Can u rank nuclear Jerry Tyson, muteba with a bazooka that shoots Jerry Tyson, Alan and Carlos under purgatory rules, limping rihito, clone Jutsu falcon, flying Waka( fei fight), full clown costume okubo, monkee transformation Yumi, full head+ body shivering terashi.
I feel like Sandovich actually kind of broke the fourth wall at the end of the last chapter. Ohma says, "sorry Rolon I have too many people that are lined up for a rematch". I feel like that was Sandovich's clever way of saying to us readers "my bad guys, Rolon's a beast but I need to speed this fight up bc there's so much more I need to cover".
People get it wrong thinking that Rolon shoulda be one of the closest matches since he is the king of purgatory, the thing is Ohma needed to be at least on this level of power(enough to overwhelm Rolon at some point) to make it against the enemies that are to come, cuz his future battles are gonna be outside the ring where there are no rules and winning is life or death. And let's not forget that this was literally his comeback fight from the dead, his fights were way more intense in the past since he was a struggle ish fighter, always getting injured and pushing limits very often, this had to change just so he can stand up to the upcoming foes or else we'd have another fifty or so more chapters for character development until the plot could develop again.
Awesome video, all ranks were agreeable and justified. A lot of people are saying that Lolong is overhyped or is weaker than he's stated to be. But I don't think so. I think that one thing most people seem to miss is that Lolong doesn't have a single technique he's mastered. He's the EXACT opposite of a top tier fighter like Ohma and Kuroki. While they both have mastered their one single style to perfection and have devoted their whole life to them, Lolong is skilled in all areas but expert at none, which is what actually makes him formidable. He's hands down the most adaptable fighter in the whole kengan verse. The question related to Lolong isn't who he can and can't beat. Because if you think that way then Lolong does indeed seem like the most overhyped character in all of kengan. But the actual impressive part which gave him the title of King is that he will be able to fight ANYONE well, regardless of the circumstances. It's not his special techniques, named attacks or raw skill that makes him one of the top, it's his adaptability. If you're gonna fight me on this, don't. I have an exam tomorrow and I'm going to study now. (Like legit there are 1.5 million people competing with me as it's a nation wide exam)
@@mysteriousweeb Thanks a lot man! It's my maths exam tomorrow so it's gonna be a bit tough. But I'll give it my all just like you do when you make these banger videos.
@@ngachuyen1934 Really? I actually forgot about that. It's been so long since I've read about Kanoh's evolution that it slipped outside my mind. But still though I stand by my opinion that Lolong is the most adaptable fighter in all of Kengan. Kanoh is a close second in adaptability which is reasonable since he is already seen as in the top of the verse. Kanoh is most effective against fighters who devote themselves to their particular expertise/style. He can therefore evolve in between the fight and start developing techniques against the style used by that particular fighter. But Lolong is really the worst possible matchup for him. Since he's not really devoted to one specific style, he has developed his skills in pretty much every basic and many advanced fields of fighting. No matter how effective Kanoh's evolution is, he won't be able to find total workarounds for a man who is skilled in basically everything. That's why I think Lolong's adaptability is higher than Kanoh. Don't get me wrong, Kanoh can still defeat Lolong, but I do think that in a Series of matches against the Fighters Lolong will have a much higher chance of walking out with more wins than any other any character, just because of his All-Rounded skill set. That's just my opinion though.
I like how in this arc everytime someone used a broken power up (like guihun, fallen demon) it always made the situation worse for them, exept Ohma who used his advance reasonably. And ofc Lolong being the strongest of purgatory, mister vanilla himself no power up no broken techniques, just being better at fighting than everyone.
I’m thinking Koga learns the Niko style from Ohma because he has a good grasp on learning new techniques, and as of right now Ohma is the last heir to the Niko Style, and it’d be a waste if it wasn’t passed on to continue adding/building upon it. Also, He’s been obsessing over Ohma after getting his ass handed to him years back. Ryuki might implement some Niko style techniques into his Gaoh style as well due to it being a bit outdated/only being good for surprise attacks. Cant wait for the next arc of Omega, that way we can focus more on their character development.
Nah, Koga is Karate based and he has no experience with soft techniques. He could learn a part of Niko style aka Flame and Amantide but I dont see him learning Redirection and Water
Koga is better off creating his own style, he's kind of like the nikos in that he finds all kinds of martial arts and experiences to develop his martial arts, him creating a martial art on par with niko style would be a better outcome and a safer bet imo
Fei vs Lolong is a weird video game competition. Fei had maxed out Stats and all the best Equipment in the game due to various exploits and raid boss grinds. Lolong has lower stats and equip, but had 10x as many hours of play in PvP. If it were a pure numbers game, Fei would absolutely win. But Lolong has the game experience to come out on top.
I think we need to remember that fei used high level of advance and shit like that vs waka because waka is not strong against soft fighting styles so people were amazed about his freak look vs waka on the other hand lolong vs ohma focused more on soft skills from both fighters in the first chapter of the fight between them the amount of dodging and re directions and crazy things like pre initiative made huge diffrence and even gaolang said that ohma can't switch to the advance because he will lose accuracy to have power which won't be a very good idea against amaster of soft skills like lolong .
@@dmin5782 brother u know nothing silat is considred to be a soft style + in misasa fight there is a panel where it was stated that silat is a soft style
@@ahmedmandour3923 Advance isn't a soft style though . And Fei barely used any soft attacks against Waka (only 1 Judo throw and 1 Weeping Willow) DD is different from just normal Advance. The added Fallen Demon makes up for the lack of accuracy (if Fei has one in the first place)
I think if fei isn't messing around and doesn't pop divine demon needlessly he's potentially stronger than lolong. One of the best fighters and physical specs above nearly everyone for a short time.
Fei is unquestionably the Top of the verse for the short time he has Divine Demon activated. Tho he would fuck up and lose to Lolong 9/10 times. He has a chance, every Top Tier has a chance to beat another, but most of the time Lolong would find a way to survive Divine Demon and Fri is fucked after that.
I feel like people underestimate jurota, I feel like his specific fighting style is really bad for purgatory rules in the sense that you can’t really control how hard you slam someone. Basically you don’t know if you’re gonna kill someone if you keep slamming them and obviously in purgatory you can’t kill anyone
Yeah also he got unlucky with his opponent (Hayami) cuz he cant get knocked down/fall unconcious meaning only way to win against him will get you kicked out
I was looking for this comment because he’s truly a master of his craft considering the unrealistic ability to flip someone with just a touch of their skin. He’s literally gonna SPIDERMAN grip you and throw your entire body weight to the ground
@@mysteriousweeb no problem the only thing I might change is jurota maybe it's just me but I find him kind of weird to rank and lu with his formless seems like he'd be a great counter so my one change would probably be jurota 4 and lu 3 but what do you think do you find jurota weird to rank
I think people underplay how strong Lolong strikes are, in his fight with ohma he only landed one or two proper hits, the rest were light or got redirected/adamantine kata
Id put Alan Wu above Falcon and Nicholas simply because of the quality of their opponents, and I'm also guilty of underestimating Carlos Medel because the guy loses his composure way too easily, as for your Top 4 Absolute perfection.
@@Kavewolf1989 still, Alan was pretty low diffed there. Alan literally got split in half, but Xia Ji received 2 killing blows from Raian and he still could run away and hide. so... Xia Ji >>> Alan?
I'd say Fei is #1 actually. When he wasnt using divine demon he was already insane. He barely used any technique after transforming similar to what Rayan did in annihilation.
I think fai and king are interchangeable and I also taking that lu tian could be the 3 strongest. Love your video. I hope to see a team kangan ranking soon
I think that Purgatory fighters will flourish more with Kengan rules now that Ohma won. The rules of no killing, timed matches, and ring-outs held a lot of them back from becoming truly powerful. Jurota is the perfect example since all of his throws or Swing technique, wasn’t at full power because of Purgatory’s restrictions.
Many of Purgatory fighters consider Fighting just a sport and there is no reason to give your life for it. They wouldnt do well in Kengan with that mindset. I think many of them would just quit unless Kengan changed their rule.
Kengan is no longer about death matches since Nogi's (and all the Yamashita team mates) the actual head. This "death is allowed" thing only lasted until Metsudo's final term. The proof of this is when Metsudo's guards stopped Akoya from finishing Ryuki.
@@aclock2 Many? Only Liu and maybe Yumi does. A lot of Gladiators want to fight to the death or is nerfed by the rules. Carlos, Nicolas, Jurota, Fei etc.
@@dmin5782 yeah but fighters have still been suspended due to killing intent under new rules. Remember what happened to Akoya for severely beating up one of Sekibayashi Jun's rivals. There's a loophole but the loophole is not something to be abused.
I appreciate that you didn't disrespect Lolong and actually gave him the ranking he deserves. I'm not sure why people are saying Fei is stronger when Lolong practically mocked him even after all that Fei showcased of Niko magic. Stats wise sure but otherwise Lolong can beat him mid to high diff based on intellect, experience, foresight, etc. Granted while Ohma did beat Lolong high diff as some foresaw, I think the executions was lacking with the conclusion, which is why people are downplaying Lolong hard. I'm fine with him not showing flashy moves but the last chapter didn't end as climactically as I'd have wanted given the importance of this fight.
Lolong also stated „with me bringing up the rear defeat is impossible“ based on everything we saw from him I can’t see how he can counter fei who has especially higher advanced output than ohma and fallen demon on top of that. Furthermore remember fei fought way to arrogant against waka even letting himself get grabbed so a dead serious fei would beat him mid diff.
