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Len Cariou is convincing and compelling like no-one else in this role. When he sings elsewhere My Friends about his razors he is chillingly moving. Angela Lansbury is a superb complement to him. One feels only sadness and pity for him. Like so much of Sondheim's oeuvre, the audience is made to look at things in a different and perhaps unexpected way.
epiphany is SUCH an amazing song. it's the turning point for sweeney todd, both the character and the musical as a whole. from here on he's truly unhinged and things get more chaotic
Oh man I love this version of Epiphany! When he screams 'Come on come on" I got shivers. He did so well balancing the tones I feel! That enraged shout just made this version my favorite though
Todd was probably just thinking "Anthony I swear to the Lord above me, if you don't get out of here I'll slit your damn throat right here and now!" What he says "out."
len cariou was amazing as sweeney todd, and angela lansbury was hilarious and wonderful! i was lucky to be able to see them perform this in the original production at the uris theatre... and for the people here saying it's not emotional enough, remember that this was a studio recording, not a live performance... trust me... this cast's performance of sweeney todd was nothing less than electrifying live... it's a shame there's no good video recordings of it...
Debstar Divine how does Len Cariou's performance compare to George Hearn's in your opinion? I'm thrilled that there are people on here who have seen the original production. Unfortunately I was not alive then
a lot of people seem to prefer george hearn's performance, and i think they base that on his very strong voice... but to me, he lacked the humor that cariou had, and seemed almost as if he was kind of a "one note" kind of performance... he was forceful, and a good voice, but he lacked something for me... len cariou was much more charismatic and engaging for me, precisely because he didn't feel forced... and i think his voice was more enjoyable as well as his wonderful chemistry with the miraculous angela lansbury :)
listen to the album version of "pretty women/epiphany" with len cariou, and also "a little priest" with cariou and lansbury... those pieces really showcase their fantastic talents.... i believe the poster here has uploaded them on their channel... unfortunately it lacks the audience in the recording, so you don't get to hear their reactions to the performance, but i remember that everyone was howling with laughter at "a little priest" :)
I love this version and I saw a live recording on UA-cam. Original cast is the best in my opinion. The movie was good too, but you can't beat these vocals.
" How they make a man sing / proof of heaven as you're living" gives me chills: the lyrics, the music swelling, what it means for Sweeney and the hypocrisy of the judge.
This song is NOT I repeat NOT about anger. Actually listen to him, and think about what has happened to him from up to this point and from before the beginning of the musical- he's lost so much and is sad. This is Epiphany- his Epiphany being that he believes that he has discovered that he has the right to kill people and that some deserve to die. It isn't anger- it's insanity. He is becoming deranged in his depression and wild passion. IT ISN'T ANGER it's insanity, which is what Len is conveying- which is why this is the best version, and why Len is pretty much the best Sweeney Todd.
It is both, in a way. Insanity is portrayed in many different ways. Anger is obviously shown in the lines such as "They all deserve to die," but sorrow is shown in "I'll never see my Lucy..." Happiness is shown with "I'm alive at last and full of joy!" Many different emotions are shown in their extremes in the song in a short amount of time, and it very much does display insanity in many different ways at once.
I'm seeing so much Sweeney film v. Sweeney stage in the comments. Let's clear up one thing folks, you really can't compare the two. Beyond the obvious limitations on stage performance, Johnny Depp's Sweeney has been Burtonized, and has an even darker feel to it. Also, Johnny's Sweeney isn't addressing the audience at that point. But what I feel most disables comparison is that Johnny's is Cockney, Sweeney in every stage production before (and those true to the source material after) the movie have a slight RP accent ( RP is more pronounced, think snotty British. Sweeney's RP is distinct diction, but not over the top ).
But that's not why the film was bad--the differences between stage and screen had nothing to do with its quality. It was bad because it miscast the parts. Jonny's voice was too high--his accent had nothing to do with anything--and he wasn't threatening enough. Yeah, sure, they made him look like a vampire, but that's not threatening. In every other production, Sweeney's played by bigger dudes with deeper, darker voices, and they all played the part much more unhinged than Jonny. He had no reason to play that role. H. B. Carter too, had no reason to play Lovett--she was too pretty and too... sweet. Mrs. Lovett's the cockney one, she's the one living in the projects, poor as shit, selling cat pies. She's rough, and tough. Carter wasn't that. Casting's hugely important in these things, and if you don't get it right, you're screwed.
@@brxzbze Well, no, Len Cariou is Canadian, but for whatever reason Hal Prince kept him neutral and let everybody else spin into English-music-hall-land.
I will never ever forget, in the Broadway production, at the 1:25 moment, when he lifted the razor from its case and the spotlight caught it....total goosebumps.
I agree :) And I am thankful to the Tim Burton movie for getting me curious about the novel and the original stage musical ♥ Only due to the movie, I got to enjoy greatness like this song right here.
@@Visitormassacre It’s all about opinions! There are things you can and things you can’t do in movies, regarding copyright. So I think, with what Johnny did with what he had, was quite amazing. A fantastic singer too!
marshmallow pit same! I was very surprised when I first heard him sing, he is really good! Of course he isn’t as good as the broadway actors, because he didn’t have as much training as them! But he is still amazing
I figure this song is almost like a "small talk you make with the hairdresser" kinda thing. Like these weren't the exact words uttered, but the general mundane conversation Sweeney engages in to make sure Turpin expects nothing. Sweeney is like "guys talk about women, right?" Just a thought; I realize all the other contexts to the song too, obviously.
I used to be terrified of this play/movie as a child, but as I got older I began to realize that it is just a dark, twisted love story. I retracted my feelings of fear and terror from Mr. Barker, and replaced those feelings with sorrow and remorse for all that he had been through, and all that he lost.
