I've had the pleasure of meeting John Ozoga several times. He even checked in a doe I shot in Chippewa County once many years ago. By far the most knowledgeable man I ever met in regards to whitetail deer and their habits. Even more than Leonard Lee Rue III
Amen to that. Or in your area. Or ever in your area. There are folks shooting 200" younger deer far, far less than folks who consistently shoot older, "smaller deer". Who is the better hunter?
I find it easier to pee in a wide opening Gatorade bottle while in the stand than leaning over side, I just dump it on the ground when I get down. I don’t want urine splash on armrests or side of my stand.
I do similar...have considered creating a portajon style funnel urinal for an unused corner. I also have a poop bucket to save having to climb down for that business...have "heavy dooty" liner bags that I seal up and haul off if it gets used.
I use a pee bottle inside our blinds, because i don’t want to cause movement or noise opening or closing the door. Like you said at the beginning of this video, the wind might cause the door to slam.
I installed cheap plastic urinals in my shacks, purchased on amazon. They come with a hose. Simple to install with 2 screws and drill a hole in the bottom of the shack for the hose. For more serious business, I have 5 gallon buckets with a toilet seat attached....using heavy duty plastic bags. Works like a charm and you have minimal movement outside the shack other than to set the used bag outside.
I used to have a cam that took 35mm film. Showing my age...but ,I peed in front of it and the deer hung around so long it used up all my pictures. I was learning then that they were more or less interested in the smell. Since then I also discovered Apple pie moonshine...I didn't know my blind could spin around and get heated up by itself until then. Small sips...is the key.
Fun FACT only one in 14000 deer will reach over 150 inches ? information from older QDM handout Target mature Bucks and everything will fall into place ! Thanks Jeff !
A really cool fact is that 1 out of 2, 4.5 or 5.5 year olds in most whitetail areas will reach and exceed 150 inches in most areas. That stat from the is from harvest records, instead of potential growth of antlers. Kind of misleading depending on how you look at it.
Some of us can only hunt when we can because we don’t hunt for a living. Thats where the saying can’t kill them from the couch comes from because if you only have a handful of days to hunt then you need to use them the best you can
I know that when I drink coffee, my urine smells like coffee. I don't know how long that lasts, though. I, too, remember many years ago people saying "don't pee in the woods. It'll scare the deer!" Then, some time in the 90s, I started hearing people talking about peeing on scrapes. It's funny how things change with knowledge.
I make mock scrapes and pee on them all the time it’s amazing how quick the bucks come to check it. I do it everytime when I hang a camera. Oh and my superstition is to only eat an apple for breakfast before I go hunt. It definitely doesn’t hurt to pee apple pee.
Always felt urine was more of an attractant. In northern Wisconsin I would pee and put a camera on it to show people that wouldn't pee in the woods how it worked. In 48 hours-first animal is almost always a bear, followed by a deer, then a fisher, and then a raven. Try it, it really works. Jeff thanks as always for your videos.
Well I started peeing from stand 25 ft up if I needed to. Result I have definitely seen a lot less deer. ALOT. I’m didn’t want it to be a one season fluke so I have gone 3 seasons. Granted I got a buck every season but those are rifle or muzzleloader ONLY. I was knocking down nice bucks when I was using a pee bottle. Going back to carrying one this year. Archery season hasn’t been what it used to be. My target buck this year avoided me like the plague. Clothes washed carefully after every wear to every other wear. Hung dried outside. Used to use a bee hive smoker to smoke them. Quit that last year. Going back to that also.
We have pee bottles in all our box blinds. No other way to get relief without stepping outside. But they get dumped out the window when exiting for the day.
