Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 - The Great Valve Controversy - With Definitive RE Advice

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  • Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
  • Following my last video that caused quite a stir! 'Valves Take 2 The Right Way" wherein I checked the valves for the second time and rotated the crank clockwise..(first time I did anti clockwise). Given the unclear manual and mixed opinions and lack of a definitive answer I have sought official advice from The Royal Enfield UK Technology Centre. This is what they said!
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  • @TheMissendenFlyer
    @TheMissendenFlyer 4 роки тому +62

    Welcome to the internet!

    • @DormanDiaries
      @DormanDiaries  4 роки тому +6

      Hahaha - Thanks Mate.

    • @WildlifeMoto
      @WildlifeMoto 4 роки тому +6

      Hi Dorman. You should make a video about installing the Tec Bike bash plate, then you’ll feel the full wrath of UA-cam. Haha. Mr Flyer can vouch for that.

    • @petersmith3789
      @petersmith3789 4 роки тому +1

      i would do the valves the way the engine runs to take up the slack . keep up the good work.

    • @petersmith3789
      @petersmith3789 4 роки тому +1

      cant stop thinking about this i feel sure its not a problem what way you do the valves. If i turn a engine backwards i always turn it the way it runs to take up the slack in the cogs and crank. then do the valves. Dont let them get you down you are doing a good job .

    • @jimmyjam8795
      @jimmyjam8795 4 роки тому +2

      @@petersmith3789 If you turn chain driven cam against DOR, the tensioner may be pushed back sufficiently to jump a tooth.

  • @stepheneldridge6998
    @stepheneldridge6998 4 роки тому +38

    My main thought after watching this....your bike looks great, sounds great! Ignore/delete negative comments! , you have a really enjoyable and interesting channel. Cheers, Steve

  • @Volatile42
    @Volatile42 3 роки тому +10

    I don't have the hex bit to take the cover off, so I always put it in top gear and turn the rear wheel. Lucky to have not faced this confusion :)

  • @bettybluey2712
    @bettybluey2712 4 роки тому +26

    Good on you for contacting Royal Enfield to clarify! Hope you can ignore the nasties, I'm enjoying your channel👍

  • @bazthejazz
    @bazthejazz 4 роки тому +9

    Hi Mr D. I tackled the valve clearance check last year after following your original video and those of Stuart Fillingham & George Milburn on the subject. Not a quick ten-minute job by any means - that rocker cover has almost zero clearance with the frame tube, but turning the crank over is soooo easy, as long as you have a suitable hex wrench/socket to remove the circular cover. That was at 300 miles - thank goodness it dosen't have to be done again until 6,000 miles! Anyway, don't let a few "know-all" keyboard trolls get you down - the rest of us really appreciate your videos.

  • @cyclonebuzz8172
    @cyclonebuzz8172 2 роки тому +8

    As long as you are checking the valve clearances on the camshaft's base circle it doesn't matter what direction you rotate the motor. Basically just line up the timing marks to check your clearances but it's good practice to turn the motor the direction of rotation.

    • @kevbaldwin9552
      @kevbaldwin9552 3 місяці тому

      You took the words out my mouth 👍

    • @donhammer186
      @donhammer186 17 днів тому

      Absolutely "DO NOT" rotate the motor in the wrong direction! Most modern motors have an auto adjust cam chain tensioner, rotating the motor in revers can damage the cam chain, cam chain tensioner, and cam chain guide. If you have doubts about the correct rotation of the crank and cam/cams simple watch the direction of the cam while nudging the crank. Even better, remove the spark plugs to prevent compression, put the gear box in second gear and roll the bike forward while watching the cam/cams.
      Before everyone freaks out on my comment understand that I was a factory trained and certified Honda and Suzuki Tech for 15 years.

    • @cyclonebuzz8172
      @cyclonebuzz8172 16 днів тому

      @donhammer186 Have your ever degreed cams before, or have you ever set up a degree wheel before. To find absolute top dead center, you use a piston stop to set a degree wheel. You have to turn the engine backwards to find absolute top dead center. Literally, every single race motor is turned backwards to setup a degree wheel. If it damaged those components, you wouldn't have 24 hour endurance races. Most endurance race bikes will run the stock automatic tensioner if they aren't prone to failure, so they don't have to adjust a manual tensioner during a race.

