I see a lot of people asking about the stealth potential with the Crossbow and it turns out, firing the crossbow will disable your Ghost perk, just like suppressors.
Not gonna lie, I was really hoping there would be a "Lightning Bolt" attachment that turns the bolts into mini shock-sticks. Definitely wouldn't be better than explosive/thermite bolts but would be fun to annoy people with just like gas bolts
Honestly, just make every grenade (lethal and tactical) an attachment bolt for the crossbow. It still won't be good, but it would be funny. Actually, flashbang bolts might be powerful
Still got a 1 shot in Invasion (on a player) at about 180 meters out when going for longshots with it. That was the furthest out I went for a kill and actually hit the person I was attempting to kill.
Crossbow was so fun in Warzone 1 when you could down somebody with the shot and then the explosion would finish them off while downed. Great for keeping pesky rooftop campers from getting revived.
@@hobojoe9717 Nope. It's a 2-shot down, unless you hit the head/neck with an explsoive bolt. It no longer full kills like in WZ1 as well. They nerfed our baby into the ground.
One thing I love about MW2019 and now MW2022 is how they treat the Crossbow like just another "gun" in the game instead of a special weapon. I think the only other CoD that did this was Blops 3 with that little crossbow pistol.
Easily a fun weapon to use! Just pure utter fun. If you wanna be competitive with it though I'd go with using it as a utility. Those bolts aren't detectable by Trophy Systems iirc and can potentially be used against players really using that utility. It can easily be used as a team-play tool to squish up enemies for your teammates to go in if there's an enemy trophy system active.
This is exactly what I used it for, I have a Ninja class where I use this to one shot the trophy system, and in headquarters I use gas bolts if the enemies have a habit of clustering up. It's a great alternative if you hate using the riot shield but still want to go melee only.
Fun fact: hitting someone in the thighs has a high chance of killing them in a few minutes due to the larg amountbof blood vessels in that area. (Sorry if my english is bad, it is my third language)
I love that thing! Somehow I´m way better with it than with the other marksman rifles even though I thought I´d struggle with it. Used it exactly the same way as your aggression build after unlocking all attachments to get it to gold and platinum yesterday. Seems you already left an impact on me. Really appreciate your guides
I absolutely loved the crossbow in MW2019 and Cold War. Sad to see it not return in Vanguard and now that it's in MW2, it's going to be so much fun to use again. Thanks for this video!
I recommend using the SZ SRO-7 optic, ignore the red dot and use the pointy black line. So far it’s worked pretty accurately at all effective ranges for me.
The explosive bolts are great against shielded players. You have a big target to hit. Even if it hits the shield behind their backs, is a one shot kill after it explodes. Strangely, it registers as a headshot, probably a bug.
This is my favorite part of the crossbow. Finally a reliable way to take out shield players without sacrificing yourself in S+D. So many times I stick them with a Semtex and they kill me with a throwing knife before it detonates. It can still happen with this but now it's far easier to hit the shield from farther away and it's easier to dodge the knife since I don't get stuck in the grenade animations. If the shield player tries the shotgun or rpg, good aim to the upper body and they'll die first in many cases
As a shielder can confirm it’s the best counter and it should be. No complaints with the weapon. But think it’s a little unfair that a trophy system doesn’t destroy the explosive or thermite tip. It should destroy it but let the regular bolt attached keep going
If you use the cable that increases accuracy but decreases velocity and tune it for max velocity (or use a bolt) the 6x acog with the 50m marker is perfect and accurately represents your bolt drop making it easy to use at long range
Good work Ace. The xbow can be both super frustrating and incredibly satisfying all in the same game. I love the challenge of putting myself in a position to one hit players.
It would be cool if there was an attachment that allowed you to take two types of bolts into a battle and switch between them at will. Might give the Tear Gas bolt more use.
I honestly love the Crossbow just because it's a semi effective way to goof around. Riot shielding and running around with a knife is just death city. Though you can get some funny moments with the shield. I've found myself laughing more than getting frustrated while using it. Only frustration I have is that there does seem to be a delay in firing that you didn't note here, as even in non lag situations. I've hit my trigger and my bolt doesn't fire before I'm hosed.
Got a few times when thermite bolts, don't kill the enemy even on direct hit, don't what it was conection problem or EOMM kicking in. Saved at least one footage.
With the thermite-tipped bolts, this is a very fun weapon for Ground War. As demonstrated nicely by Ace, they can do quite a bit of damage to certain streaks, but they're also quite effective against the APC, IFV and even the MBT. It seems to take around four thermite bolts to take out an APC (give or take, haven't tested it properly), which is very useful in GW for denying the enemy a mobile spawn, and you can obviously take people out opportunistically with it as well. Adding to this, it can take down the UAV and CUAV in one bolt if you aim it right, the reload speed and mobility are much better than launchers like the Carl Gustav and Verba, and the carriable ammo reserve is very good if you're using a munitions box or grabbing the ammo pick-ups around the map. I have a class set-up using Overkill so I can carry another weapon for mowing people down, Spotter to easily locate vehicles & streaks and to be able to hack equipment, and Ghost to stay off the enemy's UAV, and it's both versatile and a lot of fun!
