SGM says the gospel is what it's all about, but this right here is evidence to the contrary....a 15min video honoring a man? My current pastor would be ashamed to play a video about himself in front of the church. Am I the only one who sees this as a grotesque display of man worship? Ultimately, CJ didn't do these things, God did!
Good grief...I've only watched a minute's worth and it's already reminding me of some Mormon video about Joseph Smith.... (OK - unfair point: I know CJ is a real Christian....but I wish he'd get close to God in this time that God has brought upon him...)
Not being belligerent (honest!) but I DIDN'T compare CJ to the false teacher Joseph Smith.I even said my point was 'unfair' in that regard as he's a real Christian! My point is that the actions of this man revealed in Brent Detwiler's documents (which most people haven't bothered to read) as well as his subsequent words and actions since they were published leave a very nasty taste in the mouth when you see such over-the-top 'honouring' which, to me, borders on idolisation.
...as a former member of a PDI (now SGM) church I can tell you that this was a common occurrence. Every time I turned around the Leaders were "honoring" or giving testimony about how great and awesome one of the other Leaders or their spouses were... it was part of the Sunday service. At the time I thought it was commendable seeing people being recognized for their work... then it just became rote. Now, I see this video and I am stunned. I really thought CJ was a humble, God fearing man... but, this feels wrong. And it is not the only video out there honoring him! And just so you know... I HAVE been reading Brent's blog. I would really appreciate it if he would, every now and then, admit that he was part of the problem.. As we have seen, recently, Josh Harris is a LIAR! I know, for a FACT, that he was stringing, at least four young ladies, along... emailing, calling, and communicating with them... all while he was writing his book, I Kissed Dating Good Bye. I am currently just browsing different social platforms and outlets to kind of catch up with the PDI Ministries progress. I met some incredibly wonderful people from the Church... I just wish there was more honesty and sincerity about their History. And possibly some apologies.
If that were a few years ago especially 2004 when this change of command occurred, what you said would be true. Seeing that there is a distinction and divergence of direction between Joshua/CLC and the rest of SGM for the past YEAR, what you said is very unwarranted, slanderous falsehood AND NOT true.
What is more sad is CJ corruption and the corruption's spread throughout SGM. Like the yeasty leaven of the Pharisees.
SGM says the gospel is what it's all about, but this right here is evidence to the contrary....a 15min video honoring a man? My current pastor would be ashamed to play a video about himself in front of the church. Am I the only one who sees this as a grotesque display of man worship? Ultimately, CJ didn't do these things, God did!
Good grief...I've only watched a minute's worth and it's already reminding me of some Mormon video about Joseph Smith.... (OK - unfair point: I know CJ is a real Christian....but I wish he'd get close to God in this time that God has brought upon him...)
Not being belligerent (honest!) but I DIDN'T compare CJ to the false teacher Joseph Smith.I even said my point was 'unfair' in that regard as he's a real Christian! My point is that the actions of this man revealed in Brent Detwiler's documents (which most people haven't bothered to read) as well as his subsequent words and actions since they were published leave a very nasty taste in the mouth when you see such over-the-top 'honouring' which, to me, borders on idolisation.
...as a former member of a PDI (now SGM) church I can tell you that this was a common occurrence. Every time I turned around the Leaders were "honoring" or giving testimony about how great and awesome one of the other Leaders or their spouses were... it was part of the Sunday service. At the time I thought it was commendable seeing people being recognized for their work... then it just became rote. Now, I see this video and I am stunned. I really thought CJ was a humble, God fearing man... but, this feels wrong. And it is not the only video out there honoring him!
And just so you know... I HAVE been reading Brent's blog. I would really appreciate it if he would, every now and then, admit that he was part of the problem..
As we have seen, recently, Josh Harris is a LIAR! I know, for a FACT, that he was stringing, at least four young ladies, along... emailing, calling, and communicating with them... all while he was writing his book, I Kissed Dating Good Bye.
I am currently just browsing different social platforms and outlets to kind of catch up with the PDI Ministries progress. I met some incredibly wonderful people from the Church... I just wish there was more honesty and sincerity about their History. And possibly some apologies.
that love letter was epic!!!!! hahhaha
If that were a few years ago especially 2004 when this change of command occurred, what you said would be true. Seeing that there is a distinction and divergence of direction between Joshua/CLC and the rest of SGM for the past YEAR, what you said is very unwarranted, slanderous falsehood AND NOT true.