Pee from the stand with minimal movement whenever the need arises...never seen a deer pay any mind to the scent. Have had a few that I believed came into the sound of pee hitting the leaves, but never anything mature. Also agree with peeing on mock scrapes...I do it if the opportunity arises and it works.
luckily my mentor was a smart man and told me going pee in the woods doesn't scare deer so i have always just went when needed. the timing has sucked and i have been caught in the act by surprise a few times but that's just part of the hunt
I ad a pee jug years ago. Was store bought and made like a hot water bottle with a camo cover. Used it for a few years. Would empty it at my truck or home. Would wash it out and dry it. Then one day it sprung a leak in my back pack. Leaking through the pack and down the back of my legs... Last time I ever used a pee jug. Then in time I realized if you push the leaves away from the bottom of the tree you are in that peeing on the ground wasn't a bad thing. Had deer stop under me several times over the years. 🤠👍
We have pee funnels with tubes going to the ground in our tower blinds we rinse them with bottled water and cap them off inside, we don’t bury the tubes into the ground though that’s a waste of time
Ha funny topic Jeff and the prop with the moonshine. sometimes i purposely hold it until im walking in just to pee on my scrapes, my cams show deer actually come right to it and it works well. Just a stranger to them is my guess. Good seeing ya at ATA, Ryan in Michigan, now im gonna go make some cider moonshine
The whole Ted Nugent I drink nothing but apple juice during hunting season was a funny skit on down to earth hunting video. He was just joking being Ted. If he didn’t become a rock star he would have been a comedian for sure 😂
Probably two maybe Three weeks ago I took a leak right 15 yards in front of my trail cam I keep out and within 2-3 hrs deer where right there a bigger doe sniffed around it didn't affect her one way or the other they just went on picking around eating I was thinking then wow either they're just that used to it or they just don't care and that's all been a myth I've been fed for years
I don't think it matters in any way...meaning if they are downwind if you they will smell you and spook either way. You could even say that deer may accept the coffee smell more than the smell of you...heck, maybe the coffee smell can be a cover up scent 😊
Hey Jeff, I bet we could have a pleasant conversation over a glass of bourbon regarding the controversy of peeing while hunting even if neither of us changed our minds. I take a Gatorade bottle because I hunt from hang-ons much of the time and it's actually easier than trying to hang over the edge and not hitting the rungs. I'll grant you that it can be an attractant in a scrape after some time but I'm more concerned with what happens in the first 20-30 minutes when it's most pungent. I feel it increases my risk of getting busted by a mature deer. I tried doe urine a few times but I've watched it actually repel deer more than once. Some guys cite the time they watched a young buck be attracted to their pee. Well, I've had more than one deer follow my boot tracks to the base of my tree stand and sniff the rungs but that doesn't mean I'll disregard the approach routes going forward. I think the bigger questions is this: what about asparagus pee? What effect does that have?
Can’t seem to get the girlfriend to get one let alone use it but they make a thing called a shewee which I’d have to imagine it makes them going to the bathroom in the woods a little easier. Or it looks like it would on paper.
I peed off a stand this year about three times on one hunt, then a little while later, i arrowed a booner that actually passed by downwind. He did not care about my pee! I use my own pee to activate all my mock scrapes
I pee in a bottle, can’t be grossing you get pee on the step, can’t be any worse pull a bottle out the you swinging that door open (scent that’s building up in there blowing out) you just talk about every time you’re take chances of alerting the deer. I seen hundreds of videos of guy peeing in scrap Not one w a muture buck. Than I dump my bottle by guys stands that say it’s no big deal lol
I say just let er rip right out of the stand, bottles are disgusting 100% , never ever been an issue bow season or gun season. My dad uses that and sometimes leaves it in the blind. That’s the last thing I want to deal with. Gross
Little ole eberhardt will have a field day with the pee bottle part. Dude had an entire video on WHICH bottle to buy. Did the video in a grocery store based off the sound and crunch they have in relation to deer hunting. What a society we are….😂 no wonder the left hates us
What about the myth, deer and cows don’t get along? lol deer won’t go the same place as cows. 🤷♂️ maybe just the myth told to me, but in my experience I see big deer with cows or around cows.
I've had the pleasure of meeting John Ozoga several times. He even checked in a doe I shot in Chippewa County once many years ago.