I was almost the opposite, funny enough. When I first learned about the movie in middle school, I thought that I wasn't going to think much about what was clearly shown to be a murderous barber(I didn't watch the trailers or something that shared the plot) but I LOVED the opening track(especially since I started having an immense interest in the pipe organ playing minor chords thanks to this: ua-cam.com/video/S6mRGG2ws5M/v-deo.html) so I decided to give it a watch on the internet. Intrigued that this was a dark musical(though naturally put off by the blood and gore, especially from phobias of anything breaking apart and killing me gruesomely thanks to accidentally seeing a trailer for Final Destination 3 at one point), which I felt was on the lines of The Nightmare Before Christmas I decided to listen some more, and THEN I got to the end of the number "Poor Thing", and(being a pre teen who was just starting to learn about sex before sex ed) I felt so scarred by the rape scene(and probably still am)(especially of the reactions those damn party goes gave) that It made the blood and gore completely fine for me soon after. Even more so, because of how traumatized I was at what Judge Turpin did, and how I somehow interpreted myself having the same facial expressions he had before he raped Lucy, I became even more horrified at the though if I might do this horrible thing myself, or even be accosted to do such by social standards I didn't understand(like the Beadle did, just so he could witness it himself) and I didn't want to hurt anyone! So I felt that Sweeney was better than the Judge in a way(that I thought he only killed bad people in a sense) and felt such an intense joy when he finally got his revenge and killed the Judge. But yes, I too also related to Benjamin Barker and empathized with him because I was also having trouble with having to be around people in middle school, due to being mocked and bullied by my peers for trying to be a good student and good kid(when they themselves were focused on the exact opposite)(Because of this, I even had to endure classes where the teacher had to constantly yell out the lectures to get everyone to stop talking and focus, when I myself was already more willing to learn than they were, and thus was thankfully treated more kindly when I mustered up the courage to ask them for help on assignments and such), and from his breakdown here I felt I got the essence of his emotional turmoil through the complex music and normal speech patterned lyrics, as If it were my own. Not in the sense that I wanted to murder anybody myself, but that I understood through Sweeney's expressed mentality(even if it took me a while to come to terms with it) there are both bad people and good people out there, as well as people in between, and the fact that Sweeney's thought process was laid out so well by this score helped me get a better grasp of trying to understand other people(musically in a sense), as well as understanding myself. Later on, as I ended up getting more invested in composer/lyricist Stephen Sondheim's other works, and came across different characters I could relate to more than Sweeney(like Henrik from A Little Night Music(who I related more with a shared frustration of wanting to be and do good but not being taken seriously by others, being mocked and such, and put on hold from talking too much. So I thus felt very relating to him through the song "Later"), and George Seurat from Sunday in The Park with George(whom with I realized my obsession for detail and musical art, despite not being around people as much as I should, has helped me better understand and appreciate myself more, and even inspired me to become a composer someday myself! And thus I understood perfectly where George was coming from in "Finishing The Hat") and I see now how different of a person Sweeney was than what I thought, and also what I am today, and that much of his turmoil came from a hell bent obsessiveness for revenge and from not letting himself try to move on from his destroyed past life. Sondheim himself says that the story is about revenge and what it can do to a person obsessed with it, so I learned to disassociate from what I thought was "right" about Sweeney(like acknowledging that in this number he saying he's going to kill EVERYONE, regardless if there good or bad) but still accept him as (even in the tragical sense) a human being broken by others to the point where he can only find "peace" in breaking other humans before being rid of for good himself(which he probably even wanted too). His tragedy was, in a sense, my enlightenment for how I can better understand other people and improve my way of thinking and getting around life. I still feel remorse though, I admit, for the man he once was and how cruelly he was twisted by the world, all for them wanting to take advantage of what he had(his wife and child whom he truly loved dear), just as much as I feel pity for how cruelly he responded in return. 😔 Sorry about this turning you short paragraph into an essay, but I just want to express that, in a way, I get what you mean. :)
I must say I enjoy the movie's "Even YOU, Mrs. Lovette. Even I!" and wish it was said here. It's so dark and a perfect statement to match just how much he's lost it here
PRETTY WOMEN LYRICS [TODD] What can I do for you today sir? Stylish trimming of the hair? Soothing skin massage [TURPIN] You see sir a man infatued with love Her ardent and eager slave So fetch the pomade and pumice stone And lend me a more seductive tone A sprinkling perhaps of French cologne But first sir I think a shave [TODD] The closest I ever gave *whistles* [TURPIN] In a merry mood today Mr. Todd? [TODD] 'Tis your delight, sir, catching fire From one man to the next [TURPIN] 'Tis true, sir, love can still inspire The blood to pound, the heart leap higher What more Can man require What more Can man require [TURPIN] Than love, sir [TODD] More than love, sir [TURPIN] What, sir? [TODD] Women [TURPIN] Ah yes, women [TODD] Pretty women Now then my friend Now to your purpose Patience. Enjoy it Revenge can't be taken in haste [TURPIN] Make haste and if we wed you'll be commended, sir [TODD] My lord And who may it be said is your intended, sir? [TURPIN] My ward And pretty as a rose bud [TODD] Pretty as her mother? [TURPIN] What? What was that? [TODD] Nothing, sir. Nothing May we proceed? Pretty women Fascinating... Sipping coffee Dancing... Pretty women Are a wonder Pretty women! Sitting in the window or Standing on the stair Something in them cheers the air Pretty women [TURPIN] Silhouetted... [TODD] Stay within you [TURPIN] Glancing... [TODD] Stay forever [TURPIN] Breathing lightly... [TODD] Pretty women [TURPIN/TODD] Pretty women! [TODD] Blowing out Their candles Or combing out their Hair Even when they leave They still Are there They're there Ah! Pretty women At their mirrors [TURPIN] Blowing out Their candles Combing out their hair Then they leave Even when they leave you and vanish They somehow can still can remain There with you There with you Ah! [TURPIN] In their gardens [TODD] Letter-writing [TURPIN] Flower-picking [TODD] Weather-watching [TODD/TURPIN] How they make a man sing! Proof of heaven as you're living Pretty women! Sir, pretty women! Yes, here's to pretty women! Pretty women Pretty women Pretty women [ANTHONY] She says she'll marry me Sunday Everything's settled We leave tonight [TURPIN] You! [ANTHONY (spoken)] Judge Turpin! [TURPIN (spoken)] There is indeed a higher power to warn me this in time! Johanna, elope with you? I'll lock her up in some obscure retreat, where neither you nor any other vile corrupting youth shall ever lay eyes on her again! [ANTHONY (spoken)] But, sir, I beg of you! [TURPIN (spoken)] And as for you, barber! It is all too clear what company you keep. Service them well and hold their custom for you'll have none of mine! [ANTHONY (spoken)] Mr. Todd... [TODD (spoken)] Out
*Spoilers* Without the Judge and Mrs.Lovett’s lustrous desires for Lucy and Todd, the whole story would not have been that tragic in the end. I mean, Todd would not have been deprived of his family and if he had, Lovett would have told him that his wife was alive, and maybe everything would have changed. I find it interesting that they sing again this song about pretty women, right after Todd killed his wife, whose beauty was killed by trauma because of the Judge’s rape. In the end, Todd recognizes his wife BY THE FIRE (that passionate fire and love that both drove him insane), which is in contradiction with the SEA Lovett mentioned in her fantasies. Having recognized his wife after the murder and felt incredibly lost, he thus truly loved her to the point of not wanting to live after what he has done. The Judge, on the other hand, has completely lost interest when it came to Lucy after his crime.
[TODD] What can I do for you today sir? Stylish trimming of the hair? Soothing skin massage [TURPIN] You see sir a man infatued with love Her ardent and eager slave So fetch the pomade and pumice stone And lend me a more seductive tone A sprinkling perhaps of French cologne But first sir I think a shave [TODD] The closest I ever gave *whistles* [TURPIN] In a merry mood today Mr. Todd? [TODD] 'Tis your delight, sir, catching fire From one man to the next [TURPIN] 'Tis true, sir, love can still inspire The blood to pound, the heart leap higher What more Can man require [TODD (overlapping)] What more Can man require [TURPIN] Than love, sir [TODD] More than love, sir [TURPIN] What, sir? [TODD] Women [TURPIN] Ah yes, women [TODD] Pretty women Now then my friend Now to your purpose Patience. Enjoy it Revenge can't be taken in haste [TURPIN] Make haste and if we wed you'll be commended, sir [TODD] My lord And who may it be said is your intended, sir? [TURPIN] My ward And pretty as a rose bud [TODD] Pretty as her mother? [TURPIN] What? What was that? [TODD] Nothing, sir. Nothing May we proceed? Pretty women Fascinating... Sipping coffee Dancing... Pretty women Are a wonder Pretty women! Sitting in the window or Standing on the stair Something in them cheers the air Pretty women
[TURPIN] Silhouetted... [TODD] Stay within you [TURPIN] Glancing... [TODD] Stay forever [TURPIN] Breathing lightly... [TODD] Pretty women [TURPIN/TODD] Pretty women! [TODD] Blowing out Their candles Or combing out their Hair Even when they leave They still Are there They're there Ah! Pretty women At their mirrors[TURPIN] Blowing out Their candles Combing out their hair Then they leave Even when they leave you and vanish They somehow can still can remain There with you There with you Ah! [TURPIN] In their gardens [TODD] Letter-writing [TURPIN] Flower-picking [TODD] Weather-watching [TODD/TURPIN] How they make a man sing! Proof of heaven as you're living Pretty women! Sir, pretty women! Yes, here's to pretty women! Pretty women Pretty women Pretty women [ANTHONY] She says she'll marry me Sunday Everything's settled We leave tonight [TURPIN] You! [ANTHONY (spoken)] Judge Turpin! [TURPIN (spoken)] There is indeed a higher power to warn me this in time! Johanna, elope with you? I'll lock her up in some obscure retreat, where neither you nor any other vile corrupting youth shall ever lay eyes on her again! [ANTHONY (spoken)] But, sir, I beg of you! [TURPIN (spoken)] And as for you, barber! It is all too clear what company you keep. Service them well and hold their custom for you'll have none of mine! [ANTHONY (spoken)] Mr. Todd... [TODD (spoken)] Out
[TODD] I had him! His throat was bare beneath my hand [MRS. LOVETT] Now, now, dear, don't fret- [TODD] No, I had him! His throat was there and now he'll never come again [MRS. LOVETT] Easy now, hush love hush I keep telling you [TODD] When? [MRS. LOVETT] What's your rush? [TODD] Why did I wait? You told me to wait! Now he'll never come again There's a hole in the world like a great black pit And it's filled with people who are filled with shit And the vermin of the world inhabit it But not for long... They all deserve to die Tell you why, Mrs. Lovett, tell you why Because in all of the whole human race Mrs. Lovett, there are two kinds of men and only two There's the one staying put in his proper place And the one with his foot in the other one's face Look at me, Mrs Lovett, look at you No, we all deserve to die Even you, Mrs. Lovett, even I Because the lives of the wicked should be made brief For the rest of us death will be relief We all deserve to die! And I'll never see Johanna No I'll never hug my girl to me Finished! Alright! You, sir, how about a shave? Come and visit your good friend Sweeney You, sir, too, sir? Welcome to the grave I will have vengeance I will have salvation Who, sir, you, sir? No one's in the chair, come on! Come on! Sweeney's waiting I want you, bleeders You sir! Anybody! Gentlemen, now don't be shy! Not one man, no, nor ten men Nor a hundred can assuage me I will have you! And I will get him back even as he gloats In the meantime I'll practice on less honorable throats And my Lucy lies in ashes And I'll never see my girl again! But the work waits! I'm alive at last! And I'm full of joy!
