Interesting to see welded rail on lightly used industrial trackage. Guess it was installed in busier times on the branch. I enjoy seeing urban switching jobs and the designs of the various buildings serviced.
You need to see the HG line NS just put in welded rail dead end line just one customer three days a week and the customer is not near the dead end at the dead end is a scrap yard sometimes ship out I say something big is a coming for NS to spend that kind of money.
It is actually what NS now calls a GP38-3 and it started life as Southern #7062, a GP50, back in November of 1980!! Guess you could call it a demotion instead of a promotion!!
@@ScottTaipaleRail The GP50's had a lot of issues with the 645F3B prime mover, so, to increase the life of the unit, remove the turbo and turn back the fuel rack setting so it reduced the stress on the motor. They last longer that was!! When EMD came out with the 710 prime mover they cured a lot of the issues!
It's amazing how if you move a few feet in these Industrial environs it takes on a whole new look. This was some top-notch video and captured stuff that really nobody else is covering. The light being bent as it comes out of the siding was great and the sun's positioning probably couldn't have been better. Just looking at the old steel roll up door with the siding coming out of it and the switch in the street that is just such cool stuff. Even though in 1996 it had the newer look to it the Cleveland produce terminal had quite a bit of trackage in it at one time and I was not even aware of this old Industrial Park. The train even looked apprehensive backing up Crossing that Barren Empty Street with the old Steel Bridge in the background. That scene just evoked that feeling of a disappearing scene in America. Felt right at home with the Motive Power with those silica cars is it undoubtedly passed through Milwaukee add enclosed with that nice freight run by. There was some real great quality in this video to be proud of
Thank you! I really wish I could have seen the produce terminal what that place was in full swing… only a few track left and only used as a MofW base as far as I can see. Another UA-camr did catch them loading a couple cars with bridge parts in there last summer.
100% agreed. The produce terminal track spur, I guess that's what it is from reading your comment, but it's like an outdoor natural history industrial museum kinda, it's like the bones and relics of a long gone industry, something you would see in a museum but here we see it in its real setting, bones of old rail no longer used, rusted rolling doors and large brick structures with decades and decades of stories to tell and the lives that worked in them. It speaks to an era of bygone American might and simpler times. I would have loved to see that and it's hay day.🙂
@@sanddabz5635 the only time I ever did any intense railroading in Cleveland was the last several months the Hulett unloaders were working so that's like 1995 or 96. The produce yard was a lot of older buildings with rolls of tracks to unload cars adjacent to roadways and there were like two rotten wooden Fruit Growers Express cars there yet. A quarter century and a lot has changed but possibly someday might be able to get back there again. These tapes really bring out the obscure and the areas that still have industrial feeling
Very calming video...I prefer local switching videos to mainline videos of the same thing over and over. Hopefully they can get more customers to keep this line viable for operation.
Thank you! I keep shooting pictures of the building in this neighborhood because they are rapidly disappearing. We spent the 1st exploring another NYC industrial track that has probably been gone since the 70’s. Maybe 100 feet of rail buried under trees at one warehouse was all that is left plus the way the structures curve and bridge over where the line meandered.
Friends of mine in Sharon, PA told me about a festival they have over there in the summer called Waterfire which culminates at sundown when several torches anchored in the river are set ablaze. I said 'That's cute. We don't need torches to set our river on fire over here!'.
It’s sad to see so few customers using rail service these days. Around Atlanta there are miles of industrial spur tracks serving occupied facilities that do not use the rails.
Yes at least on of my kids likes trains. My second son doesn’t find them interesting but now my baby daughter watches the train videos with me. Maybe… we’ll see haha
Thanks. He shoots a lot but I usually let him have his footage for when he gets around to making a channel. I thought it would go good in this one since he can be seen running up to the crossing.
Another great video Scott, more Branch Pugs👌 Looking at the locomotives on some trains, they belong to different companies - are they treated as 'Common User' motive power ? All the best for the New Year - one and all !
Watch Danny Harmon's video on foreign power. Basically, it used to be that when a train passed from one railroad's territory to another, the first railroad took its locomotives off and it continued under the power of the second railroad. These days, they usually keep the locomotives on and just swap the crew. Each railroad keeps track of the mileage their locomotives have done on each other's trackage, and they bill each other for the difference.
Load must be heavy, else it would be loaded to the top.Why they make the conductor work so hard when you got a fine running locomotive is beyond me(humor).
Hi Scott, do you have maps of the the Silver Plate Branch? I have detailed maps of the area from 1925. If you want a copy, I'm glad to forward them to you. I used to walk from the St. Clair East 55th RTA bus to WJW TV where I worked as a high school kid on South Marginal Road in 1978. I remember seeing Penn Central F7As and other locos stored behind WJW TV's back parking lot on the running tracks. As time went on I researched the area of the PRR and LS&MS/NYC through old maps and by just walking around that area as a teenager in the 70s. I was brave as that was not the nicest neighborhood then but I was a track runner, I was fast back then. I'm slow today. Thanks for the videos. It's nice to see them.