  • @seanfarrell5341
    @seanfarrell5341 4 роки тому +2

    Why am I watching this, I don't even own a moterbike but now thank god I have a definitive answer , as for lefty Lucy I think I dated her sister back in the 90's , tighty righty , all the best from Ireland

  • @daveinwla6360
    @daveinwla6360 4 роки тому +7

    Kudos to you for taking the trouble to get it right from the horse's mouth for us!
    I've spotted mistakes in manufacturer's shop manuals, too, and it's not surprising
    given the number of people involved in producing them who don't have direct
    knowledge and experience with working on the product. Just always be a little
    skeptical, and remember that *A Questioning Mind Is A Healthy Mind* .

    • @DormanDiaries
      @DormanDiaries  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks Dave, much appreciated. My mind is forever questioning that’s the problem lol 😆

  • @ianw3294
    @ianw3294 4 роки тому +8

    Thanks for being proactive in relation to this. I had the same question i was going to put to RE myself. Keep up the great work on your channel. Cheers from sunny queensland!

  • @DEeMONsworld
    @DEeMONsworld 4 роки тому +7

    thanks for having the forthrightness to research the answer and admit an error, however insignificant, and provide feedback. don't let them get you down.

    • @DormanDiaries
      @DormanDiaries  4 роки тому

      DEeMON - cheers pal, much appreciated 🍻

  • @ijaxon6675
    @ijaxon6675 4 роки тому +2

    I did mine counter-clockwise. Yes, the manual says clockwise. Manuals are guides and technical references that assume people have a basic understanding. Manuals can be wrong. They aren't doctrine. It's one thing to point at an error, any mature person can appreciate a correction but a majority of people online are idiots and have to be dicks about things they have little practical knowledge with and haven't even done themselves. I appreciate the time you've taken to produce these videos they are fun, informative and a snapshot of your experiences and modifications. You get to go home to a nice bike and a beautiful girl friend. You are the winner here, not them. Cheers mate!

  • @michaelvale8640
    @michaelvale8640 4 роки тому +5

    Like other people have said , if you measure the gap with the valve shut , who cares how you got there. Great video’s, keep doing what you are doing. Remember. If you argue with a fool, they will drag you down to their level, and beat you with experience. Mark Twain ( Allegedly )

    • @daveinwla6360
      @daveinwla6360 3 роки тому +2

      You are right that to point out that the valves are shut over a wide range of crank angles, so the crank position isn't critical. But if the timing chain has too much slack from wear and the chain tensioner is loose, turning the crank backward might cause the chain to slip by one tooth on the timing gear. Always turning the crank forward keeps tension on the proper section of the timing chain and avoids the possibility of slippage.

  • @waynesmith9032
    @waynesmith9032 4 роки тому +6

    Don’t let the buggers grind you down. Keep up the good work. Great informative channel. 👍🏼

  • @themoog3889
    @themoog3889 4 роки тому +9

    It's ok to be be right and tell someone they're wrong.....just try not to be a prick about it ! Like the vids , keep it up 👍

  • @ridewithwarro
    @ridewithwarro 4 роки тому +6

    first off i thought you did a first class job putting that clip together on the valve settings. really nice bit of camera work. real credit to you and i'm sure you put quite a bit of time into filming it too. i'd just cut into it and do a re-load. it's as good or better than most on the web and sometimes a re-run doesn't hit the target second time round like the original.
    secondly i'd like to link it on the spacers review. i think more should see that one.

    • @DormanDiaries
      @DormanDiaries  4 роки тому +1

      Ah thanks mate, appreciated. Yea I will try and edit and re upload.

    • @DormanDiaries
      @DormanDiaries  4 роки тому +1

      Re-Uploaded! ua-cam.com/video/8X3pPW_6Kqs/v-deo.html

  • @neiljarvis8911
    @neiljarvis8911 11 місяців тому +1

    I cat get excited about it personally, if the plugs are out before you turn the crank, I can't see a problem either way. Either the bike filming or your bike (or both )sounds absolutely beautiful btw!😁

  • @PirxthePilot
    @PirxthePilot 4 місяці тому +2

    The most difficult part of the entire process is valve cover removal / and subsequent placement due to gasket catching every way it wants to catch. I wish this was sorted out. Actual valve adjustment is a breeze...and yes it is CCW.

  • @2WHEELSor2WINGS
    @2WHEELSor2WINGS 4 роки тому +2

    Brilliant, putting in your time and efforts to solve the issue.
    You are the only one to bother to do this.
    Who would have thought reading the manual could cause such a furore!
    Love your comment on the "friendly biker"
    Keep up the good work.

