You should seriously sell these. Seriously. Start a website, take orders. Use this video on your front page, it shows the passion and care you exhibit in your projects. You have the resume and experience to make equipment like this professionally. You know what people want and need in equipment like this. Do it
I appreciate it. I'm about to start experimenting with selling synthetic quilts. Going to make 4 of them and throw them up on the website to see how they do.
for the tie out points, just put a the loops together and put a stick in the holes, it should stay together just with the pressure of the two pulling in opposite directions! great video by the way
How did it go? What have you learned since? Do you like the karo step still? Not too muc down shifting and such? I am looking at doing pretty much the same thing as this.
Awesome! Now I want to make one!!! A few questions..... 1. Do you have a pattern you can refer me to? I am 5'-9" tall and it sounds like the dimensions you used might work. 2. I was thinking of using an 800fp down.....mainly for budget purposes. Do you think 1 lb. of 800fp would make a solid 20 degree F quilt? If not, what would you recommend to achieve that? 3. Your revised links go to the MEMBRANE 10 material on RBTR's website. How does that compare to the material you used? Any ideas....or is it the same? That's it from me for now. Keep up the great work.......it is very inspiring!!
so, it's been almost 4 years since you made this quilt. How did the fabric perform? ie, did it hold up under constant use? Does the down still hold most of it's loft? You made it for the PCT hike, and I assume you used it on the CDT too, would you do anything different for those environments if you made this again?
I still use this quilt to this day. The fabric has been bombproof. The down has lost a little loft, probably due to 2 thru hikes worth of oil, sweat, and compression on it. It is still very warm at night and I wouldn't hesitate to use it around 10 degrees F. If I changed anything it would be adding long vertical baffles instead of the Karo Step. Because the down has lost a little loft, it tends to shift around a little more now. I have to fluff the quilt every night before bed to get the down where it need to be.
I was curious if you were planning on making a how-to-video on this quilt? I am planning on making my own to decrease the cost and I really like your design! Also the new website looks great!
I do have plans to, I just can't say when. I've kind of put it on the back burner because I'm about to build another quilt for the CDT and would like to document it even better than last time to make the best vid possible. I am however doing a write up/graphic to release on my website about quilt building. It is going to be pretty comprehensive though, so I can't commit to a release date just yet. Thanks!
Hey Joe, I love your DIY projects! I've made a tarp and a sleeping bag successfully, and a couple other projects that still need a bit of work...LOL I've got a question about packing the down sleeping bag. I've been thinking about using those ZipLock or Spacesaver vacuum bags(which I learned you don't have to use a vacuum) I've never really done anything with them but they seem like they would be a decent idea. I assume this has been thought of by someone out there, do you have any experience or know of anyone that's used them for their compressible items like bags, clothes, etc? They'd be clear, maybe lightweight?(IDK) waterproof, and obviously space saving. What's your thoughts?
I've never really seen those bags in person, though I'd imagine they could work. Most times, I just line my backpack with a trash compactor bag, and stuff my quilt into the bottom of the bag to compress it. Then, when I add the rest of my gear on top of the quilt, it is compressed even more and creates a sturdy base for everything else to sit on.
Did you ever consider using tulle, instead of nano bug netting, for your baffles? Do you have any thoughts about the pros/cons? Thanks - enjoying your vids!
Joe, does the Argon67 have a clear "top" and "bottom" for this use? As in, is there a shiny side and dull side, if so, which side faces outward (visible) and which side faces the inside (baffles sewn onto this side)? Thanks for the vid!
It does, it has a shiny and dull side like you described. The shiny side is the calendared side and normally faces inwards (as in it isn't exposed) on the quilt. Baffles are sewn onto the shiny side.
Cheers for the video mate. Where can I learn how to do this baffle technique? And how do you spell it? It looks quit hard to do, is it really worth it? Cheers man. :D
Hey Joe, I'm in preparation of building a quilt similar to this one and was wondering, How much length and width did you lose across the quilt due to bulge created by the loft after filling it? So i guess, how much longer and wider did you cut your fabric to achieve the final dimensions (about 56x76" if i recall from another one of your videos)?
+WillowFilmz I wish I had a calculated number for you on how much width is lost, but it's hard to say exactly. The planned dimensions were wider than I really needed in order to account for a bit of shrinkage. It's really not that big of a deal though. What tends to happen is that the top layer of the shell slopes down along the outside edges.
@@BackcountryBanter I really love your quilt tutorial. I'm about to make my own according to your instructions. Your baffles are quite large, 4"open 6"sewn 4" open, so 14x14" squares. Do you experience any troubles with the down material moving around too much due to the size? I'm concerned that with more, smaller baffles, the added baffle material will negatively affect compressability. (I plan on using synthetic UP material which is similar to 600 fill down)
Thanks. It can be hand stuffed into about an 8L stuff sack. With compression straps on my granite gear sack, I've probably gotten it down to around 6L. I should have shown that in the video...
A yard or two of nanoseeum should be sufficient for baffling. For the argon, it depends on your quilt length. At around 6 feet long, I think I ordered 5 yards of material just to be safe. That is, 2 yards for one side, 2 yards for the other side, and an extra yard just in case.