In Ground War i've been using a build similar to the second one shown but I use an under barrel instead of stock n I use a SZ thermal scope to pick players in smoke since I run the 2 tactical perk with smoke grenades
Been using this alot have a great build for all ammo types. The tear gas is great area denial but it has the slowest velocity, the thermite is fastest of the ammo types. Works even if you miss. And it's nice to block people from pushing. And sticking almost always downs. Explosive is just how it's always been. 1 shot kill potential
I wonder if the momenti isn't actually helping with accuracy directly, so much as the spread increases over flight time, and by having more velocity it means at a given distance it has less time for the spread to grow.
I know -bolt accuracy is waaay worse without magnification and literally indistinguishable with mega magnification... So it's already jacked up, wouldn't surprise me if it was jacked up in other ways. It feels random too, like a bunch if good shots then 3 that'll just bust off to the side hard, then back to good shots
Hi buddy, I was one of the better bow users on 2019 WZ, over on 2.0 I’m hitting 100-120mtrs (and above) on the regular yet at that distance, even if I hit upper torso, I get the armour crunch and no down, this is on solos using blastcap bolts
In hardcore objective game modes, the explosive bolts work really well. Essentially a more accurate, higher ammo count, medium distance RPG that goes through trophy systems.
Hey Ace, I think you forgot to mention the one hit kill areas for thermite and explosive. Thermite kills instantly to the head only and explosive instantly kills to the chest and up only
I swore this was the case, but the target dummies align with what Ace said so I chalked it up to the -velocity and vowed to test it again tonight with a lot of +velocity.
Adding to this, one more addition: Quick Fix can outheal the damage from thermites, so if you trade with someone or they just happen to kill someone else you won't get a kill. They'll just run around on fire for a few seconds and then be fine. This is really funny, but also bad. I haven't had a chance to find out specifically but maybe stims and probably battle rage could also do this.
Does firing it cause you to show up on the compass (or mini-map with uav up)? Only asking because crossbows in most other CoDs weren't considered silent/suppressed as far as the game was concerned.
I love the Crossbow! It goes perfect with my ninja class and I use attachments that speed it up. Getting longshots for Platinum was kind of a pain because of the bolt drop, slight randomness, and having to lead moving targets at distance, but once that's done it's always fun to use and it's my new favorite primary weapon.
@@rayy7858 you can pick up another gun and drop your shield if you get stuck. Gotta move fast tho. I’ve only pulled it off on shipment so far. But it’s a perfect storm thing
Okay, here’s an idea: We need a Hawkeye/Green Arrow version. You know how you have the D-pad toggle between full and auto-fire? We ought to be able to toggle between different tips. Takes an extra moment to click through, but that makes the bow way more versatile.
Crossbow is super fun. Without an attachment to drastically speed up the reload time, it's stuck as a utility weapon, but I still enjoy it. It can fill some gaps. I most like it as an answer to riot shields without having to give up my proximity mines.
My favorite build with the crossbow is using the canted laser both because I don't get tunnel visioned by the sight and because the satisfaction of getting a canted laser crossbow kill is way beyond anything else in this game.
The gas tips are the only ones I like because of the reload if a second person pushing with the first it buys me so much time to get the second arrow of
I'm leveling the crossbow in MW3 (I didn't play MW2) right now, because there is a event mission that can be done with the crossbow and that weapon is lots of fun🙃
I would say the crossbow def. feels better in MW2 MP since u can tune the attachments and the gameplay is a bit slower so hitting shots will be much easier and less punishing
Agree with your conclusion, Ace. Fun, variety weapon. Cool for a change of pace or a challenge. I don’t play warzone, but I imagine there’s plenty of opportunities for some cool clips
me too , its a fun different weapon to use but , imo if you want to use a one shot weapon your probably just better using the spr or sab since the crossbow is just a slower version of an actual marksman rifle that takes ages to reload
Same. I was testing attachment and optic combos in the firing range, and found a nice bob-and-weave rhythm that translated well to the game. Few things are as fun as frustrating enemies with silent fury.
I have tested all these bold on the crossbow with my brother and the thermite and explosive bolt are good for kill people behind their riot shield. The best bolt between these two is the explosive bolt, because the thermite bolt do a lot of damage on the player behind his shield but not enough to kill him and letting him 1% of HP.