  • @niionne6661
    @niionne6661 4 роки тому +5

    Hey mate thanks a lot for the info. I did it anti clockwise :-) so I am good with it. Just a Info there is a Video made my RE on UA-cam where themselves they rotate the motor CLOCKWISE :-D LOL
    And the manual which is available Online has some failures!!! The Screw for the Drain Plug has the wrong tool Number (17mm) instead of 13mm so also the torque value is wrong or the front wheel page look at the first picture the letters are wrong if you compare it with the list. So the manuals has also some mistakes!!!

  • @adaptableadventurerider
    @adaptableadventurerider 4 роки тому +1

    Don't worry bout it mate I have it all the time had someone once arguing like mad trying to tell me that I was setting the timing on my Norton 650ss to the incorrect setting, basically turned into abuse they were incorrectly referring to the atlas timing an not the 650ss as they have different compression ratio pistons (my uncle actually raced one back in the day against the top guys of the period) Keep doing what you are doing mate, just subscribed.

  • @dungbeetlemovies
    @dungbeetlemovies 4 роки тому +3

    With 120 ft lbs of torque, the spark plugs out and a slow smooth rotation, it ain't gonna do any harm either way. :)

  • @ChrisKonings
    @ChrisKonings 4 роки тому +5

    Ah man, the internet sucks sometimes, personally I just enjoyed the video as something to watch whilst I had my morning coffee, enjoyed it whether it was the right rotation or not haha. Please keep up the good work and producing your videos, I really enjoy them and you've helped me work on my own bike more than you can imagine!

    • @DormanDiaries
      @DormanDiaries  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks Chris, Awesome insta pics by the way! 👌

    • @ChrisKonings
      @ChrisKonings 4 роки тому +1

      Dorman Diaries ah cheers, appreciate it!

  • @nurfazley
    @nurfazley 4 роки тому +3

    Hi, mistake is normal for human, just ignore the haters & please don't let them make you down... Please don't take down the video, just add a note on the rotation though. It is really help a lots since your video is really details & step by step in doing it. Keep up the good work, cheers...

    • @DormanDiaries
      @DormanDiaries  4 роки тому

      t - don’t worry I’ll try and tweak and re upload. Thanks for watching

  • @stevewicks9718
    @stevewicks9718 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for clearing that up, I had just done mine 2 weeks ago and when I saw this video I thought oh no, good on you for helping clear it up, much appreciated, keep up the good work, some of us do appreciate it .

  • @sinclairearl
    @sinclairearl 4 роки тому +8

    It doesn’t really matter. As long as the measurement is on the back of the cam. With the exception of may Mack and some Cummins Diesel engines. And some others . Haters gunna hate. P.s. enjoyed the video where you weight the bike. Just my opinion. Like Douglas Adams once said “I’d rather be happy than right any day.
    Cheers

    • @DormanDiaries
      @DormanDiaries  4 роки тому

      sinclairearl - thank you and fabulous quote! So very apt

  • @VishalVoraUK
    @VishalVoraUK 4 роки тому +2

    Sorry to hear this has happened friend. Keep up the good work.

  • @WestSussexBiker
    @WestSussexBiker 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks for this as i thought i must have been getting it wrong for 30 odd years

  • @jeremystafford8374
    @jeremystafford8374 4 роки тому

    Thank you for taking the time to give us correct information, first 300 mile service on my interceptor this weekend. Enjoying your channel, thanks for your efforts.

  • @sharknado7157
    @sharknado7157 4 роки тому +1

    As others have said, as far as you´re in TDC (compression) you´re ok.
    Of course one want to do things right (well, left :)), but in this case I guess is the same.
    Usually motorcycles have a cranksaft of course, then, a primary and then a secondary axis, to wich the chain sprocket is attached.
    Thus, if the sprocket spins counterclockwise, like the rear wheel when moving forward, the primary will spin clockwise, and again the crankshaft counterclockwise.
    There is some confusion, I believe, coming from the fact that in OHV, or side valve engines, you can eventually find camshafts that rotate opossite to the crankshaft.
    If you´re chain driven, then the camshafts spin like the crankshaft.
    Changes nothing but gets baffling to some guys, those that often end up getting "religious" about certain procedures.
    Since if you rotate "like the engine" , and are watching the cam press the tappet to indentify TDC, you´ll usually want to have compression stroke right after admision closes, is advisable to rotate counterclockwise.
    In a single cylinder is a piece of cake, mark in the magneto flywheel aligned, bla bla, anybody can tell the difference between compression and escape, in a twin you may be confused by the resistance of the other cylinder, depending on the layout, and it becomes a nice gesture if the factory doesn´t misslead you haha.
    Note:
    I´m an amateur, not a pro. If I´m wrong please feel more than invited to correct me.
    Excepting the bullyes,
    As they say in my country, those can stand in line to s my d .
    Oh, I misbehave, sory guys ;)

