländer lineup.
I like optical viewfinders to the point that I replaced my FF mirrorless with a Canon 6D in October. First thing I did was to go to our State Fair and had a great time shooting for three hours. In a (very) noisy environment no one hears the shutter and focusing is almost instant. I also use it to shoot events. You need some different techniques vs. mirrorless and it isn’t quite as convenient, but it can be very capable. Interesting comment about people’s perceptions of large cameras vs. small ones. I had never thought it could sometimes be an advantage to be more noticeable rather than less. I will be thinking about that when I approach people to take a portrait.
Nice video and thoughtful distinctions between cameras I had noticed but not thought about myself. Thanks. I used a D800 on a trip to India and was amazed at how it was such a magnet for kids. School children would notice the camera from very far awaay and run up and demand(nicely) that their pictures be taken using their best portrait pose.
Excellent perspective on using a DSLR for street photography. Thanks Samuel. I have a Nikon D750 I use for street and everything else, plus a tiny Fuji X-T30 with a 27mm (42mm equiv) lens. It's very small and stealthy. But it also has virtually full frame coverage with focus points which is handy, especially coupled with the touch screen tap to focus and shoot capability.
Thank you so much for instilling the idea that the D850 does work for street photography. I admit, I was close to despair when I realise the D850 is cumbersome for street photography and travelling (got it cheap, used) . I use my nikon z50 instead but nothing beats the D850 dynamic range. Your video strengthen my hope that it can be done. That and the need to buy a voigtländer lens! Now I need an excuse for the missus on why I need another lens..
You’ve definitely inspired me! I’ve always been a Pentax shooter but only now getting into their digital bodies. I’ve got the KP and all my film era Pentax glass to use. After shooting exclusively on film cameras I never got used to evf, so happy with the DSLR now, thank you!
Also a DSLR (Pentax) user here and thank you Samuel for showing people that DSLRs are still great cameras despite many people wanting to declare them dead and then jump on their graves! 😁
@@soulfamilychat Pentax with their ibis in dslr is unbeatable. Plus backward compatibility when it comes to lenses and their weather sealing is great too.
I sold my Leica M10 and GRiii. All really good cameras but I bought a Nikon F100 film DSLR w a 50mm 1.4 AF AND a GfX 100s. I’m now producing the best work I ever have. The M10 and griii were great but for ME, I ended up shooting them like everyone else in the street. Good photos but I never found my personal style….
I shoot with my d610, but mostly with my D3 with af lenses. However, sometimes I use my 28mm ai or 58mm Voigtlander for manual focus. I love using DSLR because it does feel like I'm a photographer and I am always open for street portraits and I get asked a lot for street portraits whenever I use my D3.😊
Hmmmm... About that focusing so it's less noticeable by the subjects, that's why I like mirrorless with manual focus lenses. I enable focus peaking but use it at the desired shooting aperture. With the lens stopped down this shows the actual depth-of-field. No guesswork. Also, with peaking over the entire EVF/panel preview it's compose _then_ focus (if necessary). It is faster and less fiddly than focus and recompose. Another thing I find useful is to set the EVF/panel for monochrome and peaking outline red. This guarantees peaking is always unambiguously visible regardless of dominant scene color. Anyhow, I use Panasonic MFT cameras, which has available to the mount some really quite decent, small, very fast (as in ~f1) manual focus lenses. It's nice to use these in street and documentary context, with the option to have the lens wide open and subjects close in.
@@jharrelphoto I use a Panasonic gx85 that I bought new years ago. This is still viable today. If I were to buy again, however, I'd go for the gx9. This is the follow on model. The evf is rotatable. Nice for use under full sun. I'm sure Olympus has equally good offerings that fits the same bill. I'm unfamiliar with their products.
A lot of these points resonate with me. I'm currently using two systems (Pentax K / Sony FE) plus some GRs and contemplating moving back to purely Pentax since that's the system that I enjoy using the most. I learned to photograph on a Pentax DSLR and still using a K mount DSLR feels like home. The IBIS and the durability are great but I think ultimately it's the ergonomics and the OVF that keep me enthralled. I totally understand what you said about feeling more like a photographer with a DSLR in hand. I just wish Pentax was better at marketing outside of Japan. It's been a long time since I've seen any Pentax or for that matter DSLR marketing in Finland.
@@soulfamilychat The flip screen is definitely a nice benefit on the lower end bodies, the K3 III screen is nice and has good viewing angles but it's still not a perfect replacement for a proper flip screen. Also as you mentioned being able to natively use some great old film era glass is also a benefit of the Pentax K mount as well as many other DSLR mounts.
Pentax's awful marketing does have a slight benefit - you can often pick up Pentax DSLRs and gear for very very good prices on the second hand market, probably because people don't know much about it given the lack of marketing for their gear.
If I didn't have all my glass from my Sony/Minolta A-mount days I would have gotten the K-1 with those Limited lenses for sure...that blackout version they made has been calling my name.
Thank you for putting up this video. I totally agree your opinion on the DSLR. I own a D850 as well. Despite the fact that DSLR is already a thing of the history,frankly speaking it does not bother me at all. The choice of camera system one uses is a very personal thing. In the world of ever changing new tech trends, an old fashion thing will one day become rare like a piece of antique, sought after by some admirers and collectors.
What a great video!! Thank you for this testimonial, I would absolutely love to have an 850, such an awesome camera. I could care less about the mirrorless wave, the D850 is a powerhouse and anyone that has one should feel a sense of pride. Cheers and happy New Year!
Sam - great video! I have two D850s, a Leica M10-R and a Leica M10 Monochrom. All of them are great tools, but I still find the D850s to be the most versatile (not to mention most durable and most dependable). They may not be the newest bodies on the market, but they still produce breathtaking images - and that's the only thing that should matter..
D850 is the last truly great DSLR. It is already a classic. And I want one even though I have a Z7 as I want the lenses directly on the f-mount. Plus the prism of this full frame is stunning!
I gave my D750 to my adult daughter and shoot everything with my Z6ii. I found you from your ZF video and I track with your general ethos! Fun content! 👍🏾
I use a DSLR for street photographs along with a mirror-less camera. My DSLR is Pentax. Pentax has become the only maker to manufacture DSLRs😢. My mirrorless one is Lumix. Lumix is lighter and smaller due to the micro four-thirds type. Compared to Lumix, I have not had any inconveniences using Pentax. I will use Pentax cameras until they give up making DSLRs😄.
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I am getting into street photography (and photography overall, for what matters...) and I am proudly and happily using a D750 that I bought 2nd hand to upgrade from my old (and very entry level) D80. I love it because I feel that this camera is helping me a lot to learn photography while providing me with the joy to get very satisfying results from my progress. I am now considering to get a 2nd camera (more "handy", like a x-t30) for more casual situations but I can't think of leaving the D750 behind. Thanks a lot for your inspiring and honest views on photography!
Thanks for sharing a your thoughts and experience with the DSLR. I use both the Pentax full-frame and the Fujifilm X100V for both street and landscapes. I tend to use Pentax when I want to take my time to compose a shot, but use the Fuji more for spontaneous shots. Both cameras have all manual dials, optical viewfinder, and weather sealing, which is perfect for my type is shooting, I tend to limit the Pentax to shots I might want to print or sell, and use the Fuji is more for creative shots or for experimentation.
I tried this at the weekend with a Nikon D850 and a sigma 35mm 1.4 - and I left autofocus active. I enjoyed it and got some good images. I still tried to hide what I was doing from people, which is harder but still sort of worked. I found I could take shots without always lifting it to my eye. And, unlike with my Leica, I'd say 9 out of 10 shots were in sharp focus, rather than 6 or 7 out of 10 with the Leica. I don't think I would have ever tried this if I hadn't watched this video. So thanks Sam for exploring this! But - I now don't know which camera I prefer.
I shot a book about Carnivals in South Texas. I used a Nikon D300 with a Nikkor 20mm f 3.5 AIS. It was a fabulous camera for street (carnival) photography. DSLR photography is my preference. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Well I've got a Nikon D850 I've blacked the logo off with black tape similar to you and I've put a Nikon 28mm 2.8 AIS lens on it. much more compact. and find it's just wonderful for street photography. When I want to be discreet, I tilt the screen up and put the camera on silent and tap the screen to take my shot. Perfect!. I don't even need to press the shutter. and most people know or 'think' DSLRs make a shutter sound but the D850 can shoot silently. If you get the shot that sensor resolves so much detail its amazing. There is a learning curve but I'm getting better. more and more keepers now I'm getting more proficient . PS I love your tubes on Street Photography and like this one because I thought I was the only one using a d850 for Street. Guess I was wrong.
