My story: Hell is Here and Now! I married the wrong man and was in Hell my whole life. Jesus has Shown me. I was blaming him for not appreciating me..but it was MY Choice..I married him and had his children who never appreciated me either. I chose my OWN Hell. I am Now Forgiving me and everyone who this affected. Hard Life Lesson! I am 80. Jesus Helped me Out! With FORGIVENESS..no one will be in Hell forever. 😊❤
Wow! Thank you so much for sharing that❤️ I’m glad to hear that you’ve been able to work through all of that and have persevered. Forgiveness is not something we do for others; it is the act of releasing ourselves from the bondage of judgment and resentment, which have a lot to do with the "hell" we experience here on earth. When we forgive, we let go of the storylines that fuel our own hell, and in that letting go, we rediscover the heaven that has always been here, waiting within us.
What are you talking about?????? Christian’s say Jews Buddhists Muslims Hindus automatically go to hell by default because Jesus only likes Christian’s because Jesus is a Christian So say Christian’s Who exactly are you talking about forgiving??
@ AnyOne and EveryOne. Christians read what they Want to read. Jesus Loved the Samaritans..who were Israel’s worst enemy. And He Demonstrated it numerous times. One reason He was hated and Hung by the Christians of that day.
Forgiveness of self is sooo important and then Forgiveness of others. So glad you came to this insight. I lived HELL also...but in 3 failed marriages and children by two of them. Thankful for what I've learned on this journey and continue to learn and evolve. God bless! ❤️
Hell and heaven are within you, both gates are within you. When you are behaving unconsciously there is the gate of hell; when you become alert and conscious, there is the gate of heaven.
Good afternoon, Logan. Early one Saturday morning back in September of 2016, I was awaken by Source (God) and led to grab my dictionary off my nightstand and look up the meaning of the word "wretch," and once I discovered the true definition of the word, three things happened: #1, I quit viewing myself and humanity as a wretch (an unfortunate, unlucky and unhappy person, whereby I could no longer feel comfortable singing the hymn 'Amazing Grace'); #2, I gave up my belief in a literal devil; and #3, I was fully convinced that if there was no devil, then there also was no hell.
This is so good. I've already sent so many people your way Logan, because it's just so hard for me to explain, although I try and I try hard. Thanks for another amazing podcast.
When I heard the message, "as if the infinite God which created the entire universe and your whole life would do anything to judge or punish you at all but love you unconditionally as if you were the only creation God ever made" rings so true that I tear up everytime I hear it
@@ZenWithKen The same religions tell you to turn off logic and believe that Adam's children f--ked each other to produce humanity and that God makes certain insects agonize while other insects eggs grow in them Basic logic says no piece of consciousness stays for ever cut off from cosmic consciousness. God's light is what absolute not anyone's presence in hell.
SOUL OR SPIRIT IS ALWAYS PERFECT, IT DOES NOT CARRIES SINS OR KARMAS... THE MIND CARRIES KARMAS OR SINS.. OUR TRUESELF WE ARE NOT THE MIND, BODY AND 5 SENSORY PERCEPTIONS,, WE ARE BEYOND
But about reincarnation, where does your identity go, I don't understand this, like when I wake up in the morning, I still have John as my identity, thanks for the video,
The identity you hold on to is like a well-worn sweater: familiar, comforting, but not truly you. When you wake up each morning, it's as if you slip back into that sweater, thinking it defines you. Reincarnation is simply the shedding of one sweater and putting on another, but the essence of you-the awareness behind the sweater-remains untouched. The "you" that wakes up each morning is just a ripple in the ocean of your being, a temporary form of something eternal. The deeper truth is that your identity is not something you have to find or lose; it’s what you realize you’ve always been beyond name, form, or even lifetimes.
I do aspire to Attaining to the higher Planes above the Astral Plane - a long journey but far from being a chore. It is all about Progress which I have heard defined as 'A continual dawning' and 'Ever-broadening horizons' as you return to the Source from whence you came. There is a lovely line at the end of the Light of Asia (by Edwin Arnold), which attempts to express this: "The dewdrop slips into the shining sea".
Hi logan! I want to ask if a person is bad or evil. Then he will be who he is in every reincarnation, how can same person be good and then suddenly be bad or evil in his next birth? He will never join higher consciousness, perhaps?