  • @tonymartin3780
    @tonymartin3780 4 роки тому +1

    Key board warriors spring to mind . Keep you the good work . To me I would have taken the plugs out and used the rear wheel to turn the motor and as long as the timing marks are correct then hey presto.but who am I 😎 your videos like everyone’s are helpful to someone as everyone has a different level of experience.

  • @canopus101
    @canopus101 4 роки тому

    Thanks for this video, a truly definitive answer. I watched your earlier video and was puzzled that you turned the crank clockwise and the manual said this was correct. I have an interest as I am buying an Interceptor and will service it myself.
    I can see the point in avoiding loosening the bolt on the crank but thought to myself that with the plugs out this is unlikely to happen and was puzzled by the manual, that you have taken the trouble to read and follow, said to do this. I am relieved that this engine is not an 'odd ball' and that I can happily turn it to TDC in the time honoured manner.
    Thanks again for this follow up video, excellent work.

  • @AudreyH48
    @AudreyH48 4 роки тому +2

    I wouldn't worry about it, I spun mine lefty also by habit haha. My Baker Express INT runs great! My right side were a little tight but the left side was within spec from the factory, so well worth checking anyhow.

  • @iangrimshaw1
    @iangrimshaw1 3 роки тому +1

    I'd doubt it matters. Back when I started working on bikes to set the points opening time we used a Wassell degree wheel and a TDC indicator. Turn the engine over to TDC then turn it back to the BTDC figure. So the engine would be going (gently) clockwise and anti-clockwise. Never had a problem.

  • @DANTHETUBEMAN
    @DANTHETUBEMAN 2 роки тому +1

    I'm all for the counter clockwise engine rotation when adjusting valves because I want that 8 rotation mileage decrease on my engine!!

  • @godzillavsluke
    @godzillavsluke Рік тому

    I’ve been pronouncing controversy wrong my whole life. Thanks for posting.

  • @rodguest
    @rodguest 4 роки тому +4

    SPOT ON KEEP THE VIDEO COMING A++++++++++++++

  • @b05296
    @b05296 4 роки тому +1

    Tdc on compression stroke is all you need, doesn't really matter how you get there.
    You did a nice job explaining the "controversy"... I'll be subbing 👍

  • @markgilson7621
    @markgilson7621 4 роки тому +2

    Well done buddy keep up the good work!

  • @randyolan1273
    @randyolan1273 2 роки тому

    I did mine counter clockwise ! To check the rotation of the engine , put it in sixth gear and rotate the back wheel counter clock wise as if you are moving in a forward direction. I have never been wrong. Once I thought I was but I wasn't. -(;-}.

  • @colinwright1220
    @colinwright1220 4 роки тому

    I did both ways too... Thanks for taking the time to sort it out.. Very good videos and helped me a lot 👍

  • @ianwoollard9008
    @ianwoollard9008 4 роки тому +2

    Hi Bro.
    I have recently subscribed to your channel & found it very informative. I am thinking about buying one of those Interceptors myself and would be happy buying one from someone like you who has taken care in it & yes i saw your first video & thought to myself how very THOROUGH you was.
    I know how brutal people are on this interweb which puts me off doing videos when all you want to do is help people & i truly believe that you enjoy helping people right? You should see the hatred aimed at Delboy's Channel on here. A couple of guys are literally making videos about him to belittle him.
    So it appears that you was correct at the end of the day by rotating the engine anti-clockwise but IMO just as long as the valve is Fully Closed then i can not see where it makes any difference because as you say the Crank Nut is hardly likely to undo as it is torqued down so tight. On my old R/E Bullet i rotate the engine in top gear by turning the back wheel but then again you would get some nob who would argue the toss saying that i was spinning the back wheel in the wrong direction LoL.
    Take No Notice of the haters. Just let them show themselves up. They are not bikers. I thought bikers was all about comradeship.