Me too :) same setup. its a brilliant combo the Nikon d850+Nikon 28mm or Voigtlander. But let face it , this Nikon can do most things. its not surprising really. :) Have to say I shoot Sony at moment in the studio and I shot Canon a couple of years back ,(gas)but this Nikon D850 will have to be prized from my dead hands.
I've had my eye on that 28mm for a while, I love the depth of field of the 1.4, and the images are superb, also have had the 40mm Voigtlander for a few years, along with the 58 which is superb also, depending on your style and what perspective you prefer. Cool video, good to see Hamburg lit up and people enjoying themselves. Alles gute aus Irland !
I still have a DSLR. It's a Canon T6s. I don't use it anymore. I'm thinking about having it converted to full spectrum. I have 2 mirrorless bodies. I have a Nikon z6 II and a z8. I have tried using my z8 at a fair similar to your location in this video. I prefer the smaller z6 II. I also started shooting film again recently. I now have 5 film cameras. I mainly use an FM2N now. I do also have a Nikon F4s. It is big and heavy. The film cameras are just for fun. I usually use a 28mm but I love my 40mm z lens on my z6 II.
Yep, this did it - I’m finally convinced to upgrade to the D800 when I can (much more affordable, I don’t need the extra power, anyways 😅). My biggest concern was the size, but honestly your experience is not too different than when I use my D7100 (and I can’t wait to use my 50mm 1.4 on a full frame 😍) Thank you for a true to life experience and demonstration that it can still be easily done.
You make some great points about how camera size can be advantageous. I find that when I absolutely have to get the photo, shooting my Nikon Df w/ a small prime AF-D lens w/ a physical aperture ring and an old school metal lens hood puts me in a pro photojournalist mind set. And people respond differently because it reminds them of the pro Nikons of old.
Sam, I switched 18 mths ago to Fuji X-E4 for street and city travel photography but while the small size and cute factor is nice the ergonomics are not nearly as good as my big full frame Pentax K-1 DSLR. I almost always use the Fuji but last weekend I took my Pentax with 43mm f1.9 (which is a pancake lens) and it feels so good to shoot street with after some time away from it. It’s a big body similar to the D850 etc so the small 43mm looks a bit odd but I tend to agree nobody is in doubt that it’s a serious camera when they see you and that can be a positive to the situation. But different people react different ways. Either way the ergonomics/ handling is better with my DSLR. Less fiddling. Nail the shot
Sehr sympathisches Video. Ich bin ein Photo-Dinosaurier, der seine Wurzeln noch in der Film-/Analog-Zeit hat. Meine Lieblingskamera ist ebenfalls die D850, Ich hatte bisher viele Nikons und habe bisher noch nie das Gefühl gehabt, etwas zu versäumen, wenn ich nicht auf Spiegellose umsteige. Dein Video über die Leica Q3 hat mich auch gebremst, dies nun zu tun. Obwohl mein Rücken natürlich gerne etwas Entlastung hätte....
been shooting with my D750 for a while on the street now... for me the biggest advantage is i get to experiment with different focal lengths.... especially longer ones! One of the 24-70 f2.8 on a DSLR is of course the classic combo and for streets it's great but i've been experimenting with 135mm lately and got some interesting results since i can shoot from so far away
Some good points there. I have not used a DSLR for street photography for ages (d70, d50) My wife loves to use our Canon 1D2n, and gets complements like Cool camera...
great video samuel and DSLR are still great camera to have and you in street photography and also in paid photography. Leica cameras are great but getting expensive and didn`t see the reason to spend more money to it. great nikon D850 video 😁👍
Very interesting topic to talk about Well I did actually started my street photography journey with a Canon 1000D And I do still use many DSLR cameras until this day I recently bought a used Nikon D70S with a used Tamron 70-300 mm both costed me around 300 Euro Well it became my favorite to carry even though it’s kinda heavy with the zoom lens Many street photographers think these days that they need expensive Mirrorless camera like a Sony A7 iii or a Fuji XT4 to do street photography That fact that this is not true Here you are Samuel you are using a DSLR and many like you and me still appreciate the old OG cameras Well I do advice you to buy a cheap Nikon with CCD sensor like a Nikon D70S or Nikon D200 The CCD sensor has its own magic Thank you for this video and please keep doing good videos Hope to meet you again like we did at the Berlin Safe Light Meeting Have a good weekend…
Nikon (D80) was my first ever DSLR camera. In fact, t was my first personal camera I bought with my own money. I learnt basic photography skills using that, enjoyed a lot because it had many tactile buttons and was built like a tank. Later I got interested in portrait photography and eventually sold my system for a Canon 7D (original) in the Canon world, I loved the color science a lot and now I'm using a R5 and recently got a "daily carry" Fujifilm (X-T5) for street. Again Fuji brings my the joy of having many buttons on the body. I think when it comes to photography tactility and manual operation makes the entire process more fun and enjoyable. I don't own a DSLR anymore but this video makes me to want a Nikon again 😃😅
I started using an Olympus E-500 DSLR, which has a Kodak CCD sensor, for street, but only in daylight because the low light capabilities of this camera is very limited.
Great video D850 is great and yes the 28mm f/1.4 is also my favorite lens You know what? Being a E lens, it’s fully compatible with the Leica SL cameras!!! Which makes you even closer to a Q experience !!!
Yes I wander with a dslr or Fm2 with film using the same lenses. I choose small lenses to reduce weight and just prefer this to a rangefinder. There are times when I just need to be more compact as possible, but I reduced tools number to the bare minimum and slrs are just a perfect balance to do all you need. Add a compact and I'm ok.
Happy New Year...I use a D7500/ 17-55 2.8 Nikkor ,very sharp at 2.8 for night / day street.. always a challenge w/o VR, really liked this video,thank you and best wishes.
I have my Nikon D780 with 50mm 1.4G Lens and my 35mm 2D! My Family and Friends love my Pictures and alle are happy.... Aber remember .... Wolle is watching you!!! 😄😉 Thanks for your very good Work!
Great video as always and you've captured some nice moments at the fair using with your DSLR setup. The timing of your video for me is uncanny as I JUST acquired a DSLR camera after ten some-odd years of using mirrorless cameras. I bought a Pentax K1ii with their 43mm F1.9 LImited lens. It won't replace my mirrorless camera, but I plan to use it often. A couple quick notes about using a DSLR after such a long absence... 1) I've rediscovered how great battery life is on a DSLR. Maybe I'll carry one spare, but that's about all I will need. 2) I've also rediscovered the joy of looking through an optical viewfinder (as you've also mentioned). 3) I have become accustomed to focus peaking when looking through my mirrorless' viewfinder and I can only access that feature through live-view on the DSLR. So, I have some adjustments to make in terms of how I focus. 4) I also need to get reaccustomed to predicting what my exposures will look like after clicking the shutter vs. seeing the result ahead of time in the viewfinder. 5) My Sony mirrorless and Pentax DSLR setups are about the same size and weight. Granted I use fast primes on the Sony which add to the weight, but I think in general size and weight are not as much a factor these days when considering whether to go with a DSLR or mirrorless.
@@ArtDecoArtNouveau Thanks very much for introducing me to this feature! Just tried it out on my K1ii and I can already tell that this is going to be very useful in many situations.
Jeez, people already talk about DSLRs as if they're some 100-year-old technology that's been out of fashion for at least 20 years. I just bought a D750 and guys, you know what? I'm happy with it... In fact, i'm so happy, i can make money with it, and my clients are fully satisfied. DSLR's won't be dead, for the next 15-20 years, at least, manufacturers making people think, that they are dead, by stopping the support and advertising like crazy their new stuff, that's it.
Glad you enjoy using your Nikon D850 for street photography. It is not for me. I choose to use a crop sensor camera. Smaller sensor means a smaller and thus lighter lens. This is generally true for crop sensor bodies. When I walk the streets I do it for hours. I notice the additional weight over time. The benefits of full frame aren’t of use to me. I also prefer the WYSIWYG of a mirrorless body. As you suggest, any camera can be used for street. There are so many bodies and lenses to choose from. There will be one or a few that will tickle your fancy. A camera is a tool. We have to use the right tool for the right job. What works in the studio may not be the right choice for working the street. It is funny, to me, thinking of you taking both the Ricoh & Nikon out at the same time☺. Mask On Nurse Marty
Crop sensors are actually preferred for Street because of the increased depth of field! I forgot to mention that in the video but my 28mm shots here show that a narrow focus field is not always desired. Especially if you want to show context of environment. I like the full frame widen open look but it’s not always what the scene needs. Crop sensors do have an advantage over full frame sensors because if that reason. And yeah, lighter is ALWAYS better for long street days :) So far I can manage to lug around my Nikon without too much strain on my body :) thanks for sharing your comments!