Ah Len Cariou makes the perfect Sweeney Todd. I've heard half a dozen others who tried to fill his shoes, but there is definitely no one who can compare to his magnificence. It's not even as if I'm biased because he's the first one I heard; I heard his version of Sweeney after I'd been introduced to other actors, and instantly I knew that Johnny Depp and Michael Cerveris have nothing on Cariou.
This makes things very divided for me. Honestly, both this and Johnny Depp's performance sound almost identical, with Cariou putting more of an emotional, heartbroken take and Depp having a similar take but with a bit more insanity. While you have Hearn's version where it's more manic. Epiphany to me sounds like a song that's insane but also sad, seeing all the shit Todd goes through. I love George Hearn's performance as Todd, but to me it looks like Cariou has the best Epiphany. I love all the versions of Epiphany, but I still think Cariou's is the best.
According to Into the Hood's analysis of the score, the first part of the melody is the Beggar Woman's leitmotif as it's what she always sings when singing "Alms, Alms". ua-cam.com/video/Fuqn0C4TEPU/v-deo.html The last part of the melody can be seen as part of a section of the melody of "Green Finch and Linnet Bird". Listen to "Nightingale, Blackbird" as the first syllable being cut and the rest of the syllables with "Alms, Alms", so it becomes "Alms, Alms, Blackbird", and you get this melody! So in a way, you can see this as Sweeney conflating his crushed dreams of seeing his wife, and of seeing his daughter, into one cellular unobtainable(or so he's left to believe) desire that eats at the very last mentally controlled parts of his mind, before he suddenly alters that desire into revenge and killing soon after, and yet still clings to the now unhinged memory of whom he lost without really distinguishing the two from each other. I mean he goes from "And my Lucy lies in ashes" to "And I'll never see my girl again", before proclaiming "I'm alive at last, and I'm full of joy!" and all while still repeating that same melody in different variants in the end. Who's to say that his "girl" is still Johanna and that he's not still talking about Lucy? SPOILERS(for those learning or planning to see the show/movie for the first time): And on top of that, when he unknowingly kills Lucy(in which the brass and woodwinds blare out this melody in full force), and then finds this out, he once again sings the full melody remorsefully over her corpse, perhaps indicating that he's completely lost hope(and his mind) and seems to somehow believe that both Lucy and Johanna are gone(dead) when one of them dies. He's so obsessively broken with what he lost that he doesn't even realize that he actually just met, and yet also almost killed, Johanna before this revelation. Just a complex thought I thought to bring up, once again showing my own obsessive analyzing of Sondheim's work, and how his choice songwriting placements of motifs and leitmotifs can dictate or suggest unspoken narratives around certain characters and different acting choices a performer can take from the material beyond the script itself! 😁
@@michaelwilliamybarra2409 Your analysis is so wonderful! I also love analyzing Sondheim’s work (I discovered this musical just a week ago) and finding new leitmotifs in the music leaves me fascinated every time! I’ve found something, listen carefully at the instrumental of the FINALE (so obvious SPOILERS) sequence of the soundtrack: ua-cam.com/video/WcNBhpPdXl8/v-deo.html I lastly commented on it. at 3:09, it’s the same melody Sweeney sang in “Epiphany” : “and my Lucy lies in aches.” Deep. THE MUSIC IS SCREAMING at Sweeney the woman’s identity. Right at the moment he unknowingly killed his wife. It’s brutal and makes it incredibly more tragic. Also at 6:08 - 6:12 notice the continuing melody mix between : “For a miserable woman” (Lucy’s theme) and (though more subtle here than in the movie version) 6:13 - 6:25 “and my Lucy lies in aches” (Sweeney’s melody). IT’S SO IMPRESSIVE. Sondheim is a genius. I haven’t noticed it until now. Also Mrs.Lovett singing "Toby? Where are you now?" gave me Coraline's the other mother flashbacks, what a manipulative woman, she really thought Toby would appear when Todd was right here...
I do appreciate the style and skill with which Depp approached the role, but I just think he doesn't give off the same air of passion and grandness that Cariou does. When it comes down to it, I think I just don't like Burton's interpretation of the play, so I suppose it's unfair of me to compare the two, considering it's not Depp's fault. But I don't think that the medium really dictates their ability to be Sweeney Todd. When it comes down to it, I prefer Cariou's interpretation and singing.
It is SO much better when this ending of "Epiphany" is used rather than the massive B-flat major chord that is meant to get applause. That is how I heard it the first time, with an unbelievably devastating performance by George Hearn (the wonderful San Francisco concert with Patti LuPone as Mrs. Lovett). I felt something was very wrong with the ending, and then I discovered this ending and everything fell into place.
Pretty women Fascinating Sipping coffee, Dancing pretty women Pretty women Are a wonder. Pretty women! Sitting in the window or Standing on the stair Something in them cheers the air. Pretty women Silhouetted Stay within you, Glancing stay forever, Breathing lightly Pretty women, Pretty women! Blowing out their candles or Combing out their hair, Even when they leave They still are there. They're there Ah! Pretty women, at their mirrors, In their gardens, Letter-writing, Flower-picking, Weather-watching. How they make a man sing! Proof of heaven as you're living, Pretty women! Yes, pretty women! Here's to pretty women, Pretty women, Pretty women, Pretty women
why didn't anthony look through the window? like, i'm sure there were windows, especially near the door. he's seen the judge, so i'm sure he'd recognize the face. but no he just runs in like oh mr todd i see you've got a customer but here's the plan oh wait the worst guy to exist is here!! you know what? why didn't sweeney lock the door? why??