    • @DormanDiaries
      @DormanDiaries  4 роки тому +1

      ian woollard - yep I only do it to try and help plus I enjoy the process and most of the interactions. Thanks for your support bud 👍

  • @golgothagarage
    @golgothagarage 4 роки тому +1

    In India they turn it counter clockwise because they’re south of the equator. lol Really if the valve is closed it doesn’t matter how it got there.

  • @bradhey
    @bradhey 4 роки тому

    Hey thanks for taking the trouble of setting this straight for ever....The bike sounds really great

  • @godzillavsluke
    @godzillavsluke Рік тому

    You’re a good man. Thanks for getting to the bottom of this issue.

  • @johnDukemaster
    @johnDukemaster 3 роки тому +1

    So many experts and so few that knows. Well done mr Diaries. May I ask where this is filmed? Such lovely scenery! And I do like your bike. Probably going that route myself. Cheers from Denmark!

  • @wynnie55
    @wynnie55 2 роки тому

    I’ve got the same bike and exactly the same helmet. You’ve got style my man.

    • @DormanDiaries
      @DormanDiaries  2 роки тому

      Then so have you pal! Thanks for watching

  • @MBIKES21
    @MBIKES21 4 роки тому +1

    You can’t please them all pal, ignore the idiots. Bike sounds great.

  • @gordonforbes9948
    @gordonforbes9948 4 роки тому

    Great video from an honest biker.
    I watch most of your videos and throughly enjoy them.
    Even though I don't own an Interceptor it's something I will hopefully be able to afford in time.
    The more I learn from good people like yourself the more I admire the Interceptor.
    Keep up the good work sir and believe me, most of us positive viewers simply enjoy your very interesting and informative videos and don't normally comment. There are always going to be negative comments which to be fair you don't ignore and address.
    A big thanks for the time you put into making your videos.
    New subscriber Gordon.

    • @DormanDiaries
      @DormanDiaries  4 роки тому +1

      Appreciate the comment Gordon and thanks for the subscription!

  • @iantoy7778
    @iantoy7778 8 місяців тому +1

    You never turn the engine clock wise because you are putting the pressure of the chain on the cam chain tensioner, which can damage the tensioner.
    All those that think the manual was correct are not mechanic's or they would have questioned it .
    If you sre sure you are correct and are recieving abuse on your channel from the key board warrior's just remove them ,you don't need them and we don't want to read what they say anyway. They will troll someone else soon enough.

  • @gooders6722
    @gooders6722 4 роки тому +6

    Ignore the idiots. Some people just seem to have so little going on in their lives. Keep the videos coming. 💪🏻👍🏻

    • @DormanDiaries
      @DormanDiaries  4 роки тому +1

      Couldn't have put it better myself mate.

  • @Lee-70ish
    @Lee-70ish 4 роки тому

    That's why I always loved kick starters on bikes and starting handles in cars .
    Pull the plugs and with one hand spot on is so much easier to achieve with valve, ignition timing etc.
    Plus of course with cars put it in reverse pull the plugs and I've hand cranked a singer vogue out of a ditch

  • @landauneo
    @landauneo 11 місяців тому +2

    Why bother turning the crankshaft with a tool , your using the center stand anyway ,I put it in 3rd gear ,with the plugs out turn the back wheel the way it turn when riding and the crank will turn in the correct way.... Turn until your marks line up. Easy .

  • @SydMaven
    @SydMaven 4 місяці тому

    Glad you pronounced it conTROVersy and not CONTRAversy. Northern is best!

  • @davelawton9520
    @davelawton9520 3 місяці тому

    A thumbs up from TMF, you must be doing something right, keep it up mate...

  • @michaeltrivette1728
    @michaeltrivette1728 Рік тому +1

    As a quote / unquote Manly Man.
    I can tell you that your only mistake was reading the instructions.

  • @chrisburkinshaw1819
    @chrisburkinshaw1819 4 роки тому

    Good videos, ignore the key board warriors sat at home with nothing better to do

  • @stephenfrench2476
    @stephenfrench2476 2 роки тому

    I really like your video channel and find them very informative. Both you and your wife are very likeable people and don,t take yourselves too seriously. Anything you say on public forums can be taken out of context and there is always someone who thinks they know more or indeed better. Please carry on as i really enjoy your videos.

    • @DormanDiaries
      @DormanDiaries  2 роки тому

      Thanks Stephen, what a lovely comment. Been a bit slow on them lately just really busy with other stuff. Do enjoy putting them together when we get chance though.