Moments. Moments are what elicit emotional responses. Emotional responses signify connection, identification with the subject. Wait. Connect. Make the image. Wait. Connect. Make the image. These are the images that viewers will emotionally respond to, connect with. Also, get close. Being close maximizes the emotional impact, the connection.
Oh yes! I just do it because I prefer the look of it and I don‘t like seeing a big Logo on my cameras. But your point makes so much sense. I often had people ask me about the camera because they read the brand name. Covering up the branding definitely minimizes the amount of comments and questions you get while shooting.
I really like your videos. I watched this particular video for a few times, and then sold my set of Fujifilm X-M1 and bought a D800 body. I will buy a voigtlander 40mm too based on your recommendation after saving enough money so that I will have a similar set like yours! 😂🙏🏻 Keep up the good work. I look forward to your new street photography videos with your Nikon combo to learn from you!
I'm really glad you made this video! Not only do I only have DSLR's, but I also still have several 35mm film SLR's too. I plan to try to shoot some street photography with both types of cameras! i'd like to get a mirrorless camera, likely a Canon or Fujifilm, but I'm going to have to save a while for a body, and 1-2 lenses. I already have lenses that will work with the 2 DSLR's I have, and more lenses are cheaper than buying mirrorless lenses, particularly RF lenses. The 2 DSLR's I have are both Canon's. the Rebel T6, and the original 6D. The 6D is a recent addition in July of this year, but it's quickly became my #1 used camera. I use a small number of Canon EF lenses with it, mostly the 50mm f/ 1.8 STM. I also have an adapter to use a couple Nikon AI lenses I got super cheap with a FM10 body I ended up selling. They are a 35-70mm f/ 3.5-4.8, and a 35mm f/ 2.8. I've mostly used the 35mm, but it need to use the 35-70mm more. i got an adapter that has a focus confirmation chip, so that helps a ton with manual focus too!! On the film side I have a T50, T70, T90, New F-1 (80's model) w. motor drive, and an Elan 7e w/ battery grip. The Elan &e is my main film camera, but I use the others, particularly the T90 from time to time. My F-1 is not in the best cosmetic shape, but is still trucking along! I'd like to maybe get a nice looking one someday, as well as the AE Finder so I can use Aperture Priority with it.
Great video, you are always funny and chill! Sometimes I use an old d700 for street. it only has a mechanical shutter so you always hear the "cachung" when shooting. People don't care that much, if they "catch" you just smile, say thank you and move on, never had a problem
I use a D850 for street photography, but it's new and I'm still getting used to it. It takes really sharp images and I'm considering getting a 28mm 1.4 Sigma, the Nikon is just too expensive. I have been using a Nikon 50mm 1.8, I have two Nkon zooms but they are both f4 lenses. I really like the wider apertures!! Thanks for the video, it helps to know someone else is using the same camera.
I also use the 50/1.8 on the D800. It's such a good lens and the price it is a bargain. I also have the Zeiss distagons and voitlander 58/1.4. Amazing glass.
Thank you for a very thought provoking video. The question of size of the camera for street and travel photography has been my mind for a while. Coming from Nikon SLRs‘ I was somewhat taken back when I purchased my Nikon z5 and the lenses to go with it. I had considered changing to a Apsc Camera to bring down the size. But in the end I bought a bigger sling bag and now carry my Z5 everywhere. Your video has lots of vaild points like looking the part with a bigger camera. It does certainly build your credibility as a serious photographer.
I agree. The Nikon D850 was my favorite DSLR of all time and I'm a longtime Nikon user for professional and personal work. Have owned 7 different models. Had to sell my D850 to buy a Nikon Z6 II for my UA-cam projects because the D850 just isn't suited for UA-cam educational videos -- but I miss it. That said, the Z6 II is a very nice mirrorless camera for video recording so far.
Yes video ist not a strong point of the D850. But I still use it sometimes to record my UA-cam videos. But if you need Autofocus for video than the Z cameras are definitely more useful.
@@SamuelStreetlife agreed. I used the D850 for my first few UA-cam videos. But 1. I had to stay within a specific distance range of the lens to keep my face in focus and 2. turns out the Z6 II has MUCH better out-of-the-camera video quality (shadow/midrange exposure and detail), that was a very pleasing surprise.
tbh, i think it really just doesnt matter what gear you are using. when i got back into taking photos again recently on digital besides my film camera i initially wanted to jump to a refurbed Z6 or something. Then i remembered: wait... my dad has a D90 he bought on release and thats still kind of like new because he prob only ever used it for like 3000 clicks or something. and he hasnt used it in like 8 years or so i think because he s only using his phone nowadays. asked him...i can have it, he has no use for it. i had a D90 myself back in the day and honestly, i just got a 35mm for it and thats prob my setup now for the forseeable future. sure the Z6 is awesome but i was like: i am not a professional, i am primarily shooting as a hobby. And here is a totally usable camera that is able to take nice photos for FREE. 0 Euros. why not just use it, instead of constantly spending money on stuff? and for how old the D90 is, it doesnt feel old tho. it is still surprisingly feature rich and even has stuff like face detection af and live view mode and whatnot and as of late, it even got a ''secret firmware update'' to make the camera even better. and that secret firmware update is called: AI Denoise. because you know what cameras really benefit from it? cameras with not that great of an iso performance, that actually need some denoise. in comparison, why would anyone need ai denoise on a brand new mirrorless that can push ridiculously high iso numbers easily anyways? its almost as AI denoise is MADE for older cameras.
I am currently using a d700 and 5d classic for street. I prefer the 5d for color and the d700 for b/w. The d700 shutter is almost too loud for street. Ive thought about getting a df instead, but the d850 looks interesting as well. Esepecially with the tilt screen. I personally don't need that many megapixel's. Which is why I like using the older cameras. But I am open to it eventually. Also, I sometimes use a voigtlander 58mm f1.4 for portraits on my d700 and it is a stunning lens. Worth checking out.
Interesting to hear your thoughts on the two cameras. I had a 5D classic but never used a D700. I always read that people love the D700 for its colors. But the 5D is also known for great filmic colors. And I will definitely give the 58mm 1.4 from Voigtländer a try!
@@SamuelStreetlife The d700 definetly has amazing colors. I would say that there probably isn't that much difference between the 5d. I mean there is. The d700 I use in vivid profile which makes the colors really pop with that camera. A lot of the more affordable cheaper older lenses work amazing on the d700 as well. I have several afd lenses including the 50mm, 35mm f2, 28-105mm afd. The 28-105 is my most used lens on that camera. Its quiet amazing for a walk around lens and small. I actually just purchased a griii street edition which should be here Friday. really looking forward to that camera. I downloaded a bunch of raw files and did some edits and found that camera honestly to have some of the best colors I've ever seen. Not sure why I'm just now getting one lol
Haha😁, you know, I was shooting with a SLR camera before your video about the Leica Q2 mini. I sold a Nikon DSLR, with a standard lens and an additional 35mm 1.8 lens, I bought a "Leica Q2 mini" 📷 and I still don't regret it. You've probably already sold your Leica Q2 mini, but I'm glad for such a small, light, serious camera👍. Thank you🙏!)
I have a Nikon Z5 with a 40 F2 Nikkor and enjoy this kind of photography as well because using my D700 is too noisy and too obvious. I can also shoot silently with the Z5 which is less money than a D850 and “since I also used a Leica M3 in my younger years I find using a mirror less camera is very much like using a rangefinder with a quiet shutter and no mirror slap. I agree with you about seeing your image and your depth of field with a dslr or mirror less camera as apposed to a rangefinder and using hyper focal distance for street shooting in a nice way to zone focus and still get good results because with mirrorless I have been able to use vintage MF lenses from many other brands such as Pentax, Konica, Helios which made excellent lenses with lots of character. Thanks for sharing Regards Gerry
The ONLY downside of that D850 is the absence of IBIS. Not that useful for most street photography opportunities, but certainly a blessing for nighttime cityscapes. Otherwise, it is the perfect camera, even in 2022 (sold mine to migrate to Z mount, and deeply miss it). So glad to see it put to good use in your work. Makes perfect sense. And it is also my experience that to be seen as a photographer can in many cases be a benefit. Finally, those Voigtlander SLR lenses are gems. Beyond the 40mm, I can recommend the 20mm and the 90mm. The 58mm f/1.4 is in a class of its own, and you'd love it for the type of street portraits you do. Mixes real well with the D850.
