In Conversation with David Frum: Decolonization efforts on university campuses
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- Leading author, journalist and thinker David Frum and The Hubs Editor-at-Large Sean Speer discuss discuss Concordia University in Montreal’s plan to decolonize the institution and what it signals about broader trends on university campuses across North America.
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There was a panel-worshop at a recent pedagogical day at my college on "decolozining stem courses." Apparently mathematics is racist. These characters won't settle for just a handful of disciplines- they want it all.
I’m glad my history department wasn’t infected by these trends when I was going to University.
LOL, dude, your history wasn't just infected, it was the disease.
I graduated from SGWU, pre Concordia. Sometimes it pays to be older.
Listening to the Concordia statement gave me heartburn. If they really care about unlearning colonism they should give up all their modern ways of life, laptops, smartphones, modern housing, anything made from plastic, etc cause it all came from "western ways of knowing". They should also give up their property to indigenous people and move out of the country because they are on indigenous land according to them.
I graduated from Concordia (Sir George Williams) University in 1971. I’m glad I cancelled my financial contribution.
"[De-colonization is] a necessary and ongoing process..."
Who decided it was necessary? Why is it necessary? It's quite a big assertion to make, and yet they don't even bother to explain it.
ARE YOU BLIND??? Look around, the world has gone to shit feeding this social BS. Now if you are a money guy things are great; sell your soul and take your grate...
really enjoy your show. This is a very small complaint. The movement in your back ground is very distracting.
I listen and never watch for exactly that reason!
@@adteachings Thanks for your reply. I will give just listening a try next time.
Could not agree more….
PS How is learning about our history, decolonizing us, unless you feel what we will learn will drive us away?
Frum is priceless and scathing.
Here is a great quote BY 5:20: UNLEARN... IS UNPROGRAM...NOT DUMB DOWN BUT ENLIGHTEN...
These young people don’t know what they are doing, like the previous generations
In terms of substance DeSantis is a horrible analogy. I am hoping it was meant strictly to showcase the difficulty of legislating education, but in terms of secularism FL's governor is himself waging a war on truth.
I can remember when these trends began in the 90's. "Hey hey, ho ho: Western Civ has got to go." I though surely there was a via media, a way to be inclusive without throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Apparently not. Depressing.
IF YOU NEED ME TO GO FURTHER LET ME KNOW...
I am so glad I am not a student at Concordia.
Lord help Concordia as it sinks into irrelevance. I Cannot believe the quote was written by an actual person. Every cliché in the book!
Just a comment about humanities vs social sciences: I once watched an interview with a Nobel laureate in physics, David Gross, who said that he respected the arts but not the social sciences very much, due to the latter being pretty bogus and permeated by political correctness. The arts are more about expressing individual human emotions without the pomposity and pretense of explaining all of society.
6; how is learning about the ways of the rest of the world and ourselves, some how subjugating us to a secular formation, when studying one of the multiple we study???
Looking at Concordia from a historical viewpoint, it was a Christian university--half Catholic (Loyola) and half non-Catholic (YMCA). But maybe the modern Concordia is rootless?
If there is more measured, insightful, and thought-provoking conversation on the internet, then this viewer is not aware of it. Well done, Hub Canada.
wow, dont get out much...try the web
@@sameasis.knownreligion IKR
I guess it means they’ll stop reading books, Gutenberg being a Eurocentric technology and way of teaching and learning, and go back to the oral tradition which is, say, more ‘indigenous’ ?
Spin!
Depends what Blackrock and Vanguard are up to?.
That was indeed a very insightful conversation. Thank you.
where???
Excellent insights, thank you.
what insights???
You know, sometimes when you want to know stuff, its worth actually finding out what things mean.
Recommended Action 2.1: Develop a plan to build the capacity of faculty members to decolonize and indigenize curriculum content across all academic departments.
Recommended Action 2.2: Create teaching and learning opportunities for all Concordia students to gain awareness of Indigenous peoples, their histories, cultures and contemporary issues.
Now, the second doens't even deserve discussion, its pretty straight forward. In the first place its training faculty members. HOW thats done is of course a big issue, that it SHOULD be done is almost without question.
Pretty much all he said was just gibberish that had nothing at all to do with decolonization methods. If he thinks the 'western' way is to separate faith from knowledge then he really doesn't understand EITHER, and certainly doesn't understand western society where we are seeing massive evangelical and religious political movements to dogmatically categorize reality along with judeo christian beliefs.
But I think people like Frum really don't like this kind of thing because of course he knows SQUAT about first nations and as that happens he will be less sought out as a guest.
Well said, thank you.
what was???
You should be working to decolonize systemic racism, wrong rights of the past and provide equal opportunities for people..that doesn't mean destroy the country for lack of better words.
Part 3; religion is about guilt sin and blame, dominance...Spiritual is about responsibility, we are not guilty we are responsible...{quote} This is the knowledge he does not want you to discover; he wants you to stay plastic, stay with the existing influence, AKA HYPNOTIZIM...
5; ignorance when cornered truly has no balls; natural health is a lie??? And some how only associated with aboriginals???
4; "none western ways" appear satanic; "knowledge can be separated from faith(GOD!!!). That is as arrogant a phrase as I have heard in a while...spirit is knowledge; wisdom its human consumption; translation is based on intelligence; here we have an example of none.
Decolonization? All of this is symbolic, the same as when we erected statues, it was symbolic. We must stop celebrating political figures. Politicians are well paid for their service. As a Canadian born and raised, I love my country and couldn’t care less if all the statues were removed.
Time to let go of NATO. Europe free! Make up your mind: if you’re not western, bye bye. I’ll keep reading Thucydides in Europe.