The time Lolong said "Between someone who weilds immense power haphazardly and someone with a tenth of that power, but who's mastered it, i find the latter more of a threat"
@@diemaschineistrash3791 well seeing how Lolong adapted to the speed of burst advanced, he could have adapted to Fei’s speed as well. But I don’t think it would come to that. He would have knocked Fei cold with one blow. Ohma went limp on his joint with copy ability, I don’t see Fei pulling that off.
@@al151 the one that will be knocked is lolong lol Man can't even react to Ohma advance... What made you think the superior DD won't work on lolong weak ass that got knocked out with flashing steel XD
I was personally disappointed with Rolon and the way he fought, I'm fine with Ohma winning but I didn't find anything dangerous about Rolon at all. From the comments Purgatory fighters made I thought his fighting styles would be a lot more deadly but it wasn't, for someone who wasn't impressed with Raian saying that "I think he is as strong as the fang“ he was just unimpressive over all he didn't use foresight much in is fight even though he clearly masters it. Thanks for the great content man
Ehhhh..I think Fei is easily the strongest in purgatory, his showings are just far too insane. I also think when Lolong said ohma was nothing like Fei I think he just meant personality and the way they use the niko style. That’s just my opinion but Fei made waka look like a joke and made his blood a literally threatening weapon. I feel he was honestly wasted loved his design and character the way he mixed Niko style seemingly to perfection and the fallen demon to a entirely new level. Base to base I don’t disagree but when the Advance is in question……Na the showings in both fights just to me make it a no brainer
No bro liking said he's nothing like fei cause lolong feels like someone who mastered the niko style to perfection but doesn't have the best stats (ohma) rather than someone who has the best stats and isn't completely a master (fei) knows the niko style and is the deadlier opponent
Terashi might have been inspired to learn martial arts following this tournament. He assuredly gained new respect for it given his defeat by Ohkuo and combined with his unusual ability of "shiver" to disperse and redirect damage it could make for VERY dangerous grappling as well as striking. Still, he is an assassin, so I doubt he'd ever make any mark in underground fights.
I cannot understand what you guys expected. Lolong had to fight the MC after the Timeskip in the Final. He has showen his skill against Magic Niko Kure Boy.
@@mysteriousweeb i was expecting a different style from lolong, just to show up that his Mastery of martial arts are different from the likes of sen hatsumi cosmo and many others
I think it would be better if Lolong slash Ohma few more times, Lolong focus on attack to break through Ohma defence, then Ohma can sweap Lolong's leg and finish him, after that Ohma said Lolong would be the winner if Ohma 's timing was 0.5 second slower
1.Fei because he was playing around to much and that's what cause him to run out of time in the end. 2.Lolong. Ohma did some damage to him when he transform for a short time, Imagen what a serious Fei would do that can last much longer, so Lolong is second. If Lolong lost on purpose than its a different story but if he actually lost than I'm sticking with this. Edit 1. When I saw him and Kuroki in the past, I already knew they weren't really equals because someone told them to stop and Kuroki told him to train some more 2. Ohma still was hitting Lolong with some Niko technique's and even finished him off with it, So I guess Lolong can also beat Tiger Niko huh? I doubt it 3. By the looks of it, It was there first time ever seeing Fei actually fighting, that's more proof Fei was way to overconfident once he transform and just wasting time, Waka didn't stand a chance at all because everything was moving in slow motion for Fei, he basically can predict something before it even happens, Ohma kept switching his on and off cause he can't last that long but he was doing real good in that mode in a short time against Lolong, that's more proof. Now if they say he wanted to lose or if Ohma just having a dream and actually lost, than I'll go with Lolong but as for now with Fei Divine power as everything move slowly, I'm going with Fei.
When fei transforms he can't use techniques and lolong had pre initiative on the level of kuroki and we saw how that could help fighting a much faster opponent, also lolong showed he had top teir adaptability
The manga clearly portrays rolon as above fei they still call him the king even after fei shows off enduring the spectacle rolon was unimpressed and was clearly confident he could beat fei
Ohma did damage to Lolong because of close combat Kure techniques. Ohma himself said that he couldn’t use Niko style due to close combat. Lolong would have knocked Fei out with one blow.
The real problem with Fei is that while he is incredibly strong, he doesn't have much combat sense. Lolong never underestimated Ohma because he knows what Ohma is capable of. But Fei failed to realise wakatsuki's strength and underestimated him throughout all the match until it was too late. Because of his lack of combat sense, he is somewhat susceptible to bluffs. He believed that Waka was able to fully seal the niko style. And finally, he killed himself. There are dozens of ways he could've won with his strength. But well...... His lack of combat sense ultimately led to his own demise.
What was most disappointing for me about Lolong is the fact that for being the KING and highly "adaptive",he didn't have any strong defensive measures in his arsenal. Also it shouldn't have taken much for Lolong,a master of foresight,to figure out that if a guy is making him stumble in a fight then he is definitely setting up something. Regardless of what anybody says,it was a very disappointing ending for Lolong.
I loved lolong fighting style and i'm kinda bias cuz he's filipino like me which made me nerd the hell out. Hopefully we see more of him in the future.
Many people are saying lolong and Jurota are weak but considering they have no superhuman techniques and born with some super power and neither have masters like Niko, Gaoh or Kuroki they self mastered there technique and outperformed everyone through sheer techniques and not to mention Jurota was holding back entire time he didn’t use anything other than Judo despite he could. Only people I will put above them are Ohma Kuroki and other Niko, people also seems to underestimate Ohma who defeated Wakatsuki when he was 90% dead and severely injured “old” Kuroki while Lolong couldn’t even scratch young Kuroki
If a fight was all about just pure strength then yeah I guess Fei is the “strongest” but by that logic Waka should be peak of the verse. There’s no way that Fei beats Lolong consistently in fights. Out of 10, Lolong wins 9 times or maybe even does a complete whiteout. Divine Demon has weaknesses, and Fei’s mentality holds him back a lot against someone like Lolong who is, for all intents and purposes, a less deadly Kuroki. Lolong washes Fei in a fight every day of the week. Let me reinstate, only because of Fei’s reliance on the Divine Demon and his man baby mentality. 1. Lolong 2. Fei 3. Jurota 4. Lu Tian/Carlos 5. Toa Mudo 6. Naiden/Dongchen 7. Nicholas Le Bannar 8. Falcon/Alan Wu/Yumi 9. Terashi
For me its 1 and 2 Fei/Lolong debatable, 3rd Jurota, 4 Lu Tian, 5 Toa, 6 Naidan, 7 Carlos, 8 Nicolas, 9 Liu, 10 Alan, 11 Yumi, 12 Falcon and 13 Terashi. We can argue about switching Liu and Nicolas but I think this is accurate list not to say perfect.
Kept seing statements on Lolong being doubted and shi**ed on because he had no flashy moves. They had no idea on how strong and vast Ohma's arsenal of skills can be. If the fight continued, Ohma will probably pull out Total concentration roaring demon divine fist flashing steel iron breaker or something like that.
ohma is just on a godly level now. Yeah fei looked cool whooping waka’s ass around the ring but ohma is above that. 😰. I fear hes approaching top of the verse now and becoming completely broken.
Not too many gripes with this list. Instead of 6/5/4 trio it should have been a 8/7/6 trio with Carlos and I also have it as Naidan > Carlos > Liu. 1/2 should also be together. It felt like bad writing with how Fei behaved pre fallen demon to after( author didn’t want to keep the character around so made him dumb n went suicidal). He was manhandling Waka just fine with his Niko and I feel like that Fei would do well against Lolong and the fallen demon would be his ace in the hole.
I feel like people are underestimating the fighters of Purgatory. Many of the fighters were countered by the Kengan Association's fighters pretty hard. Lolong is particularly being undershot in strength, especially on subcommunities like the Reddit. Lolong is by no means weak, its just the simple fact is that he went up against one of the top 3 fighters (Yes, Ohma is in top 3, fite me).
9:45 I know that Kensai said that Kanon lag with martial art x formless was lessen by a fraction of a second. I don’t know where you got “ no lag “ from.
I feel Rolon would lose against fei, lu and Kanoh. The only reason i feel this way is because the only thing he did impressive vs ohma was stand up from heavy damage.
Yeah. Lolong was extremely disappointing. I'm not saying he should've had flashier moves, but there was very little to actually demonstrate his abilities. There was more telling than showing. I understand that he doesn't specialize in power, speed, or technique, and rather he's great at picking the best move for any situation. This is a trait that Kuroki values above both power and mastery. However, Lolong doesn't really have an X-factor. He's just highly tanky and adaptable. Idk. It's odd. That's not a bad thing in itself but I feel it could have been presented better. Maybe the team was crunched for time this chapter.
@@Imperiusism He was disappointing imo. Strikes faster than Gaolang, tied with Kuroki, undefeated record etc. The story hyped him too much. His performance didn't match his hype. He should've given Ohma as much difficulty as Raian or Kuroki did in Ashura.
last part of the fight felt rushed and I would've dragged it out a bit. but tbh people had a lot of inflated expectations about lolong too. the "he tied me" commentary shouldn't have been interpreted as anything other than Kuroki being mindful/respectful
@Isidoro T. Toa hasn't shown us that he is durable as Wakatsuki or Julius. A huge part of his durability comes from going limp. Plus, Waka is smarter than him so he can very well defend better against attacks.