@@thomasacksel3707 i beg to differ. IBIS (or good lens based VR) is a godsend for quite a few situations, including handheld night time cityscapes, handheld video, lowlight portraiture, etc. That is especially true in the high res age. It increases flexibility by around 3 stops, and a couple more if you are careful. In the application discussed in this video, it is less useful because people in the streets tend to move, forcing shutter speeds of around 1/125th if you want them to be crisp. But even then, being able to shoot safely in evenings or indoors at, say, 1/15th of a second with a 40mm lens, opens the door to quite a few creative possibilities. As I avoid tripods like the plague, I'd say IBIS is helpful in around 30% of my use cases.
@@brusselssprout1 That’s why I got recently xt4 as a addition to my xt2, xe1 and omdem10 mk2. I love xt2 but lack of ibis after coming from m43 was troublesome sometimes. I choose xt4 over xt5 because of the price. Second hand xt4 with 12 months warranty and shutter count less than 5000 cost me around £1000. Money saved will go towards new sigma 18-50 f2.8
@@thomasacksel3707 If I could buy another second hand camera(dslr) probably I would have go with Pentax K1 mk2 because of the ibis(only dslr’s that got it) and best on the market apparently weather sealing. Lcd on this model looks great too with it’s variable angle tilting solution. Big bonus is possibility if adapting older glass without the need of adapters.
@@kamilpotato3764 yes, that K1 is very well put together, on par with (or better than) the prosumer Nikon (D850) and Canon DSLRs. The build quality reminds me of the best Contax SLRs. The IBIS in Pentax shows that it would have been possible for Nikon and Canon to provide that feature in their DSLRs. I wonder why that did not happen (Konica-Minolta/Sony had IBIS in DSLRs as well). Nikon D850 also provides full compatibility with their older manual lenses without adapter. Issue with Pentax is mostly the uncertainty surrounding the future of the brand and of its product lines. Development seems to have stalled in the last 5 years or so, with only a small trickle of updated lenses and bodies. Repair services are quasi non existent. It seems to exist in a parallel world, frozen in 2012. ;)
Yeah I just purchased the Nikon D850 and love it
There is a certain feeling using a big Nikon DSLR that brings you back to the the days of the F2 and F3 SLR. The way a D780 feels that a Z6 just cannot compare. You said it best "it makes you feel like a photographer."
Agree, I also have and love the Nikon 28mm f/1.4E and it live's on my D850. I use the D6's for my main camera's, but the D850 is always with me for when I need it. It's awesome, because they now share the same CFexpress Type B card's and I can take my card out of my D850, put into my D6 and instantly transfer the images to my device's with the WT-6A. It's a wireless adapter that only fit's on the D5/D6...but it's 100% reliable and hasn't failed me once in many, many years going back to the D4/D4s. Once you set it up correctly it just works and it really helps for what I do, which is photojournalism or breaking news, sports and features/events for newspapers. Speed is everything in many of the instances I find myself in, like with wildfires here in Southern California. Getting information out and along with strong images, can really help the community and being first to have images is also important in 2023. I just like how I can share EN-EL18c's with all my camera's and I also love the option of 10fps with the D850 and MB-D18, but also be able to do without the grip when I want a lighter package! Great video! I subscribed!
Hi Sam, I upgraded from The Nikon D7200 to The D850. I still like to use the D7200 with the 35mm or 50mm primes for street photography. The D850 I use for everything else. I'm glad to see you have come back to the DSLR platform for your professional photography work.
Film cameras are obsolete in terms of functionality compared to digital, but some people (many people) still using them, not just for the final result, more for the user experience, for the PROCESS of using them.
I think DSLR becomes more of that. It's not about comparing specs in any website online. It's more about the user experience and the process of taking the photos, rather than the final result you get.
This is a great video about feelings, user experience, process, and not just about what any other youtube channel would do reading specs of a new camera he never has used in real life. And at the end, there is even a friendly message: it's not necessary to compare or declare what is better, you can use both of them.
Nice! I agree with a lot of what you said. I have a couple early FujiFilm cameras, which I love, but I did miss the OVF and seeing the world through the lens. When Nikon announced the end of their DSLR production I decided to pick up a camera while prices were reasonable, and ended up with a nearly new D4 and D800. Beasts, and I don't mind the size either. They cover everything I feel like shooting.
D850 is superb, the best camera I have ever used. Given its size, mode of operation, usability, ergonomics, and image quality, it stands out. The big OVF makes it special, and the charismatic glass adds to its appeal.
Ich liebe die D700. Der optische Sucher. Knöpfe und Schalter für alles. Robust wie ein Panzer. Schwer wie ein Backstein. Der Spiegelschlag „stanzt“ das Gesehene auf die Karte. Die harmonischen Farben und Film-ähnliches Rauschen des legendären 12 MP Sensors.
Sehr gut gesagt. Ich konnte Deine D700 förmlich schmecken haha.
@@SamuelStreetlife Mission accomplished. Hehe.
Geht mir mit meiner D3x genauso. Ich wollte ursprünglich auch eine D700, die D3x lag mir aber irgendwie besser in der Hand. Sind im Geiste Brüder...oder Schwestern.
Your first video of why you bought a D850 inspired me to get back to DSLRs !
I have been shooting with Fuji mirrorless cameras for a few years now, but I started my photography journey as a kid with Nikon DSLRs, and I wanted to get back to a camera with an OVF and a loud mirrorslap
I finally stopped from debating with myself on which camera to get, and got myself a 15 year old Nikon D700 and I've been absolutely loving it ! (runner up was the D600, but the camera didn't inspire me as much)
I would say that it is definitely a luxury to have several camera systems, but the ability to switch from my X-T2 to my D700 depending on the context in which I shoot and what I want to get from teh camera is really nice, and even though I didn't need the D700 on top of my Fuji stuff, I definitely don't regret buying it !
I too shoot Fuji mirrorless but a Nikon D600. I’ve read or listened to scores of “sensor size does / doesn’t matter” arguments, but IMO I’ve found that having both formats is, or can be, really useful. One example would be long telephoto shooting…compare the Fuji 55-200 XF zoom to a full-frame lens in that focal range. The Fuji would be smaller, lighter, cheaper, and have a longer [perceived] “reach” than the full frame version. That might not matter as much for a pro studio shooter, but definitely for the non-pro landscape guy who carries gear on longer hikes.
Hi Samuel! I've watched a few of your videos, and I just have to compliment you on everything about them: the production, the insights you provide, the photos, everything! And your sense of humor as well 😄 Keep on keeping on, my friend, and thank you for putting this all out on UA-cam for all of us to see!
Thank you for the kind words! Really appreciate that : ) Cheers from Germany, Samuel.
Damn the quality photos coming out of this D850 and 40mm!!! This is one killer combo
I remember going through Nikon's catalog as a kid and saw low light pics taken by Nikon D850. It became my dream camera right then and there. Now there are a lot of mirrorless camera better than it, but I will buy it someday when I can.
Thank you Samuel! It's a surprising choice for me but, as the Dalai Lama said: People take different roads seeking fulfilment and happiness. Just because they're not on your road doesn't mean they've gotten lost.
What matters, I think, is how you feel while shooting and the outcome you get. My X100V makes my life easier in such environments as compared to my DSLR days but maybe I should try out again.
Anyway great video as always and always fascinating to see how you handle your photographic journey. Thanks again and take care!
Thank you for the video.
I also use a DSLR for street photography. This genre doesn’t have any commercial value; people do it just for the joy of photography. So do I.
I use a Canon APS-C DSLR with an 18-135mm native kit lens for this purpose. This helps me capture amazing and exciting moments at times, when necessary from a distance as well.
I don’t care what others use or what chunk of the market the “smartphone update” cameras occupy; IMO DSLR is unbeatable. The fundamental difference being - lag-free OVF that works at the speed of light.
Thanks again.
Street photography has pretty good commercial value at the moment. The majority of prints being sold by most print makers are street photos. Definitely not the same as other genres but I would say it's none at the moment.
Nikon D850 best DSLR ever made!!! Love to use mine D850 with a Zeiss Distagon 35mm f/2.0 ZF.2 lens for street photography.