A Anthony was running full plet in happiness B the judge was facing away from Anthony's PoV C Todd told Lovett to let noone bother him as people came via her shop to see hom. Anthony bypasted this and Lovett didn't see him in time
both the film and the stage production are good. if you like films and the vibe they bring. perfect! if you like stage productions and the vibe they bring. also perfect! don’t let the comments sway your opinion
I personally like Johnny's voice for Sweeney better, but the overall vibe of the musical is better. It brings a more lighthearted tone compared to the movie that absolutely had me rattled when I first watched it. I will say it's a gorgeous movie, but I personally wouldn't watch it again because it focusses a bit too much on the blood and gore and gave me nightmares for weeks, and not the "scare myself for fun" kind. The design and lighting is gorgeous, but I prefer the writing of song and music in the movie but the staging and expression of the musical. :) A nice hybrid.
I agree, it is really odd. Mrs. Lovitt and others are restricted to the accent, but Sweeney and Turpin are pretty much free to use whatever accents they feel like.
Love the Juges voice in this and how well it went with Sweeney's they sound great together! and wow that laugh sounds like a Freddy Krueger laugh 0.0 that was scary!! lol XD
The gentleman who plays Judge Turpin here has a beautiful voice, but ALSO does a supremely good job of embodying everything that makes him a freakin’ CREEP, marrying such a young girl, after legit r*ping her mom!
Okay, I've never Seen Sweeny Todd, I just found this on the sidebar while listening to A Little Night Music soundtrack and the comments...What. I mean, what? Whaaat the heeeck? Is this about a cannibal or something? XD
Oh goodness honey okay buckle up Man was just giving guy a shave, wanted to slit his throat bc guy did bad things to man & family, but didn’t get the chance. Now he’s mad & plans to kill others as practice for his next chance. As for the cannibalism...man ends up giving his victims to girl downstairs, who uses the meat to make the “best meat pies in London”.
Stop dissing on the movie. They are two different types of productions, of course they are going to be different! I think Johnny Depp was a wonderful Sweeney as well as Len Cariou, so stop this useless arguement!
I prefer depps just because of the growling insanity he protrays is terrifying, but this is good both technically and showing a bit more jovial insanity.
I think there's not much anger in his voice when he sang epiphany.. I prefer George Hearn version xD (although yes, many people think he's more like 'shouting' than 'singing' but I like him better.) But Len's voice is so smooth 3 3
While Len Cariou is a highly trained, excellent singer (pause for the wrath of the theater buffs)... I prefer the emotion in Johnny Depp's performance. The way he bounces from grief/despair to homicidal rage as he switches verses is so enthralling.
Personally, Cerveris is my favorite Sweeney Todd. He had the most energy, the most passion, and the best singing voice. Again, it's my personal opinion, don't anyone get offended.
yeah he did have the most energy, but he made the role more comic than it should have. the entire production was full of little jokes that took away from the atmosphere.
SuperCrudBucket That wasn't, however, Cerveris's own doing. *Everyone* made slight jokes like that throughout the play, and the entire relationship between Anthony and Johanna was in and of itself a parody of Romeo-and-Juliet-type relationships. Sweeney Todd was never intended to be a total tragedy with no difference from the one tragedy formula out there. I'm personally quite thankful that the characters leave room for me to laugh. Tragedy without comedy is a very shallow thing.
+Daniel Hettinger Adding onto your statement, I find the comedy adds to the insanity of the characters and story. Like "What? I'm laughing at a show that contains CANNIBALISM and PEDOPHILIA"
Len Cariou and Edmund Lyndeck's Pretty Women are the best. But I liked George Hearn's Epiphany better, it really showed Sweeney losing every shred of sanity he had left. I also prefer Patti Lupone's Mrs Lovetts if you haves ta know
I always felt this song gave you a glimpse of what if, they might actually have what it took to be friends if the judge wasn't a molesting monster and Sweeny wasn't a homicidal psychopath. For this one moment between them, they are able to appreciate each other's company
The voices and singing in the movie is just so much softer than in the musical. I think that's what helped it gain more critical acclaim. As far as making movies from a prior source go, it did a relatively good job.
When the ad is for the dollar shave club lol
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I got it too. I fell to pieces laughing.
Sometimes, UA-cam sticks the landing. ;)
The ad I got was the "wait a minute, who are you?" meme
I'm not kidding.
Okay you got me fam
"Pretty as her mother?" Gotta love that line.
NightGallows King shit from Todd right there
Sweeney testing the waters there...
The harmony on "how they make a man sing" absolute chills!!
Fun fact, my mom actually met Len in New York in a taxi and he did his Sweeny laugh for her.
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I bet a lot of the people watching this vid wish they were your mom.
That sounds kinda weird but you know what I mean
Len Cariou is convincing and compelling like no-one else in this role. When he sings elsewhere My Friends about his razors he is chillingly moving. Angela Lansbury is a superb complement to him. One feels only sadness and pity for him. Like so much of Sondheim's oeuvre, the audience is made to look at things in a different and perhaps unexpected way.
Have you seen the episode of Murder She Wrote that he guest stars in?
epiphany is SUCH an amazing song. it's the turning point for sweeney todd, both the character and the musical as a whole. from here on he's truly unhinged and things get more chaotic
ikr it goes from the lovely pretty women to we all deserve to die! lol its awesome
In my opinion, the greatest duet and solo in musical theatre history. And they just so happen to be seconds apart
At 3:04 when he hits "glancing" omg, that was hella clean.
eyeheartmusichella ikr
It really was amazing
Its as if a small bird entered into the song. I love that part. It's simultaneously beautiful and funny. Lol
eyeheartmusichella best part of it all
Pure bliss!
The tension builds and builds and then releases in that first "pretty women." So many favorite sondhiem moments. I HAD HIM!
Oh man I love this version of Epiphany! When he screams 'Come on come on" I got shivers. He did so well balancing the tones I feel! That enraged shout just made this version my favorite though
"jUDge tUrpIN!!!!11111!!1!!"
Todd was probably just thinking "Anthony I swear to the Lord above me, if you don't get out of here I'll slit your damn throat right here and now!"
What he says "out."
A reference to my 2nd favourite musical replying to a comment on my 1st!? THIS IS GREAT!
Accurate.
len cariou was amazing as sweeney todd, and angela lansbury was hilarious and wonderful! i was lucky to be able to see them perform this in the original production at the uris theatre... and for the people here saying it's not emotional enough, remember that this was a studio recording, not a live performance... trust me... this cast's performance of sweeney todd was nothing less than electrifying live... it's a shame there's no good video recordings of it...
Debstar Divine how does Len Cariou's performance compare to George Hearn's in your opinion? I'm thrilled that there are people on here who have seen the original production. Unfortunately I was not alive then
a lot of people seem to prefer george hearn's performance, and i think
they base that on his very strong voice... but to me, he lacked the
humor that cariou had, and seemed almost as if he was kind of a "one
note" kind of performance... he was forceful, and a good voice, but he
lacked something for me... len cariou was much more charismatic and
engaging for me, precisely because he didn't feel forced... and i think
his voice was more enjoyable as well as his wonderful chemistry with the miraculous angela lansbury :)
listen to the album version of "pretty women/epiphany" with len cariou, and also "a little priest" with cariou and lansbury... those pieces really showcase their fantastic talents.... i believe the poster here has uploaded them on their channel... unfortunately it lacks the audience in the recording, so you don't get to hear their reactions to the performance, but i remember that everyone was howling with laughter at "a little priest" :)
I love this version and I saw a live recording on UA-cam. Original cast is the best in my opinion.
The movie was good too, but you can't beat these vocals.
absolutely...
" How they make a man sing / proof of heaven as you're living" gives me chills: the lyrics, the music swelling, what it means for Sweeney and the hypocrisy of the judge.
this exactly, one of my favorite parts of the whole show
"Revenge. It's like a poison. It can take you over...before you know it, it can turn you into something ugly."
Aunt May; "Spider-Man 3"
"Fuck you Aunt May!"
