Gods are in it because gacha games, but ive only seen crash fever (en version is killed lmfao) do something like bc, and even then they only share the names with actual philosophers in crash fever
Fighting gods in video games are pretty commun, but philosophers ? I don't remember even fighting one with all the games I played. And honestly now I want more of that.
People seem to have a misconception about the imagery of Socrates. He’s a “pillar of our understanding of the universe” or rather part of the foundation of how we perceive it. The faceless nature of the enemy means they’re a representation of the concept itself and its expression. We are all cats and always have been :3
@@artchanell4242FOR REAL. i tried emailing Ponos to try and learn who composed the OST (because the damn game has no credits!) but their reply was basically "mhm. the soundtrack sure was composed.". idk why they're so stingy about letting people know
0:42 & 0:51 to 1:15 the fact you can hear the rush theme motif makes this theme more epic than it should be I forgot that some theme's have that already like "Invading japan" and "Slow Battle"
My face when its a difficult exam Also i really like the idea of ponos, instead of just using moon themes they just created a whole new theme ZL is very wild
Or they could make an even more epic version later on. I mean it is not like they dont have budget for music. And this game deserves any new music it can get with its size.
Cyberpunk is still viable on that stage in spite of it. Actually it turns out to be one of the better units to bring, even if the slow is mostly to prevent Doge Darks from eating Octo cat.
0:17 I absolutely LOVE this brass section. Oh, if we’re going off of the trend of Philosophers as sage pillars, we could see Plato and Aristotle here too.
That’s true, but stuff like The Face, Nyandam and Bun Bun weren’t higher-dimesional entities whose very presence makes the world around them collapse back into what can be charitably described as the universe’s most primal state.
the sage trait is nice because it has been mentioned at the end of UL and it finally got added, but its 80% immunity to any debuff effect's duration (and KB distance) makes it hard to stall if you rely on debuffers lol tankers and dmg dealers are the best options tbh
This music sounds very heroic, which is funny because the cats are the reason the universes are breaking apart. (Insert game theory music) maybe its because these sages are the key to saving the multiverse from collapsing.
This is just a thought of mine. The music feels very urgent and as stated, everything is falling apart. It's more fitting that this isn't just the sage/s' theme at the first half but also The Battle Cats' invasion theme in the second half of the music, where it sounds familiar but also sinister. Or it could be melancholic, envisioning that what The Battle Cats are doing is righteous but the reality of their action is more bleak.
Oh trust me, it is unless you have very specific means of trivializing the stage (Windy ultra form). It is practically uncheesable, see it as Super Hyppoh that you cant crowd control well, or basically 'mecha bun but good'
4m hp, 34k dps, 250 range with omni up to 430, 0.7 second attack frequency, 18 movement speed. I see it as an evolved ht boss, being able to pose a big threat just by himself
@@midtisel4222 Because it basically is near impossible, or straight up impossible no Uber no Octo right now. He will run straight through standard meatshields, rock and metal cannot perfectly do it either.
Bro.......how did they combine the main motif, rush motif and final boss motif into this track.... Like I'm starting to feel emotional over how long I've played this.....
I have a theory, if you look at Socrates' chest you can see some kind of swirly mark, balrog also has the same swirly mark on the chest and shisilan pasalan has those all over his hands, I think those marks will be important in the future
If i have a nickle for everytime there's a character who was made out from unsorted ground material who was literally owns a shattered faceless head except the jaws in mobile game. I have two nickles. Which isn't a lot but it's weird because it happened twice, right? Consider this, having Socrates being as the anthropomorphic personification of philosophy was obsurely brilliant. Plus being as the first boss of the ZL Chapter clearly serves as the lampshade about the existence of The Cat Army's questopnable philosophy and morality.
I have a feeling that ZL is literally just the world falling apart and a broken timeline after The Cats conquered the past in UL which may have caused a cannon event to not happen which broke the universe so now the stage backgrounds of ZL look like they do. That is just my theory
Genius thumbnail. Description sounds like it's gonna be really annoying to fight sage enemies depending on how resistant they are to debuffs. If it goes up to 70% like for cats, this could very easily spiral into a nightmare. How good is the new Legend unit from ZL? It seems interesting from the abilities...