By far the most knowledgeable man I ever met in regards to whitetail deer and their habits. Even more than Leonard Lee Rue III
He is absolutely incredible for sure....#1
One cannot shoot a 200 inch deer if there is no 200 inch deer to shoot
Amen to that. Or in your area. Or ever in your area. There are folks shooting 200" younger deer far, far less than folks who consistently shoot older, "smaller deer". Who is the better hunter?
give me an older deer anyday. trying to upgrade to the more mature deer
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751definitely the hunter who shoots older “smaller” deer
Ted knows his stuff for sure.
Ozaga is the man.
I peed right off my deer stand this year with a bedding buck and two does within hearing distance. They just listened and couldn't care less.
They really never do! Pretty cool
I find it easier to pee in a wide opening Gatorade bottle while in the stand than leaning over side, I just dump it on the ground when I get down. I don’t want urine splash on armrests or side of my stand.
I do similar...have considered creating a portajon style funnel urinal for an unused corner. I also have a poop bucket to save having to climb down for that business...have "heavy dooty" liner bags that I seal up and haul off if it gets used.
I have always peed in the woods that's the least of my problems or worries
Geez, hope that moonshine isn't too strong! 😂😂
I use a pee bottle inside our blinds, because i don’t want to cause movement or noise opening or closing the door. Like you said at the beginning of this video, the wind might cause the door to slam.
Has anyone on here ever trapped? Theres a difference in curiosity and interest
I installed cheap plastic urinals in my shacks, purchased on amazon. They come with a hose. Simple to install with 2 screws and drill a hole in the bottom of the shack for the hose. For more serious business, I have 5 gallon buckets with a toilet seat attached....using heavy duty plastic bags. Works like a charm and you have minimal movement outside the shack other than to set the used bag outside.
That sounds really nice!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 I am sure Jenn would appreciate u installing them in her shacks
@@JackFrostTheDeerHunterthis sounds really nice!
Some bags come with some sort of scent blocking powder inside of them.
I think you are better off smelling like a #2 than having a scented bag....@@shaneshonda
I used to have a cam that took 35mm film. Showing my age...but ,I peed in front of it and the deer hung around so long it used up all my pictures. I was learning then that they were more or less interested in the smell.
Since then I also discovered
Apple pie moonshine...I didn't know my blind could spin around and get heated up by itself until then.
Small sips...is the key.
😂 Man...very small sips. Without a weapon of course. Appreciate you Tim!! 😊
Yeah 6-7 bottles were drank up during the nights of gun season.
Fun FACT only one in 14000 deer will reach over 150 inches ? information from older QDM handout Target mature Bucks and everything will fall into place ! Thanks Jeff !
A really cool fact is that 1 out of 2, 4.5 or 5.5 year olds in most whitetail areas will reach and exceed 150 inches in most areas.
That stat from the is from harvest records, instead of potential growth of antlers. Kind of misleading depending on how you look at it.
Some of us can only hunt when we can because we don’t hunt for a living. Thats where the saying can’t kill them from the couch comes from because if you only have a handful of days to hunt then you need to use them the best you can
Yes...less is more, that's for sure!
Great show. Nix the drinking. Like a Big Bang Theory Amy experiment. Let’s see how people like the drinking.
I know that when I drink coffee, my urine smells like coffee. I don't know how long that lasts, though.
I, too, remember many years ago people saying "don't pee in the woods. It'll scare the deer!" Then, some time in the 90s, I started hearing people talking about peeing on scrapes.
It's funny how things change with knowledge.
Most definitely!
I make mock scrapes and pee on them all the time it’s amazing how quick the bucks come to check it. I do it everytime when I hang a camera. Oh and my superstition is to only eat an apple for breakfast before I go hunt. It definitely doesn’t hurt to pee apple pee.
Always felt urine was more of an attractant. In northern Wisconsin I would pee and put a camera on it to show people that wouldn't pee in the woods how it worked. In 48 hours-first animal is almost always a bear, followed by a deer, then a fisher, and then a raven. Try it, it really works. Jeff thanks as always for your videos.
Very cool observations Mark!! Thank YOU!