Lamentation 3:31 "For the Lord will not cast off for ever:" All is well. What is happening was already decided from the very beginning at the singularity at the level of the Source. The goal is ti give everyone free will. So the book of Joel states that all flesh, including animals, will be given the spirit of god. This means in effect that everyone will be born again. Micah 4:5 states that the new society will be a pluralistic society, in that all nations and people will follow their own gods and the people around the city in question, will follow the lord. This means that the law that goes forth from Jerusalem, will be one of love and freedom. This whole ordeal that humanity has gone through over millions and billions of years, meaning from the minutest organism to humanity, is in order to turn hell into heaven and heaven into hell. Isa 33:14 "The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?" Isa 33:15 "He that walketh righteously, and speaketh uprightly; he that despiseth the gain of oppressions, that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes, that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood, and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil;" So all chaotic evil people will go to the heaven of light with the dragon of revelation 12, and they will turn the universe of light into a universe of darkness. This must be done, because this mirror reality is stuck in Reversed Time in accordance with the CPT Symmetry Principle. The Lawful good will go to the heaven of the universe of darkness, aka hell, and will turn that universe, our universe, into a universe of light. Thus the division in the world between Chaotic Evil and Lawful good, that follow Yahweh the dragon, or Christ, will leave the majority of earths population outside, meaning the meek and those that seek righteousness, will remain on earth. Earth will be divided into two parts, a kingdom of light and a kingdom of darkness, and people will be happy in either of these places, depending on who they are as people. It is written that the kingdom of god (That speaks both good and evil according to Lamentation 3:38 "Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good?") will fill the entire earth. When the sepration is complete, the Lawful good and the Chaotic evil will be removed from earth and go to their respective heavens. They will stay away for a thousand years. Then they will come back to earth, and the preparation for the new creation of the entire cosmos is set.
I have wondered about the unfairless of eternal hell since primary school. How can God be fair when he sends you to be punished forever for the most insignificant sin like eating of the fruit of knowledge .. while the old testament describes God as a vengeful dare I say phychopathic and narcassistic entity. I no longer believe this and I have inner peace, but see others suffering anxiety due to these beliefs.
Question about unity consciousness. The AA 12 is about surrendering to a higher power of your own understanding. The first 3 steps are basically, I can’t, He can, I’ll let Him. So, are we the higher power, the higher power out “there”, or we are inside the higher power and it in us? Are we surrendering to ourselves?
The essence of surrender is about dissolving the illusion of separation-separation between “you” and the Higher Power. When you say, “I can’t, He can, I’ll let Him,” you are stepping out of the ego’s limited story of control and allowing the deeper truth of Being to guide you. Are we the Higher Power? Yes-and no. The Higher Power isn’t something out there; it’s not even “in here” in the way the mind tries to grasp. It simply is, and we are expressions of it, like waves on the ocean. Surrender is about resting in that recognition, where the small self softens and melts into the larger self, which has been here all along. It’s not about “surrendering to ourselves” but realizing that there was never anything separate to begin with.
I had my spiritual awakening in my early 60's after being a life long soft atheist. Since I awakened within this lifetime, I hope I'm nearing the end of the required lessons and I can choose not to incarnate here again, or maybe incarnate somewhere for a little fun the next time around. 😁
Hello, question for anyone seeing this… uh, so we all headed back to “Source” or “Oneness” to do exactly what once we’re there?? Never mind, no one knows.
Your soul will remember it & benefit from it. It's only here on Earth we don't remember & there is a reason for that. Look up the veil of forgetfulness.
Me in Hell: "But why am I here? There isn't supposed to be a Hell!!!" Satan: "Who told you there was no Hell?" Me: "Some video I watched on You Tube" Satan: BWAH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Unfortunately it's true. I commited something terrible that hurt people maybe even worse... and I lost my soul. Dont tell me its impossible, it is. We are part soul, flesh and spirit. But our soul are a part/spark of God, light, love. And because I hurt people I lost the privilege of being part of the whole. Months after this the devil/beast loterally grabbed my back and told me "you should have been careful I own you now" and licked me behind my left ear. 4 years. No soul for 4 years. Its agony. Thats damnation. Being completely cut off. Recently I have more and more visions of hell. God's judgment. Research soul death. You are lost forever. Without a soul you cannot be grafted back to Source anymore. Thus the eternal torment because spirits are eternal. I miss my soul. But I made a terrible thing. Wish I could go back.