I'm guessing the difference is Ohma caught Lolong of guard with his full advance but Lolong would have been able to predict Fei? It's hard to guess because Fei basically turned into Yu from "the Boxer" so potentially the only way to beat him was to wait him out like Waka did
Hmmmm I think lolong should be atleast at a solid rank 3 and Either Fei or Lu at rank 1 or 2. Fei and Lu for sure didn't go all out when they've faced lolong at Purgatory and had only showed their true strength during this tournament.
I agree with most of the list but I gotta put Fei above Lolong. Fei showed some incredible stuff while I didn't see anything special or remarkable in Lolong's arsenal. Lolong had good and tricky technique, speed and power but overall nothing that special, S tier for sure but a very limited. Also, what happened to Lolong's foresight and going limp at the end? did he forget he had them? also, Silat is boring.
A very shallow overview, no offense. Rolon's power lies in his overall adaptability and super powerful execution of simple moves, fight iq, experience and more. The man fought Kuroki to a standstill. Also, silat is pretty cool to me.
@@Imperiusism I kinda agree with that but the problem here is that he got tricked twice by advance and also why didn't he use his elite foresight to avoid Ohma's Kure leg trip or why didn't he go limp against Flashing Steel? I'm just confused that a guy with 400+ wins and mastery of foresight got caught by a leg trip and a straight punch. However, I do appreciate Lolong's close quarter fighting, leg trips and holds a little more. Honestly, I really expected a guy like Lolong to know more styles than just Silat.
He would, there’s too much of a gap in physicals, we already got confirmation that you can use speed to overcome pre-initiative, and Fei has the base speed advantage + boosts from max output advance and fallen demon through DD. Fei was already fast enough in base to run circles around Base Waka who blitzed an Ohma who not too long ago was stated by Kiryu to be as fast as him.
I'm commenting on ur video after a while (1 year ig). Last time I did, u were at around subs. Anyway, first congrats on having such consistency, love the pace and clarity of statements. Must have 2 say, u improved quite a bit overtime. Alr8, now I just have 1 contradiction to ur tier list, Fei > Lolong I believe. People in purgatory never been as much as respectful to fei as lolong simply because he never showed them his true capability. Also the fact that in his fight against Waka, he never actually been serious until the last couple of panels but still beat the shit out of him. Ya, lolong stated that ohma have a higher mastery on his Nike style but also the fact that FEI showed couple of moves of niko style that even ohma didn't know, needless to say he dominated Waka pretty bad even in his base form while just using niko style techniques. lolong is superior in techniques no doubt but fei ain't bad at all, combined with divine demon that's just broken. Their durability should also be comparable as fei received blastcore from Waka without divine demon and lolong defeated toa out clean. So, a serious fei should obtain a w (high diff) over serious lolong. (He is always serious anyways🤣)
Here's mine: 13. Terashi - outside of his weird fighting antics like the shivering. I did not really find him a threat in hand to hand matches. His imperial eye was interesting at first if not for its severe downside. 12. Falcon - Another fighter who fights with antics. He is only a threat if he can surprise you with his tricks and poisoned hands. 11. Alan Wu - even if he did not have too much screentime. His strength and capability was partly shown in his Guihun activation and background number of kills, although it might be linked to weapon fights. 10. Carlos Medel - possibly the fastest fighter of the Purg side. He also has pre-initiative as his weapon. However, his biggest weakness is his lack of strength to beat more durable opponents. Although he tried to solve it by learning capoiera, it was not enough to even falter the confidence of Gaolang. 9. Yumigahama Hikaru - Although he had shown glimpse of his durability (still being able to move and be conscious despite a near death state), what he seriously lacks is battle IQ around his environments. Moreover, his fghting style is silly. 8. Liu Dongcheng - I feel like this fighter is the equivalent of Cosmo on the kengan side. A young and great fighter who has lot of potential but still needs much experience. A fighter which has very powerful strikes. However, his defense and counter still needs major improvement as he can get pretty hit easily by Toku2x whose strikes are straightforward and simple. 7. Toa Mudo - Purg's big boy whose durability is on par with Julius and Waka. Add that with his Maungamanawa (another form of redirection kata), you are literally seeing the best defensive big man in possibly the whole series, unless you have big attacks like Julius' Gott-toter or Waka's Blast Core. 6. Nicolas Le Banner - His martial arts, Sahate, is a strong and unique as it takes advantage of his great reaction time, long reach, and pinpoint accuracy to deactivate the opponents nerves. However, his slight weakness for me is his strength. 5. Naidan Monkhbat - His throws and his eye of the sky are a formidable set of skills. If not for his personal agenda he could have beaten Gaoh much earlier in their fight. 4. Rolon Donaire - Although his depiction was overall less than stellar and dissapointing. I can still see how good and strong he is. Simplicity, efficiency and accuracy are his strong suit using his Silat. Also showcased knowledge in different styles on different situations. He is also imo the most durable in the purgatory fighters as Ohma needed 3 different fatal hits to finally down him. 3. Arashiyama Jurota - This fighter was the one i was most hyped about as his "Swing" was for me the memorable move from the purg side (its equivalent is Kanoh's dragon shot from the kengan side) and the side's most powerful. He just had the bad luck of facing against Hayami, his worsr matchup ever. 2. Lu Tian - The fact that he had beaten Kanoh in the Formless style (one of the most powerful forms in the series) speaks highly on this guys capability. Add that with the Wuwang fist and Guihun, he is a hard to beat opponent unless you are on a Kanoh or Kuroki level. 1. Fei Wangfang - With his Tai Chi mastery, fresher Niko Style and Divine Demon. He literally is the real final boss of the Kengan vs. Purgatory battle. The only reason he lost (and died) was due to his overconfidence and dependence on Purgatory rules (and Waka's monstrous durability).
No way you put Lolong, the man second to none in Purgatory and fought against a healthy Ohma, tanked Change of Scenery (Something which cratered Lolong into the ground might I add) and a max Advance output Ohma’s attacks below fucking Jurota, Fei and worst of all Lu Tian. There is no way Lu Tian, who got low to mid diffed by Agito wins over Lolong more than 2 or 3 times out of ten.
I think that Fei is stronger than Lolong. It's true that Lolong said that Fei was weaker than Ohma because Fei didn't master the Niko style... But that's kinda dumb, honestly. Fei was so good with the Niko style that he could make the punches of Waka far weaker than normal without problem, and he even knows abilities that Ohma doesn't know. Fei is on par or even superior than Ohma in mastery of Niko style, he just wanted to beat Waka with the Divine Demon. Besides that, Lolong wasn't faster than Ohma until he adapts to his timing, and even then, he got caught off-guard by the maximus output of Advance; considering this, Lolong would probably be caught off guard by Fei too ( since Divine Demon is stronger than Advance, and by a lot, it seems ) and would probably be even defeated by one punch of the maximum output of Divine Demon. If Waka couldn't tank that, nobody couldn't tank that. And if that is not enough, we don't know a lot about Fei, since he was literally toying with Waka, but he probably has a finisher to end the fight stronger than Change of scenery, but this is pure spectulacion. So yeah, I don't really care how hyped Lolong was: Fei was far more impressive without even being serious.
People seems to forget that Fei murdered Long Min as well. Yes, Fei murdered a weapon specialist with maximum output Advance who can fight Adam, Cosmo and Gaolang at the same time.
Lolong is indeed strong the only reason ohma won was because ohma waited for the perfect time to make a lethal move at lolong and since it was a tournament match if the fight had took part on the outside then the result could have been opposite after all lolong is a former military special forces operative as such he is also an expert when it comes to knife and guns
To be honest I believe that Fei at his maximum power is better than Lolong. Lu tian is also another one who could win, if he mastered the transitions from Guihun to formless and vice versa
I would prob swap Lu tian and Jurota around because Jurota has a big weakness which is aggressive fighters. It seems like if his opponents survive his throws and counters it's hard for jurota to recover.
My personal opinion 1. Fei ( i see him as above lolong personally) 2.lolong 3.Lu Tian ( i have him above jurota he hid his power and has perfect formless and for me jurota dont have feats to match his hype also keep in mind the level of fighter they both was against) 4.jurota ( toa has better feats i feel but due to statement and hype his above) 5.Toa mudo 6.Carlos Medel 7.Naidan ( stated he can win more often than not against dong cheng 8. Dong cheng 9.Alan ( get shit on cause of his loss but i feel he could honestly be even higher on this list but lack of feats i have to put him here) 10. Nicholas 11.bitchass fang 12. Falcon 13. Terashi bitchass
@@felixracine3994 lolong is no where near as tanky as wakatsuki, his niko style mastery and fight iq i feel would generally be enough seeing how the ohma fight went
@@felixracine3994 Not really. Fei can override Lolong's Pre-Initiative with DD, because Lolong has only fought Ohma's Advance (which is weaker and slower than DD). If Lolong doesn't get the timing right, he gets destroyed, but if he gets the timing right, Fei gets destroyed. 50-50 match for me.
I don't understand why people rank fei higher than Lolong Like guys please think about this In terms of power fei has more of it but in terms of refinement and skill Lolong outclasses fei Fei's power is immense like a nuclear bomb Lolong's power is accurate and deadly like a sniper A man with a nuclear bomb who can't use it is rendered helpless against a veteran marksman with a sniper It's that simple
Its getting ridiculous really. Everyone seems to be ignoring Lolong's background and showcased skillas. All because Fei looks cool in demob form and has thrown Waka around. Two completely different fighters.