Peter Parker - Spiderman 3
@@obscureentertainment8303 😆😂🤣
'Yeah fuck that noise' -Quentin Tarantino
@@obscureentertainment8303 If you watch porn hub you'll know he meant that literally
“‘Tis your delight, Sir, catching fire…”
Len’s voice is sooooo…😍
This song is NOT I repeat NOT about anger. Actually listen to him, and think about what has happened to him from up to this point and from before the beginning of the musical- he's lost so much and is sad. This is Epiphany- his Epiphany being that he believes that he has discovered that he has the right to kill people and that some deserve to die. It isn't anger- it's insanity. He is becoming deranged in his depression and wild passion. IT ISN'T ANGER it's insanity, which is what Len is conveying- which is why this is the best version, and why Len is pretty much the best Sweeney Todd.
It is both, in a way. Insanity is portrayed in many different ways. Anger is obviously shown in the lines such as "They all deserve to die," but sorrow is shown in "I'll never see my Lucy..." Happiness is shown with "I'm alive at last and full of joy!" Many different emotions are shown in their extremes in the song in a short amount of time, and it very much does display insanity in many different ways at once.
madness.
Very well said.
Still, not anger.
Ye
I'm seeing so much Sweeney film v. Sweeney stage in the comments. Let's clear up one thing folks, you really can't compare the two. Beyond the obvious limitations on stage performance, Johnny Depp's Sweeney has been Burtonized, and has an even darker feel to it. Also, Johnny's Sweeney isn't addressing the audience at that point. But what I feel most disables comparison is that Johnny's is Cockney, Sweeney in every stage production before (and those true to the source material after) the movie have a slight RP accent ( RP is more pronounced, think snotty British. Sweeney's RP is distinct diction, but not over the top ).
I love how you made "Burtonized" a thing! 😄😂
But that's not why the film was bad--the differences between stage and screen had nothing to do with its quality. It was bad because it miscast the parts. Jonny's voice was too high--his accent had nothing to do with anything--and he wasn't threatening enough. Yeah, sure, they made him look like a vampire, but that's not threatening. In every other production, Sweeney's played by bigger dudes with deeper, darker voices, and they all played the part much more unhinged than Jonny. He had no reason to play that role. H. B. Carter too, had no reason to play Lovett--she was too pretty and too... sweet. Mrs. Lovett's the cockney one, she's the one living in the projects, poor as shit, selling cat pies. She's rough, and tough. Carter wasn't that. Casting's hugely important in these things, and if you don't get it right, you're screwed.
Cariou didn't use any dialect at all.
@@tomshea8382 Yeah, he was pretty American??
@@brxzbze Well, no, Len Cariou is Canadian, but for whatever reason Hal Prince kept him neutral and let everybody else spin into English-music-hall-land.
I think this will always be my favorite rendition of Pretty Women. There's something almost melancholy behind the delivery I can't find in the others.
i love that you pointed this out. i definitely hear that melancholy, too. it honestly adds to the beauty of the piece
I love the part where mrs.lovetts reasoning voice is drowned out by the skull piercing sound of the instruments.
I was physically assaulted by those drums.
Literally thought someone was walking into my room when I heard them lmao
Thank you for everything Mr. Sondheim
Every time I listen to this Im like "Oh Antony you done screwed up"
"Damn it, Anthony! You just HAD to have the worst timing ever!'
Anthony’s “jUdge tUrPin!” delivery gets me every time xD
Same 🤣
I will never ever forget, in the Broadway production, at the 1:25 moment, when he lifted the razor from its case and the spotlight caught it....total goosebumps.
Film and theatre are two very different mediums. Depp was good for the film medium. Can't we just enjoy them both?
I agree :) And I am thankful to the Tim Burton movie for getting me curious about the novel and the original stage musical ♥ Only due to the movie, I got to enjoy greatness like this song right here.
No
@@Visitormassacre It’s all about opinions! There are things you can and things you can’t do in movies, regarding copyright. So I think, with what Johnny did with what he had, was quite amazing. A fantastic singer too!
marshmallow pit same! I was very surprised when I first heard him sing, he is really good! Of course he isn’t as good as the broadway actors, because he didn’t have as much training as them! But he is still amazing
John Wilkes Booth has spoken.
Every recording has its highlights as far as performances, but musically, you can’t beat the bombast of this orchestra.
I figure this song is almost like a "small talk you make with the hairdresser" kinda thing. Like these weren't the exact words uttered, but the general mundane conversation Sweeney engages in to make sure Turpin expects nothing. Sweeney is like "guys talk about women, right?" Just a thought; I realize all the other contexts to the song too, obviously.
I thought Todd was just familiar with Turpin's pervertedness so he played into it to make him comfortable
When the Judge starts singing I always get chills...
I will capture this role. it's on my list. I want this worse than I want Othello.😔
Your comment is 7 years old. Did you ever get them? I hope you did! I was in Sweeney at the Seattle Rep years ago. It shaped my theatrical life.
7:08 “EEEEEEEEeeEeEEeEeEeeeVIIIILLLL”-mermaid man
More like 7:05, right(or do you mean the lyrics afterwards?)?
I used to be terrified of this play/movie as a child, but as I got older I began to realize that it is just a dark, twisted love story. I retracted my feelings of fear and terror from Mr. Barker, and replaced those feelings with sorrow and remorse for all that he had been through, and all that he lost.
I was almost the opposite, funny enough. When I first learned about the movie in middle school, I thought that I wasn't going to think much about what was clearly shown to be a murderous barber(I didn't watch the trailers or something that shared the plot) but I LOVED the opening track(especially since I started having an immense interest in the pipe organ playing minor chords thanks to this: ua-cam.com/video/S6mRGG2ws5M/v-deo.html) so I decided to give it a watch on the internet.
Intrigued that this was a dark musical(though naturally put off by the blood and gore, especially from phobias of anything breaking apart and killing me gruesomely thanks to accidentally seeing a trailer for Final Destination 3 at one point), which I felt was on the lines of The Nightmare Before Christmas I decided to listen some more, and THEN I got to the end of the number "Poor Thing", and(being a pre teen who was just starting to learn about sex before sex ed) I felt so scarred by the rape scene(and probably still am)(especially of the reactions those damn party goes gave) that It made the blood and gore completely fine for me soon after.
Even more so, because of how traumatized I was at what Judge Turpin did, and how I somehow interpreted myself having the same facial expressions he had before he raped Lucy, I became even more horrified at the though if I might do this horrible thing myself, or even be accosted to do such by social standards I didn't understand(like the Beadle did, just so he could witness it himself) and I didn't want to hurt anyone! So I felt that Sweeney was better than the Judge in a way(that I thought he only killed bad people in a sense) and felt such an intense joy when he finally got his revenge and killed the Judge.
But yes, I too also related to Benjamin Barker and empathized with him because I was also having trouble with having to be around people in middle school, due to being mocked and bullied by my peers for trying to be a good student and good kid(when they themselves were focused on the exact opposite)(Because of this, I even had to endure classes where the teacher had to constantly yell out the lectures to get everyone to stop talking and focus, when I myself was already more willing to learn than they were, and thus was thankfully treated more kindly when I mustered up the courage to ask them for help on assignments and such), and from his breakdown here I felt I got the essence of his emotional turmoil through the complex music and normal speech patterned lyrics, as If it were my own.
Not in the sense that I wanted to murder anybody myself, but that I understood through Sweeney's expressed mentality(even if it took me a while to come to terms with it) there are both bad people and good people out there, as well as people in between, and the fact that Sweeney's thought process was laid out so well by this score helped me get a better grasp of trying to understand other people(musically in a sense), as well as understanding myself.