So I think I know what happened with the SO Momenti arms' accuracy. I'm still gathering data, but during my initial attachment testing, the SO Momenti arms did not affect accuracy at 50m and 95m, but gave me a 25%~ velocity increase at 50m. My shot grouping was almost identical compared to the default. Keep in mind, the crossbow RNG acts in a "cone" from where you fire. Perhaps the large velocity boost functionally "moved" the cone forward, so the bolt did not have enough time to fly astray at 25m, compared to the other attachments (the 28-strand significantly increases this cone shape). One more thing I would like to ask about is damage. How did you do you damage testing for the arms? I've done a lot of testing and I found that lower arm hits do not 1-hit down, and upper arm hits inconsistently 1-hit down. By any chance, did another limb or torso appear behind the limb you were testing? I found that if the arm is in front of the torso, you will get a torso hit and not a limb hit (damage calculation is drawn in a line for limbs, and it takes the higher of the two). Good job on the testing, glad to see you covered the crossbow. -The Crossbow Expert, RPSpartan
Since you've shown you can do the work, please look into bolt accuracy with different magnification. I can't stack enough -bolt accuracy to miss a headshot on the far dummy with an 11x optic... But it'll easily miss the entire dummy by a mile with a red dot. Maybe if enough of us bring it up people will become aware of it: if you want tight groups at distance with the crossbow, you need magnification
@@DWalter.27 lol yes, Im covering that later today in a guide. I discovered it by accident. I actually found your comment down below and was happy someone else found out too 🎯❤️
Well after getting Orion for the crossbow a couple days ago, I can say I found the Momenti stacked with the 28-strand (so tuned towards bullet velocity and aiming stability) tends to be really consistent with getting kills at range. I also use the commando foregrip, a red dot and a rear grip (all tuned to ads/sprint out). I haven't had any issues with hitting moving targets at range, as long as you lead 1m or so ahead of targets at 30/40m
Well this explains why it felt like people were getting ridiculously easy kills on me with the crossbow. All you gotta do is point it the general direction of the chest and you've got yourself a kill even out to ranges where you'd think there'd be some drop off
I'd love if they made the Crossbow into a utility weapon like Capitao's from Military Overwatch (Rainbow Six Seige). Like running Overkill and having it as a Secondary with Flashbang, Incendiary, Smoke, or Tear Gas arrows for utility. It already has the Thermite so it's possible.
I absolutely LOVE the crossbow. I’m half way to unlocking the last calling card and dig the death come the most. This isn’t gonna get stale for a while for me…
Maybe it just doesn’t fit the way I play but after working hard to unlock the crossbow it feels a bit underwhelming. Even with fast hands it takes just a little too long to reload and has cost me gun fights cuz once you’re in the reload animation at a certain point it won’t let you throw your lethal
Fun fact: the Crossbow is compatible with the Anti-Armor field upgrade. Paired with the Brightblaze bolts, it takes as few as 4 shots to kill a Wheelson.
Question: which bolts do other players see? For example, from the side? I have a feeling that standard bolt is invisible but thermite bolt other players can see.
Imagine a marker bolt in wz where if you land the shot (very bad velocity/drop) no damage is done but the enemy is notified and they can either leave it in while being pinged on the minimap every 5 seconds or take 5 seconds to rip it out. something different.
In DMZ, those brightblaze bolts are devastating. I took out a commander helo last night with a crossbow. Some guys decided to try to ambush our truck while on a 4 wheeler so I shot a single bolt and hit them. Dropped 4 people that were piled onto that thing. Any time a vehicle wants to mess with us, thermite bolts. They are really effective, but unfortunately hitting a bot with a thermite round is not very stealthy. Also use the bipod grip for stealth kills. Steadies it a lot so you can neglect aiming stability.
In a match of snd I had to hit a riot shield 3 times with the thermite tips at range..when he was closer it was a 1 hit..thought that was interesting. The explosive tips always a 1 shot but it kills the riot shielder a second before the bolt explodes.
Dont forget! Using the explosive arrows on a riot shield are a guaranteed 1 hit kill even with bomb squad! I use this as a secondary with fast hands if I ever have a riot shield on the enemy team!
Bomb squad is busted and has been for months. Doesn't even block the bouncing betty (despite what Ace's private match testing shows). So wouldn't surprise me it also doesn't block these
I have been trying to level this up, it has been fun to use. Did you test it against the riot shield? Was wondering about the thermite bolt and explosive damage against riot shield.
I've killed riot shield users with the termite bolt. Either it takes 2 shots or they burn so slowly that you have time to shoot them twice, but it definitely works. I imagine the explosive works as well, but I haven't tested it.
Really wish this gun guide was out the day the crossbow came out. It was fun to use till I started doing longshots... ngl I kinda got triggered going for longshots with it. I didn't know if I wanted velocity or accuracy
I wish they'd put this back into the secondary section like in the Black Ops games. It's difficult to justify using this weapon next to the other self-loading and bolt-action DMRs.
I really wish ACE would cover more facts and statistics relating to warzone and dmz instead of mostly multiplayer. His info is so useful that it would be so beneficial as a warzone player.