Are you drinking it ?????😂
Tastes like apples... according to Uncle Ted 😁
😂
That is wierd looking with that conversation,,,,
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 🤣🤣
Well I started peeing from stand 25 ft up if I needed to. Result I have definitely seen a lot less deer. ALOT. I’m didn’t want it to be a one season fluke so I have gone 3 seasons. Granted I got a buck every season but those are rifle or muzzleloader ONLY. I was knocking down nice bucks when I was using a pee bottle. Going back to carrying one this year. Archery season hasn’t been what it used to be. My target buck this year avoided me like the plague. Clothes washed carefully after every wear to every other wear. Hung dried outside.
Used to use a bee hive smoker to smoke them. Quit that last year. Going back to that also.
Definitely not the pee 😂
We have pee bottles in all our box blinds. No other way to get relief without stepping outside. But they get dumped out the window when exiting for the day.
Hopefully you don't confuse them with your favorite beverage 😁 As you can imagine...no pee bottles allowed in our blinds
Gotta feeling thats really not apple pie😂 I always try to go before I walk into my short sit stands so I dont have to worry about it. Great vid!
It's actually our own family recipe...pretty dang incredible!
Pee from the stand with minimal movement whenever the need arises...never seen a deer pay any mind to the scent. Have had a few that I believed came into the sound of pee hitting the leaves, but never anything mature. Also agree with peeing on mock scrapes...I do it if the opportunity arises and it works.
luckily my mentor was a smart man and told me going pee in the woods doesn't scare deer so i have always just went when needed. the timing has sucked and i have
been caught in the act by surprise a few times but that's just part of the hunt
I ad a pee jug years ago. Was store bought and made like a hot water bottle with a camo cover. Used it for a few years. Would empty it at my truck or home. Would wash it out and dry it. Then one day it sprung a leak in my back pack. Leaking through the pack and down the back of my legs... Last time I ever used a pee jug. Then in time I realized if you push the leaves away from the bottom of the tree you are in that peeing on the ground wasn't a bad thing. Had deer stop under me several times over the years. 🤠👍
😂 Oh boy!
Yes, they definitely don't care...no need to ever cover up or anything at all. Which is a good thing 😁
They do make good hand warmers for a little while!
Thanks Jeff
We have pee funnels with tubes going to the ground in our tower blinds we rinse them with bottled water and cap them off inside, we don’t bury the tubes into the ground though that’s a waste of time
Ha funny topic Jeff and the prop with the moonshine. sometimes i purposely hold it until im walking in just to pee on my scrapes, my cams show deer actually come right to it and it works well. Just a stranger to them is my guess. Good seeing ya at ATA, Ryan in Michigan, now im gonna go make some cider moonshine
Haha...I don't know if legal Ryan, but I wouldn't mind doing an apple pie moonshine video 😬 Great seeing you too!
My daughter had to pump breast milk while hunting to get rid of it,poured it in the ground and lured every yearling to her stand.
True story
Wow...that's a new one! Pretty cool tho
I grew up hunting in the 80’s and yes it was always said dont pee in the woods it will ruin ur area
Kind of a "black and white" belief back then. My how times have changed for the better with some of these!
The whole Ted Nugent I drink nothing but apple juice during hunting season was a funny skit on down to earth hunting video. He was just joking being Ted. If he didn’t become a rock star he would have been a comedian for sure 😂
Haha, so true Mark!; very smart man too!
pee doesn't scare the deer. I use my own urine to start mock scrapes. its never more than a few hours before the first deer hits the scrape.
I think our record is around 20 minutes, 😊
Probably two maybe Three weeks ago I took a leak right 15 yards in front of my trail cam I keep out and within 2-3 hrs deer where right there a bigger doe sniffed around it didn't affect her one way or the other they just went on picking around eating I was thinking then wow either they're just that used to it or they just don't care and that's all been a myth I've been fed for years
Definitely been a myth 😊
I bring my bottled pee into the woods when I’m setting up cameras/making mock scraps. (Just Incase I’m empty lol)
I remember Charlie Alsheimer advocating peeing in mock scapes many years ago.
Definitely! I think about 12-15 years ago
I do it myself😂
Deer urine scents and sprays have been the biggest hunting gimmick there is!
AMEN!!
And drinking deer pee from a mason jar in your stand is not going to help you either.... just sayin.