Later on, as I ended up getting more invested in composer/lyricist Stephen Sondheim's other works, and came across different characters I could relate to more than Sweeney(like Henrik from A Little Night Music(who I related more with a shared frustration of wanting to be and do good but not being taken seriously by others, being mocked and such, and put on hold from talking too much. So I thus felt very relating to him through the song "Later"), and George Seurat from Sunday in The Park with George(whom with I realized my obsession for detail and musical art, despite not being around people as much as I should, has helped me better understand and appreciate myself more, and even inspired me to become a composer someday myself! And thus I understood perfectly where George was coming from in "Finishing The Hat") and I see now how different of a person Sweeney was than what I thought, and also what I am today, and that much of his turmoil came from a hell bent obsessiveness for revenge and from not letting himself try to move on from his destroyed past life. Sondheim himself says that the story is about revenge and what it can do to a person obsessed with it, so I learned to disassociate from what I thought was "right" about Sweeney(like acknowledging that in this number he saying he's going to kill EVERYONE, regardless if there good or bad) but still accept him as (even in the tragical sense) a human being broken by others to the point where he can only find "peace" in breaking other humans before being rid of for good himself(which he probably even wanted too).
His tragedy was, in a sense, my enlightenment for how I can better understand other people and improve my way of thinking and getting around life.
I still feel remorse though, I admit, for the man he once was and how cruelly he was twisted by the world, all for them wanting to take advantage of what he had(his wife and child whom he truly loved dear), just as much as I feel pity for how cruelly he responded in return. 😔
Sorry about this turning you short paragraph into an essay, but I just want to express that, in a way, I get what you mean. :)
@@michaelwilliamybarra2409 sir... This is a wendys
I must say I enjoy the movie's "Even YOU, Mrs. Lovette. Even I!" and wish it was said here. It's so dark and a perfect statement to match just how much he's lost it here
Judge Turpin: “There is indeed a higher power to warn me thus in time”
Sondheim: “Eyyyyy”
PRETTY WOMEN LYRICS
[TODD]
What can I do for you today sir? Stylish trimming of the hair? Soothing skin massage
[TURPIN]
You see sir a man infatued with love
Her ardent and eager slave
So fetch the pomade and pumice stone
And lend me a more seductive tone
A sprinkling perhaps of French cologne
But first sir I think a shave
[TODD]
The closest I ever gave
*whistles*
[TURPIN]
In a merry mood today Mr. Todd?
[TODD]
'Tis your delight, sir, catching fire
From one man to the next
[TURPIN]
'Tis true, sir, love can still inspire
The blood to pound, the heart leap higher
What more
Can man require
What more
Can man require
[TURPIN]
Than love, sir
[TODD]
More than love, sir
[TURPIN]
What, sir?
[TODD]
Women
[TURPIN]
Ah yes, women
[TODD]
Pretty women
Now then my friend
Now to your purpose
Patience. Enjoy it
Revenge can't be taken in haste
[TURPIN]
Make haste and if we wed you'll be commended, sir
[TODD]
My lord
And who may it be said is your intended, sir?
[TURPIN]
My ward
And pretty as a rose bud
[TODD]
Pretty as her mother?
[TURPIN]
What? What was that?
[TODD]
Nothing, sir. Nothing
May we proceed?
Pretty women
Fascinating...
Sipping coffee
Dancing...
Pretty women
Are a wonder
Pretty women!
Sitting in the window or
Standing on the stair
Something in them cheers the air
Pretty women
[TURPIN]
Silhouetted...
[TODD]
Stay within you
[TURPIN]
Glancing...
[TODD]
Stay forever
[TURPIN]
Breathing lightly...
[TODD]
Pretty women
[TURPIN/TODD]
Pretty women!
[TODD]
Blowing out
Their candles
Or combing out their
Hair
Even when they leave
They still
Are there
They're there
Ah!
Pretty women
At their mirrors
[TURPIN]
Blowing out
Their candles
Combing out their hair
Then they leave
Even when they leave you and vanish
They somehow can still can remain
There with you
There with you
Ah!
[TURPIN]
In their gardens
[TODD]
Letter-writing
[TURPIN]
Flower-picking
[TODD]
Weather-watching
[TODD/TURPIN]
How they make a man sing!
Proof of heaven as you're living
Pretty women! Sir, pretty women!
Yes, here's to pretty women!
Pretty women
Pretty women
Pretty women
[ANTHONY]
She says she'll marry me Sunday
Everything's settled
We leave tonight
[TURPIN]
You!
[ANTHONY (spoken)]
Judge Turpin!
[TURPIN (spoken)]
There is indeed a higher power to warn me this in time! Johanna, elope with you? I'll lock her up in some obscure retreat, where neither you nor any other vile corrupting youth shall ever lay eyes on her again!
[ANTHONY (spoken)]
But, sir, I beg of you!
[TURPIN (spoken)]
And as for you, barber! It is all too clear what company you keep. Service them well and hold their custom for you'll have none of mine!
[ANTHONY (spoken)]
Mr. Todd...
[TODD (spoken)]
Out
TODD:OUT I SAY OUT!!!!!!!!!!
OMG! I LOVE Len Cariou's voice!
Epiphany starts at 4:43
And this was BEFORE serious audio splicing and digital recording became popular! True talent!
Such musical genius on display. Imagine if men put their efforts toward the good, the true, and the beautiful again. What could be achieved..?
*Spoilers*
Without the Judge and Mrs.Lovett’s lustrous desires for Lucy and Todd, the whole story would not have been that tragic in the end. I mean, Todd would not have been deprived of his family and if he had, Lovett would have told him that his wife was alive, and maybe everything would have changed. I find it interesting that they sing again this song about pretty women, right after Todd killed his wife, whose beauty was killed by trauma because of the Judge’s rape.
In the end, Todd recognizes his wife BY THE FIRE (that passionate fire and love that both drove him insane), which is in contradiction with the SEA Lovett mentioned in her fantasies. Having recognized his wife after the murder and felt incredibly lost, he thus truly loved her to the point of not wanting to live after what he has done. The Judge, on the other hand, has completely lost interest when it came to Lucy after his crime.
5:10 that violin though
2:16 best moment in the whole song, up until Anthony walks in
[TODD]
What can I do for you today sir? Stylish trimming of the hair? Soothing skin massage
[TURPIN]
You see sir a man infatued with love
Her ardent and eager slave
So fetch the pomade and pumice stone
And lend me a more seductive tone
A sprinkling perhaps of French cologne
But first sir I think a shave
[TODD]
The closest I ever gave
*whistles*
[TURPIN]
In a merry mood today Mr. Todd?
[TODD]
'Tis your delight, sir, catching fire
From one man to the next
[TURPIN]
'Tis true, sir, love can still inspire
The blood to pound, the heart leap higher
What more
Can man require
[TODD (overlapping)]
What more
Can man require
[TURPIN]
Than love, sir
[TODD]
More than love, sir
[TURPIN]
What, sir?
[TODD]
Women
[TURPIN]
Ah yes, women
[TODD]
Pretty women
Now then my friend
Now to your purpose
Patience. Enjoy it
Revenge can't be taken in haste
[TURPIN]
Make haste and if we wed you'll be commended, sir
[TODD]
My lord
And who may it be said is your intended, sir?
[TURPIN]
My ward
And pretty as a rose bud
[TODD]
Pretty as her mother?
[TURPIN]
What? What was that?
[TODD]
Nothing, sir. Nothing
May we proceed?
Pretty women
Fascinating...
Sipping coffee
Dancing...
Pretty women
Are a wonder
Pretty women!
Sitting in the window or
Standing on the stair
Something in them cheers the air
Pretty women
[TURPIN]
Silhouetted...
[TODD]
Stay within you
[TURPIN]
Glancing...
[TODD]
Stay forever
[TURPIN]
Breathing lightly...
[TODD]
Pretty women
[TURPIN/TODD]
Pretty women!
[TODD]
Blowing out
Their candles
Or combing out their
Hair
Even when they leave
They still
Are there
They're there
Ah!
Pretty women
At their mirrors[TURPIN]
Blowing out
Their candles
Combing out their hair
Then they leave
Even when they leave you and vanish
They somehow can still can remain
There with you
There with you
Ah!