Ace the bolt accuracy is inexplicably tied to optic zoom! Like ridiculously so! I tested it last night in the firing range at the far target, and we're talking consistent headshots with an 11x vs hitting 10' to the side with a red dot depending on the -bolt accuracy (and no it's not stability or imprecision with the dot, it's WAY worse than that, test it)
Well, yes and no. I'm releasing a video on this. It's that accuracy bonuses/penalties are applied to Optics of "Very Small Scope Glint" of lower, and Optics of "Small Scope Glint" or higher (usually scopes) experience 100% accuracy. No bonuses or Penalties are applied. It's weird, I know. I found it out by accident during my testing lol
@@RPSpartan117 you're awesome! Subbed so I can see the video when it drops Idk what glint it has, but the ACOG with RMR on top and green chevron + elevation dots was definetly inaccurate for me. As was the Eotech + thermal magnifier (sorry, idk what their fake in game names are)
They should just add a ballistic knife to this game and make it like bo4 where you actually get attachments for it. It would be so much fun to use and it’s something different in an otherwise bland game.
Not meta but I loved getting Orion using it, I also now have a way to take out Vtols and shield users on Shipment without sacrificing my molotovs or nades
I am so glad this exists to get rid of those shield people. Not only that, but if you equip dragon’s breath ammo on the KV shotgun, it works nicely against shields, just an FYI
I tried the one shot range out to 135m and it's still the same as long as you can hit them Also thermite bolt used to bounce off riot shields before it actually came out and while they did fix that to an extent, if you stick a bomb squad player's shield they will survive I fucking love crossbows :)
@TheXclusiveAce Can you give class loudouts for Different rods to still get 1 one shot kills? Or does the only 9%- bullet velocity not affect it as much? I would have wanted to see an explosive bolt build.
The explosive bolts make it so arm shots aren’t lethal on initial impact, much like leg shots. :( I’d be interested to know what exactly the lethal range of the explosion of the bolt is if you shoot a surface near a player.
Still got a 1 shot in Invasion (on a player) at about 180 meters out when going for longshots with it. That was the furthest out I went for a kill and actually hit the person I was attempting to kill.
What I’ve found is on Shipment, if I miss a shot near an opponent, just start hitting the melee button instead of reloading. The Crossbow is a fantastic melee weapon.
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I see a lot of people asking about the stealth potential with the Crossbow and it turns out, firing the crossbow will disable your Ghost perk, just like suppressors.
It also gives red skulls, so enemy players will see their team deaths.
Which is totally illogic
Honestly idc about the crossbow it was already annoying in MW2 and warzone 1.
@@mikeyplayzwrld, how is that relevant to this thread? Just get good and stop complaining
@@tommo5884 Go back to Reddit. I'm sure you and your obese friends will love sharing your edgy takes with each other.
Not gonna lie, I was really hoping there would be a "Lightning Bolt" attachment that turns the bolts into mini shock-sticks. Definitely wouldn't be better than explosive/thermite bolts but would be fun to annoy people with just like gas bolts
dude i dont know that sounds like it would clap
And you could shut down vehicles with it
Honestly, just make every grenade (lethal and tactical) an attachment bolt for the crossbow. It still won't be good, but it would be funny. Actually, flashbang bolts might be powerful
@@ApocagenOh god, don't give them any ideas
Still got a 1 shot in Invasion (on a player) at about 180 meters out when going for longshots with it. That was the furthest out I went for a kill and actually hit the person I was attempting to kill.
The best thing about the crossbow is my sbmm dropped me to a point where the game is sooo much funner to play. I may never go back to guns now.
If you're struggling with headshots for poly atomic, use the explosive bolt, dying by the explosion counts as a headzhot
Wait for real? :D
Big if true
@@MrToast01yup, until they patch it
-oR jUsT bE gOoD aT tHe GaMe.-
In all seriousness definitely the easier option but the headshots weren't too hard to go for.
Polyatomic already? I haven't even unlocked the crossbow or the ISO Hemlock yet.
Crossbow was so fun in Warzone 1 when you could down somebody with the shot and then the explosion would finish them off while downed. Great for keeping pesky rooftop campers from getting revived.
Sadly, it no longer 1-shot downs unless you hit the head, in WZ2.
@@RPSpartan117 Not sadly. It's great.
@@mikeyplayzwrld the bullet velocity, reload time, bullet drop - it's all so bad. Why shouldn't it have this upside? It will never be meta.
@@RPSpartan117 Will it not down someone even with the explosion?
@@hobojoe9717 Nope. It's a 2-shot down, unless you hit the head/neck with an explsoive bolt.
It no longer full kills like in WZ1 as well.
They nerfed our baby into the ground.
One thing I love about MW2019 and now MW2022 is how they treat the Crossbow like just another "gun" in the game instead of a special weapon. I think the only other CoD that did this was Blops 3 with that little crossbow pistol.
Easily a fun weapon to use! Just pure utter fun. If you wanna be competitive with it though I'd go with using it as a utility. Those bolts aren't detectable by Trophy Systems iirc and can potentially be used against players really using that utility. It can easily be used as a team-play tool to squish up enemies for your teammates to go in if there's an enemy trophy system active.
This is exactly what I used it for, I have a Ninja class where I use this to one shot the trophy system, and in headquarters I use gas bolts if the enemies have a habit of clustering up. It's a great alternative if you hate using the riot shield but still want to go melee only.