Hot take: Fei and Lu are actually stronger than Lolong both pysically and as figthers: All their time in prugatory they were only using their normal/base forms and never used their transformations to the fullest, explaining why sometimes people could leave them defeated, but at their fullest they are probably the top 2 strongest in the whole Purgatory roster
Just cuz they're more Powerfull in terms of Physical Strength doenst mean they stronger Overall example Julius had more Raw Power than WaKa and still lost Kanoh had More Raw strength than Koruki and lost just having more Raw Power doenst make them the Strongest
@@edonissmustafaa3596 i said boyh physically and as fighters, their styles are fucking OP, Lu has a mastered Formless and Removal rate of 97% max and Feis got his own branch of the Niko style and Divine Demon
@@localdude2979 Lolong was better than Fei and Lu in everyway Defense Technique Attack Observation Tanking Speed precision execution all of it Fei coulndt even Beat a nerfed Wakatsuki bro Lu got his ass handed to him easily by Kanoh
Damn! before I clicked the video I made my rankings and we both actually had the same list except number 1 and 2, I can see why you put Lolong in the top, I mean anyone really can see why but I think that fei could've beaten Lolong if he fought him without limitation but we'll never know now, and Lolong will eventually grow as a fighter even more and surpass fei.
You guys do realize that Ohma would have beaten Fei too, with the same and probably even less difficultly than he did Lolong. Lolong is an S tier character who would clown on everyone except the gods of the verse.
@@pocketmonster6437 that can work if you want to keep the S tier small and extremely exclusive. He is the so obviously the strongest character in Purgatory and would give a high difficulty fight to everyone you have in S tier, likely beating some of them.
Not so sure about that but I don't think it matters either. Lolong is an all rounder but Fei is better than him in most categories: faster, stronger,more durable (tanked a blast core with not a lot of damage), better reaction time. All Lolong has for him is technique but the gap isn't that big since Fei has Niko Style.
@@mrvacepadrva81 i have ohma, raian, fei, kuroki, and agito in s tier. I needed a harder fight for ohma him to be s tier in my eyes. It looked like a very low high dif fight imo.
@@pocketmonster6437 let me get this straight - you have Fei in S tier even though he had a draw against someone who is not in your S tier. Fei has lost and would lose to Lolong 10 out of 10 times. Fei has a losing match up with more people than Lolong. How exactly did you get Fei in S tier and not Lolong is beyond me. I can understand not including Lolong in S tier, it is objectively wrong but I can understand the logic. I can't understand Fei's inclusion over him though.
The only thing that Fei didn’t predict too well was Wakatsuki’s durability and stamina, during their fight. He had no idea that Wakatsuki could last so much, even after those beatdowns, and only because of that he went down. I think Fei initially planned to save his powers to fight and perhaps kill Ohma, in order to become the last and best Niko style user. So, if Fei goes serious about defeating his opponent without messing around, he claps pretty much anyone, the only obstacle might be Kuroki, as he is the best defensive fighter, while Fei is the best offensive fighter. Ohma, Kanoh, and even Lolong do not stand a chance against Fei, if Fei is about to “end their careers.”While Lolong and Kanoh will slowly adapt to “fast-changing” tactics of Fei, they will be overwhelmed. Even his ordinary Niko style mastering is too OP, let alone Divine Demon. Fei knows more techniques than Ohma, certainly, Ohma may have better mastered his techniques than Fei, but Ohma gets outmatched in “Advance vs Divine Demon” battle.
I feel like Carlos is in the right placement number 6, but he isn’t in the right bracket. I feel like Jurata, Lu Tian, and Towa should be in one bracket and Carlos just by himself.
1. Kanoh = I think kanoh his evolution is just realy broken and he could easily create a fighting style for silat. yea i know lolong is one of the best all rounders in the vers butt silat is his main style so having a counter style for that is gonna help him and kanoh = kuroki so yea (i am not saying kano is as strong as kuroki but he is at least very close) i don't think lolong can beat omega kuroki 2 . Purgetory carlos = i think it was implied that he was stronger after he learned kapoera, 3. Kanoh = now hear me out ohma could very well be stronger but from waht we have seen kanoh wins, mostly because ohma was not said to be one omega kuroki level, but ohma could be stronger than kanoh so you could make a point for both.
Actually I believe Lu is top 2 with fei at number 1. If kanoh is stronger than ohms then Lu is definetly top 2, also he might have won if he stayed at 73% removal rate. After those 2 it would be LOLong and jurota, with jurota in 4 while capped, and LOLong being a jobber that was only hyped to make OHMA look strong unless we get a Adam x Cosmo moment and ohma was dreaming after being ko'd in the first second of the fight.
Siigh no Liu and naidan should be higher than carlos and toa at least if not higher than lu tian as well also I think naidan is higher than jurota too but he just didn't want to show his other skills so I can understand that idk about Liu Also FEI is 100% number 1 not 2
I would not have grouped Carlos with Lu and Toa lol. He would get dumpstered by them in my opinion, but maybe if he wasn’t nerfed the author he would be up there. I think he competes more with Liu and Naidan if anything since I think Gaolong would struggle to have a chance to win against Toa or Lu while he pretty handly was defeating Carlos with little damage.
Lolong never said tgat ohma was stronger then fei. He said he respect a perfectionist more then a powerhouse. And fei was clearly way more stronger then lolong
Hope everyone has a good day and enjoys the video 🐸
Can u rank nuclear Jerry Tyson, muteba with a bazooka that shoots Jerry Tyson, Alan and Carlos under purgatory rules, limping rihito, clone Jutsu falcon, flying Waka( fei fight), full clown costume okubo, monkee transformation Yumi, full head+ body shivering terashi.
@Beast Titan THE KING
didnt know u are asian
I imagine Terashi getting surrounded by high level Worms, and he just draws a pistol and triple taps them all. He IS a better assassin than a fighter.
I think his greatest selling point are melee weapons. He resembles me a bit El Gado from final fight...
I feel like Sandovich actually kind of broke the fourth wall at the end of the last chapter. Ohma says, "sorry Rolon I have too many people that are lined up for a rematch". I feel like that was Sandovich's clever way of saying to us readers "my bad guys, Rolon's a beast but I need to speed this fight up bc there's so much more I need to cover".
Yo I was thinking that was the same reason too
People get it wrong thinking that Rolon shoulda be one of the closest matches since he is the king of purgatory, the thing is Ohma needed to be at least on this level of power(enough to overwhelm Rolon at some point) to make it against the enemies that are to come, cuz his future battles are gonna be outside the ring where there are no rules and winning is life or death. And let's not forget that this was literally his comeback fight from the dead, his fights were way more intense in the past since he was a struggle ish fighter, always getting injured and pushing limits very often, this had to change just so he can stand up to the upcoming foes or else we'd have another fifty or so more chapters for character development until the plot could develop again.
Awesome video, all ranks were agreeable and justified. A lot of people are saying that Lolong is overhyped or is weaker than he's stated to be. But I don't think so. I think that one thing most people seem to miss is that Lolong doesn't have a single technique he's mastered. He's the EXACT opposite of a top tier fighter like Ohma and Kuroki. While they both have mastered their one single style to perfection and have devoted their whole life to them, Lolong is skilled in all areas but expert at none, which is what actually makes him formidable. He's hands down the most adaptable fighter in the whole kengan verse. The question related to Lolong isn't who he can and can't beat. Because if you think that way then Lolong does indeed seem like the most overhyped character in all of kengan. But the actual impressive part which gave him the title of King is that he will be able to fight ANYONE well, regardless of the circumstances. It's not his special techniques, named attacks or raw skill that makes him one of the top, it's his adaptability. If you're gonna fight me on this, don't. I have an exam tomorrow and I'm going to study now.
(Like legit there are 1.5 million people competing with me as it's a nation wide exam)
Good luck with your exam
@@mysteriousweeb Thanks a lot man! It's my maths exam tomorrow so it's gonna be a bit tough. But I'll give it my all just like you do when you make these banger videos.
Kanoh Agito literally have an ability call evolve
@@ngachuyen1934 Really? I actually forgot about that. It's been so long since I've read about Kanoh's evolution that it slipped outside my mind. But still though I stand by my opinion that Lolong is the most adaptable fighter in all of Kengan. Kanoh is a close second in adaptability which is reasonable since he is already seen as in the top of the verse. Kanoh is most effective against fighters who devote themselves to their particular expertise/style. He can therefore evolve in between the fight and start developing techniques against the style used by that particular fighter. But Lolong is really the worst possible matchup for him. Since he's not really devoted to one specific style, he has developed his skills in pretty much every basic and many advanced fields of fighting. No matter how effective Kanoh's evolution is, he won't be able to find total workarounds for a man who is skilled in basically everything. That's why I think Lolong's adaptability is higher than Kanoh. Don't get me wrong, Kanoh can still defeat Lolong, but I do think that in a Series of matches against the Fighters Lolong will have a much higher chance of walking out with more wins than any other any character, just because of his All-Rounded skill set. That's just my opinion though.
I think Lolong perfected silat. Good luck with your exam
I like how in this arc everytime someone used a broken power up (like guihun, fallen demon) it always made the situation worse for them, exept Ohma who used his advance reasonably. And ofc Lolong being the strongest of purgatory, mister vanilla himself no power up no broken techniques, just being better at fighting than everyone.
he isnt really better than anyone
A power boost at the cost of precision will only bring you disadvantages against high level fighters.
I agree man. I think the mangaka definately made that a theme of this arc.