The only thing that helped me was repenting to the holy Spirit, and yes I lost my soul too.. I remember the ones who looked at me from family, now looked away, I blasphemed the holy Spirit and didn't realize why my soul was lost, I'm repenting the rest of days through life, I didn't ever hurt anyone but I had very ill thoughts, I felt those things laughing in me, feeling pleasure, it wasn't God's grace, a testimony to those. Hate the sin not the person.. this is the trick devil uses, we judge and hate others only to be like Satan himself
Lifeforms are what created it all. Life in this realm is an experience & learning process. That includes all life in the Universe. Reincarnation? Yes & it means each one here will or already has been Queen Elizabeth the 1st. Past, present & future mean nothing. Each person here will or already has lived as a starving child in North Korea or somewhere in Africa. You will also live as whichever politicians you like or dislike. You will live as every bird & every tree. Once you've lived every experience on this planet, you will do so on every other planet. Each time you leave, you will visit with those who are not currently in this reality. That's the walk but it doesn't ever end. Once this universe is done, it starts again in a different way & it's forever. YOU created it all to start with because you never had a beginning in the spiritual realm. You always existed & always will.
I agree there is no eternal hell. I'm a Christian Universalist. I just believe there are consequences for evil. I believe there is no level of awakening.
i'm not sure what to believe, there is a man in america who says he has been to hell because God sent him there to show him what hell is like because he must warn people that everybody who dous not pray to God and Jesus goes to hell, what do you think about this man?
I would like to believe you because it sounds great,but I went to catholic school raised by Dominican nuns hell is ingrained in my psyche, but thanks anyway!😢
I attended Catholic school as well. Later, I became an evangelical and decided to pursue full-time ministry. I even earned a Bachelor’s Degree in Christian Theology. Despite years of heavy indoctrination and subconscious programming, I was able to deprogram from Christian fundamentalism and break free from the belief system that had disempowered me and prevented me from experiencing true liberation. If anyone understands what it’s like to be indoctrinated with religious dogma, it’s me. Now, I dedicate my life to helping people walk away from toxic religion and let go of fundamentalist doctrines such as hell, original sin, biblical inerrancy, and more. I would love the opportunity to chat with you and share more about what I do and how I support others on their journey of deconstruction and reconstruction. Is this something you would be interested in? I truly believe I can help you release the deeply ingrained belief in hell, which often carries with it overwhelming fear, anxiety, and guilt.
@@LoganBarone thank you for sharing this. I came from a family of pastors.. it's not easy, sharing my awakening and being seen as a "backslider that has embraced new age cult". In people's eyes, I'm lost. I used to lead worship and speak for youth and young professionals. Telling them I stopped praying since 2021 (transitioning) and awakened in 2019, they were very concerned about my salvation.
Do you think that the apostle Paul had this view of hell? There are many critics of Paul that modern Christianity is actually "Paulism" and not true Christianity as there are quite a few Paul's teachings that contradict Jesus teachings! I think that this accepted version of Hell was a product of Paul's views.
Hell never made any sense to me. Simple math. No matter how much evil one committed in his 70-80 years of life on Earth, spending eternity is perpetual punishment is wildly disproportional. Even if you have to spend a billion years in hell for even every mildly bad thought you had during your life, at some point your punishment should end.
'All shall be well', only applies, if you believe that everything is neutral and neutral equalls well. Its more accurate to say that life is going to be mostly pain and suffering for most people and very little fulfillment. I doubt that everyone eventually awakens. Its more realistic to say that there will always be less than 1% of the population that is awakened. So if everything were to suddenly end, over 99% of the current population would never awaken, cause its all over. I doubt there is any big shift in consciousness level that is imminent. Thats a popular topic for videos, but there is no evidence of it.
I don't think anyone, thru the entire history of the human race has "known" what the truth is. All we have are guesses and philosophies to go on. There is no way to prove reincarnation, or any type of afterlife. Now I chose to believe in a higher power that is the source of everything. I chose to hope there is something better than this horrible existence beyond. But those are chosen beliefs, not something I can absolutely prove, even to myself. I have good results from prayer and meditation, and am thankful for all the good things that happen, and try to work thru guilt and regret. I don't believe any organized religion as a whole. When you dig down they all seem the same.
Do you know about Samadhi and OBEs? There is a reason for the Kingdom of Heaven being within because it's of the same nature as subjective experience : it's not subject to falsifiable empirical observation.