[TURPIN]
In their gardens
[TODD]
Letter-writing
[TURPIN]
Flower-picking
[TODD]
Weather-watching
[TODD/TURPIN]
How they make a man sing!
Proof of heaven as you're living
Pretty women! Sir, pretty women!
Yes, here's to pretty women!
Pretty women
Pretty women
Pretty women
[ANTHONY]
She says she'll marry me Sunday
Everything's settled
We leave tonight
[TURPIN]
You!
[ANTHONY (spoken)]
Judge Turpin!
[TURPIN (spoken)]
There is indeed a higher power to warn me this in time! Johanna, elope with you? I'll lock her up in some obscure retreat, where neither you nor any other vile corrupting youth shall ever lay eyes on her again!
[ANTHONY (spoken)]
But, sir, I beg of you!
[TURPIN (spoken)]
And as for you, barber! It is all too clear what company you keep. Service them well and hold their custom for you'll have none of mine!
[ANTHONY (spoken)]
Mr. Todd...
[TODD (spoken)]
Out
[TODD]
I had him!
His throat was bare beneath my hand
[MRS. LOVETT]
Now, now, dear, don't fret-
[TODD]
No, I had him!
His throat was there and now he'll never come again
[MRS. LOVETT]
Easy now, hush love hush
I keep telling you
[TODD]
When?
[MRS. LOVETT]
What's your rush?
[TODD]
Why did I wait?
You told me to wait!
Now he'll never come again
There's a hole in the world like a great black pit
And it's filled with people who are filled with shit
And the vermin of the world inhabit it
But not for long...
They all deserve to die
Tell you why, Mrs. Lovett, tell you why
Because in all of the whole human race
Mrs. Lovett, there are two kinds of men and only two
There's the one staying put in his proper place
And the one with his foot in the other one's face
Look at me, Mrs Lovett, look at you
No, we all deserve to die
Even you, Mrs. Lovett, even I
Because the lives of the wicked should be made brief
For the rest of us death will be relief
We all deserve to die!
And I'll never see Johanna
No I'll never hug my girl to me
Finished!
Alright! You, sir, how about a shave?
Come and visit your good friend Sweeney
You, sir, too, sir? Welcome to the grave
I will have vengeance
I will have salvation
Who, sir, you, sir?
No one's in the chair, come on! Come on!
Sweeney's waiting
I want you, bleeders
You sir! Anybody!
Gentlemen, now don't be shy!
Not one man, no, nor ten men
Nor a hundred can assuage me
I will have you!
And I will get him back even as he gloats
In the meantime I'll practice on less honorable throats
And my Lucy lies in ashes
And I'll never see my girl again!
But the work waits!
I'm alive at last!
And I'm full of joy!
I can’t listen to this without thinking of Mrs Potts
And looking at that maniac with the most scared Ariel expression during “Poor unfortunate souls” while Epiphany plays!
Ah Len Cariou makes the perfect Sweeney Todd. I've heard half a dozen others who tried to fill his shoes, but there is definitely no one who can compare to his magnificence.
It's not even as if I'm biased because he's the first one I heard; I heard his version of Sweeney after I'd been introduced to other actors, and instantly I knew that Johnny Depp and Michael Cerveris have nothing on Cariou.
george hearn Will alway be my fav Todd but Len is still amazing
My favorite Sweeney is I know this is pretty overrated but...Johnny Depp...
4:38 epiphany
sm life
This makes things very divided for me. Honestly, both this and Johnny Depp's performance sound almost identical, with Cariou putting more of an emotional, heartbroken take and Depp having a similar take but with a bit more insanity. While you have Hearn's version where it's more manic.
Epiphany to me sounds like a song that's insane but also sad, seeing all the shit Todd goes through. I love George Hearn's performance as Todd, but to me it looks like Cariou has the best Epiphany. I love all the versions of Epiphany, but I still think Cariou's is the best.
6:05 melody is the same as the intro of prologue I just noticed that and I’ve been listening to this for months
According to Into the Hood's analysis of the score, the first part of the melody is the Beggar Woman's leitmotif as it's what she always sings when singing "Alms, Alms".
ua-cam.com/video/Fuqn0C4TEPU/v-deo.html
The last part of the melody can be seen as part of a section of the melody of "Green Finch and Linnet Bird".
Listen to "Nightingale, Blackbird" as the first syllable being cut and the rest of the syllables with "Alms, Alms", so it becomes "Alms, Alms, Blackbird", and you get this melody!
So in a way, you can see this as Sweeney conflating his crushed dreams of seeing his wife, and of seeing his daughter, into one cellular unobtainable(or so he's left to believe) desire that eats at the very last mentally controlled parts of his mind, before he suddenly alters that desire into revenge and killing soon after, and yet still clings to the now unhinged memory of whom he lost without really distinguishing the two from each other.
I mean he goes from "And my Lucy lies in ashes" to "And I'll never see my girl again", before proclaiming "I'm alive at last, and I'm full of joy!" and all while still repeating that same melody in different variants in the end. Who's to say that his "girl" is still Johanna and that he's not still talking about Lucy?
SPOILERS(for those learning or planning to see the show/movie for the first time):
And on top of that, when he unknowingly kills Lucy(in which the brass and woodwinds blare out this melody in full force), and then finds this out, he once again sings the full melody remorsefully over her corpse, perhaps indicating that he's completely lost hope(and his mind) and seems to somehow believe that both Lucy and Johanna are gone(dead) when one of them dies. He's so obsessively broken with what he lost that he doesn't even realize that he actually just met, and yet also almost killed, Johanna before this revelation.
Just a complex thought I thought to bring up, once again showing my own obsessive analyzing of Sondheim's work, and how his choice songwriting placements of motifs and leitmotifs can dictate or suggest unspoken narratives around certain characters and different acting choices a performer can take from the material beyond the script itself! 😁
@@michaelwilliamybarra2409
Your analysis is so wonderful! I also love analyzing Sondheim’s work (I discovered this musical just a week ago) and finding
new leitmotifs in the music leaves me fascinated every time!
I’ve found something, listen carefully at the instrumental of the FINALE (so obvious SPOILERS) sequence of the soundtrack:
ua-cam.com/video/WcNBhpPdXl8/v-deo.html
I lastly commented on it.
at 3:09, it’s the same melody Sweeney sang in “Epiphany” : “and my Lucy lies in aches.” Deep.
THE MUSIC IS SCREAMING at Sweeney the woman’s identity. Right at the moment he unknowingly killed his wife.
It’s brutal and makes it incredibly more tragic.
Also at 6:08 - 6:12 notice the continuing melody mix between :
“For a miserable woman” (Lucy’s theme) and
(though more subtle here than in the movie version)
6:13 - 6:25 “and my Lucy lies in aches” (Sweeney’s melody).
IT’S SO IMPRESSIVE. Sondheim is a genius. I haven’t noticed it until now.
Also Mrs.Lovett singing "Toby? Where are you now?" gave me Coraline's the other mother flashbacks, what a manipulative woman, she really thought Toby would appear when Todd was right here...
My favorite track in the entire show. Never gets old.
Len carries the consistent pain through his breakdown. George emphasizes the collapse.
I do appreciate the style and skill with which Depp approached the role, but I just think he doesn't give off the same air of passion and grandness that Cariou does.
When it comes down to it, I think I just don't like Burton's interpretation of the play, so I suppose it's unfair of me to compare the two, considering it's not Depp's fault. But I don't think that the medium really dictates their ability to be Sweeney Todd. When it comes down to it, I prefer Cariou's interpretation and singing.
This version is much scarier, the newer version is just a pretty spiffed up version. I like them both equality~
It is SO much better when this ending of "Epiphany" is used rather than the massive B-flat major chord that is meant to get applause. That is how I heard it the first time, with an unbelievably devastating performance by George Hearn (the wonderful San Francisco concert with Patti LuPone as Mrs. Lovett). I felt something was very wrong with the ending, and then I discovered this ending and everything fell into place.