Recently added a “‘smaller” setup for street photography: Nikon Z9 with a Z 50mm f/1.2 lens (Nikon make not yet a native Z 35mm lens). All your mentioned benefits is also true for this setup.
Hi Samuel. This is the first vid I've seen of yours. I subscribed. I use Nikon D5600 and a 40mm Voightlander Ultron also. Very light. On a crop sensor the field of view is like a 60mm on a full frame, so it's like a short telephoto. I like your photos. Nice work.
I agree with absolutely everything you said. :-) I comfortably use my Nikon D850 here in Sweden for both my commercial photography and for street photography, and as you say, people take you more seriously with a big camera than a small. I also use the trick to look at something else than the subject I'm shooting. When I need to be more subtle, I use my, surprise, Leica TL2. And I absolutely agree, when I shoot with the Leica, I always get comments about the camera, and how how wonderful they are.
This truly is one of my favorite videos about photography of all time. But not because of the DSRLs, but because of aura, structure or style or I don't know what it is. But the fact is that after each viewing, after switching to another content, it brings me back again and again. Probably the main reason I love Samuel Streetlife
I don't know why I only saw your comment now but thanks a lot!! Means a lot to me :)
First of all, every time I see a video of yours, I think to myself, why can't every UA-camr make such authentic and likeable clips? It's so enjoyable, unlike the rest of the internet.
By the way, I have a strange desire to buy 28, 40 and 58mm for my D800. Exciting lineup!
Oh just one more thing. Do you use a special focusing sceen, or something else to help you focusing manually?
That is so good to hear! Thank you, I appreciate that a lot! And I share the same desire as you :D I was told by a local camera store that I can borrow all these voigtländer lenses at once and try them out. I might do a video about them then. I wish there were more manual focus lenses (compact) available for DSLR's! Zeiss made a few good ones but they are bigger than the Voigtländers.
@ I don't use any special focusing screen but I have bought the DK-17M Magnification Eyepiece. It magnifies the viewfinder a lot and it helps with focusing.
@@SamuelStreetlife I don't know if this is also available for the D800, but for my 6D I had bought a matte screen many years ago, which was supposed to facilitate manual focusing. The depth of field was easier to see. But maybe the magnifier is a better idea.
Oh Zeiss, I'm really considering selling 28mm Elmarit and 35mm Summicron and putting it all in Zeiss glass. The 50mm Planar excites me so much. Zeiss ZF was also a consideration at one point. Currently I have here various tabs with Voigtländer F Mount and Zeiss F Mount lenses open and think now. I am curious to see more of the Voigtländer lineup.
I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t interested in a dslr now! Beautiful images!
I like optical viewfinders to the point that I replaced my FF mirrorless with a Canon 6D in October. First thing I did was to go to our State Fair and had a great time shooting for three hours. In a (very) noisy environment no one hears the shutter and focusing is almost instant. I also use it to shoot events. You need some different techniques vs. mirrorless and it isn’t quite as convenient, but it can be very capable. Interesting comment about people’s perceptions of large cameras vs. small ones. I had never thought it could sometimes be an advantage to be more noticeable rather than less. I will be thinking about that when I approach people to take a portrait.
Nice video and thoughtful distinctions between cameras I had noticed but not thought about myself. Thanks. I used a D800 on a trip to India and was amazed at how it was such a magnet for kids. School children would notice the camera from very far awaay and run up and demand(nicely) that their pictures be taken using their best portrait pose.
Excellent perspective on using a DSLR for street photography. Thanks Samuel. I have a Nikon D750 I use for street and everything else, plus a tiny Fuji X-T30 with a 27mm (42mm equiv) lens. It's very small and stealthy. But it also has virtually full frame coverage with focus points which is handy, especially coupled with the touch screen tap to focus and shoot capability.
Thank you so much for instilling the idea that the D850 does work for street photography. I admit, I was close to despair when I realise the D850 is cumbersome for street photography and travelling (got it cheap, used) . I use my nikon z50 instead but nothing beats the D850 dynamic range. Your video strengthen my hope that it can be done. That and the need to buy a voigtländer lens! Now I need an excuse for the missus on why I need another lens..
You’ve definitely inspired me! I’ve always been a Pentax shooter but only now getting into their digital bodies. I’ve got the KP and all my film era Pentax glass to use. After shooting exclusively on film cameras I never got used to evf, so happy with the DSLR now, thank you!
Also a DSLR (Pentax) user here and thank you Samuel for showing people that DSLRs are still great cameras despite many people wanting to declare them dead and then jump on their graves! 😁
K1 mk2 is on my wish list:) Best on the market weather sealing, ibis, no need for adapters to use older pentax glass.
@@soulfamilychat Pentax with their ibis in dslr is unbeatable. Plus backward compatibility when it comes to lenses and their weather sealing is great too.
I sold my Leica M10 and GRiii. All really good cameras but I bought a Nikon F100 film DSLR w a 50mm 1.4 AF AND a GfX 100s. I’m now producing the best work I ever have.
The M10 and griii were great but for ME, I ended up shooting them like everyone else in the street. Good photos but I never found my personal style….
I shoot with my d610, but mostly with my D3 with af lenses. However, sometimes I use my 28mm ai or 58mm Voigtlander for manual focus. I love using DSLR because it does feel like I'm a photographer and I am always open for street portraits and I get asked a lot for street portraits whenever I use my D3.😊
Great review but how come you covered the Nikon Logo on the pentaprism . ?
Hmmmm... About that focusing so it's less noticeable by the subjects, that's why I like mirrorless with manual focus lenses.
I enable focus peaking but use it at the desired shooting aperture. With the lens stopped down this shows the actual depth-of-field. No guesswork. Also, with peaking over the entire EVF/panel preview it's compose _then_ focus (if necessary). It is faster and less fiddly than focus and recompose.
Another thing I find useful is to set the EVF/panel for monochrome and peaking outline red. This guarantees peaking is always unambiguously visible regardless of dominant scene color.
Anyhow, I use Panasonic MFT cameras, which has available to the mount some really quite decent, small, very fast (as in ~f1) manual focus lenses. It's nice to use these in street and documentary context, with the option to have the lens wide open and subjects close in.
which Panasonic MFT camera would you recommend for street?
@@jharrelphoto I use a Panasonic gx85 that I bought new years ago. This is still viable today. If I were to buy again, however, I'd go for the gx9. This is the follow on model. The evf is rotatable. Nice for use under full sun.
I'm sure Olympus has equally good offerings that fits the same bill. I'm unfamiliar with their products.
I have a very nice Olympus mirrorless but it's the Nikon F2 with vintage glass that I aways grab when out for a city walk.
A lot of these points resonate with me. I'm currently using two systems (Pentax K / Sony FE) plus some GRs and contemplating moving back to purely Pentax since that's the system that I enjoy using the most. I learned to photograph on a Pentax DSLR and still using a K mount DSLR feels like home. The IBIS and the durability are great but I think ultimately it's the ergonomics and the OVF that keep me enthralled. I totally understand what you said about feeling more like a photographer with a DSLR in hand.
I just wish Pentax was better at marketing outside of Japan. It's been a long time since I've seen any Pentax or for that matter DSLR marketing in Finland.
@@soulfamilychat The flip screen is definitely a nice benefit on the lower end bodies, the K3 III screen is nice and has good viewing angles but it's still not a perfect replacement for a proper flip screen. Also as you mentioned being able to natively use some great old film era glass is also a benefit of the Pentax K mount as well as many other DSLR mounts.
Pentax's awful marketing does have a slight benefit - you can often pick up Pentax DSLRs and gear for very very good prices on the second hand market, probably because people don't know much about it given the lack of marketing for their gear.
First time viewer here, great vid. I enjoyed the shot at 5:29 :)
I have a bunch of cameras, film and digital, but I often use and enjoy my Pentax K-1 when out and about. It’s such a great camera.
If I didn't have all my glass from my Sony/Minolta A-mount days I would have gotten the K-1 with those Limited lenses for sure...that blackout version they made has been calling my name.
Thank you for putting up this video. I totally agree your opinion on the DSLR. I own a D850 as well. Despite the fact that DSLR is already a thing of the history,frankly speaking it does not bother me at all. The choice of camera system one uses is a very personal thing. In the world of ever changing new tech trends, an old fashion thing will one day become rare like a piece of antique, sought after by some admirers and collectors.
What a great video!! Thank you for this testimonial, I would absolutely love to have an 850, such an awesome camera. I could care less about the mirrorless wave, the D850 is a powerhouse and anyone that has one should feel a sense of pride. Cheers and happy New Year!
