Wolfeei, what do you think about varying the targeted balancing strength in canon MCC? Part of the reason I think we enjoy non-canon events so much is the teams can be shaken up in a way canon events just don’t allow, whether with new players or simply groups that wouldn’t typically be balanced. My concern with just upping the non-canon events is that they will become less special as each non-canon event should be themed like you said, and if there’s an uptick in non-canon they’ll have to reach a bit more to find good themes. So what if instead, MCC varied how canon events are balanced? I think this has a few distinct advantages. Firstly, the unique teams we as fans have always wanted can happen. In a strong event, we could have QuigZahHutt or Wolfeei and FBM, while in a weaker event, there could be multiple competitive ladies teams or full hermits/empires teams or competitive full simmers team for example. The advantage of making them canon rather than relegating them to an “SMP Olympics” non-canon for example is if the canon balancing is varied, streamers who were turned off from MCC because of the ultra competition could still play in the lower balanced ones without being explicitly used as a nerf, and still not have their accomplishment relegated to “oh that was non canon.” You get both less competition and less asterisks on achievements. This also helps with the roster expansion problems, as if there are occasionally less powerful events, less traditionally mechanically skilled players would feel more welcomed, while in the more competitive ones, players who haven’t been able to join because they are “too good” like Wallibear or Couriway could and be competitive just how they like. Then, the events that are balanced to close to what we are used to (which would still probably be the majority) would have an expanded roster both in high powered and lesser powered players, combating some of the samey-ness, as if some of the newcomers ‘catch the bug’ beyond the events they typically participate in which will happen with a few, the more traditional MCC benefits. How is this different that just more non-canons or a roster split? Firstly it allows player to decide themselves what level of competition they’re comfortable with, knowing that no matter what it is, it’ll be open to them a couple times a year at least, and importantly if they decide to change, they’re welcome to. Additionally, canonizing events of different strengths also has the potential to shift how the community “evaluates” players, as stats event to event are no longer 1:1, which would promote critical thinking and nuance in team construction and remove some of the consistency that promotes advanced statistic analysis. Stats aren’t bad by any means, but they are a symptom of the community trending more toward competitive than for fun. Additionally, the closer in the skill the “#1” player and “#40” player are in a given MCC, the more unpredictable the result and greater potential for unexpected pop offs relative to other players. We saw this some in scuffed with Oli and Gem. Events either shifted up or down in balancing power would accomplish this, allowing a viewer of any streamer to have hope for a pop off on any given event. I guess my point is that the more we differentiate between canon and non-canon, the closer we creep towards a roster split anyway with decreasing overlap. So why not blur the line, share some elements of non-canon events with canon events and vice versa? That inherently decreases overall competitiveness in the event by virtue of removing regulation, and allows more fan service teams and requested players. It’s a bit of a departure from the formula but I think it has the potential to solve two of MCCs biggest issues (interesting roster growth and competitive vs for fun issue). You’re the event organizer though, you’d know better than me. Also I just kinda want to see a Captainsparklez, Kara, Ranboo/Tubbo, Crumb team and that probably couldn’t happen otherwise.
You may or may not see this comment, but I have a question out of curiosity. Since you’re the organizer of blockwars, do you make the teams just like scottsmajor? Or is there somebody else who does that?
Ngl I have to disagree on bingo, I really think the change they made to it for this event and the fact that a lot of non survival people play mc bingo nowadays I really think it could work and be an interesting game to mix things up a bit
4 BM's would've been perfect I take no criticism
MCC scuffed was awesome deffo one of my favorites
I agree Felix definitely won and it's not like I made the post or anything nope
Other people have used Shane’s strat in the event dream and techno used it and I think Dave did as well
15:53 whoever made this rocketspleef rush tier list has not watched grian putting him in B tier lmao
Wolfeei, what do you think about varying the targeted balancing strength in canon MCC?