Check out Ray Jardine's book. I'm pretty sure he goes into detail on how to build a synthetic quilt (I haven't read it, so you may want to make sure this is correct before buying it). Also, head over to the hammockforums website. There's always someone working on and posting about synthetic quilt builds in the DIY forum.
The pound of 900fp water resistant down ended up costing about $128. Down has really gone up in price lately, not sure why. Everything else (argon fabric) was about $60 dollars more. So, not including man hours, you could estimate a similar quilt at around $188.
***** Check out this site. I got a 20% off coupon for signing up too. www.downlinens.com/products/premium-washed-down I've yet to make the quilt step by step video. I may actually do a write up on my website instead. We'll see. Should be coming soon though.
Backcountry Banter : I have a down (bed)quilt (king size) that I picked up at a thrift store for $10.00. I'm going to learn to sew on that - make a footbox and maybe pull the sewn through stiching together to make ghetto baffles and cut down the size while increasing the loft. It's something for me to learn with at a low investment. After I figure out a few lessons the hard way, I'd LOVE to make a quilt exactly like yours here! This is my dream quilt! Nice job 👍
Wow, that looks professional! I didn't realise you made it yourself until you started explaining it.
A beautiful piece of gear. I look forward to your steps videos. Thanks.
Pretty incredible handiwork there bud. Can't wait to see how it works for you on the trail.
You should seriously sell these. Seriously. Start a website, take orders. Use this video on your front page, it shows the passion and care you exhibit in your projects. You have the resume and experience to make equipment like this professionally. You know what people want and need in equipment like this. Do it
I appreciate it. I'm about to start experimenting with selling synthetic quilts. Going to make 4 of them and throw them up on the website to see how they do.
Backcountry Banter Terrific!
That came out really nice. Looking forward to the step by step vid. Thanks for sharing.
Beautiful quilt, nice job.
Bro that loft! I need one of these but just as a blanket! My gosh!
seriously amazing looking foward to the step by step
That is great, I love the color. How many hours did you invest on this?
for the tie out points, just put a the loops together and put a stick in the holes, it should stay together just with the pressure of the two pulling in opposite directions! great video by the way
Outstanding work, there, Biopthera. Like the "forced migration" baffle design. Can't see why that could not be used in normal hammock UQ's and OQ's.
How did it go? What have you learned since? Do you like the karo step still? Not too muc down shifting and such? I am looking at doing pretty much the same thing as this.
Awesome! Now I want to make one!!! A few questions.....
1. Do you have a pattern you can refer me to? I am 5'-9" tall and it sounds like the dimensions you used might work.
2. I was thinking of using an 800fp down.....mainly for budget purposes. Do you think 1 lb. of 800fp would make a solid 20 degree F quilt? If not, what would you recommend to achieve that?
3. Your revised links go to the MEMBRANE 10 material on RBTR's website. How does that compare to the material you used? Any ideas....or is it the same?
That's it from me for now. Keep up the great work.......it is very inspiring!!
Wow! I want one of these.
so, it's been almost 4 years since you made this quilt. How did the fabric perform? ie, did it hold up under constant use? Does the down still hold most of it's loft? You made it for the PCT hike, and I assume you used it on the CDT too, would you do anything different for those environments if you made this again?
I still use this quilt to this day. The fabric has been bombproof. The down has lost a little loft, probably due to 2 thru hikes worth of oil, sweat, and compression on it. It is still very warm at night and I wouldn't hesitate to use it around 10 degrees F. If I changed anything it would be adding long vertical baffles instead of the Karo Step. Because the down has lost a little loft, it tends to shift around a little more now. I have to fluff the quilt every night before bed to get the down where it need to be.
I was curious if you were planning on making a how-to-video on this quilt? I am planning on making my own to decrease the cost and I really like your design! Also the new website looks great!
I do have plans to, I just can't say when. I've kind of put it on the back burner because I'm about to build another quilt for the CDT and would like to document it even better than last time to make the best vid possible. I am however doing a write up/graphic to release on my website about quilt building. It is going to be pretty comprehensive though, so I can't commit to a release date just yet. Thanks!
Joe Brewer Thank you for your reply! I look forward to the write up
Hey Joe, I love your DIY projects! I've made a tarp and a sleeping bag successfully, and a couple other projects that still need a bit of work...LOL I've got a question about packing the down sleeping bag. I've been thinking about using those ZipLock or Spacesaver vacuum bags(which I learned you don't have to use a vacuum) I've never really done anything with them but they seem like they would be a decent idea. I assume this has been thought of by someone out there, do you have any experience or know of anyone that's used them for their compressible items like bags, clothes, etc? They'd be clear, maybe lightweight?(IDK) waterproof, and obviously space saving. What's your thoughts?
I've never really seen those bags in person, though I'd imagine they could work. Most times, I just line my backpack with a trash compactor bag, and stuff my quilt into the bottom of the bag to compress it. Then, when I add the rest of my gear on top of the quilt, it is compressed even more and creates a sturdy base for everything else to sit on.