Why would we leave home, come here to forget who we are and incarnate over and over undoing all the Karma we made not knowing who we are being born into a terrible place where we either kill or be killed, eat or and be eaten? Birth in this world means trauma.
@TheWatcher-1960 Good News: JESUS CHRIST🩸YAHSHUA of Nazareth saves souls from perishing into Hell and the Lake of Fire which you deny. Bad news: You are currently on the wide road that leads to Hell and to the Lake of Fire which you vehemently deny. Repent and call upon JESUS CHRIST of Nazareth and be saved by He Who loves you and does want you to perish. Romans 10:9-10.
Sometimes i think eternal hell is more likely to be real precisely because it is undesirable and horrific. In any case, why do we assume that reality must be something that we would want to be true?
@LoganBarone I have no idea. But if the creator of the universe decides it has to be so, then I guess it has to exist. Something about God's holiness? I don't understand it either. But I can't assume it's not true just because I don't understand it. And I can't assume reality must ultimately be anything I might want it to be.
Because you're thinking in terms of "it's too good to be true!" But all enlightened mystics realise that only Goodness beyond measure is True, and that is also my direct experience, anything otherwise is now simply and very obviously ego programming
Because that what would 100℅ free will implies : you chose what kind of scenario you play, its rules and the meta-rules for realizing what the game is It doesn't make metaphysical sense either : God's love is the only constant, not anyone's presence in hell. How can a drop of consciousness be eternally cut off cosmic consciousness?
Why do we assume.ultimate reality is about love or anything positive? When we look at nature, all we see is animals killing each other and struggling for dominance. If we assume reality is good and soft and loving, it may be just because we've become soft through living in a decadent modern world far removed from the harsh reality that our ancestors knew for all human history, and our animals forebears for millions of years before that. The idea that life is about groveling before power, and power is that which gives pain -- that is far more in line with the world we actually see around us than some touchy-feely idea about universal love.
If we observe nature from a survivalist perspective, it’s easy to see competition, struggle, and dominance. But when we step back, we notice something more profound: nature thrives on balance, cooperation, and interconnectedness. Ecosystems sustain life not because of violence but because of an intricate harmony where every part contributes to the whole. Science takes us further. At the quantum level, reality is not fragmented-it’s unified. Energy fields, not physical matter, form the foundation of existence. In this field, everything is interconnected, and coherence-not chaos-is the organizing principle. Love, in this sense, isn’t “soft” or sentimental; it’s the energy of connection and unity that binds the universe together. Love-true love-is not about "softness" or "weakness." It is the power that sustains the entire universe. It is the reason a mother risks her life for her child. It is the spark of awe we feel in a sunset, the beauty of connection, the cooperation of bees pollinating flowers, the way trees share nutrients through their roots to sustain the forest, and the courage to question the nature of reality. The five senses anchor us to the three-dimensional world. They filter information and give us the illusion of separateness, but they don't show us the true, unified nature of reality. To experience “Ultimate Reality,” we need to transcend the sensory-based mind. Quantum physics teaches us that matter at its core is energy, vibrating at different frequencies. The act of observation collapses the wave function into particles, meaning our consciousness is integral to how we experience the world. What we perceive through our senses is a limited slice of the infinite possibilities available in the quantum field. As for pain and power, consider this: pain is a teacher, not a truth. It pushes evolution forward, but it’s not the end goal. True power isn’t dominance-it’s creation. When we shift from survival states like fear and anger to elevated emotions like love and gratitude, we tap into a higher intelligence that transcends the primitive struggles of the past. So, is reality harsh or loving? Ultimately, it reflects what you bring to it. Align with survival, and you’ll see struggle. Align with creation, and you’ll discover the profound, organizing force of love at the heart of everything. That’s not just philosophy-it’s physics.
Jesus Christ warned people about the reality of Hell repeatedly. He does not want people in Hell, so he will forgive your sins if you turn to him and trust in him for forgiveness! He did indeed come back to life - see the new research on "The Shroud Of Turin".
@@InnerLuminosity This is not what the Bible says, and I know for a fact the Bible is correct. Satan deceives as an angel of light, be very careful. Jesus spoke of hell as “eternal fire” (Matt. 25:41) and “eternal punishment” (Matt. 25:46). In Matthew 25:46, the same word-eternal-is used to describe eternal life for the righteous and the eternal punishment of hell for the unrighteous. According to Jesus, hell will be eternal.