D810 for me
Sam - great video! I have two D850s, a Leica M10-R and a Leica M10 Monochrom. All of them are great tools, but I still find the D850s to be the most versatile (not to mention most durable and most dependable). They may not be the newest bodies on the market, but they still produce breathtaking images - and that's the only thing that should matter..
Interesting to hear because right now I am deciding between a m10R and a d850 and I can’t decide yet
D850 is the last truly great DSLR. It is already a classic. And I want one even though I have a Z7 as I want the lenses directly on the f-mount. Plus the prism of this full frame is stunning!
I gave my D750 to my adult daughter and shoot everything with my Z6ii. I found you from your ZF video and I track with your general ethos! Fun content! 👍🏾
I use a DSLR for street photographs along with a mirror-less camera. My DSLR is Pentax. Pentax has become the only maker to manufacture DSLRs😢. My mirrorless one is Lumix. Lumix is lighter and smaller due to the micro four-thirds type. Compared to Lumix, I have not had any inconveniences using Pentax. I will use Pentax cameras until they give up making DSLRs😄.
I am getting into street photography (and photography overall, for what matters...) and I am proudly and happily using a D750 that I bought 2nd hand to upgrade from my old (and very entry level) D80. I love it because I feel that this camera is helping me a lot to learn photography while providing me with the joy to get very satisfying results from my progress. I am now considering to get a 2nd camera (more "handy", like a x-t30) for more casual situations but I can't think of leaving the D750 behind. Thanks a lot for your inspiring and honest views on photography!
The rendering of this nikkor 28 is amazing here.
Thanks for sharing a your thoughts and experience with the DSLR. I use both the Pentax full-frame and the Fujifilm X100V for both street and landscapes. I tend to use Pentax when I want to take my time to compose a shot, but use the Fuji more for spontaneous shots. Both cameras have all manual dials, optical viewfinder, and weather sealing, which is perfect for my type is shooting, I tend to limit the Pentax to shots I might want to print or sell, and use the Fuji is more for creative shots or for experimentation.
Nice! Sounds like a great set to choose from :)
I tried this at the weekend with a Nikon D850 and a sigma 35mm 1.4 - and I left autofocus active. I enjoyed it and got some good images. I still tried to hide what I was doing from people, which is harder but still sort of worked. I found I could take shots without always lifting it to my eye. And, unlike with my Leica, I'd say 9 out of 10 shots were in sharp focus, rather than 6 or 7 out of 10 with the Leica. I don't think I would have ever tried this if I hadn't watched this video. So thanks Sam for exploring this! But - I now don't know which camera I prefer.
I shot a book about Carnivals in South Texas. I used a Nikon D300 with a Nikkor 20mm f 3.5 AIS. It was a fabulous camera for street (carnival) photography. DSLR photography is my preference. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Well I've got a Nikon D850 I've blacked the logo off with black tape similar to you and I've put a Nikon 28mm 2.8 AIS lens on it. much more compact. and find it's just wonderful for street photography. When I want to be discreet, I tilt the screen up and put the camera on silent and tap the screen to take my shot. Perfect!. I don't even need to press the shutter. and most people know or 'think' DSLRs make a shutter sound but the D850 can shoot silently. If you get the shot that sensor resolves so much detail its amazing. There is a learning curve but I'm getting better. more and more keepers now I'm getting more proficient . PS I love your tubes on Street Photography and like this one because I thought I was the only one using a d850 for Street. Guess I was wrong.
Me too :) same setup. its a brilliant combo the Nikon d850+Nikon 28mm or Voigtlander. But let face it , this Nikon can do most things. its not surprising really. :) Have to say I shoot Sony at moment in the studio and I shot Canon a couple of years back ,(gas)but this Nikon D850 will have to be prized from my dead hands.
Thanks Samuel!!! So much fun watching your videos!!!
Thanks Sammy :)
Any update on the lenses you are using for the d850?
I've had my eye on that 28mm for a while, I love the depth of field of the 1.4, and the images are superb, also have had the 40mm Voigtlander for a few years, along with the 58 which is superb also, depending on your style and what perspective you prefer. Cool video, good to see Hamburg lit up and people enjoying themselves. Alles gute aus Irland !
I still have a DSLR. It's a Canon T6s. I don't use it anymore. I'm thinking about having it converted to full spectrum. I have 2 mirrorless bodies. I have a Nikon z6 II and a z8. I have tried using my z8 at a fair similar to your location in this video. I prefer the smaller z6 II. I also started shooting film again recently. I now have 5 film cameras. I mainly use an FM2N now. I do also have a Nikon F4s. It is big and heavy. The film cameras are just for fun. I usually use a 28mm but I love my 40mm z lens on my z6 II.
Yep, this did it - I’m finally convinced to upgrade to the D800 when I can (much more affordable, I don’t need the extra power, anyways 😅).
My biggest concern was the size, but honestly your experience is not too different than when I use my D7100 (and I can’t wait to use my 50mm 1.4 on a full frame 😍)
Thank you for a true to life experience and demonstration that it can still be easily done.
that was very refreshing to hear, seems like a DSLR is looked at as old technology but I still use mine for general purposes photography👍
I recently bought a Canon 5DSr paired with the pancake 40mm f2.8 also using a 58mm f2 Helios 44-2, amazing combo
yes bro i still using d810 and it's perfect :DD
Samuel, you made some nice pictures! Thanks for sharing your skills ;)
You make some great points about how camera size can be advantageous. I find that when I absolutely have to get the photo, shooting my Nikon Df w/ a small prime AF-D lens w/ a physical aperture ring and an old school metal lens hood puts me in a pro photojournalist mind set. And people respond differently because it reminds them of the pro Nikons of old.
I ll still use my D90 with 35mm 1.8 for streetphotography.
Sam, I switched 18 mths ago to Fuji X-E4 for street and city travel photography but while the small size and cute factor is nice the ergonomics are not nearly as good as my big full frame Pentax K-1 DSLR. I almost always use the Fuji but last weekend I took my Pentax with 43mm f1.9 (which is a pancake lens) and it feels so good to shoot street with after some time away from it. It’s a big body similar to the D850 etc so the small 43mm looks a bit odd but I tend to agree nobody is in doubt that it’s a serious camera when they see you and that can be a positive to the situation. But different people react different ways. Either way the ergonomics/ handling is better with my DSLR. Less fiddling. Nail the shot
Nice to hear that Brett! Yes every camera attracts different attention. Always good to know how to use that to your advantage.
Bro, i started a year ago on my nikon D3200 and still do. Love it! i have my eye on the D850 for my upgrade
Sehr sympathisches Video. Ich bin ein Photo-Dinosaurier, der seine Wurzeln noch in der Film-/Analog-Zeit hat. Meine Lieblingskamera ist ebenfalls die D850, Ich hatte bisher viele Nikons und habe bisher noch nie das Gefühl gehabt, etwas zu versäumen, wenn ich nicht auf Spiegellose umsteige. Dein Video über die Leica Q3 hat mich auch gebremst, dies nun zu tun. Obwohl mein Rücken natürlich gerne etwas Entlastung hätte....
been shooting with my D750 for a while on the street now... for me the biggest advantage is i get to experiment with different focal lengths.... especially longer ones! One of the 24-70 f2.8 on a DSLR is of course the classic combo and for streets it's great but i've been experimenting with 135mm lately and got some interesting results since i can shoot from so far away
I have a Q and a D850 for street photography. I agree with what you said. 🎉
Some good points there. I have not used a DSLR for street photography for ages (d70, d50) My wife loves to use our Canon 1D2n, and gets complements like Cool camera...
Excellent point about a big camera looking more professional and therefore more acceptable on the street!
great video samuel and DSLR are still great camera to have and you in street photography and also in paid photography. Leica cameras are great but getting expensive and didn`t see the reason to spend more money to it. great nikon D850 video 😁👍
Great video as usual with the usual intelligent rationale !
Still one of the Channels that over a long period, doesn’t grate on me.
Great vidoe. I am still using my DSLR (I have 3) for birding and travel photography. The lag free OVF experience is great.