@@aclock2 purgatory are weaker than kengan
so many are dead in purgatory LUL, 0 deaths from kengan
I’m thinking Koga learns the Niko style from Ohma because he has a good grasp on learning new techniques, and as of right now Ohma is the last heir to the Niko Style, and it’d be a waste if it wasn’t passed on to continue adding/building upon it. Also, He’s been obsessing over Ohma after getting his ass handed to him years back. Ryuki might implement some Niko style techniques into his Gaoh style as well due to it being a bit outdated/only being good for surprise attacks. Cant wait for the next arc of Omega, that way we can focus more on their character development.
Ohmas probably gonna get a child with Karla and also koga has only seen like 3 techniques now
Nah, Koga is Karate based and he has no experience with soft techniques. He could learn a part of Niko style aka Flame and Amantide but I dont see him learning Redirection and Water
Koga is better off creating his own style, he's kind of like the nikos in that he finds all kinds of martial arts and experiences to develop his martial arts, him creating a martial art on par with niko style would be a better outcome and a safer bet imo
I think Lolong is likely to train Ryuki too, given their similar objectives/motivations
@@Koraxus wait, what was Lolong’s motivation?
Fei vs Lolong is a weird video game competition.
Fei had maxed out Stats and all the best Equipment in the game due to various exploits and raid boss grinds.
Lolong has lower stats and equip, but had 10x as many hours of play in PvP.
If it were a pure numbers game, Fei would absolutely win. But Lolong has the game experience to come out on top.
fighting iq is way important than strenght
I think we need to remember that fei used high level of advance and shit like that vs waka because waka is not strong against soft fighting styles so people were amazed about his freak look vs waka
on the other hand lolong vs ohma focused more on soft skills from both fighters in the first chapter of the fight between them the amount of dodging and re directions and crazy things like pre initiative made huge diffrence and even gaolang said that ohma can't switch to the advance because he will lose accuracy to have power which won't be a very good idea against amaster of soft skills like lolong .
@@dmin5782 brother u know nothing silat is considred to be a soft style + in misasa fight there is a panel where it was stated that silat is a soft style
@@ahmedmandour3923 Advance isn't a soft style though . And Fei barely used any soft attacks against Waka (only 1 Judo throw and 1 Weeping Willow)
DD is different from just normal Advance. The added Fallen Demon makes up for the lack of accuracy (if Fei has one in the first place)
I guess if lolong will have years of experience fighting anyone with removal or advance he would be one scary fighter once he gets the timing right.
I think if fei isn't messing around and doesn't pop divine demon needlessly he's potentially stronger than lolong. One of the best fighters and physical specs above nearly everyone for a short time.
Facts, he had to lose/die for plot
Fei>Lolong
@Griff lol you acting like Waka would survive that ironbreaker that was delivered by Ohma
@@Handsit Lolong tank the Ironbreaker, i think you mistake Flashing steel with it.
Fei is unquestionably the Top of the verse for the short time he has Divine Demon activated. Tho he would fuck up and lose to Lolong 9/10 times. He has a chance, every Top Tier has a chance to beat another, but most of the time Lolong would find a way to survive Divine Demon and Fri is fucked after that.
@@ace-ih2rw he lost because he's weak. Saying its for plot is stupid,because everything happend here is for plot.
Now it makes sense why Jurota is considered to be on the same tier as Lolong lol.
as someone who doenst like jurota much, lets goooo
Lmao you mean lolang is too weak?
I feel like people underestimate jurota, I feel like his specific fighting style is really bad for purgatory rules in the sense that you can’t really control how hard you slam someone. Basically you don’t know if you’re gonna kill someone if you keep slamming them and obviously in purgatory you can’t kill anyone
Yeah also he got unlucky with his opponent (Hayami) cuz he cant get knocked down/fall unconcious meaning only way to win against him will get you kicked out
Hed br overpowrred in kengan not having to restrain himself.
Hayami said so himself that Jurota couldve just dropped him on his head and killed him instantly. He can potentially tap anyone in the verse.
I was looking for this comment because he’s truly a master of his craft considering the unrealistic ability to flip someone with just a touch of their skin. He’s literally gonna SPIDERMAN grip you and throw your entire body weight to the ground
Absolutely fire video bro and I would say the definitive Purgatory ranking never seen a better one
Appreciate it
@@mysteriousweeb no problem the only thing I might change is jurota maybe it's just me but I find him kind of weird to rank and lu with his formless seems like he'd be a great counter so my one change would probably be jurota 4 and lu 3 but what do you think do you find jurota weird to rank
I think people underplay how strong Lolong strikes are, in his fight with ohma he only landed one or two proper hits, the rest were light or got redirected/adamantine kata
Id put Alan Wu above Falcon and Nicholas simply because of the quality of their opponents, and I'm also guilty of underestimating Carlos Medel because the guy loses his composure way too easily, as for your Top 4 Absolute perfection.
We might learn more about alan during eddie vs raian, considering eddie's "other half statement"
@@mysteriousweeb I have a bad feeling about that fight.
I agree about Alan wu. Considering Raian might be the strongest member on team kengan or like in the series lol
@@Kavewolf1989 still, Alan was pretty low diffed there.
Alan literally got split in half, but Xia Ji received 2 killing blows from Raian and he still could run away and hide.
so... Xia Ji >>> Alan?
@@Koraxus I'm pretty sure xia Ji would die too if he got ripped in half lol
I have full confidence that Tiger Niko and Eddie Wu will be leagues above everyone we’ve seen in Kengan and especially in Purgatory.
My confidence isn't full...
lol after what happened to lolong. I am not sure they will live up to the hype. Ohma might one shot.
Ok it starts to be weird to see you everywhere xD. Anyways I bet that Niko will be alot stronger than Eddie.
Me too
Weird to see you with only 10 likes, you normally have around 40k likes 💀
I'd say Fei is #1 actually. When he wasnt using divine demon he was already insane. He barely used any technique after transforming similar to what Rayan did in annihilation.
Lolong vs Fei is like the thousand hours and experienced player vs players with the best equipment
Fei definitely is the strongest, but that doesn't mean lolong can't beat him but in general fei is stronger
fair enough
Literally even can't be compared to Fei who has the techniques and strength ، rolon elbow 😕🤐
In physical attributes and techniques alone, ur right. But Lolong is still stronger overall than Fei.
Hes dead who gives a shit
@@man_imbored171 I do. In most case scenario those fighters will never fight against each other again so it doesn’t matter. Fei>lolong
My boy Falcon is number 1 - No arguing with the will of fire.
My ranks for Team Purgatory
13. Nicholas Le Banner
12. Yumigahawa
11.Terashi
10.Falcon
9.Alan Wu
8.Naidan Mokbath
7.Liu Dong Cheng
6 .Carlos Mendel
5.Toa Mudo
4 .Jurota
3.Lu Tian
2.Fei
1.Lolong Donaire
I think fai and king are interchangeable and I also taking that lu tian could be the 3 strongest.
Love your video. I hope to see a team kangan ranking soon
you're HEAVILY underestimating Naidan
He has grossly overestimated medel too
I think that Purgatory fighters will flourish more with Kengan rules now that Ohma won. The rules of no killing, timed matches, and ring-outs held a lot of them back from becoming truly powerful. Jurota is the perfect example since all of his throws or Swing technique, wasn’t at full power because of Purgatory’s restrictions.
Many of Purgatory fighters consider Fighting just a sport and there is no reason to give your life for it. They wouldnt do well in Kengan with that mindset. I think many of them would just quit unless Kengan changed their rule.
Kengan is no longer about death matches since Nogi's (and all the Yamashita team mates) the actual head. This "death is allowed" thing only lasted until Metsudo's final term.
The proof of this is when Metsudo's guards stopped Akoya from finishing Ryuki.
@@Koraxus Kaede explained to Ryuki that there's a loophole. You can kill your opponent, but only before the referee stops the match.
@@aclock2 Many? Only Liu and maybe Yumi does.
A lot of Gladiators want to fight to the death or is nerfed by the rules. Carlos, Nicolas, Jurota, Fei etc.
@@dmin5782 yeah but fighters have still been suspended due to killing intent under new rules. Remember what happened to Akoya for severely beating up one of Sekibayashi Jun's rivals.
There's a loophole but the loophole is not something to be abused.
I appreciate that you didn't disrespect Lolong and actually gave him the ranking he deserves. I'm not sure why people are saying Fei is stronger when Lolong practically mocked him even after all that Fei showcased of Niko magic. Stats wise sure but otherwise Lolong can beat him mid to high diff based on intellect, experience, foresight, etc.
Granted while Ohma did beat Lolong high diff as some foresaw, I think the executions was lacking with the conclusion, which is why people are downplaying Lolong hard.
I'm fine with him not showing flashy moves but the last chapter didn't end as climactically as I'd have wanted given the importance of this fight.
Lolong also stated „with me bringing up the rear defeat is impossible“ based on everything we saw from him I can’t see how he can counter fei who has especially higher advanced output than ohma and fallen demon on top of that. Furthermore remember fei fought way to arrogant against waka even letting himself get grabbed so a dead serious fei would beat him mid diff.
The time Lolong said "Between someone who weilds immense power haphazardly and someone with a tenth of that power, but who's mastered it, i find the latter more of a threat"
@@diemaschineistrash3791 well seeing how Lolong adapted to the speed of burst advanced, he could have adapted to Fei’s speed as well. But I don’t think it would come to that. He would have knocked Fei cold with one blow. Ohma went limp on his joint with copy ability, I don’t see Fei pulling that off.
@@al151 he wouldn’t adapt didn’t even work out that well against ohma.
@@al151 the one that will be knocked is lolong lol
Man can't even react to Ohma advance...