  • @davgb7904
    @davgb7904 11 місяців тому

    As a relatively new Interceptor owner last year, I've only just come to this.
    Kudos for a well presented and calm response to aggressive comments.
    Regards the direction, I can appreciate your comments about thread direction and torque as a logical way to move things.
    What I'm not sure about is why the direction actually makes any difference to the clearance? I can only presumably slack in gears, cam chains and other items mean marginal differences in the position of the cams, with a marginal resultant difference in the clearance? But on a standard, softly profiled cam, we must be talking a fraction of a thou difference within a degree or so of rotation, well inside the tolerance? Is any explanation given anywhere, since RE didn't answer that aspect?

  • @8ProductionRoad
    @8ProductionRoad Місяць тому +1

    Good job mate :)

  • @iangriff50
    @iangriff50 4 роки тому +2

    Great vid first time like you always turn engine in direction of operation. This takes out or allows for any back lash/tolerance within the engines normal operating direction. Have been trying to get interceptor workshop manual, do you have a good link to obtain a copy please. PS ignore the keyboard worriers they’re just so good they have a UA-cam channel of their own, it’s called Richardcrainiums know it all smart a#&e 🤪🤣. Keep up the good work👍🇬🇧

    • @DormanDiaries
      @DormanDiaries  4 роки тому

      Ian Griffiths - I don’t actually I can’t remember where I got my link now. To be fair I wouldn’t bother with it 😂

  • @bennybenoit754
    @bennybenoit754 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks mate. Keep it up and don’t bother reading comments. (Including this one 😂)

  • @MrAwcarr
    @MrAwcarr 4 роки тому

    As long as the valve is fully closed, it doesn't matter!

  • @asurridge6979
    @asurridge6979 3 роки тому

    hi enjoyed your video and i know for a fact i would off done the adjustments as you did in your first vid as it is the natural way when you mentioned in the manual it tells you too turn the engine in reverse rotation that brought a frown too my face as i was thinking surelad that will cause the cam chain too slacken off the tensioner and give a false reading so thank you for taking the time and trouble too put us in the picture especially as ive just ordered an interceptor myself keep up the good work thanks

  • @michaelc3416
    @michaelc3416 4 роки тому

    The same controversy (y'all say that word weird over there! Haha!), is taking place in the Himalayan community as well. I have my own opinions on the subject just like most, and I'm currently involved in a similar discussion on advrider. Following your lead I just emailed Royal Enfield North America (RENA) to get some clarification from the NA side of the pond, and specific to the Himalayan. Spinning the engine "backwards" just seems "wrong". But after having my valve cover off and inspecting things closely, I don't think, in the case of the Himalayan at least, it really makes a difference in terms of valve lash clearance. Of course, spinning it "backwards" seems to run the slight risk of loosening the flywheel nut... Maybe not much considering the torque values applied to this nut. Even still, turning an important internal nut "lefty loosy" just seems counterintuitive to me...

  • @tonyhilliam2407
    @tonyhilliam2407 2 місяці тому

    Bike sounds nice and great country roads/scenery 👍

  • @andybish329
    @andybish329 4 роки тому

    Ignore the negative comments I am enjoying your updates and the changes to your bike

  • @syoung3602
    @syoung3602 3 роки тому

    Good job sir well done. Appreciated your effort to educate rest of the world.

  • @CBRroyal382
    @CBRroyal382 4 роки тому +1

    Looking forward to the *right way* video :D Well done!
    On a sidenote: Is that Peak District by any chance?

    • @DormanDiaries
      @DormanDiaries  4 роки тому

      Soul Collector - well spotted, it certainly is.

  • @motorcyclementor1785
    @motorcyclementor1785 4 роки тому +2

    I checked mine by rotating the motor the same direction it rotates when running which is counter-clockwise if on the left of the bike as I have always done. It is always the convention to check valves by rotating the motor the way it normally runs but at the end of the day; I can't see it makes any difference provided the cam is on the flattest part of the lobe and the clearance the greatest.

    • @sscbkr48
      @sscbkr48 11 місяців тому

      Conventional wisdom is usually correct. The sun rises in the east.. that's CW.. rotate the engine in the direction of travel, that too is CW. I suppose the sun could rise in the west but the giant nut that holds the day together might loosen, so why bother.

  • @pikebobstar2033
    @pikebobstar2033 4 роки тому +1

    Bike is sounding awesome. Yeah, unfortunately , social media is full of opinions. Stick to what you know. I've recently fitted some pea shooter style reverse cone silencers and a Booster Plug. Doesn't it just make these bikes sound awesome. Take it steady

    • @DormanDiaries
      @DormanDiaries  4 роки тому +1

      Yes I love the stereo from the twin pipes. I'm looking forward to TEC producing a twin pipe system so I can go stainless. I do like black cans though so might have to paint them.