This is definitely the best version of pretty woman imo
I agree
4:39 Epiphany starts
Pretty women
Fascinating
Sipping coffee,
Dancing pretty women
Pretty women
Are a wonder.
Pretty women!
Sitting in the window or
Standing on the stair
Something in them cheers the air.
Pretty women
Silhouetted
Stay within you,
Glancing stay forever,
Breathing lightly
Pretty women,
Pretty women!
Blowing out their candles or
Combing out their hair,
Even when they leave
They still are there.
They're there
Ah! Pretty women, at their mirrors,
In their gardens,
Letter-writing,
Flower-picking,
Weather-watching.
How they make a man sing!
Proof of heaven as you're living,
Pretty women! Yes, pretty women!
Here's to pretty women,
Pretty women,
Pretty women,
Pretty women
why didn't anthony look through the window? like, i'm sure there were windows, especially near the door. he's seen the judge, so i'm sure he'd recognize the face. but no he just runs in like oh mr todd i see you've got a customer but here's the plan oh wait the worst guy to exist is here!! you know what? why didn't sweeney lock the door? why??
A Anthony was running full plet in happiness
B the judge was facing away from Anthony's PoV
C Todd told Lovett to let noone bother him as people came via her shop to see hom. Anthony bypasted this and Lovett didn't see him in time
This is such a good group of songs
Sweeny Todd:( sobbing) pretty as her mother?!
the way he says "how 'bout a shave?" at 6:19 is fucking chilling
both the film and the stage production are good. if you like films and the vibe they bring. perfect! if you like stage productions and the vibe they bring. also perfect! don’t let the comments sway your opinion
I personally like Johnny's voice for Sweeney better, but the overall vibe of the musical is better. It brings a more lighthearted tone compared to the movie that absolutely had me rattled when I first watched it. I will say it's a gorgeous movie, but I personally wouldn't watch it again because it focusses a bit too much on the blood and gore and gave me nightmares for weeks, and not the "scare myself for fun" kind. The design and lighting is gorgeous, but I prefer the writing of song and music in the movie but the staging and expression of the musical. :)
A nice hybrid.
Love how half the commenters don't know what the reply button is. Maybe it didn't exist back then
It didnt exist back then.
The closest I ever gave...
Pretty Women always causes me to smell the phantom scent of shaving cream.
I agree, it is really odd. Mrs. Lovitt and others are restricted to the accent, but Sweeney and Turpin are pretty much free to use whatever accents they feel like.
“The closest I ever gave” Sweeney wasn’t lying
Love the Juges voice in this and how well it went with Sweeney's they sound great together! and wow that laugh sounds like a Freddy Krueger laugh 0.0 that was scary!! lol XD
Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you!
THANK YOU!
The gentleman who plays Judge Turpin here has a beautiful voice, but ALSO does a supremely good job of embodying everything that makes him a freakin’ CREEP, marrying such a young girl, after legit r*ping her mom!
i think hearn is my favorite for this song
Cody Schmidt I totally agree
God Bless Sondheim
Okay, I've never Seen Sweeny Todd, I just found this on the sidebar while listening to A Little Night Music soundtrack and the comments...What. I mean, what? Whaaat the heeeck? Is this about a cannibal or something? XD
In a sense. He kills, she puts her victims in her meat pies.
Ohhhhh. Thank you!!
+The Bloody Flower Crown
I've heard it described as Victorian Joker and Harley Quinn.
Oh goodness honey okay buckle up
Man was just giving guy a shave, wanted to slit his throat bc guy did bad things to man & family, but didn’t get the chance. Now he’s mad & plans to kill others as practice for his next chance.
As for the cannibalism...man ends up giving his victims to girl downstairs, who uses the meat to make the “best meat pies in London”.
(͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Perhaps
theres a bit of the “kiss me” instrumental when anthony enters
Epiphany at 4:45
A Crazy Curt Ghibli no your not alone it is horrific
You can just FEEEL the tension
Todd: Even YOU Mrs.Lovett
Mrs.Lovett:O Shit
Stop dissing on the movie. They are two different types of productions, of course they are going to be different! I think Johnny Depp was a wonderful Sweeney as well as Len Cariou, so stop this useless arguement!
Bum bum bum bububum bum bum bum bububum
Gee, this is a thousand times better than the movie version.
His epiphany was misled. And/or imposing a Kavorkian wish on all. It is when he cracked.
Exactly!
I prefer depps just because of the growling insanity he protrays is terrifying, but this is good both technically and showing a bit more jovial insanity.
Check out George Hearn's version of Sweeney. The man has an utterly terrifyingly deep voice!! Ohhh love him!!
you have to scroll down pretty far to not get the movie versions.
Related video: Nostalgia Critic saying "You're crazy..."
Quite fitting.
I think there's not much anger in his voice when he sang epiphany.. I prefer George Hearn version xD (although yes, many people think he's more like 'shouting' than 'singing' but I like him better.)
But Len's voice is so smooth 3 3
Victor Garber ❤❤❤❤
While Len Cariou is a highly trained, excellent singer (pause for the wrath of the theater buffs)...
I prefer the emotion in Johnny Depp's performance. The way he bounces from grief/despair to homicidal rage as he switches verses is so enthralling.
Johnny Depp when he said FINISHED in a rage tone, it was like real rage on Sweeny Todd
Personally, Cerveris is my favorite Sweeney Todd. He had the most energy, the most passion, and the best singing voice. Again, it's my personal opinion, don't anyone get offended.
yeah he did have the most energy, but he made the role more comic than it should have. the entire production was full of little jokes that took away from the atmosphere.
SuperCrudBucket That wasn't, however, Cerveris's own doing. *Everyone* made slight jokes like that throughout the play, and the entire relationship between Anthony and Johanna was in and of itself a parody of Romeo-and-Juliet-type relationships. Sweeney Todd was never intended to be a total tragedy with no difference from the one tragedy formula out there. I'm personally quite thankful that the characters leave room for me to laugh. Tragedy without comedy is a very shallow thing.
SuperCrudBucket The original script has jokes... You can hear in the original people laughing at something every minute or two.
+Daniel Hettinger Adding onto your statement, I find the comedy adds to the insanity of the characters and story. Like "What? I'm laughing at a show that contains CANNIBALISM and PEDOPHILIA"
"Proof of heaven, as you're living..."
I agree completly but i am a len cariou fan.
Len Cariou and Edmund Lyndeck's Pretty Women are the best. But I liked George Hearn's Epiphany better, it really showed Sweeney losing every shred of sanity he had left. I also prefer Patti Lupone's Mrs Lovetts if you haves ta know
Well put.
I always felt this song gave you a glimpse of what if, they might actually have what it took to be friends if the judge wasn't a molesting monster and Sweeny wasn't a homicidal psychopath. For this one moment between them, they are able to appreciate each other's company
I love the way George hearn does it. Do you here how dramatic that orchestra is. It just doesn't match him
Thanks
Who plays Judge Turpin in this?
Medieaval Beabe Edmund Lyndeck
Richard Wicke Thanks.
@GHvoiceover You lucky son of a gun :D You actually got to see them on broadway? i envy you. :) it must have been amazing.
How to make this soundtrack 10x better: Replace "Pretty Women" with "Trump and Putin." You're welcome.
Yes, it did. Check IMDB.
Pretty women is such a lovely song...damn does it have to be so creepy at the same time?
Depp's subtleties are so great, and the movie and the play are such different animals I wouldn't find it fair to compare the performances.
The voices and singing in the movie is just so much softer than in the musical. I think that's what helped it gain more critical acclaim. As far as making movies from a prior source go, it did a relatively good job.