What made you think the superior DD won't work on lolong weak ass that got knocked out with flashing steel XD
Falcon will low diff everyone when he master the summoning technique
yes
Can he beat Jerry Tyson tho ?
@@chaosdromanah8620 idk but i would pay to see Falcon vs Tyson
He also need master rasengan to.
I don't think Nic is Akoya's level. Nic had a compatibility advantage and constantly cheated and still only got it to a tie.
I was personally disappointed with Rolon and the way he fought, I'm fine with Ohma winning but I didn't find anything dangerous about Rolon at all. From the comments Purgatory fighters made I thought his fighting styles would be a lot more deadly but it wasn't, for someone who wasn't impressed with Raian saying that "I think he is as strong as the fang“ he was just unimpressive over all he didn't use foresight much in is fight even though he clearly masters it.
Thanks for the great content man
Ehhhh..I think Fei is easily the strongest in purgatory, his showings are just far too insane. I also think when Lolong said ohma was nothing like Fei I think he just meant personality and the way they use the niko style. That’s just my opinion but Fei made waka look like a joke and made his blood a literally threatening weapon. I feel he was honestly wasted loved his design and character the way he mixed Niko style seemingly to perfection and the fallen demon to a entirely new level. Base to base I don’t disagree but when the Advance is in question……Na the showings in both fights just to me make it a no brainer
No bro liking said he's nothing like fei cause lolong feels like someone who mastered the niko style to perfection but doesn't have the best stats (ohma) rather than someone who has the best stats and isn't completely a master (fei) knows the niko style and is the deadlier opponent
Terashi might have been inspired to learn martial arts following this tournament. He assuredly gained new respect for it given his defeat by Ohkuo and combined with his unusual ability of "shiver" to disperse and redirect damage it could make for VERY dangerous grappling as well as striking. Still, he is an assassin, so I doubt he'd ever make any mark in underground fights.
nice video bro high quality and enjoyable
Glad you enjoyed
My Ranking
13.Terashi
12.Yumi
11.Alan
10.Carlos
9.Nicolas
8.Falcon
7.Liu
6.Naidan
5.Toa
4. Lu
3.Jurota
2.Lolong
1.Fei
I cannot understand what you guys expected. Lolong had to fight the MC after the Timeskip in the Final. He has showen his skill against Magic Niko Kure Boy.
most thought ohma would win, but with the amount of hype lolong got from the story Ohma winning harder with a demonbane would of been much better
@@mysteriousweeb i was expecting a different style from lolong, just to show up that his Mastery of martial arts are different from the likes of sen hatsumi cosmo and many others
I think it would be better if Lolong slash Ohma few more times, Lolong focus on attack to break through Ohma defence, then Ohma can sweap Lolong's leg and finish him, after that Ohma said Lolong would be the winner if Ohma 's timing was 0.5 second slower
THANK YOU. And that’s only one reason, I coulda gave so much more
I cannot understand what people who have NOTHING to say about the last fight expected. Maybe nothing? But it's ok to have different opinions.
Great arc but i hope we will see more of imai and gaolang in the future.
1.Fei because he was playing around to much and that's what cause him to run out of time in the end.
2.Lolong. Ohma did some damage to him when he transform for a short time, Imagen what a serious Fei would do that can last much longer, so Lolong is second.
If Lolong lost on purpose than its a different story but if he actually lost than I'm sticking with this.
Edit
1. When I saw him and Kuroki in the past, I already knew they weren't really equals because someone told them to stop and Kuroki told him to train some more
2. Ohma still was hitting Lolong with some Niko technique's and even finished him off with it, So I guess Lolong can also beat Tiger Niko huh? I doubt it
3. By the looks of it, It was there first time ever seeing Fei actually fighting, that's more proof
Fei was way to overconfident once he transform and just wasting time, Waka didn't stand a chance at all because everything was moving in slow motion for Fei, he basically can predict something before it even happens, Ohma kept switching his on and off cause he can't last that long but he was doing real good in that mode in a short time against Lolong, that's more proof.
Now if they say he wanted to lose or if Ohma just having a dream and actually lost, than I'll go with Lolong but as for now with Fei Divine power as everything move slowly, I'm going with Fei.
Not how it works If he transform he will be uncontrollable and lolong will just use that and counter everything fei puts at him
When fei transforms he can't use techniques and lolong had pre initiative on the level of kuroki and we saw how that could help fighting a much faster opponent, also lolong showed he had top teir adaptability
The manga clearly portrays rolon as above fei they still call him the king even after fei shows off enduring the spectacle rolon was unimpressed and was clearly confident he could beat fei
Ohma did damage to Lolong because of close combat Kure techniques. Ohma himself said that he couldn’t use Niko style due to close combat. Lolong would have knocked Fei out with one blow.
The real problem with Fei is that while he is incredibly strong, he doesn't have much combat sense. Lolong never underestimated Ohma because he knows what Ohma is capable of. But Fei failed to realise wakatsuki's strength and underestimated him throughout all the match until it was too late. Because of his lack of combat sense, he is somewhat susceptible to bluffs. He believed that Waka was able to fully seal the niko style. And finally, he killed himself. There are dozens of ways he could've won with his strength. But well...... His lack of combat sense ultimately led to his own demise.
What was most disappointing for me about Lolong is the fact that for being the KING and highly "adaptive",he didn't have any strong defensive measures in his arsenal. Also it shouldn't have taken much for Lolong,a master of foresight,to figure out that if a guy is making him stumble in a fight then he is definitely setting up something. Regardless of what anybody says,it was a very disappointing ending for Lolong.
Finally someone who understand how really powerfull is carlos
I loved lolong fighting style and i'm kinda bias cuz he's filipino like me which made me nerd the hell out. Hopefully we see more of him in the future.
Agree with the list with a possible few changes
For long we have waited and disappoint you did not - Lego Yoda
I honestly can't see Lolong beating Fei. Such disappointment 😔
He can,fei cant win againts waka and lolong is stronger than waka.
Many people are saying lolong and Jurota are weak but considering they have no superhuman techniques and born with some super power and neither have masters like Niko, Gaoh or Kuroki they self mastered there technique and outperformed everyone through sheer techniques and not to mention Jurota was holding back entire time he didn’t use anything other than Judo despite he could. Only people I will put above them are Ohma Kuroki and other Niko, people also seems to underestimate Ohma who defeated Wakatsuki when he was 90% dead and severely injured “old” Kuroki while Lolong couldn’t even scratch young Kuroki
Very precise but Lolong and DD Fei can be interchangeable
If a fight was all about just pure strength then yeah I guess Fei is the “strongest” but by that logic Waka should be peak of the verse.
There’s no way that Fei beats Lolong consistently in fights. Out of 10, Lolong wins 9 times or maybe even does a complete whiteout. Divine Demon has weaknesses, and Fei’s mentality holds him back a lot against someone like Lolong who is, for all intents and purposes, a less deadly Kuroki. Lolong washes Fei in a fight every day of the week.
Let me reinstate, only because of Fei’s reliance on the Divine Demon and his man baby mentality.
1. Lolong
2. Fei
3. Jurota
4. Lu Tian/Carlos
5. Toa Mudo
6. Naiden/Dongchen
7. Nicholas Le Bannar
8. Falcon/Alan Wu/Yumi
9. Terashi
For me its 1 and 2 Fei/Lolong debatable, 3rd Jurota, 4 Lu Tian, 5 Toa, 6 Naidan, 7 Carlos, 8 Nicolas, 9 Liu, 10 Alan, 11 Yumi, 12 Falcon and 13 Terashi. We can argue about switching Liu and Nicolas but I think this is accurate list not to say perfect.
solid stuff
Adrian P you almost had the same list as me, the only difference is I had Lu Tian in 3rd and Top Gear Liu in 8 place.
Kept seing statements on Lolong being doubted and shi**ed on because he had no flashy moves. They had no idea on how strong and vast Ohma's arsenal of skills can be. If the fight continued, Ohma will probably pull out Total concentration roaring demon divine fist flashing steel iron breaker or something like that.
ohma is just on a godly level now. Yeah fei looked cool whooping waka’s ass around the ring but ohma is above that. 😰. I fear hes approaching top of the verse now and becoming completely broken.
My top
13- Terashi
12-Falcon
11-Yumigahama
10-Wu
9-Medel
8-Nicolas
7-Liu
6-Naidan
5-Toa
4-Jurota
3-Lu Tian
2-Fei
1-Lolong
Not too many gripes with this list.
Instead of 6/5/4 trio it should have been a 8/7/6 trio with Carlos and I also have it as Naidan > Carlos > Liu.
1/2 should also be together. It felt like bad writing with how Fei behaved pre fallen demon to after( author didn’t want to keep the character around so made him dumb n went suicidal). He was manhandling Waka just fine with his Niko and I feel like that Fei would do well against Lolong and the fallen demon would be his ace in the hole.
My absolute Favorit is Lolong. No matter what everyone say.
The fight between Lolong and Ohma was kinda quick.
I feel like people are underestimating the fighters of Purgatory. Many of the fighters were countered by the Kengan Association's fighters pretty hard. Lolong is particularly being undershot in strength, especially on subcommunities like the Reddit. Lolong is by no means weak, its just the simple fact is that he went up against one of the top 3 fighters (Yes, Ohma is in top 3, fite me).
Agree. To be honest right now reddit is a pile of toxicity everyone there looks like they lose their mind with recent episodes
Lu Tian was talking about Jośe that Nicholas lost to, not Yumigahama
9:45 I know that Kensai said that Kanon lag with martial art x formless was lessen by a fraction of a second. I don’t know where you got “ no lag “ from.