@@ScottTaipaleRail Actually, what I have is from 1921. East 53rd Street east to just past East 55th Street. North of St. Clair to the lake. No Shoreway or marinas yet. Lake Shore and Michigan Southern Railway, Erie Division, NYC RR. The east half of the Silver Plate Branch. Why I don't have the west half... ?
Yes I was using the first gen DJI Osmo handheld for that. Takes great 4K video but awful sound quality. They improved it in the next 2 generations but I don’t have the funds for one…
Really what kind of comment is that? This is a dilapidated warehouse district, definitely not the worst neighborhood in Cleveland. Plus their mother is along for the ride and dinner so…
Interesting to see welded rail on lightly used industrial trackage. Guess it was installed in busier times on the branch. I enjoy seeing urban switching jobs and the designs of the various buildings serviced.
You need to see the HG line NS just put in welded rail dead end line just one customer three days a week and the customer is not near the dead end at the dead end is a scrap yard sometimes ship out I say something big is a coming for NS to spend that kind of money.
Go back to school and learn grammar.
Why don't you go Flock yourself come to the HG line and lets see how tuff your are.@@trains2057
I’m not sure when they put in new rail. This branch has dwindled down to one customer. Possibly just cheaper to use rail removed from the main nearby?
@@trains2057I'd settle for punctuation.
Always love seeing a vintage EMD putting in work. Good 'ol GP38-2 doing what she does best, switching. Awesome video as always, Thanks Scott!
Yes indeed those Geeps are tough working Grabowski's still getting the job done
It is actually what NS now calls a GP38-3 and it started life as Southern #7062, a GP50, back in November of 1980!! Guess you could call it a demotion instead of a promotion!!
Thank you! Odd how they bought these as high horsepower units and then beat them down GP38’s.
@@ScottTaipaleRail The GP50's had a lot of issues with the 645F3B prime mover, so, to increase the life of the unit, remove the turbo and turn back the fuel rack setting so it reduced the stress on the motor. They last longer that was!! When EMD came out with the 710 prime mover they cured a lot of the issues!
It's amazing how if you move a few feet in these Industrial environs it takes on a whole new look. This was some top-notch video and captured stuff that really nobody else is covering. The light being bent as it comes out of the siding was great and the sun's positioning probably couldn't have been better. Just looking at the old steel roll up door with the siding coming out of it and the switch in the street that is just such cool stuff. Even though in 1996 it had the newer look to it the Cleveland produce terminal had quite a bit of trackage in it at one time and I was not even aware of this old Industrial Park. The train even looked apprehensive backing up Crossing that Barren Empty Street with the old Steel Bridge in the background. That scene just evoked that feeling of a disappearing scene in America. Felt right at home with the Motive Power with those silica cars is it undoubtedly passed through Milwaukee add enclosed with that nice freight run by. There was some real great quality in this video to be proud of
Thank you! I really wish I could have seen the produce terminal what that place was in full swing… only a few track left and only used as a MofW base as far as I can see. Another UA-camr did catch them loading a couple cars with bridge parts in there last summer.
100% agreed. The produce terminal track spur, I guess that's what it is from reading your comment, but it's like an outdoor natural history industrial museum kinda, it's like the bones and relics of a long gone industry, something you would see in a museum but here we see it in its real setting, bones of old rail no longer used, rusted rolling doors and large brick structures with decades and decades of stories to tell and the lives that worked in them. It speaks to an era of bygone American might and simpler times. I would have loved to see that and it's hay day.🙂
@@ScottTaipaleRail
Hey Scott, see what I wrote below, this is a great video that you did, really sad in a way also though.
Thanks for taking me along!
@@sanddabz5635 the only time I ever did any intense railroading in Cleveland was the last several months the Hulett unloaders were working so that's like 1995 or 96. The produce yard was a lot of older buildings with rolls of tracks to unload cars adjacent to roadways and there were like two rotten wooden Fruit Growers Express cars there yet. A quarter century and a lot has changed but possibly someday might be able to get back there again. These tapes really bring out the obscure and the areas that still have industrial feeling
Very calming video...I prefer local switching videos to mainline videos of the same thing over and over. Hopefully they can get more customers to keep this line viable for operation.
For sure, these jobs are fun to watch.
Awesome video Scott - lots of prototype inspiration here!!
Thank you! I keep shooting pictures of the building in this neighborhood because they are rapidly disappearing. We spent the 1st exploring another NYC industrial track that has probably been gone since the 70’s. Maybe 100 feet of rail buried under trees at one warehouse was all that is left plus the way the structures curve and bridge over where the line meandered.
@@ScottTaipaleRail that's awesome - looking forward to it!
This is an awesome video! I saw some flat cars the other day with those cylinders on them and wondered where in northern Ohio that they came from.
Friends of mine in Sharon, PA told me about a festival they have over there in the summer called Waterfire which culminates at sundown when several torches anchored in the river are set ablaze.