@@SilumanTomcatReborn Attacks really fast tho, has 150 piercing range and a summon that deals additional damage, knockbacks and weakens enemies. Seems like a legend version of mushroom cat, but without the wave immune.
cli-one, the dead cli-one, sage of sorcates thonkang dude, and... blue dudes that are giants and destroy cats, just bigger than those AKU!!??!! guys but with black holes.
Oh damn I guess I was wrong. This theme is way better than the ZL boss theme. Well I guess we are out of early ZL I suppose and are on to early-mid ZL. I wonder if we are going to get more legends since we got him really early into ZL compared to dogu and ururun wolf.
When i first read he name of socrates, i imagined him to be like the almighty's, that he would have had a catified take or something I wasnt expecting him to literally be socrates😅 Also banger theme for the first zero legend boss unit
@@Eggslayerrr I hope they don't do that actually... The thing they did with ganglion really sucks. And they put him as 3 of those stages bosses bruh. At least put other dragon emperors or something.
@@Nestoby ZL is *NOT* a broken reality, but instead it is a new world that filibuster created as the cats were seeking out the sage. I guess this guy is one of them.
I wonder what’s the next zl boss It will either be in 14.1 or it could be one of those parts in a saga where you have to do a third of the saga to get to the next main boss like doron having abt 16 subchapters after urs
@@KsiezniczkaFindom4k DPS against traitless, against traited it's either 20 or 24k DPS which is BUSTED, especially considering the fact that it can snipe backliners
I haven’t seen a song this good from the battle cats for a while now In my opinion the only music better than this is the moon theme remix, (Mecca bun bun)
![Zero Legends Battle Theme #5 (13.5 Update) [The Battle Cats]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/yyCmrXx3qJ8/mqdefault.jpg)
Epic music aside, i just love that the phrase "Socrates boss fight" is now a phrase that makes sense within the context of this game.
Soractes
The insane part is, if this is the theme for sage enemies, what's the theme for the final boss of Zero Legends going to be like a year-ish from now?
@@LokiThePugsoractis apparently
@@Blahblahblah28504 my money is on either Thales or Nietzsche
@@Blahblahblah28504prolly The Face but sagified and higher stats
i like how people are more surprised about a philosopher being in the game than literal gods
Gods are in it because gacha games, but ive only seen crash fever (en version is killed lmfao) do something like bc, and even then they only share the names with actual philosophers in crash fever
Well, you know...The gods also didn't have their entire frontal face missing as well lol. Just saying...
You could say he really hit the spot
Fighting gods in video games are pretty commun, but philosophers ? I don't remember even fighting one with all the games I played.
And honestly now I want more of that.
I mean there is cat god
People seem to have a misconception about the imagery of Socrates. He’s a “pillar of our understanding of the universe” or rather part of the foundation of how we perceive it. The faceless nature of the enemy means they’re a representation of the concept itself and its expression.
We are all cats and always have been :3
Meow mrrp meow
So we're not just fighting the man, but the idea
THEY SAID YOU COULDN'T KILL THE IDEA, AND YET HERE WE ARE DOING EXACTLY THAT
it also references his phrase "i know that i know nothing" so he doesnt have a mind/brain 🔥
“Please try not to go to hard it’s just a silly cat game”
Unnamed Ponos Employee:
They really need to tell us the name of this legendary employee
@@artchanell4242FOR REAL. i tried emailing Ponos to try and learn who composed the OST (because the damn game has no credits!) but their reply was basically "mhm. the soundtrack sure was composed.". idk why they're so stingy about letting people know
PONOS employee number 402 strikes again
@@ohojeethesnootwhackerchina is a snagret now I am a tadpole the first time to cook a meal plan a trip to the voices of the game and
I think there's one thing we can all agree on, Ponos really can make some amazing themes
200th like and fr i guess as the game grew ponos officines and employes with the game too
ok, so... the "sage from another world" line was leading to... greek philosophers?
battle cats lore experts will never recover
When the lore is literal, but the game is manical
Soractis is one of the sages, not *the* sage itself.
i mean there are still more stages
and sage is a subtrait so there might be more
Someone’s headcanon was that the other sages would be Buddha and Jesus. It’d be real interesting if that’s real
0:42 & 0:51 to 1:15 the fact you can hear the rush theme motif makes this theme more epic than it should be
I forgot that some theme's have that already like "Invading japan" and "Slow Battle"
Technically the rush theme itself is just a remix of Invading Japan
0:17 to 0:41 also has the moon theme leitmotif
Of course it's bun bun that finds it epic..