Call of Duty logic # 543: Shooting someone in the knee cap with an arrow does not kill them, but shooting them with an arrow in the hand does
“I used to be an adventurer like you, then I took an arrow in the knee.”
I used to be a camper like you.
He actually wore a knee cap protection 🤓
@@MrChadsimoneaux until I took an arrow in the knee. Nothing changed
Fun fact: hitting someone in the thighs has a high chance of killing them in a few minutes due to the larg amountbof blood vessels in that area. (Sorry if my english is bad, it is my third language)
I love that thing! Somehow I´m way better with it than with the other marksman rifles even though I thought I´d struggle with it. Used it exactly the same way as your aggression build after unlocking all attachments to get it to gold and platinum yesterday. Seems you already left an impact on me. Really appreciate your guides
I absolutely loved the crossbow in MW2019 and Cold War. Sad to see it not return in Vanguard and now that it's in MW2, it's going to be so much fun to use again. Thanks for this video!
I recommend using the SZ SRO-7 optic, ignore the red dot and use the pointy black line.
So far it’s worked pretty accurately at all effective ranges for me.
I like the quotation marks in the title
Once you learn the drop off, using the XT ANGEL40 holo sight is insanely helpful. It's a 1x but still has a range finder built in.
The explosive bolts are great against shielded players. You have a big target to hit. Even if it hits the shield behind their backs, is a one shot kill after it explodes. Strangely, it registers as a headshot, probably a bug.
This is my favorite part of the crossbow. Finally a reliable way to take out shield players without sacrificing yourself in S+D. So many times I stick them with a Semtex and they kill me with a throwing knife before it detonates. It can still happen with this but now it's far easier to hit the shield from farther away and it's easier to dodge the knife since I don't get stuck in the grenade animations.
If the shield player tries the shotgun or rpg, good aim to the upper body and they'll die first in many cases
As a shielder can confirm it’s the best counter and it should be. No complaints with the weapon. But think it’s a little unfair that a trophy system doesn’t destroy the explosive or thermite tip. It should destroy it but let the regular bolt attached keep going
Yes! Thank you for doing a crossbow gun guide this year I love this weapon!
If you use the cable that increases accuracy but decreases velocity and tune it for max velocity (or use a bolt) the 6x acog with the 50m marker is perfect and accurately represents your bolt drop making it easy to use at long range
I love the quotes around gun in gun guide XD
Good work Ace. The xbow can be both super frustrating and incredibly satisfying all in the same game. I love the challenge of putting myself in a position to one hit players.
It would be cool if there was an attachment that allowed you to take two types of bolts into a battle and switch between them at will. Might give the Tear Gas bolt more use.
I honestly love the Crossbow just because it's a semi effective way to goof around. Riot shielding and running around with a knife is just death city. Though you can get some funny moments with the shield. I've found myself laughing more than getting frustrated while using it. Only frustration I have is that there does seem to be a delay in firing that you didn't note here, as even in non lag situations. I've hit my trigger and my bolt doesn't fire before I'm hosed.
I still think the shield is op but I like the crossbow now I just hope they add throwing axe or tomahawk.
Got a few times when thermite bolts, don't kill the enemy even on direct hit, don't what it was conection problem or EOMM kicking in. Saved at least one footage.
With the thermite-tipped bolts, this is a very fun weapon for Ground War. As demonstrated nicely by Ace, they can do quite a bit of damage to certain streaks, but they're also quite effective against the APC, IFV and even the MBT.
It seems to take around four thermite bolts to take out an APC (give or take, haven't tested it properly), which is very useful in GW for denying the enemy a mobile spawn, and you can obviously take people out opportunistically with it as well. Adding to this, it can take down the UAV and CUAV in one bolt if you aim it right, the reload speed and mobility are much better than launchers like the Carl Gustav and Verba, and the carriable ammo reserve is very good if you're using a munitions box or grabbing the ammo pick-ups around the map.
I have a class set-up using Overkill so I can carry another weapon for mowing people down, Spotter to easily locate vehicles & streaks and to be able to hack equipment, and Ghost to stay off the enemy's UAV, and it's both versatile and a lot of fun!
In Ground War i've been using a build similar to the second one shown but I use an under barrel instead of stock n I use a SZ thermal scope to pick players in smoke since I run the 2 tactical perk with smoke grenades
A fellow two tactical smoker ✌️
@@InvntdXNEWROMANthis is the way
I'm glad you were able to make a gun guide for this crossbow! I wanted one for the original MWII and this is almost the exact same gun
I loved the crossbow in MW2019 and I love it in MWII as well. It’s just plain fun to use.
Been using this alot have a great build for all ammo types. The tear gas is great area denial but it has the slowest velocity, the thermite is fastest of the ammo types. Works even if you miss. And it's nice to block people from pushing. And sticking almost always downs. Explosive is just how it's always been. 1 shot kill potential
I like how you have it as "Gun" Guide in the title. Nice detail!