Why or what would you say about the direction of the world and the vanity and the increasing evil and disgusting acts that humans are displaying along with more satanic worship more open and of course satanic rituals and esoteric, knowledge or imagery, sprinkled into movies in???
Also this agenda to be trans human to delete male and female sides and this agenda to let’s gays and trags to push there beliefs In everyone’s face including children???
The idea of conscious eternal torment as advocated by certain relgious groups, and most especially Christian fundamentalists, is one of the most depressing beliefs ever created. For one thing, the existence of hell can neither be confirmed or disproved, which means it comes under the classifiaction of "unfalsifiable inerrancy."
@@majormayco Thank you for sharing your perspective. My concern isn't about wanting to believe one thing while ignoring another; it's about questioning the logic and morality of eternal punishment. If eternal life is meant to reflect the ultimate expression of love and justice, then eternal damnation seems to contradict those principles. Why would a finite existence with finite mistakes warrant infinite consequences? It’s a question worth considering thoughtfully, rather than dismissing others as ignorant.
@ludwigvanbeethoven5005 Do you know the LORD, the Almighty God at all, and have you read the scriptures? I can see you've clearly stated that you're reasoning out of logic. Do you know why the scriptures say, "The natural man cannot receive the things of the spirit, nor can he know them because they are spiritually discerned"?
@@majormayco The idea that a loving Creator would condemn the vast majority of mankind to conscious eternal torment does not make sense to me, and I suspect it doesn’t make sense to the vast majority of Christians either (since most are not fundamentalists). While I understand your point about spiritual truths being spiritually discerned (1 Corinthians 2:14), this shouldn’t mean we abandon logic or reason altogether when discussing God’s nature and His purposes. In fact, the Bible consistently portrays God as both loving and just, inviting us to reason with Him. As Isaiah 1:18 says, *"Come now, let us reason together," says the Lord. "Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red as crimson, they shall be like wool."* If God is love (1 John 4:8), how could He create billions of souls, knowing the vast majority would suffer eternal torment? This portrayal seems incompatible with the character of God revealed in Scripture, where mercy triumphs over judgment (James 2:13). Even Jesus, in teaching about judgment, emphasizes restoration and reconciliation over destruction (Luke 15:4-7, the parable of the lost sheep). Moreover, if spiritual truths are so complex that only a select few can discern them, does that not contradict the simplicity of the Gospel? Jesus declared in Matthew 11:28, *"Come to me, all who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest."* The invitation to salvation is extended universally, not reserved for those with a special capacity for spiritual insight. The concept of eternal conscious torment also undermines God’s justice. Punishment must fit the crime (Deuteronomy 25:3, Luke 12:47-48), and eternal suffering for finite sins seems disproportionate to the loving, just character of God. A more biblically consistent view might be annihilation (the total destruction of the wicked) or ultimate restoration, as some Christians believe, both of which align more closely with God’s love and justice. Finally, while the natural man cannot fully receive the things of the Spirit (1 Corinthians 2:14), this doesn’t mean we should set aside reason or conscience when thinking about God. Reason and faith go hand in hand, as seen in Acts 17:2-3, where Paul reasoned with others about the truth of Christ. Jesus Himself encouraged people to consider evidence, saying in John 10:37-38, *"If I do not do the works of my Father, do not believe me. But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father."* In summary, a loving Creator condemning most of humanity to eternal conscious torment is a doctrine that contradicts both reason and the biblical portrayal of God. The Gospel is a message of hope, reconciliation, and restoration, and I believe that is the heart of God’s plan for humanity.
@ludwigvanbeethoven5005 God can NEVER change His word, and NEVER goes by such carnal human perspectives under any circumstances. He has made it clear in His word that the righteous will inherit eternal life but the wicked will be punished eternally. The Lord Jesus was not bluffing when He said of the wicked in Matthew 25:46 that, "And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” Or you think after some time the LORD will change His mind and pardon the wicked souls and admit them to heaven?
FALSE GARMENTS WERE GIVEN TO THE SPIRIT SO IT CAN EXPERIENCE EVERY EXPERIENCES GOODNESS OR BADNESS HUMAN BIRTH IS NOT COMING FROM GOODNESS ALONE, OR BADNESS ALONE, ACTUALLY IT IS THE COMBINATION OF ALL GOODNESS N BADNESS DONE LIFE AFTER LIFE SEEKING FOR GOD IS ONLY DONE IN A HUMAN BODY ONLY
Wow why on earth would you say that? Do you really believe God loves everyone? Well he dont and never has. The bible clearly states that beyond a doubt. God doesn't plan on saving everyone either. How many times have you died and came back now? Im just curious did you get one of those tshirts you know the one that said i died and all i got was this stupid shirt? Or the afterlife was so boring i came back to have a crap life die and do it all over again because i dont remember my past life life.