Very little amount of people noticed this but 0:00 - 0:13 is "Jungle Theme"
I love motifs
Genuinely one of the most unsettling units, really sells how ZL is unhinged and a world basically falling apart.
Yeah something about this boss seems off, I get a weird feeling by looking at him
@@Samh166-6probably the hole on his face
or the weirdly drawn arm they have
@@Samh166-6looks like he is stuck to the chair
his face gone with a hollow head
and one of his arms being on the lower part of the body
They're just an elder statue
WE'RE LEARNING PHILOSOPHY WITH THIS ONE 🔥🔥🔥
I used 10% of my brain power to solve this
Ya know when they first mentioned “sage” i really thought like, Generic Magic Person, not GODAMN SOCRATES
Imagine if one of the next sages will be Buddha, Jesus, or Confucius. I doubt they will go that far.
same here
@@arb1ter993jesus in battle cats real
@@crazedaxebutbetter5208 takes all your sins (debuffs and damage last taken) and heals and removes debuffs.
Then goes back to heaven.
"Throughout the Heavens and the Earth, I alone am the Honored One"
-Buddha
Another banger from Ponos, it just keeps getting better
My face when its a difficult exam
Also i really like the idea of ponos, instead of just using moon themes they just created a whole new theme ZL is very wild
I love how socrates is using its leg to thonkang.
feet enjoyer
0:40 I love how even after all of these years, this leitmotif continues to be included in these songs.
Is just a motif since it isn’t bound to anything specific
I can't believe they surpasssd Filibuster Obstructa, Big Bang and Revival of Origin with this insane theme
They could've just save this for the final boss tbh
Or they could make an even more epic version later on. I mean it is not like they dont have budget for music. And this game deserves any new music it can get with its size.
@@casualkris4806yk you could've just click to my reply right?
@@Ayjay_Puffball Just laziness
This new stage is pretty darn challenging, no cheap perma rock stalling for this one, and also 1200% Doge Darks as nasty peons.
When your best chance to win is the goddamn Mega Cat
@@SilumanTomcatRebornthey should bring mega cat back, best big unit
Windy ultra form:
@@SilumanTomcatRebornbruh really?????
Cyberpunk is still viable on that stage in spite of it. Actually it turns out to be one of the better units to bring, even if the slow is mostly to prevent Doge Darks from eating Octo cat.
I wonder how did we get from cat conquering the Earth to cats destroying and conquiering what's left of space and time?
Catfood .
And leadership .
@@Duong_thieu_nang French Can Can helped too.
@@zotethemighty8138and also a nerd ofc
0:17 I absolutely LOVE this brass section. Oh, if we’re going off of the trend of Philosophers as sage pillars, we could see Plato and Aristotle here too.
im glad that "resist debuff" is appearing outside of talents now. I really thought it was a missed opportunity.
I would say it has been implemented pretty darn well instead of making people guess which resist an enemy has.
it is absolutely wild to me that this started with a single cat fighting a single dog.
Very true. Same thing with geometry dash of how one cube jumps over one spike making geometry dash a whole new era.
did some of you forget that they also fought a floating head and a demon
That’s true, but stuff like The Face, Nyandam and Bun Bun weren’t higher-dimesional entities whose very presence makes the world around them collapse back into what can be charitably described as the universe’s most primal state.
@@seerthecat9832 mmm fair
It actually started with a lot of cats fighting relic bun bun
egg came first, we first unlock the egg and then we unlock the cat.
Well who gave birth to the egg centuries ago
@@Enter_a_name69the people who stored the units in eggs
@@Enter_a_name69the first egg that was made was cinnabar, which comes from Hidden Forest Of Gapra! So Casaurian Ahirujo is first!
@@fuertezombie666haniwa is fuming rn
gama duskit
this sounds like the kind of music that would play when something is number 1 on xskull's rankings
also 0:41 - 0:53 is easily my favourite part
Lol true
Zl boss theme surpasses filibuster's theme confirmed?
@Ayjay_Puffball which side are you on?