I remember Ace did a gun guild for the crossbow in mw19 🔥 and that's how I found this channel haha ⏰ flies
Pro tip on getting the prone camo challenge
Use thermite bolts and go prone as soon as you hit someone with the bolt
I wonder if the momenti isn't actually helping with accuracy directly, so much as the spread increases over flight time, and by having more velocity it means at a given distance it has less time for the spread to grow.
I know -bolt accuracy is waaay worse without magnification and literally indistinguishable with mega magnification... So it's already jacked up, wouldn't surprise me if it was jacked up in other ways. It feels random too, like a bunch if good shots then 3 that'll just bust off to the side hard, then back to good shots
Hi buddy, I was one of the better bow users on 2019 WZ, over on 2.0 I’m hitting 100-120mtrs (and above) on the regular yet at that distance, even if I hit upper torso, I get the armour crunch and no down, this is on solos using blastcap bolts
In hardcore objective game modes, the explosive bolts work really well. Essentially a more accurate, higher ammo count, medium distance RPG that goes through trophy systems.
Woohoo thank you Ace!! I’m glad to see an Xbow gun guide!
I have had a blast running around with the crossbow. Its fun AF.
FYI tuning a bolt for +velocity feels like it cancels out the negative bolt velocity it has. Your bolt accuracy will suffer more though
Hey Ace, I think you forgot to mention the one hit kill areas for thermite and explosive. Thermite kills instantly to the head only and explosive instantly kills to the chest and up only
People get pissed with the thermite bolt 😂
I swore this was the case, but the target dummies align with what Ace said so I chalked it up to the -velocity and vowed to test it again tonight with a lot of +velocity.
I'm seeing the same thing. They always get the one shot kill, but it's delayed. The instant kill matches up with what you're saying.
Adding to this, one more addition: Quick Fix can outheal the damage from thermites, so if you trade with someone or they just happen to kill someone else you won't get a kill. They'll just run around on fire for a few seconds and then be fine. This is really funny, but also bad.
I haven't had a chance to find out specifically but maybe stims and probably battle rage could also do this.
Is the crossbow silent / stealthy or do you still show up on the mini map when firing?
Does firing it cause you to show up on the compass (or mini-map with uav up)? Only asking because crossbows in most other CoDs weren't considered silent/suppressed as far as the game was concerned.
My question, too. Maybe Ace could post a pinned comment or something about this
I love the Crossbow! It goes perfect with my ninja class and I use attachments that speed it up. Getting longshots for Platinum was kind of a pain because of the bolt drop, slight randomness, and having to lead moving targets at distance, but once that's done it's always fun to use and it's my new favorite primary weapon.
I like how slot for foregrips is still called underbarrel
It's under the barrel don't like it go play tarkov
@@CPLAYZGAMEZ where the hell is this salt coming from? Guy was just making a funny observation. Chill out dude.
@@spudmaster1793 No u
the crossbow has always been the "fun" weapon of cod, glad to see that hasn't changed
The fun weapon of cod to me is the riot shield and this crossbow makes it a lot less fun. This addition is minus fun to me.
@@rayy7858 you can pick up another gun and drop your shield if you get stuck. Gotta move fast tho. I’ve only pulled it off on shipment so far. But it’s a perfect storm thing
Okay, here’s an idea:
We need a Hawkeye/Green Arrow version.
You know how you have the D-pad toggle between full and auto-fire? We ought to be able to toggle between different tips. Takes an extra moment to click through, but that makes the bow way more versatile.
That would be awesome, wow
Crossbow is super fun. Without an attachment to drastically speed up the reload time, it's stuck as a utility weapon, but I still enjoy it. It can fill some gaps. I most like it as an answer to riot shields without having to give up my proximity mines.
Does it show you on the uav when firing? You should test this with and without ghost on
My favorite build with the crossbow is using the canted laser both because I don't get tunnel visioned by the sight and because the satisfaction of getting a canted laser crossbow kill is way beyond anything else in this game.
The gas tips are the only ones I like because of the reload if a second person pushing with the first it buys me so much time to get the second arrow of
I'm leveling the crossbow in MW3 (I didn't play MW2) right now, because there is a event mission that can be done with the crossbow and that weapon is lots of fun🙃
Hi Ace,
Is there a difference in performance between the knife and the swords?
Does the bolts affect the mini map signature?
Love the crossbow, changes how you play and i don't mind dying if i get some good shots off
I would say the crossbow def. feels better in MW2 MP since u can tune the attachments and the gameplay is a bit slower so hitting shots will be much easier and less punishing
Agree with your conclusion, Ace. Fun, variety weapon. Cool for a change of pace or a challenge.
I don’t play warzone, but I imagine there’s plenty of opportunities for some cool clips
me too , its a fun different weapon to use but , imo if you want to use a one shot weapon your probably just better using the spr or sab since the crossbow is just a slower version of an actual marksman rifle that takes ages to reload
I had fun leveling this gun up; taught me how to use cover more effectively when i miss in a fight :-\
Same. I was testing attachment and optic combos in the firing range, and found a nice bob-and-weave rhythm that translated well to the game. Few things are as fun as frustrating enemies with silent fury.