Great video! I am thinking now to upgrade my Nikon d5100 to d850
Very interesting topic to talk about
Well I did actually started my street photography journey with a Canon 1000D
And I do still use many DSLR cameras until this day
I recently bought a used Nikon D70S with a used Tamron 70-300 mm both costed me around 300 Euro
Well it became my favorite to carry even though it’s kinda heavy with the zoom lens
Many street photographers think these days that they need expensive Mirrorless camera like a Sony A7 iii or a Fuji XT4 to do street photography
That fact that this is not true
Here you are Samuel you are using a DSLR and many like you and me still appreciate the old OG cameras
Well I do advice you to buy a cheap Nikon with CCD sensor like a Nikon D70S or Nikon D200
The CCD sensor has its own magic
Thank you for this video and please keep doing good videos
Hope to meet you again like we did at the Berlin Safe Light Meeting
Have a good weekend…
Nikon (D80) was my first ever DSLR camera. In fact, t was my first personal camera I bought with my own money. I learnt basic photography skills using that, enjoyed a lot because it had many tactile buttons and was built like a tank. Later I got interested in portrait photography and eventually sold my system for a Canon 7D (original) in the Canon world, I loved the color science a lot and now I'm using a R5 and recently got a "daily carry" Fujifilm (X-T5) for street. Again Fuji brings my the joy of having many buttons on the body. I think when it comes to photography tactility and manual operation makes the entire process more fun and enjoyable. I don't own a DSLR anymore but this video makes me to want a Nikon again 😃😅
I started using an Olympus E-500 DSLR, which has a Kodak CCD sensor, for street, but only in daylight because the low light capabilities of this camera is very limited.
The great Kodak sensor in that. Legendary sensor tonemulate film.
Great video
D850 is great and yes the 28mm f/1.4 is also my favorite lens
You know what? Being a E lens, it’s fully compatible with the Leica SL cameras!!! Which makes you even closer to a Q experience !!!
Shooting manual focus has breath life into my DSLR, I enjoy it so much
It's so much fun isn't it?? :)
I currently use a Nikon D5500 for my street photography
Yes I wander with a dslr or Fm2 with film using the same lenses. I choose small lenses to reduce weight and just prefer this to a rangefinder. There are times when I just need to be more compact as possible, but I reduced tools number to the bare minimum and slrs are just a perfect balance to do all you need. Add a compact and I'm ok.
Happy New Year...I use a D7500/ 17-55 2.8 Nikkor ,very sharp at 2.8 for night / day street.. always a challenge w/o VR, really liked this video,thank you and best wishes.
I have my Nikon D780 with 50mm 1.4G Lens and my 35mm 2D! My Family and Friends love my Pictures and alle are happy.... Aber remember .... Wolle is watching you!!! 😄😉 Thanks for your very good Work!
If you have a d850 then af-d lens are smaller as the auto focus is using the motor in the camera.
You hit the nail on the head about Dslrs on the street. Love your honesty 🤙🏼
Thanks!
Great video as always and you've captured some nice moments at the fair using with your DSLR setup. The timing of your video for me is uncanny as I JUST acquired a DSLR camera after ten some-odd years of using mirrorless cameras. I bought a Pentax K1ii with their 43mm F1.9 LImited lens. It won't replace my mirrorless camera, but I plan to use it often. A couple quick notes about using a DSLR after such a long absence...
1) I've rediscovered how great battery life is on a DSLR. Maybe I'll carry one spare, but that's about all I will need.
2) I've also rediscovered the joy of looking through an optical viewfinder (as you've also mentioned).
3) I have become accustomed to focus peaking when looking through my mirrorless' viewfinder and I can only access that feature through live-view on the DSLR. So, I have some adjustments to make in terms of how I focus.
4) I also need to get reaccustomed to predicting what my exposures will look like after clicking the shutter vs. seeing the result ahead of time in the viewfinder.
5) My Sony mirrorless and Pentax DSLR setups are about the same size and weight. Granted I use fast primes on the Sony which add to the weight, but I think in general size and weight are not as much a factor these days when considering whether to go with a DSLR or mirrorless.
I have the Pentax K1 and KP and regarding point 3 - have you engaged the "catch in focus" mode to be used with manual lenses?
@@ArtDecoArtNouveau Thanks very much for introducing me to this feature! Just tried it out on my K1ii and I can already tell that this is going to be very useful in many situations.
@@williamself1949 You're welcome and excellent!
Jeez, people already talk about DSLRs as if they're some 100-year-old technology that's been out of fashion for at least 20 years. I just bought a D750 and guys, you know what? I'm happy with it... In fact, i'm so happy, i can make money with it, and my clients are fully satisfied.
DSLR's won't be dead, for the next 15-20 years, at least, manufacturers making people think, that they are dead, by stopping the support and advertising like crazy their new stuff, that's it.
Glad you enjoy using your Nikon D850 for street photography.
It is not for me. I choose to use a crop sensor camera. Smaller sensor means a smaller and thus lighter lens. This is generally true for crop sensor bodies. When I walk the streets I do it for hours. I notice the additional weight over time.
The benefits of full frame aren’t of use to me. I also prefer the WYSIWYG of a mirrorless body.
As you suggest, any camera can be used for street. There are so many bodies and lenses to choose from. There will be one or a few that will tickle your fancy. A camera is a tool. We have to use the right tool for the right job. What works in the studio may not be the right choice for working the street.
It is funny, to me, thinking of you taking both the Ricoh & Nikon out at the same time☺.
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Crop sensors are actually preferred for Street because of the increased depth of field! I forgot to mention that in the video but my 28mm shots here show that a narrow focus field is not always desired. Especially if you want to show context of environment. I like the full frame widen open look but it’s not always what the scene needs. Crop sensors do have an advantage over full frame sensors because if that reason. And yeah, lighter is ALWAYS better for long street days :) So far I can manage to lug around my Nikon without too much strain on my body :) thanks for sharing your comments!
Moments. Moments are what elicit emotional responses. Emotional responses signify connection, identification with the subject. Wait. Connect. Make the image. Wait. Connect. Make the image. These are the images that viewers will emotionally respond to, connect with. Also, get close. Being close maximizes the emotional impact, the connection.
Agreed. I put black Gaffer’s tape over the name so it draws no curiosity or questions. Particularly important during video.
Oh yes! I just do it because I prefer the look of it and I don‘t like seeing a big Logo on my cameras. But your point makes so much sense. I often had people ask me about the camera because they read the brand name. Covering up the branding definitely minimizes the amount of comments and questions you get while shooting.
I really like your videos. I watched this particular video for a few times, and then sold my set of Fujifilm X-M1 and bought a D800 body. I will buy a voigtlander 40mm too based on your recommendation after saving enough money so that I will have a similar set like yours! 😂🙏🏻 Keep up the good work. I look forward to your new street photography videos with your Nikon combo to learn from you!
Dude. Started following you since lockdown and really love your work. Always do. Super glue. Hahahha
Nice one :) thanks for sticking around then! And is there anything that super glue can‘t fix? Haha
I'm really glad you made this video! Not only do I only have DSLR's, but I also still have several 35mm film SLR's too. I plan to try to shoot some street photography with both types of cameras! i'd like to get a mirrorless camera, likely a Canon or Fujifilm, but I'm going to have to save a while for a body, and 1-2 lenses. I already have lenses that will work with the 2 DSLR's I have, and more lenses are cheaper than buying mirrorless lenses, particularly RF lenses.
The 2 DSLR's I have are both Canon's. the Rebel T6, and the original 6D. The 6D is a recent addition in July of this year, but it's quickly became my #1 used camera. I use a small number of Canon EF lenses with it, mostly the 50mm f/ 1.8 STM. I also have an adapter to use a couple Nikon AI lenses I got super cheap with a FM10 body I ended up selling. They are a 35-70mm f/ 3.5-4.8, and a 35mm f/ 2.8. I've mostly used the 35mm, but it need to use the 35-70mm more. i got an adapter that has a focus confirmation chip, so that helps a ton with manual focus too!!
On the film side I have a T50, T70, T90, New F-1 (80's model) w. motor drive, and an Elan 7e w/ battery grip. The Elan &e is my main film camera, but I use the others, particularly the T90 from time to time. My F-1 is not in the best cosmetic shape, but is still trucking along! I'd like to maybe get a nice looking one someday, as well as the AE Finder so I can use Aperture Priority with it.
Great video, you are always funny and chill!
Sometimes I use an old d700 for street. it only has a mechanical shutter so you always hear the "cachung" when shooting. People don't care that much, if they "catch" you just smile, say thank you and move on, never had a problem
I use a D850 for street photography, but it's new and I'm still getting used to it. It takes really sharp images and I'm considering getting a 28mm 1.4 Sigma, the Nikon is just too expensive. I have been using a Nikon 50mm 1.8, I have two Nkon zooms but they are both f4 lenses. I really like the wider apertures!! Thanks for the video, it helps to know someone else is using the same camera.