What does a person in their last life look like? Could they be just the average looking guy you see on the bus? Or is he this totally zenned out guru type acting like he is a king or something floating on clouds, feet never touching the ground? This is all BS to me. There is only one King and we are not it.
The bible has been added to abd taken away nobody truly knows what the bible is,because it was past down from years and years .evil people changed it there all kinds of remixes to the bible that's why I took one scripture on my heart philippians 4:13 out of the 1611 king James. I mastered it so I would always have one scripture,on my heart ,it gives me power abd strength ,only the small few undstand what this means .but your not to supposed to think on any thing bad . But think on good things keep your eyes on the pize jesus told me the bible has been altered,look at all the churches there all fake the one true church is in your heart,if there is so many churches they all belive different, they don't study to show there self approved, they have a form of godliness. But there heart is far from.it..I was tortured with the hole he'll thing growing up in church,there is only a very small few that are truly annoited,by jesus,.
You teach the heresy of universalism, which was anathematized by the ancient Church. Universalism is Platonism, not biblical. See my article "On Eternal Hell," linked in my Community section. You directly contradict divinely revealed teaching, so place yourself under anathema. Christ had far greater credentials than you, and God vindicated Jesus' teachings when he raised him from the dead. God would not raise a heretic or a liar. God never vindicated you on anything.
Lol no. This is new age BS. There is a heaven and hell and there is 1 way to heaven......period. I say it's new age because the goal in your stated framework is to eventually become your own God. God doesn't take. Kindly to that. Hell is simply pure and utter separation from him. You don't want to be with him? Then he can't force you. He loves you enough that he won't force you to be with him for eternity. But God IS love. God IS good so when you are separated from him there is no hope there is no happiness. There is no joy because those things all come from God. This idea that you are above everything because you believe in some new age reincarnation BS is leading people to a false sense of reality. It's not only incorrect but it is morally apprehensible to try and teach people that this is what happens.
That was the vally of gehenna he was talking about a real place where they would burn trash and do executions and in the 3rd century early christian leaders used hell as a tool to get people in their blood cult theres no mentioning of a place like hell in the greek and hebrew translations only the western
@@IMSTTVV Then you will hear this. Matthew 7:23 “And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” Starting a relationship with Jesus is easy but MANY have passed on it because they love sin.
@@joostpudlo Revelation 21:8 KJV 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Matthew 10:28 KJV 28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Matthew 25:46 KJV 46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Man, sadly I wanted what you say to be true months ago. Look it out for yourself: hell testimonies. Look each one and judge for yourself. Hell's a real place where real people are going right now for eternal torment for their unrepentant sin and unbelief in Jesus Christ. My man, It's the truth
Read the Bible, you are a false prophet. I will pray for you and everyone that watches this to seek after the truth. We have a loving savior that came to earth and died for our sins and if we profess him as our savior and our Lord we will have eternal life with him, the father and the spirit in heaven for eternity. May you be blessed to know the truth
You rather believe a story than pure consciousness itself? Have you ever sat with your own being in silence? Have you ever marveled at your own existence without words? God is ineffable because it is beyond words, it is a living truth that doesn’t need to be defended, it is being itself. It can only be known when you let go of all your beliefs, and experience it. The devil lives in the mind, not the heart.
He used to be a preacher and all he got out the matrix u believe in go within and find out for yourself and stop listening to your preacher you have the same power that he has
@ProfoundOneSpeaks It's convincing precisely because it's _not_ attractive. What I mean is: Pascal's Wager. If the consequences of not following Christianity are too horrible to imagine enduring, then anyone would be crazy to risk not following it. I don't believe it either, but I'm wrong.
As heaven Is eternal so Is hell. You think you dont deserve eternal happiness for obeying God In simple things, the same way you think you dont deserve eternal punishment for not obeying God. Repent AND obey Is the wise thing to do.
You directly contradict Christ and St. Paul. They both taught that hell is eternal. You are preaching a false gospel and fall under the anathema of Galatians 1.