I have tested all these bold on the crossbow with my brother and the thermite and explosive bolt are good for kill people behind their riot shield. The best bolt between these two is the explosive bolt, because the thermite bolt do a lot of damage on the player behind his shield but not enough to kill him and letting him 1% of HP.
So I think I know what happened with the SO Momenti arms' accuracy. I'm still gathering data, but during my initial attachment testing, the SO Momenti arms did not affect accuracy at 50m and 95m, but gave me a 25%~ velocity increase at 50m. My shot grouping was almost identical compared to the default. Keep in mind, the crossbow RNG acts in a "cone" from where you fire. Perhaps the large velocity boost functionally "moved" the cone forward, so the bolt did not have enough time to fly astray at 25m, compared to the other attachments (the 28-strand significantly increases this cone shape).
One more thing I would like to ask about is damage. How did you do you damage testing for the arms? I've done a lot of testing and I found that lower arm hits do not 1-hit down, and upper arm hits inconsistently 1-hit down. By any chance, did another limb or torso appear behind the limb you were testing? I found that if the arm is in front of the torso, you will get a torso hit and not a limb hit (damage calculation is drawn in a line for limbs, and it takes the higher of the two).
Good job on the testing, glad to see you covered the crossbow.
-The Crossbow Expert, RPSpartan
Since you've shown you can do the work, please look into bolt accuracy with different magnification. I can't stack enough -bolt accuracy to miss a headshot on the far dummy with an 11x optic... But it'll easily miss the entire dummy by a mile with a red dot. Maybe if enough of us bring it up people will become aware of it: if you want tight groups at distance with the crossbow, you need magnification
@@DWalter.27 lol yes, Im covering that later today in a guide. I discovered it by accident. I actually found your comment down below and was happy someone else found out too 🎯❤️
Well after getting Orion for the crossbow a couple days ago, I can say I found the Momenti stacked with the 28-strand (so tuned towards bullet velocity and aiming stability) tends to be really consistent with getting kills at range. I also use the commando foregrip, a red dot and a rear grip (all tuned to ads/sprint out).
I haven't had any issues with hitting moving targets at range, as long as you lead 1m or so ahead of targets at 30/40m
Well this explains why it felt like people were getting ridiculously easy kills on me with the crossbow. All you gotta do is point it the general direction of the chest and you've got yourself a kill even out to ranges where you'd think there'd be some drop off
I'd love if they made the Crossbow into a utility weapon like Capitao's from Military Overwatch (Rainbow Six Seige).
Like running Overkill and having it as a Secondary with Flashbang, Incendiary, Smoke, or Tear Gas arrows for utility. It already has the Thermite so it's possible.
I love the crossbow! Grinded to gold in one day! ❤ thanks for the great video!
I enjoy it, not much of a marksman rifle guy but I'll pick this up and use it
I absolutely LOVE the crossbow. I’m half way to unlocking the last calling card and dig the death come the most. This isn’t gonna get stale for a while for me…
I have had multiple arm shots that weren't a one shot either so this may vary somewhat
Maybe it just doesn’t fit the way I play but after working hard to unlock the crossbow it feels a bit underwhelming. Even with fast hands it takes just a little too long to reload and has cost me gun fights cuz once you’re in the reload animation at a certain point it won’t let you throw your lethal
I’ve melee killed more people with it after missing than anything else
Fun fact: the Crossbow is compatible with the Anti-Armor field upgrade. Paired with the Brightblaze bolts, it takes as few as 4 shots to kill a Wheelson.
Orion Crossbow looks so cool ngl!😍
Question: which bolts do other players see? For example, from the side? I have a feeling that standard bolt is invisible but thermite bolt other players can see.
Reckon the gas tips will be good for completing the double kill camo challenge?
Imagine a marker bolt in wz where if you land the shot (very bad velocity/drop) no damage is done but the enemy is notified and they can either leave it in while being pinged on the minimap every 5 seconds or take 5 seconds to rip it out. something different.
I second this
If it worked like how the scanner grenade does then that could be pretty useful I like that idea
If you’re gonna use a slow weapon and take the time to line it up, you might as well kill them. No use for marker bolt
I got this gold the day I got it after the challenge unlock. Was so much fun! I put the caustic bolts on to troll for a while too
@TheXclusiveAce I can confirm, I got a one-shot in DMZ over 175 meters
Against an enemy player or AI?
@@jonathanwilson1539 player, prob gonna put it in the intro of my next vid
In DMZ, those brightblaze bolts are devastating. I took out a commander helo last night with a crossbow. Some guys decided to try to ambush our truck while on a 4 wheeler so I shot a single bolt and hit them. Dropped 4 people that were piled onto that thing. Any time a vehicle wants to mess with us, thermite bolts. They are really effective, but unfortunately hitting a bot with a thermite round is not very stealthy. Also use the bipod grip for stealth kills. Steadies it a lot so you can neglect aiming stability.