Zl boss ost Filibuster ost
@@Egg1cyber01 zl boss ost is better imo
the sage trait is nice because it has been mentioned at the end of UL and it finally got added, but its 80% immunity to any debuff effect's duration (and KB distance) makes it hard to stall if you rely on debuffers lol
tankers and dmg dealers are the best options tbh
I can’t believe PONOS did a collab with ULTRAKILL just after they released layer 7! The new boss is basically a prime soul.
ikr!!
JUDGEMENT.
THY END IS NOW!
CRUSH!
This music sounds very heroic, which is funny because the cats are the reason the universes are breaking apart. (Insert game theory music) maybe its because these sages are the key to saving the multiverse from collapsing.
Yeah. We are responsible for the worlds falling apart.
This is just a thought of mine. The music feels very urgent and as stated, everything is falling apart.
It's more fitting that this isn't just the sage/s' theme at the first half but also The Battle Cats' invasion theme in the second half of the music, where it sounds familiar but also sinister.
Or it could be melancholic, envisioning that what The Battle Cats are doing is righteous but the reality of their action is more bleak.
and to belive its all because a single cat and his 7 friends decided to conquer korea...
Holy shit they went all out on this banger theme, really hope the stage is as threatening as the music
Oh trust me, it is unless you have very specific means of trivializing the stage (Windy ultra form).
It is practically uncheesable, see it as Super Hyppoh that you cant crowd control well, or basically 'mecha bun but good'
@@casualkris4806 that sounds both exciting and like a pain in the ass XD
@@casualkris4806octopus kinda makes this stage 50 times easier
4m hp, 34k dps, 250 range with omni up to 430, 0.7 second attack frequency, 18 movement speed.
I see it as an evolved ht boss, being able to pose a big threat just by himself
@@midtisel4222 Because it basically is near impossible, or straight up impossible no Uber no Octo right now. He will run straight through standard meatshields, rock and metal cannot perfectly do it either.
waited for this clean, beautiful loop
Bro.......how did they combine the main motif, rush motif and final boss motif into this track.... Like I'm starting to feel emotional over how long I've played this.....
WE'RE ALTERING REALITY WITH THIS ONE 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I have a theory, if you look at Socrates' chest you can see some kind of swirly mark, balrog also has the same swirly mark on the chest and shisilan pasalan has those all over his hands, I think those marks will be important in the future
Or they just look really good who knows
If Balrog is the Hulk, then Solactis (Socrates) is the Maestro
Shisilan Pasalan enemy editon real????
No, just fancy nipple
In Manic cats too
Shame there was no end to UL4* this update but this absolute banger easily makes up for it
New subtrait: Philosopher
Sage philosopher🤓
Sagephilosopher🤓
The thought of the Legends (In Zero Legends) having there own themes is awesome, hope each one has a different song
very unlikely imo but who knows
If i have a nickle for everytime there's a character who was made out from unsorted ground material who was literally owns a shattered faceless head except the jaws in mobile game. I have two nickles. Which isn't a lot but it's weird because it happened twice, right?
Consider this, having Socrates being as the anthropomorphic personification of philosophy was obsurely brilliant. Plus being as the first boss of the ZL Chapter clearly serves as the lampshade about the existence of The Cat Army's questopnable philosophy and morality.
what was the other one?
@@LordOfPowercreepI second this
@@LordOfPowercreep Rare Monculus from My Singing Monsters
@@stalloneandrew9961 oh thats cool
@@midtisel4222 rare monculus
I have a feeling that ZL is literally just the world falling apart and a broken timeline after The Cats conquered the past in UL which may have caused a cannon event to not happen which broke the universe so now the stage backgrounds of ZL look like they do. That is just my theory
I think that the energy of everything hiding in Zero Luza has been released and came to SOL and big bang 3 and corrupted them
Bro i can't believe they added the thinker to battle cats🔥🔥
Holy shit Ponor is getting better and better with these ZL tracks I swear.
I love that there's church bells sometimes, it gives it kind of a DMDokuro vibe lmao
Genius thumbnail. Description sounds like it's gonna be really annoying to fight sage enemies depending on how resistant they are to debuffs. If it goes up to 70% like for cats, this could very easily spiral into a nightmare.