Did you ever consider using tulle, instead of nano bug netting, for your baffles? Do you have any thoughts about the pros/cons? Thanks - enjoying your vids!
Wow. Very nice job.
How did the down worked for you in Washington's rainy weather? Did you have any troubles to keep it dry in there?
Joe, does the Argon67 have a clear "top" and "bottom" for this use? As in, is there a shiny side and dull side, if so, which side faces outward (visible) and which side faces the inside (baffles sewn onto this side)? Thanks for the vid!
It does, it has a shiny and dull side like you described. The shiny side is the calendared side and normally faces inwards (as in it isn't exposed) on the quilt. Baffles are sewn onto the shiny side.
Joe Brewer Thanks, Joe!
Cheers for the video mate. Where can I learn how to do this baffle technique? And how do you spell it? It looks quit hard to do, is it really worth it? Cheers man. :D
Awesome job brother!!!
Dude, great stuff. Maybe I somehow missed it, but 1) how much does it weigh, and 2) what's the packed size?
Packed size varies, but it's generally around 8x8x12. Weight is 21.2 oz.
Hey Joe, I'm in preparation of building a quilt similar to this one and was wondering, How much length and width did you lose across the quilt due to bulge created by the loft after filling it? So i guess, how much longer and wider did you cut your fabric to achieve the final dimensions (about 56x76" if i recall from another one of your videos)?
+WillowFilmz I wish I had a calculated number for you on how much width is lost, but it's hard to say exactly. The planned dimensions were wider than I really needed in order to account for a bit of shrinkage. It's really not that big of a deal though. What tends to happen is that the top layer of the shell slopes down along the outside edges.
@@BackcountryBanter I really love your quilt tutorial. I'm about to make my own according to your instructions. Your baffles are quite large, 4"open 6"sewn 4" open, so 14x14" squares. Do you experience any troubles with the down material moving around too much due to the size?
I'm concerned that with more, smaller baffles, the added baffle material will negatively affect compressability.
(I plan on using synthetic UP material which is similar to 600 fill down)
how small does it compact to?
Also, that looks really nice! I'm impressed!
Thanks. It can be hand stuffed into about an 8L stuff sack. With compression straps on my granite gear sack, I've probably gotten it down to around 6L. I should have shown that in the video...
How much of the argon and nanoseeum did you use? I'm thinking of doing a similar build. Thanks!
A yard or two of nanoseeum should be sufficient for baffling. For the argon, it depends on your quilt length. At around 6 feet long, I think I ordered 5 yards of material just to be safe. That is, 2 yards for one side, 2 yards for the other side, and an extra yard just in case.
Hi have you any tips where to get plans, ideas for synthetic quilts?
Check out Ray Jardine's book. I'm pretty sure he goes into detail on how to build a synthetic quilt (I haven't read it, so you may want to make sure this is correct before buying it). Also, head over to the hammockforums website. There's always someone working on and posting about synthetic quilt builds in the DIY forum.
Sweet job!
How has the down from downlinens.com worked out for you? Is it decent stuff?
It's going strong after two thru hikes, so I'd say it's doing quite well!
Great job!
Is the Argon 90 quiet? I'm wondering about an outerwear application.
It is fairly quiet actually. It'd be a little swishy in pants form, but no more than any other synthetic fabric.
all i got to say is WOW!!!
I can't seem to find the step by step video... is it on UA-cam?
Josiah A
Josiah A
What was your total cost to make this quilt. I can sew my ass off and would love to take this project on for myself and my kids.
+Chris Businsky I can't quite remember, but I think it was around $120-$150. Down is the most expensive part and makes up about 80-90% of that cost.
I'm sure its an outstanding quilt...but there is no way I would have the means to make one myself.
If you don't mind me asking how much roughly did this cost to make?
The pound of 900fp water resistant down ended up costing about $128. Down has really gone up in price lately, not sure why. Everything else (argon fabric) was about $60 dollars more. So, not including man hours, you could estimate a similar quilt at around $188.
Biophthera Where oh where did you get down for that price?! Please share.
***** lol yeah what he said where did u find that down for that price and I can't find the video of the step by step of making it... Help?
***** Check out this site. I got a 20% off coupon for signing up too. www.downlinens.com/products/premium-washed-down
***** Check out this site. I got a 20% off coupon for signing up too. www.downlinens.com/products/premium-washed-down
I've yet to make the quilt step by step video. I may actually do a write up on my website instead. We'll see. Should be coming soon though.
Estimated cost to make versus purchasing?
~$170 to make vs. ~$450 to buy. Though down prices have gone up a little.
Backcountry Banter : I have a down (bed)quilt (king size) that I picked up at a thrift store for $10.00. I'm going to learn to sew on that - make a footbox and maybe pull the sewn through stiching together to make ghetto baffles and cut down the size while increasing the loft. It's something for me to learn with at a low investment. After I figure out a few lessons the hard way, I'd LOVE to make a quilt exactly like yours here! This is my dream quilt! Nice job 👍
I'm out at baffles :(
"keep out the giraffes"
A beautiful piece of gear. I look forward to your steps videos. Thanks.