  • @rodrigoruffa7460
    @rodrigoruffa7460 4 роки тому +2

    Did they tell you why the manual is misleading us in such an important subject? No corrigendum from them? What other mistake is waiting for us to fall into? Thank you!

    • @DormanDiaries
      @DormanDiaries  4 роки тому +2

      Rodrigo Ruffa - no they didn’t but in fairness I didn’t ask and in fairness to them I presume it’s made more for their official techs to follow that will also have separate training. Thank you for teaching me a new word ‘corrigendum’ interesting. See we are always learning!

    • @rodrigoruffa7460
      @rodrigoruffa7460 4 роки тому

      @@DormanDiaries Honestly, neither did I ! I am from Argentina and in Spanish we have a specific phrase for the post edition of a book/printed text: "fe de erratas" so I had to search the web for the appropriate English translation of it. So we have both learned (or should I say learnt?) something! Thank you.

    • @DormanDiaries
      @DormanDiaries  4 роки тому

      @@rodrigoruffa7460 Yes we have both learnt something!

  • @louisbifano142
    @louisbifano142 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the follow-up

  • @Gonnsoo
    @Gonnsoo 2 роки тому

    Gran video amigo mio, Todos cometemos errores. Lo importante es aclararlos y ser honestos. Y tu lo eres. Buenos videos. Saludos desde Chile.

    • @DormanDiaries
      @DormanDiaries  2 роки тому

      Gracias compañero, muy apreciado. Perdón por la demora, ¡acabo de encontrar un montón de comentarios a los que no he respondido!

  • @markgilson7621
    @markgilson7621 4 роки тому

    Don’t let the DH’s get you down. And if anyone is worried about loosening the crank they could just turn the back wheel in a forward direction. Keep up the great work, I’m loving my Interceptor.
    I am now living in Ozz but your snips of the local country side remind me of home Edenfield/ Rochdale area. Am I close?
    Cheers M

  • @critterIMHO
    @critterIMHO 11 місяців тому

    I would naturally rotate counterclockwise, but really, which way you rotate the crank isn’t going to make any difference whatsoever.

  • @mikelight
    @mikelight 2 роки тому

    Top work. Thanks for your efforts!

  • @lvincentsands2668
    @lvincentsands2668 3 роки тому

    Enjoyed the vid, great bike and great background views

    • @DormanDiaries
      @DormanDiaries  3 роки тому

      Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!

  • @alexanderfernandez6627
    @alexanderfernandez6627 2 роки тому

    The reason you shouldn't do it counter clock....is because you could unscrew the crankshaft bolt... Wich is unlikely, but if the bolt is bad or damage it could happen.......that is the reason why the factory dose not recommend to turn the crankshaft counter clock....capis

  • @skb7261
    @skb7261 2 роки тому +1

    So …. Counter clockwise while finding TDC. Thanx

  • @RevQuads
    @RevQuads Рік тому

    I've never even checked the valves. Controversy solved. Runs great! HAHA!

  • @alexanderfernandez6627
    @alexanderfernandez6627 2 роки тому

    Just wanted to add....i being adjusting the valve on my interceptor always....no problems...

  • @h2xhypocriet
    @h2xhypocriet Рік тому

    But, last time you turned it clockwise did not lead to any trouble, so is it possible that in the end it really doesn't matter which direction you turn? Everybody in a debate while all being right?

  • @Lee-70ish
    @Lee-70ish Рік тому

    Tdc is Tdc .
    Rotational direction can not change that its phsyics

  • @richard2951960
    @richard2951960 2 роки тому

    i don't know your name so i just call you mate , if thats ok with you? . I am a mechanic myself for many years . In case of the engine of a int. 650 it does not matter if you turn it left or right , its got to do with the valve distribution chain tentioner some systems flip back and slack the tention of the chain in side the engine what will cause trouble or can damage to your engine. BUT in case of the RE int 650 it does not matter what way you turn the engine . ( problem solved !! no big deal)

  • @paulswainson64
    @paulswainson64 4 роки тому

    New subscriber. The world's a strange place mate 👍😎

  • @jigmeebhutia9949
    @jigmeebhutia9949 4 роки тому

    I see U hv taken out the RE badge of the stock bike from the tank n I guess it luks great. Ur handle bar is black...did U colour it black or U changed it all new..