How good is the new Legend unit from ZL? It seems interesting from the abilities...
looks pretty bad. 30% freeze vs angel but very low range
@@SilumanTomcatReborn hi,can wave and surge count as debuff for the sage enemies,means my dasli surge will only deal like 30 percent to sage enemies?
i'm not sure about that. we only know it affects the debuff
@@SilumanTomcatReborn Attacks really fast tho, has 150 piercing range and a summon that deals additional damage, knockbacks and weakens enemies. Seems like a legend version of mushroom cat, but without the wave immune.
I was expecting that he will be our primary counter for W-Piggie or Slephnir. But low range happened
GOD DAM! And only like 1% of players reach this too.
We are only lazy 😂
Probably like 0.01% or smth
1000/10 Temazo! Ponos si que sabe hacer grandes canciones!
is it just me or does it he look more like his arm is just gone while his hand is stuck to his face and the “leg” is actually cloth
Makes me feel like we're about to fight kratos or something. It's so epic
1:04 this part kind of sounds like the first ZL boss theme
You mean the first ever battle theme?
@@Ayjay_Puffballi hear the first battle theme more at 0:40
W theme
W looking enemies
W summon skill because there's more interactive other than spamming unit and wait its cooldown
This theme really gives Monster Hunter vibes
The entire behemoth subtrait is a monster hunter reference
First battle theme music + Underground Labyrinth battle theme + epic boss theme + cats = the first boss theme in the zero leyends / goat 🥶🥶🥶
Épico como siempre Phonos, me encantan las campanas de fondo.
If I had a nickel for everytime I see a boss with a hole in their face, I'd have two nickels
JUDGEMENT.
cli-one
It's kinda 4, because I'm sure you've seen clione's variants.
cli-one, the dead cli-one, sage of sorcates thonkang dude, and... blue dudes that are giants and destroy cats, just bigger than those AKU!!??!! guys but with black holes.
I don’t care if they give them sage slayer. I am not level 60ing my crowd control Ubers 💀
Can’t wait for Plato and Aristotle to pull up too. We finna destroy Greece with this one 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥
Diogenes when
Hera when
Jesus when
Greece gonna spam that sir seal
@@Leg1on-nthis would be controversial tho
Oh damn I guess I was wrong. This theme is way better than the ZL boss theme. Well I guess we are out of early ZL I suppose and are on to early-mid ZL. I wonder if we are going to get more legends since we got him really early into ZL compared to dogu and ururun wolf.
WERE BREAKING INTO PLATO'S CLASSROOM WITH THIS ONE🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
wasn't that diogenes instead of socrates?
@@gxxthicflower yeah lol I just wanted to make a funny comment
@@Sloppnheimer fair enough
I wish Socrates had a better stage design considering how good the music is
Fun Fact about this music:
0:17 - 0:39 - Moon Theme
0:40 - 1:15 - Battle Theme 1
Few people noticed this:
0:00 - 0:15 - Jungle Theme/Battle Theme 4
When i first read he name of socrates, i imagined him to be like the almighty's, that he would have had a catified take or something
I wasnt expecting him to literally be socrates😅
Also banger theme for the first zero legend boss unit
Why Socrates in Almighty? He isn't a God xD
@@JorgeCrack5000but he is a great part in history just like the almighty in greek mythology so makes sense him to be kinda be almightyish
@@Enter_a_name69._. Even though like half the gods in that set are from other religions
Dude, the way that it's actually just a dramatic remix of the main battle theme at the end is so cool!
I wonder what other real world figures would inspire later zero legends units?
Sage of Math Pythagoras
Sage of power Adolf 100% toxic attacks
@@unfamousinfamous that'll probably be a thing that gets added lol
@@unfamousinfamousman i fucking hated that dude as a child
@@unfamousinfamous WE LEARNING A²+B²=C² WITH THIS ONE🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Wait until we need to fight this dude in full, to acquire his TF.
Was I the only one who noticed the moon and battle theme one motifs in this theme
I'm the only one person/thing/critter/creature/cat(probably)/amogus(definitely)/amongus(maybe)/etc(definitely) who noticed "Jungle Theme" in here
0:00 - 0:12 is time stamp, listen carefully
First part sounded like Evangelion so hard, ngl this music is neat!