I feel Rolon would lose against fei, lu and Kanoh. The only reason i feel this way is because the only thing he did impressive vs ohma was stand up from heavy damage.
Yeah. Lolong was extremely disappointing. I'm not saying he should've had flashier moves, but there was very little to actually demonstrate his abilities. There was more telling than showing.
I understand that he doesn't specialize in power, speed, or technique, and rather he's great at picking the best move for any situation. This is a trait that Kuroki values above both power and mastery. However, Lolong doesn't really have an X-factor. He's just highly tanky and adaptable. Idk. It's odd. That's not a bad thing in itself but I feel it could have been presented better. Maybe the team was crunched for time this chapter.
He wasn't dissapointing, you simply had unrealistic expectations. He was pretty powerful to me and justified his hype.
@@Imperiusism He was disappointing imo. Strikes faster than Gaolang, tied with Kuroki, undefeated record etc. The story hyped him too much.
His performance didn't match his hype. He should've given Ohma as much difficulty as Raian or Kuroki did in Ashura.
last part of the fight felt rushed and I would've dragged it out a bit.
but tbh people had a lot of inflated expectations about lolong too. the "he tied me" commentary shouldn't have been interpreted as anything other than Kuroki being mindful/respectful
@Isidoro T. Toa hasn't shown us that he is durable as Wakatsuki or Julius. A huge part of his durability comes from going limp.
Plus, Waka is smarter than him so he can very well defend better against attacks.
I'm guessing the difference is Ohma caught Lolong of guard with his full advance but Lolong would have been able to predict Fei? It's hard to guess because Fei basically turned into Yu from "the Boxer" so potentially the only way to beat him was to wait him out like Waka did
It might be because ohma techniques are way more refined than fei, stronger, quicker and smarter at using niko style.
Hmmmm I think lolong should be atleast at a solid rank 3 and Either Fei or Lu at rank 1 or 2. Fei and Lu for sure didn't go all out when they've faced lolong at Purgatory and had only showed their true strength during this tournament.
I agree with most of the list but I gotta put Fei above Lolong. Fei showed some incredible stuff while I didn't see anything special or remarkable in Lolong's arsenal. Lolong had good and tricky technique, speed and power but overall nothing that special, S tier for sure but a very limited. Also, what happened to Lolong's foresight and going limp at the end? did he forget he had them? also, Silat is boring.
Plot armor to strong. It may Lolong forget how to fight.
A very shallow overview, no offense. Rolon's power lies in his overall adaptability and super powerful execution of simple moves, fight iq, experience and more. The man fought Kuroki to a standstill. Also, silat is pretty cool to me.
@@Imperiusism I kinda agree with that but the problem here is that he got tricked twice by advance and also why didn't he use his elite foresight to avoid Ohma's Kure leg trip or why didn't he go limp against Flashing Steel? I'm just confused that a guy with 400+ wins and mastery of foresight got caught by a leg trip and a straight punch. However, I do appreciate Lolong's close quarter fighting, leg trips and holds a little more. Honestly, I really expected a guy like Lolong to know more styles than just Silat.
He would, there’s too much of a gap in physicals, we already got confirmation that you can use speed to overcome pre-initiative, and Fei has the base speed advantage + boosts from max output advance and fallen demon through DD. Fei was already fast enough in base to run circles around Base Waka who blitzed an Ohma who not too long ago was stated by Kiryu to be as fast as him.
@@shugen6397 no you can hit faster than Pre- Ina user predict to hit, not just pure speed.
I'm commenting on ur video after a while (1 year ig). Last time I did, u were at around subs. Anyway, first congrats on having such consistency, love the pace and clarity of statements.
Must have 2 say, u improved quite a bit overtime.
Alr8, now I just have 1 contradiction to ur tier list,
Fei > Lolong I believe.
People in purgatory never been as much as respectful to fei as lolong simply because he never showed them his true capability. Also the fact that in his fight against Waka, he never actually been serious until the last couple of panels but still beat the shit out of him.
Ya, lolong stated that ohma have a higher mastery on his Nike style but also the fact that FEI showed couple of moves of niko style that even ohma didn't know, needless to say he dominated Waka pretty bad even in his base form while just using niko style techniques.
lolong is superior in techniques no doubt but fei ain't bad at all, combined with divine demon that's just broken.
Their durability should also be comparable as fei received blastcore from Waka without divine demon and lolong defeated toa out clean.
So, a serious fei should obtain a w (high diff) over serious lolong. (He is always serious anyways🤣)
Here's mine:
13. Terashi - outside of his weird fighting antics like the shivering. I did not really find him a threat in hand to hand matches. His imperial eye was interesting at first if not for its severe downside.
12. Falcon - Another fighter who fights with antics. He is only a threat if he can surprise you with his tricks and poisoned hands.
11. Alan Wu - even if he did not have too much screentime. His strength and capability was partly shown in his Guihun activation and background number of kills, although it might be linked to weapon fights.
10. Carlos Medel - possibly the fastest fighter of the Purg side. He also has pre-initiative as his weapon. However, his biggest weakness is his lack of strength to beat more durable opponents. Although he tried to solve it by learning capoiera, it was not enough to even falter the confidence of Gaolang.
9. Yumigahama Hikaru - Although he had shown glimpse of his durability (still being able to move and be conscious despite a near death state), what he seriously lacks is battle IQ around his environments. Moreover, his fghting style is silly.
8. Liu Dongcheng - I feel like this fighter is the equivalent of Cosmo on the kengan side. A young and great fighter who has lot of potential but still needs much experience. A fighter which has very powerful strikes. However, his defense and counter still needs major improvement as he can get pretty hit easily by Toku2x whose strikes are straightforward and simple.
7. Toa Mudo - Purg's big boy whose durability is on par with Julius and Waka. Add that with his Maungamanawa (another form of redirection kata), you are literally seeing the best defensive big man in possibly the whole series, unless you have big attacks like Julius' Gott-toter or Waka's Blast Core.
6. Nicolas Le Banner - His martial arts, Sahate, is a strong and unique as it takes advantage of his great reaction time, long reach, and pinpoint accuracy to deactivate the opponents nerves. However, his slight weakness for me is his strength.
5. Naidan Monkhbat - His throws and his eye of the sky are a formidable set of skills. If not for his personal agenda he could have beaten Gaoh much earlier in their fight.
4. Rolon Donaire - Although his depiction was overall less than stellar and dissapointing. I can still see how good and strong he is. Simplicity, efficiency and accuracy are his strong suit using his Silat. Also showcased knowledge in different styles on different situations. He is also imo the most durable in the purgatory fighters as Ohma needed 3 different fatal hits to finally down him.
3. Arashiyama Jurota - This fighter was the one i was most hyped about as his "Swing" was for me the memorable move from the purg side (its equivalent is Kanoh's dragon shot from the kengan side) and the side's most powerful. He just had the bad luck of facing against Hayami, his worsr matchup ever.
2. Lu Tian - The fact that he had beaten Kanoh in the Formless style (one of the most powerful forms in the series) speaks highly on this guys capability. Add that with the Wuwang fist and Guihun, he is a hard to beat opponent unless you are on a Kanoh or Kuroki level.
1. Fei Wangfang - With his Tai Chi mastery, fresher Niko Style and Divine Demon. He literally is the real final boss of the Kengan vs. Purgatory battle. The only reason he lost (and died) was due to his overconfidence and dependence on Purgatory rules (and Waka's monstrous durability).
No way you put Lolong, the man second to none in Purgatory and fought against a healthy Ohma, tanked Change of Scenery (Something which cratered Lolong into the ground might I add) and a max Advance output Ohma’s attacks below fucking Jurota, Fei and worst of all Lu Tian.
There is no way Lu Tian, who got low to mid diffed by Agito wins over Lolong more than 2 or 3 times out of ten.
trash list
I think that Fei is stronger than Lolong.
It's true that Lolong said that Fei was weaker than Ohma because Fei didn't master the Niko style... But that's kinda dumb, honestly. Fei was so good with the Niko style that he could make the punches of Waka far weaker than normal without problem, and he even knows abilities that Ohma doesn't know.
Fei is on par or even superior than Ohma in mastery of Niko style, he just wanted to beat Waka with the Divine Demon.
Besides that, Lolong wasn't faster than Ohma until he adapts to his timing, and even then, he got caught off-guard by the maximus output of Advance; considering this, Lolong would probably be caught off guard by Fei too ( since Divine Demon is stronger than Advance, and by a lot, it seems ) and would probably be even defeated by one punch of the maximum output of Divine Demon.
If Waka couldn't tank that, nobody couldn't tank that.
And if that is not enough, we don't know a lot about Fei, since he was literally toying with Waka, but he probably has a finisher to end the fight stronger than Change of scenery, but this is pure spectulacion.
So yeah, I don't really care how hyped Lolong was: Fei was far more impressive without even being serious.
Naw this a W comment thank you. We know Lolong is strong but he didn’t face Fei or Lu tian at their full power which I have above him.
People seems to forget that Fei murdered Long Min as well. Yes, Fei murdered a weapon specialist with maximum output Advance who can fight Adam, Cosmo and Gaolang at the same time.
Lolong is indeed strong the only reason ohma won was because ohma waited for the perfect time to make a lethal move at lolong and since it was a tournament match if the fight had took part on the outside then the result could have been opposite after all lolong is a former military special forces operative as such he is also an expert when it comes to knife and guns
To be honest I believe that Fei at his maximum power is better than Lolong. Lu tian is also another one who could win, if he mastered the transitions from Guihun to formless and vice versa
L take
Personally I think if Fei hadn't fooled out he would be top of the verse
I would prob swap Lu tian and Jurota around because Jurota has a big weakness which is aggressive fighters. It seems like if his opponents survive his throws and counters it's hard for jurota to recover.