In a match of snd I had to hit a riot shield 3 times with the thermite tips at range..when he was closer it was a 1 hit..thought that was interesting. The explosive tips always a 1 shot but it kills the riot shielder a second before the bolt explodes.
No matter how niche the weapon is, it's fun as hell to use and a great weapon to use when styling on people
This was extremely painful to grind until I used fast hands and the explosive bolts. Very useful for dealing with trophy campers on shipment
Does it one shot a riot shielder like it did in mw19? This was my favorite anti riot shield class in mw19
Do the regular bolts function as suppressed weapon fire, and do they still disable ghost?
First like and view buddy! Keep up the amazing work 🙌🏼
Dont forget! Using the explosive arrows on a riot shield are a guaranteed 1 hit kill even with bomb squad!
I use this as a secondary with fast hands if I ever have a riot shield on the enemy team!
Bomb squad is busted and has been for months. Doesn't even block the bouncing betty (despite what Ace's private match testing shows). So wouldn't surprise me it also doesn't block these
I have been trying to level this up, it has been fun to use. Did you test it against the riot shield? Was wondering about the thermite bolt and explosive damage against riot shield.
I've killed riot shield users with the termite bolt. Either it takes 2 shots or they burn so slowly that you have time to shoot them twice, but it definitely works. I imagine the explosive works as well, but I haven't tested it.
explosive bolts guarentee a one shot against riot shieldif you hit their shield or the player
No crossbow past 4 years was more fun than CW Crossbow. Cold war crossbow was godlike and so fun.
That hipfire and movement speed was so great
Really wish this gun guide was out the day the crossbow came out. It was fun to use till I started doing longshots... ngl I kinda got triggered going for longshots with it. I didn't know if I wanted velocity or accuracy
Games like this always need a meme weapon and the crossbow is that weapon. now my silent loadout is ready to rock again!
I wish they'd put this back into the secondary section like in the Black Ops games. It's difficult to justify using this weapon next to the other self-loading and bolt-action DMRs.
I really wish ACE would cover more facts and statistics relating to warzone and dmz instead of mostly multiplayer. His info is so useful that it would be so beneficial as a warzone player.
He has no interest in borezone
Ace the bolt accuracy is inexplicably tied to optic zoom! Like ridiculously so!
I tested it last night in the firing range at the far target, and we're talking consistent headshots with an 11x vs hitting 10' to the side with a red dot depending on the -bolt accuracy (and no it's not stability or imprecision with the dot, it's WAY worse than that, test it)
Well, yes and no. I'm releasing a video on this. It's that accuracy bonuses/penalties are applied to Optics of "Very Small Scope Glint" of lower, and Optics of "Small Scope Glint" or higher (usually scopes) experience 100% accuracy. No bonuses or Penalties are applied. It's weird, I know. I found it out by accident during my testing lol
@@RPSpartan117 you're awesome! Subbed so I can see the video when it drops
Idk what glint it has, but the ACOG with RMR on top and green chevron + elevation dots was definetly inaccurate for me. As was the Eotech + thermal magnifier (sorry, idk what their fake in game names are)
Will you do a Gun Guide on the Basilisk?
They should just add a ballistic knife to this game and make it like bo4 where you actually get attachments for it. It would be so much fun to use and it’s something different in an otherwise bland game.
Not meta but I loved getting Orion using it, I also now have a way to take out Vtols and shield users on Shipment without sacrificing my molotovs or nades
I am so glad this exists to get rid of those shield people. Not only that, but if you equip dragon’s breath ammo on the KV shotgun, it works nicely against shields, just an FYI
I tried the one shot range out to 135m and it's still the same as long as you can hit them
Also thermite bolt used to bounce off riot shields before it actually came out and while they did fix that to an extent, if you stick a bomb squad player's shield they will survive
I fucking love crossbows :)
@TheXclusiveAce
Can you give class loudouts for Different rods to still get 1 one shot kills? Or does the only 9%- bullet velocity not affect it as much? I would have wanted to see an explosive bolt build.
Using fast hands or quickdraw on pistol grips are necessary when using this btw
The explosive bolts make it so arm shots aren’t lethal on initial impact, much like leg shots. :(
I’d be interested to know what exactly the lethal range of the explosion of the bolt is if you shoot a surface near a player.
Still got a 1 shot in Invasion (on a player) at about 180 meters out when going for longshots with it. That was the furthest out I went for a kill and actually hit the person I was attempting to kill.
Does this weapon have any attachments locked behind progression?
lol LOVE the caustic bolts. its fun to annoy other players
Do any bolts work against riot shield?
So will the crossbow still 1 hit kill with termite a riot shield?
Hey Ace... could you do an update for this weapon in MWIII. It doesn't feel exactly the from MWII, but I cant put my finger on it. Thanks
What I’ve found is on Shipment, if I miss a shot near an opponent, just start hitting the melee button instead of reloading.
The Crossbow is a fantastic melee weapon.
@TheXclusiveAce Any idea on MW3? Possible update video?
I wish we had more weapons like this that radically depart from the norm of firearms.