1:04 goes so hard 🔥
Absolute banger theme, def one of if not the best Battle Cats theme
Woah this is unexpected for ZL
Such an eye-opening soundtrack
Hol up guys…
Let him thonk…
So, Dasli and Cyberstack is very bad in this level and the general trait right?
Pure unfiltered banger.
You could tell me this was a Kingdom Hearts battle theme for Xehanort and I'd believe you without fact checking.
Turns out, it's from a game about cats that fight various animals.
Game is evolving only in post end ;)
The Sage enemy was planned since ending of UL apparently
Are you a Ponos employee
Ponos is popping off with the design what the hell
Cats went to Zero World in search of a Sage. If Socrates isn't the one, then who can be THE Sage?
Jake from accounting
Jesus
so this dude is supposed to be the First...FIRST zl major Boss?
the fuck are the other zl major bosses supossed to look like then
I won’t be suprised if we have to fight some kind of evil form of gaia (the legend rare in the god set)
@@Eggslayerrr I hope they don't do that actually... The thing they did with ganglion really sucks. And they put him as 3 of those stages bosses bruh. At least put other dragon emperors or something.
Holy shit a theme that actually doesn't last only 2 minutes????
Wasn't Filibuster's theme like the last case of this?
Filibuster theme is only 45 seconds
@@sparchamp2 Except it isn't?
It's literally 2:17 lmao
this theme actually last for around 1 minute 17 seconds
still a banger theme lol
@@A-Relic dang.
@@nectarinnain game the song loops after 45 seconds
How exactly would this dude think because you can very clearly see the insides of his head and it’s completely empty
His foot-hand does the thinking
Oh yeah, that makes sense
WHY THIS IS SO EPIC AAA
0:40 onwards really sounds like army dillo from dk64
🔥🔥🔥Beating legend stages with this 🔥🔥🔥
hmmm very debatable question
"Thy end is now" looking ahh boss
Ponos never disappoints
This theme is on par with filibuster's theme but i like the filibuster's theme a bit more
You could say he *really hit the spot*
oh my god there is rush motifs in it
Now we need a sage the face that has no face
Siluman what is your oppinion on the new summoning mechanic?
cool
Excuse me SUMMON are we a mod now? Geez ZL already felt like a fanmade mess lol
@@clapman866i mean zl is just broken reality so no wonder why some fanmade thing is now exist
@@Nestoby hey that makes sense actually.
@@Nestoby ZL is *NOT* a broken reality, but instead it is a new world that filibuster created as the cats were seeking out the sage. I guess this guy is one of them.
I wonder what’s the next zl boss
It will either be in 14.1 or it could be one of those parts in a saga where you have to do a third of the saga to get to the next main boss like doron having abt 16 subchapters after urs
Do it recieves less dame when unit have massive or strong abilities
No. Only debuff ability like Slow, Freeze, KB Attack, etc
@@SilumanTomcatReborn thank you
What do you thing about socrates and fest legend?
12k dps with insane dmg on traitless is scary
@@deathlygamingrealtraited*
@@deathlygamingreal is big number but naala patern so 4K dps real and no extra hp on meele unit in my opinion unit level like mitama or dark phonoa
@@KsiezniczkaFindom4k DPS against traitless, against traited it's either 20 or 24k DPS which is BUSTED, especially considering the fact that it can snipe backliners
@@midtisel4222Yes its true but still have big problem no surge protection
I wonder if the next sage will also have hole for a face. Anyway, banger theme for cat game.
I could see a recreation of the EoC chapter 1 moon fight with the face but missing a face
@@crazedaxebutbetter5208a dude literally named “the face” without a face will be absurd as shit
@@crazedaxebutbetter5208 now he just "The"
Seems like the next sage had a blacked out face. (Dr. Nova)
I love this so much
something something "JUDGEMENT"
I haven’t seen a song this good from the battle cats for a while now
In my opinion the only music better than this is the moon theme remix, (Mecca bun bun)
Is it a statue or a man? we may never know.
Maybe... *Both*
crazy how theres shit like this lumped in with rush
Good song and funny meme good job
_do we need more sub-traits, PONOS...?_
The good thing is that this subtrait actually does something and the slayer ability isn't super op so normal units can work better
Peter griffin sub-trait
Relic Jagando is perfect for this theme tbh
he do be thonking