I said 'That's cute. We don't need torches to set our river on fire over here!'.
60 years ago.
It’s sad to see so few customers using rail service these days. Around Atlanta there are miles of industrial spur tracks serving occupied facilities that do not use the rails.
Thank you for sharing.👍
Thank you for watching
You put out the best vids.
I love the design of the first building
Great footage man!!
Thank you!
You have a new follower. As others mentioned, this was really well done and I also do like the local switching these days
Thank you! Welcome aboard!
Nice
Thanks
I love little industries like these
It’s a very interesting branch.
Great to know you have a young one interested in our stuff.
Yes at least on of my kids likes trains. My second son doesn’t find them interesting but now my baby daughter watches the train videos with me. Maybe… we’ll see haha
Great footage
Thank you
Good to see your kid's videography in here too!
Thanks. He shoots a lot but I usually let him have his footage for when he gets around to making a channel. I thought it would go good in this one since he can be seen running up to the crossing.
@@ScottTaipaleRail I'll be looking forward to his channel
Great video
Thanks!
Great shot Bro 🤘🏻🎸🤘🏻
Thank you!
Interesting yield sign crossing when there are blind spots.
Another great video Scott, more Branch Pugs👌
Looking at the locomotives on some trains, they belong to different companies - are they treated as 'Common User' motive power ?
All the best for the New Year - one and all !
Watch Danny Harmon's video on foreign power. Basically, it used to be that when a train passed from one railroad's territory to another, the first railroad took its locomotives off and it continued under the power of the second railroad. These days, they usually keep the locomotives on and just swap the crew. Each railroad keeps track of the mileage their locomotives have done on each other's trackage, and they bill each other for the difference.
@@beeble2003 I am much obliged for the explanation 👍
Nice one 👍🏻
Thank you
Enjoyed the video. Was that a draw bridge?
Thank you. NS refers to this bridge as “NS 1”. It crosses the Cuyahoga river.
Aluminum round billets in a center beam car. :)
They ship them that way out of here several times a week.
Was that Aluminum on those centerbeams?
Not sure? Someone else speculated graphite electrodes for electric arc furnaces.
Yes it was.
0:35 Made me laugh how the conductor seems to be pushing the train into motion, here. Also, anyone know what's being carried on those centrebeams?
Load must be heavy, else it would be loaded to the top.Why they make the conductor work so hard when you got a fine running locomotive is beyond me(humor).
The GP38s are a fantastic workhorse. We have several around my area. Thanks for sharing 👍
Autists never answer the question.
The look like Graphite electrodes for an electric arc furnace.
@@ronglatt1755 Interesting -- I'd never have thought of that!
Thanks for the video. Sounds like 5815 has a bit of an exhaust leak?
Thank you. I’m not familiar with locomotive engines so I can’t say.
I am always glad to see any PC lines of any kind in service. At 4:18, is the bridge in the background the mainline?
Yes that is the mainline that the branch connects to.
Hi Scott, do you have maps of the the Silver Plate Branch? I have detailed maps of the area from 1925. If you want a copy, I'm glad to forward them to you. I used to walk from the St. Clair East 55th RTA bus to WJW TV where I worked as a high school kid on South Marginal Road in 1978. I remember seeing Penn Central F7As and other locos stored behind WJW TV's back parking lot on the running tracks. As time went on I researched the area of the PRR and LS&MS/NYC through old maps and by just walking around that area as a teenager in the 70s. I was brave as that was not the nicest neighborhood then but I was a track runner, I was fast back then. I'm slow today. Thanks for the videos. It's nice to see them.
Thanks for watching! I’d be interested to see the map! I’ve seen one from 1930-40 ish but can’t seem to find it now…
@@ScottTaipaleRail Actually, what I have is from 1921. East 53rd Street east to just past East 55th Street. North of St. Clair to the lake. No Shoreway or marinas yet. Lake Shore and Michigan Southern Railway, Erie Division, NYC RR. The east half of the Silver Plate Branch. Why I don't have the west half... ?
Super jealous
Why is a Norfolk Southern Locomotive leading 2 CPKC Locomotives? I go to several Railyards in Chicago, and that always confuses Me. Maintenance Maybe?
Bacana, muito bom ❤❤❤❤
folks this is a good one
Thank you
Lol that sound from 10:53 onwards until 11:13 is so weird!
Yes I was using the first gen DJI Osmo handheld for that. Takes great 4K video but awful sound quality. They improved it in the next 2 generations but I don’t have the funds for one…
Haha I went and listened to it. Lincoln was being a plane or something!
Man Cleveland has not aged well!
please leave the kids at home with the mother
😂
They are disciples of the foam. Let them live!
"Sorry, boys, you can't see the trains today. Some stranger on the internet is more important to me than you."
Said every great father in history.
Really what kind of comment is that? This is a dilapidated warehouse district, definitely not the worst neighborhood in Cleveland. Plus their mother is along for the ride and dinner so…
Nice
Thanks
@@ScottTaipaleRail your welcome