Fei, the strongest from Purgatory.
Btw brothers,when is your debate on kengan side?. Hopefully to see it soon and also lolong and ohma vs kenga annihilation!!.
coming soon
My personal opinion
1. Fei ( i see him as above lolong personally)
2.lolong
3.Lu Tian ( i have him above jurota he hid his power and has perfect formless and for me jurota dont have feats to match his hype also keep in mind the level of fighter they both was against)
4.jurota ( toa has better feats i feel but due to statement and hype his above)
5.Toa mudo
6.Carlos Medel
7.Naidan ( stated he can win more often than not against dong cheng
8. Dong cheng
9.Alan ( get shit on cause of his loss but i feel he could honestly be even higher on this list but lack of feats i have to put him here)
10. Nicholas
11.bitchass fang
12. Falcon
13. Terashi bitchass
Fei would literally have to suicide to have a chance at beating lolong lol
@@felixracine3994 lolong is no where near as tanky as wakatsuki, his niko style mastery and fight iq i feel would generally be enough seeing how the ohma fight went
@@felixracine3994 Not really.
Fei can override Lolong's Pre-Initiative with DD, because Lolong has only fought Ohma's Advance (which is weaker and slower than DD). If Lolong doesn't get the timing right, he gets destroyed, but if he gets the timing right, Fei gets destroyed.
50-50 match for me.
I don't understand why people rank fei higher than Lolong
Like guys please think about this
In terms of power fei has more of it but in terms of refinement and skill Lolong outclasses fei
Fei's power is immense like a nuclear bomb
Lolong's power is accurate and deadly like a sniper
A man with a nuclear bomb who can't use it is rendered helpless against a veteran marksman with a sniper
It's that simple
Its getting ridiculous really. Everyone seems to be ignoring Lolong's background and showcased skillas. All because Fei looks cool in demob form and has thrown Waka around. Two completely different fighters.
Just give good terapy to Nicolas and he can return to kind, heroic and original self.
he killed the protagonist
@@mysteriousweeb that is why he needs that terapy.
Hot take:
Fei and Lu are actually stronger than Lolong both pysically and as figthers:
All their time in prugatory they were only using their normal/base forms and never used their transformations to the fullest, explaining why sometimes people could leave them defeated, but at their fullest they are probably the top 2 strongest in the whole Purgatory roster
Just cuz they're more Powerfull in terms of Physical Strength doenst mean they stronger Overall example Julius had more Raw Power than WaKa and still lost Kanoh had More Raw strength than Koruki and lost just having more Raw Power doenst make them the Strongest
@@edonissmustafaa3596 i said boyh physically and as fighters, their styles are fucking OP, Lu has a mastered Formless and Removal rate of 97% max and Feis got his own branch of the Niko style and Divine Demon
@@localdude2979 and still Lu lost to Kanoh Easily
@@localdude2979 Lolong was better than Fei and Lu in everyway Defense Technique Attack Observation Tanking Speed precision execution all of it Fei coulndt even Beat a nerfed Wakatsuki bro Lu got his ass handed to him easily by Kanoh
Jurota training with Ohma would be epic
i agree with this completely
Could you do a video of what if match ups with purgatory and Kengan. Like which kengan team members would Naidan beat, so on and so forth.
Damn! before I clicked the video I made my rankings and we both actually had the same list except number 1 and 2, I can see why you put Lolong in the top, I mean anyone really can see why but I think that fei could've beaten Lolong if he fought him without limitation but we'll never know now, and Lolong will eventually grow as a fighter even more and surpass fei.
You guys do realize that Ohma would have beaten Fei too, with the same and probably even less difficultly than he did Lolong. Lolong is an S tier character who would clown on everyone except the gods of the verse.
Top of A for me
@@pocketmonster6437 that can work if you want to keep the S tier small and extremely exclusive. He is the so obviously the strongest character in Purgatory and would give a high difficulty fight to everyone you have in S tier, likely beating some of them.
Not so sure about that but I don't think it matters either.
Lolong is an all rounder but Fei is better than him in most categories: faster, stronger,more durable (tanked a blast core with not a lot of damage), better reaction time. All Lolong has for him is technique but the gap isn't that big since Fei has Niko Style.
@@mrvacepadrva81 i have ohma, raian, fei, kuroki, and agito in s tier. I needed a harder fight for ohma him to be s tier in my eyes. It looked like a very low high dif fight imo.
@@pocketmonster6437 let me get this straight - you have Fei in S tier even though he had a draw against someone who is not in your S tier. Fei has lost and would lose to Lolong 10 out of 10 times. Fei has a losing match up with more people than Lolong. How exactly did you get Fei in S tier and not Lolong is beyond me. I can understand not including Lolong in S tier, it is objectively wrong but I can understand the logic. I can't understand Fei's inclusion over him though.
I think Fei could beat Lolong and Lu Tian could beat Jurota.
The only thing that Fei didn’t predict too well was Wakatsuki’s durability and stamina, during their fight. He had no idea that Wakatsuki could last so much, even after those beatdowns, and only because of that he went down. I think Fei initially planned to save his powers to fight and perhaps kill Ohma, in order to become the last and best Niko style user. So, if Fei goes serious about defeating his opponent without messing around, he claps pretty much anyone, the only obstacle might be Kuroki, as he is the best defensive fighter, while Fei is the best offensive fighter. Ohma, Kanoh, and even Lolong do not stand a chance against Fei, if Fei is about to “end their careers.”While Lolong and Kanoh will slowly adapt to “fast-changing” tactics of Fei, they will be overwhelmed. Even his ordinary Niko style mastering is too OP, let alone Divine Demon. Fei knows more techniques than Ohma, certainly, Ohma may have better mastered his techniques than Fei, but Ohma gets outmatched in “Advance vs Divine Demon” battle.
You still have tome to delete this
I misheard "Nicolas being able to attack nerds" lol
Liu might have the only one in Purg that can 1 hit ko anyone if his fa jin lands
Imaging playing rugby against Toa Mudo
Ngl I voted for the second thumbnail cause of Fei.😂 But this one much cleaner and now its time to indulge.👌
enjoy :)
@@mysteriousweeb 🙏 🐸
I feel like Carlos is in the right placement number 6, but he isn’t in the right bracket. I feel like Jurata, Lu Tian, and Towa should be in one bracket and Carlos just by himself.
#1 Fei, lolong is a future jobber for sure
who would win
lolong vs kanoh
Lolong vs past carlos
kanoh vs ohma
1. Kanoh = I think kanoh his evolution is just realy broken and he could easily create a fighting style for silat. yea i know lolong is one of the best all rounders in the vers butt silat is his main style so having a counter style for that is gonna help him and kanoh = kuroki so yea (i am not saying kano is as strong as kuroki but he is at least very close) i don't think lolong can beat omega kuroki
2 . Purgetory carlos = i think it was implied that he was stronger after he learned kapoera,
3. Kanoh = now hear me out ohma could very well be stronger but from waht we have seen kanoh wins, mostly because ohma was not said to be one omega kuroki level, but ohma could be stronger than kanoh so you could make a point for both.
Lu tian > jurota imo. Formless seems like a perfect counter to not get grabbed by jurota s pinch throw.
Hmm, I would love to see them fight
Actually I believe Lu is top 2 with fei at number 1. If kanoh is stronger than ohms then Lu is definetly top 2, also he might have won if he stayed at 73% removal rate.
After those 2 it would be LOLong and jurota, with jurota in 4 while capped, and LOLong being a jobber that was only hyped to make OHMA look strong unless we get a Adam x Cosmo moment and ohma was dreaming after being ko'd in the first second of the fight.
I wish there was a way that I could see some videos of Kengan Omega, but I can no longer find them on UA-cam SMH. There's only reaction videos.
Could you Rank the Kengan Verse by Physique/Raw strength wise?
If jurota can just fucking throw away his pride, he can even punch harder as Gao lang
To me, Fei is stronger than Lolong but what makes Lolong better is experience. Lolong is a far more experienced fighter than Fei.
A serious fei with a bit more experience is the undisputed strongest character in the verse
i’m still trippin that Yujiro will look at the most bad ass characters in the Kengan Verse & think “ owee i think i’m tryna fuck 🤤 “ 🥶🥵
lmao akoya really staring into ppls souls
Are there any websites where the series is colored?
Will you make the same list for kengan?
Yep
any link to those character profiles?
Fei was strongest and he should’ve fought Ohma
Lolong "Fuck Yumigahama by the way" Donaire
Siigh no Liu and naidan should be higher than carlos and toa at least if not higher than lu tian as well also I think naidan is higher than jurota too but he just didn't want to show his other skills so I can understand that idk about Liu
Also FEI is 100% number 1 not 2
please listen to what i said about carlos
If preinitiative wasnt a thing in kengan fei would likely be top of the verse ngl
I would not have grouped Carlos with Lu and Toa lol. He would get dumpstered by them in my opinion, but maybe if he wasn’t nerfed the author he would be up there. I think he competes more with Liu and Naidan if anything since I think Gaolong would struggle to have a chance to win against Toa or Lu while he pretty handly was defeating Carlos with little damage.
Lolong never said tgat ohma was stronger then fei. He said he respect a perfectionist more then a powerhouse. And fei was clearly way more stronger then lolong