I also use the 50/1.8 on the D800. It's such a good lens and the price it is a bargain. I also have the Zeiss distagons and voitlander 58/1.4. Amazing glass.
Wonderful film. I have had many similar thoughts regarding older DSLR's with vintage glass. Thanks for your thoughts.
Good to hear Greg! DSLR‘s with vintage lenses are great fun.
Thank you for a very thought provoking video. The question of size of the camera for street and travel photography has been my mind for a while. Coming from Nikon SLRs‘ I was somewhat taken back when I purchased my Nikon z5 and the lenses to go with it. I had considered changing to a Apsc Camera to bring down the size. But in the end I bought a bigger sling bag and now carry my Z5 everywhere. Your video has lots of vaild points like looking the part with a bigger camera. It does certainly build your credibility as a serious photographer.
I agree. The Nikon D850 was my favorite DSLR of all time and I'm a longtime Nikon user for professional and personal work. Have owned 7 different models. Had to sell my D850 to buy a Nikon Z6 II for my UA-cam projects because the D850 just isn't suited for UA-cam educational videos -- but I miss it. That said, the Z6 II is a very nice mirrorless camera for video recording so far.
Yes video ist not a strong point of the D850. But I still use it sometimes to record my UA-cam videos. But if you need Autofocus for video than the Z cameras are definitely more useful.
@@SamuelStreetlife agreed. I used the D850 for my first few UA-cam videos. But 1. I had to stay within a specific distance range of the lens to keep my face in focus and 2. turns out the Z6 II has MUCH better out-of-the-camera video quality (shadow/midrange exposure and detail), that was a very pleasing surprise.
Kudos for brining DSLRs why and how video. Maybe Canikon will realize it is still important photography tools for many of us.
I hope so!
tbh, i think it really just doesnt matter what gear you are using. when i got back into taking photos again recently on digital besides my film camera i initially wanted to jump to a refurbed Z6 or something. Then i remembered: wait... my dad has a D90 he bought on release and thats still kind of like new because he prob only ever used it for like 3000 clicks or something. and he hasnt used it in like 8 years or so i think because he s only using his phone nowadays. asked him...i can have it, he has no use for it.
i had a D90 myself back in the day and honestly, i just got a 35mm for it and thats prob my setup now for the forseeable future. sure the Z6 is awesome but i was like: i am not a professional, i am primarily shooting as a hobby. And here is a totally usable camera that is able to take nice photos for FREE. 0 Euros. why not just use it, instead of constantly spending money on stuff?
and for how old the D90 is, it doesnt feel old tho. it is still surprisingly feature rich and even has stuff like face detection af and live view mode and whatnot and as of late, it even got a ''secret firmware update'' to make the camera even better. and that secret firmware update is called: AI Denoise. because you know what cameras really benefit from it? cameras with not that great of an iso performance, that actually need some denoise. in comparison, why would anyone need ai denoise on a brand new mirrorless that can push ridiculously high iso numbers easily anyways? its almost as AI denoise is MADE for older cameras.
I’ve switched to Nikon dslr for street photography too. I do prefer the OVF and HUGE battery life
I am currently using a d700 and 5d classic for street. I prefer the 5d for color and the d700 for b/w. The d700 shutter is almost too loud for street. Ive thought about getting a df instead, but the d850 looks interesting as well. Esepecially with the tilt screen. I personally don't need that many megapixel's. Which is why I like using the older cameras. But I am open to it eventually. Also, I sometimes use a voigtlander 58mm f1.4 for portraits on my d700 and it is a stunning lens. Worth checking out.
Interesting to hear your thoughts on the two cameras. I had a 5D classic but never used a D700. I always read that people love the D700 for its colors. But the 5D is also known for great filmic colors. And I will definitely give the 58mm 1.4 from Voigtländer a try!
@@SamuelStreetlife The d700 definetly has amazing colors. I would say that there probably isn't that much difference between the 5d. I mean there is. The d700 I use in vivid profile which makes the colors really pop with that camera. A lot of the more affordable cheaper older lenses work amazing on the d700 as well. I have several afd lenses including the 50mm, 35mm f2, 28-105mm afd. The 28-105 is my most used lens on that camera. Its quiet amazing for a walk around lens and small. I actually just purchased a griii street edition which should be here Friday. really looking forward to that camera. I downloaded a bunch of raw files and did some edits and found that camera honestly to have some of the best colors I've ever seen. Not sure why I'm just now getting one lol
Haha😁, you know, I was shooting with a SLR camera before your video about the Leica Q2 mini. I sold a Nikon DSLR, with a standard lens and an additional 35mm 1.8 lens, I bought a "Leica Q2 mini" 📷 and I still don't regret it. You've probably already sold your Leica Q2 mini, but I'm glad for such a small, light, serious camera👍. Thank you🙏!)
The first ad that came up to me while watching this video was a Nikon ad!! Well done Sam, “senpai noticed you”. 😂
I have a Nikon Z5 with a 40 F2 Nikkor and enjoy this kind of photography as well because using my D700 is too noisy and too obvious. I can also shoot silently with the Z5 which is less money than a D850 and “since I also used a Leica M3 in my younger years I find using a mirror less camera is very much like using a rangefinder with a quiet shutter and no mirror slap. I agree with you about seeing your image and your depth of field with a dslr or mirror less camera as apposed to a rangefinder and using hyper focal distance for street shooting in a nice way to zone focus and still get good results because with mirrorless I have been able to use vintage MF lenses from many other brands such as Pentax, Konica, Helios which made excellent lenses with lots of character. Thanks for sharing Regards Gerry
The D850 is the 🐐. I still use my D3s a lot. I love both cameras. I rarely use my Z6ii unless I'm planning on shooting video.
It is!
The ONLY downside of that D850 is the absence of IBIS. Not that useful for most street photography opportunities, but certainly a blessing for nighttime cityscapes. Otherwise, it is the perfect camera, even in 2022 (sold mine to migrate to Z mount, and deeply miss it). So glad to see it put to good use in your work. Makes perfect sense. And it is also my experience that to be seen as a photographer can in many cases be a benefit. Finally, those Voigtlander SLR lenses are gems. Beyond the 40mm, I can recommend the 20mm and the 90mm. The 58mm f/1.4 is in a class of its own, and you'd love it for the type of street portraits you do. Mixes real well with the D850.
99 percent of the time you don't need an IBIS when taking photos 🙄
@@thomasacksel3707 i beg to differ. IBIS (or good lens based VR) is a godsend for quite a few situations, including handheld night time cityscapes, handheld video, lowlight portraiture, etc. That is especially true in the high res age. It increases flexibility by around 3 stops, and a couple more if you are careful. In the application discussed in this video, it is less useful because people in the streets tend to move, forcing shutter speeds of around 1/125th if you want them to be crisp. But even then, being able to shoot safely in evenings or indoors at, say, 1/15th of a second with a 40mm lens, opens the door to quite a few creative possibilities. As I avoid tripods like the plague, I'd say IBIS is helpful in around 30% of my use cases.
@@brusselssprout1 That’s why I got recently xt4 as a addition to my xt2, xe1 and omdem10 mk2. I love xt2 but lack of ibis after coming from m43 was troublesome sometimes. I choose xt4 over xt5 because of the price. Second hand xt4 with 12 months warranty and shutter count less than 5000 cost me around £1000. Money saved will go towards new sigma 18-50 f2.8
@@thomasacksel3707 If I could buy another second hand camera(dslr) probably I would have go with Pentax K1 mk2 because of the ibis(only dslr’s that got it) and best on the market apparently weather sealing. Lcd on this model looks great too with it’s variable angle tilting solution. Big bonus is possibility if adapting older glass without the need of adapters.
@@kamilpotato3764 yes, that K1 is very well put together, on par with (or better than) the prosumer Nikon (D850) and Canon DSLRs. The build quality reminds me of the best Contax SLRs. The IBIS in Pentax shows that it would have been possible for Nikon and Canon to provide that feature in their DSLRs. I wonder why that did not happen (Konica-Minolta/Sony had IBIS in DSLRs as well). Nikon D850 also provides full compatibility with their older manual lenses without adapter. Issue with Pentax is mostly the uncertainty surrounding the future of the brand and of its product lines. Development seems to have stalled in the last 5 years or so, with only a small trickle of updated lenses and bodies. Repair services are quasi non existent. It seems to exist in a parallel world, frozen in 2012. ;)