Part of the reason I think we enjoy non-canon events so much is the teams can be shaken up in a way canon events just don’t allow, whether with new players or simply groups that wouldn’t typically be balanced. My concern with just upping the non-canon events is that they will become less special as each non-canon event should be themed like you said, and if there’s an uptick in non-canon they’ll have to reach a bit more to find good themes.
So what if instead, MCC varied how canon events are balanced? I think this has a few distinct advantages. Firstly, the unique teams we as fans have always wanted can happen. In a strong event, we could have QuigZahHutt or Wolfeei and FBM, while in a weaker event, there could be multiple competitive ladies teams or full hermits/empires teams or competitive full simmers team for example. The advantage of making them canon rather than relegating them to an “SMP Olympics” non-canon for example is if the canon balancing is varied, streamers who were turned off from MCC because of the ultra competition could still play in the lower balanced ones without being explicitly used as a nerf, and still not have their accomplishment relegated to “oh that was non canon.” You get both less competition and less asterisks on achievements.
This also helps with the roster expansion problems, as if there are occasionally less powerful events, less traditionally mechanically skilled players would feel more welcomed, while in the more competitive ones, players who haven’t been able to join because they are “too good” like Wallibear or Couriway could and be competitive just how they like.
Then, the events that are balanced to close to what we are used to (which would still probably be the majority) would have an expanded roster both in high powered and lesser powered players, combating some of the samey-ness, as if some of the newcomers ‘catch the bug’ beyond the events they typically participate in which will happen with a few, the more traditional MCC benefits.
How is this different that just more non-canons or a roster split? Firstly it allows player to decide themselves what level of competition they’re comfortable with, knowing that no matter what it is, it’ll be open to them a couple times a year at least, and importantly if they decide to change, they’re welcome to. Additionally, canonizing events of different strengths also has the potential to shift how the community “evaluates” players, as stats event to event are no longer 1:1, which would promote critical thinking and nuance in team construction and remove some of the consistency that promotes advanced statistic analysis. Stats aren’t bad by any means, but they are a symptom of the community trending more toward competitive than for fun.
Additionally, the closer in the skill the “#1” player and “#40” player are in a given MCC, the more unpredictable the result and greater potential for unexpected pop offs relative to other players. We saw this some in scuffed with Oli and Gem. Events either shifted up or down in balancing power would accomplish this, allowing a viewer of any streamer to have hope for a pop off on any given event.
I guess my point is that the more we differentiate between canon and non-canon, the closer we creep towards a roster split anyway with decreasing overlap. So why not blur the line, share some elements of non-canon events with canon events and vice versa? That inherently decreases overall competitiveness in the event by virtue of removing regulation, and allows more fan service teams and requested players. It’s a bit of a departure from the formula but I think it has the potential to solve two of MCCs biggest issues (interesting roster growth and competitive vs for fun issue). You’re the event organizer though, you’d know better than me.
Also I just kinda want to see a Captainsparklez, Kara, Ranboo/Tubbo, Crumb team and that probably couldn’t happen otherwise.
Have you seen the post about punz and his reply I feel really bad for him
yeah I saw it, glad he voiced his opinion
You may or may not see this comment, but I have a question out of curiosity. Since you’re the organizer of blockwars, do you make the teams just like scottsmajor? Or is there somebody else who does that?
You don’t follow AJX smh
15:50 bro Shane hasn’t played it lmfao
Ngl I have to disagree on bingo, I really think the change they made to it for this event and the fact that a lot of non survival people play mc bingo nowadays I really think it could work and be an interesting game to mix things up a bit
Solidarity got 1st in mcc jingle jam so he’s the highest finishing hermit
Hes not a hermit, by that logic joel got 1st as well
Not hermits, Empires :)
Jimmy's not a Hermit. He's an Empires guy.
Mine was the next post 😭
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Scuffed
Just wanted to let you know punz wanted the punz B tier KEKW to stop
He commented on the post you pasted by
Red is to bad In my opinion to many weak players And What you guys did here is very balanced. :)