I’ll only carry a poop jug from now on
😂
lol. I saw that movie. Thought how bad movies do hunting in general.
So true Mike! Always...almost comical they can't get direction from someone that actually knows hunting
I just heard you can pee in a scrape is that crazy??
Don't pee in a jar, but if you do, at least you have something to wet your whistle ROFL...
😂 Yum yum!? 😬
What about bringing a thermos of coffee with you? Do the deer smell your coffee? Do they care?
I don't think it matters in any way...meaning if they are downwind if you they will smell you and spook either way. You could even say that deer may accept the coffee smell more than the smell of you...heck, maybe the coffee smell can be a cover up scent 😊
Hey Jeff, I bet we could have a pleasant conversation over a glass of bourbon regarding the controversy of peeing while hunting even if neither of us changed our minds. I take a Gatorade bottle because I hunt from hang-ons much of the time and it's actually easier than trying to hang over the edge and not hitting the rungs. I'll grant you that it can be an attractant in a scrape after some time but I'm more concerned with what happens in the first 20-30 minutes when it's most pungent. I feel it increases my risk of getting busted by a mature deer. I tried doe urine a few times but I've watched it actually repel deer more than once.
Some guys cite the time they watched a young buck be attracted to their pee. Well, I've had more than one deer follow my boot tracks to the base of my tree stand and sniff the rungs but that doesn't mean I'll disregard the approach routes going forward. I think the bigger questions is this: what about asparagus pee? What effect does that have?
That sweet apple pie!
Amen!
Can’t seem to get the girlfriend to get one let alone use it but they make a thing called a shewee which I’d have to imagine it makes them going to the bathroom in the woods a little easier. Or it looks like it would on paper.
We've seen that...kind of interesting for sure! Man us guys have it pretty good easy in this department 😬
@ I agree. I have zero complaints 🤣
I’ve seen these and have read a lot of women like them!
I thought for sure that was Jen’s pee jar.Why is he drinking it😂😂
Now that's funny, ha. Something I would do...give Jen a hard time...but definitely wouldn't drink from the jar, then 😂
Dead 😂😂😂😂
Does it make a difference if you are bear hunting?
No, it does not...
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Thanks, one of the guides at the camp I go to insists it scares them away. It will be nice to lose the pee jug.
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edit:super happy 2nd!
January 11, 2025…. A day in history where I actually beat Kurt…. Wow! 😂
Man...almost buddy, almost 😁
Super happy 2nd, haha I like that!
I peed off a stand this year about three times on one hunt, then a little while later, i arrowed a booner that actually passed by downwind. He did not care about my pee! I use my own pee to activate all my mock scrapes
So dang cool! And man, they do not care 1 bit...
I pee in a bottle, can’t be grossing you get pee on the step, can’t be any worse pull a bottle out the you swinging that door open (scent that’s building up in there blowing out) you just talk about every time you’re take chances of alerting the deer.
I seen hundreds of videos of guy peeing in scrap Not one w a muture buck.
Than I dump my bottle by guys stands that say it’s no big deal lol
How bout taking a dump in the woods? LOL 😅
Over by your stand 😂 Is fine
I say just let er rip right out of the stand, bottles are disgusting 100% , never ever been an issue bow season or gun season. My dad uses that and sometimes leaves it in the blind. That’s the last thing I want to deal with. Gross
Man, great way to say it Steve! Gross...and I will add completely unnecessary
Little ole eberhardt will have a field day with the pee bottle part. Dude had an entire video on WHICH bottle to buy. Did the video in a grocery store based off the sound and crunch they have in relation to deer hunting. What a society we are….😂 no wonder the left hates us
🤦🏻♂️
What about the myth, deer and cows don’t get along? lol deer won’t go the same place as cows. 🤷♂️ maybe just the myth told to me, but in my experience I see big deer with cows or around cows.
Love the channel but in this vid your the one being gross and rude… get rid of the bottle
😂
1st
Now that was really quick on the draw...wow, what is this date in history? 😁 Sorry Kurt...the whole bedroom advantage and all, lol
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In between food and bedding. Rock solid strategy pays off! Well done 👍!