  • @WyreForestBiker
    @WyreForestBiker 4 роки тому

    Don't let the jealous keyboard warriors with personality issues change your persona .
    Your a nice guy talking bikes without an agenda, and that's your strength .... never spoil it by rising to the bate .

    • @DormanDiaries
      @DormanDiaries  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you, I did enjoy this video however and rewarding to get to the bottom of it.

  • @markgriffiths6638
    @markgriffiths6638 2 роки тому

    You’ve got a stunning bike there

    • @DormanDiaries
      @DormanDiaries  2 роки тому

      Thank you Mark, check out one of my latest here ua-cam.com/video/UqGZLeeIXoo/v-deo.html
      Not massively different but some better shots, different headers etc

  • @georgeturner406
    @georgeturner406 4 роки тому +4

    Hi

  • @lengray44
    @lengray44 3 роки тому

    Well, you adjust valve clearance on the base circle of the cam. It doesn't matter how you get there.

    • @DormanDiaries
      @DormanDiaries  3 роки тому

      You wouldn’t think that by the response I got 🙈

  • @enfield7123
    @enfield7123 3 роки тому

    Keep up the video's will subscribe 👍🇬🇧

  • @tomaszp614
    @tomaszp614 3 роки тому

    Anticlockwise, lefty-loosy. Got it :)

  • @James-od4cz
    @James-od4cz 2 роки тому

    Bit random, did you replace the 4 Nos. Hex
    flange head bolts (M5) when doing the valve clearance checks? i've heard they need replacing at the 10k service and i've also heard they will be fine.

    • @DormanDiaries
      @DormanDiaries  2 роки тому

      Hi Mate, Nope, they aren't under significant torque so don't know why they'd need replacing, that being said some aftermarket ones will probably be stronger/more reliable if you're scared of snapping them.

  • @westerhamflyer9575
    @westerhamflyer9575 4 роки тому

    Try Stuart Filingham or Hithcocks motorcycle for how they do it.love the bike wish i had one☹️👍

    • @DormanDiaries
      @DormanDiaries  4 роки тому

      Yep, I did it right the first time should have left it there rather than being inquisitive! Your bike is sweet pal always liked the look of them.

  • @davidwilliamson9162
    @davidwilliamson9162 3 роки тому

    It doesn’t matter clockwise or anti-clockwise the valve train and rockers will have the same gap

    • @DormanDiaries
      @DormanDiaries  2 роки тому

      Thanks, Tell all the angry people. Gotta say though, prefer the old way (and the way I did it first) feels more mechanically sympathetic. Also RE say there is a risk of skipping timing chain doing it the wrong way, think highly unlikely if doing it slowly but still I'll stick to traditional way from now on! Sorry for delay found a bunch of comments I'd not been notified about.

  • @maakamakana7007
    @maakamakana7007 Рік тому

    Poor guy has never had a mean bone in his body and here he is all in a fluster.
    .you can please some people some of the time, but cant please everyone all of the time, something like that...my question is,, how did the engine operate in both positions...did it fire up, was there pinging, or what if the timing was out..surely it doesnt go perfect in both cases

  • @kevindawe7190
    @kevindawe7190 3 роки тому

    Your bike sounds great in the closing scene of video,what exhausts are fitted to your bike

    • @DormanDiaries
      @DormanDiaries  3 роки тому

      Got the cans from classic bike shop, just universal ones. Check out latest vids now got tec headers

  • @toddcott9510
    @toddcott9510 Рік тому +1

    What is Facebook? I'm over 15 years old, so I don't know.

  • @georgemilburn6213
    @georgemilburn6213 4 роки тому +4

    Hi
    The RE manual is full of errors, not sure who writes them these days. Not a mechanic that's for sure

    • @2WHEELSor2WINGS
      @2WHEELSor2WINGS 4 роки тому

      Hi George, just a aside note. Really hope you bring out some stainless down pipes a similar shape to the std ones so we can fit a variety of silencers too. I Would buy them. Just a thought?
      Graham. 😎

  • @jimmyjam8795
    @jimmyjam8795 4 роки тому

    When you have been a Technician for even premium franchises, you get used to incorrect translations. If you don't understand engines must be rotated in DOR then why risk damaging your engine. But.....rotating either way has nothing to do with valve clearance setting because you set the clearance by aligning the camshaft marks!!! What's hard to understand about this?