Christ and Paul never mentioned anything about hell. You should watch my videos on hell. I’ve made several where I explain this. If your interested in understanding why I believe what I believe about hell, watch my videos titled “Rethinking Hell,” “How and Why The Church Invented Hell,” and “Jesus Never Taught About Hell.” Those are just some of them. Btw, I believed in hell all of my life. I also believed Jesus and Paul taught about hell like you are saying until I learned what I explain in these videos. I’ve studied the Bible extensively and I have Bachelor’s Degree in Christian Theology.
@LoganBarone Do you really believe that? How do you understand Jesus' statement of people going into everlasting punishment in Matthew 25? He used the Greek term aionios, which means eternal (punishment). St. Paul spoke of everlasting punishment in 2 Thess 1. I can give many examples. If there is no hell, what did Jesus die to save us from?
@LoganBarone Christ: “Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:” (Matt. 7:13). In verses 13 and 14, the fate of the wicked is designated apolei. Thayer defines this term as "The loss of eternal life, eternal misery"...(Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon, p. 71).
@@NightShade671 I address that in the videos I mentioned to you-“Rethinking Hell” and “Jesus Never Taught About Hell.” I also highly recommend my video “How and Why The Church Invented Hell.” Also, I can recommend some great books on this topic if you’re interested.
What do you think happens to the soul after death?
You go to an astral plane of existence.
@ I agree! Have you read Autobiography of a Yogi?
Universal restoration.
@LoganBarone how do you know that everyone will eventually awaken?
@LoganBarone no, but I will check it out. I'm sure it will be interesting.
You are SPOT ON!
"And all flesh shall see the salvation of God" - Luke 3:6
Yes! Thanks for watching❤️🙏
My story: Hell is Here and Now! I married the wrong man and was in Hell my whole life. Jesus has Shown me. I was blaming him for not appreciating me..but it was MY Choice..I married him and had his children who never appreciated me either. I chose my OWN Hell. I am Now Forgiving me and everyone who this affected. Hard Life Lesson! I am 80. Jesus Helped me Out! With FORGIVENESS..no one will be in Hell forever. 😊❤
Wow! Thank you so much for sharing that❤️ I’m glad to hear that you’ve been able to work through all of that and have persevered. Forgiveness is not something we do for others; it is the act of releasing ourselves from the bondage of judgment and resentment, which have a lot to do with the "hell" we experience here on earth. When we forgive, we let go of the storylines that fuel our own hell, and in that letting go, we rediscover the heaven that has always been here, waiting within us.
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Thank You! I had people before I was married who Loved me. I am looking forward to seeing them again..in Heaven.
What are you talking about??????
Christian’s say Jews Buddhists Muslims Hindus automatically go to hell by default because Jesus only likes Christian’s because Jesus is a Christian
So say Christian’s
Who exactly are you talking about forgiving??
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AnyOne and EveryOne. Christians read what they Want to read. Jesus Loved the Samaritans..who were Israel’s worst enemy. And He Demonstrated it numerous times. One reason He was hated and Hung by the Christians of that day.
Forgiveness of self is sooo important and then Forgiveness of others. So glad you came to this insight. I lived HELL also...but in 3 failed marriages and children by two of them. Thankful for what I've learned on this journey and continue to learn and evolve.
God bless! ❤️
This Life is a spiritual classroom , not a courtroom!
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Hell and heaven are within you, both gates are within you.
When you are behaving unconsciously there is the gate of hell; when you become alert and conscious, there is the gate of heaven.
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Good afternoon, Logan. Early one Saturday morning back in September of 2016, I was awaken by Source (God) and led to grab my dictionary off my nightstand and look up the meaning of the word "wretch," and once I discovered the true definition of the word, three things happened: #1, I quit viewing myself and humanity as a wretch (an unfortunate, unlucky and unhappy person, whereby I could no longer feel comfortable singing the hymn 'Amazing Grace'); #2, I gave up my belief in a literal devil; and #3, I was fully convinced that if there was no devil, then there also was no hell.
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Beautifully said, Logan. I am passing this on. Thank you for sharing your insight and for blessing us. 🙏🏻😊
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This is so good. I've already sent so many people your way Logan, because it's just so hard for me to explain, although I try and I try hard. Thanks for another amazing podcast.
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Beautiful words my brother ❤
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Our past and history have the answers but the key is within us
I was sitting here trying to work out what is life really all about. And just came across your video....thanks 😊
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This guy is still living a human life.
It's not about getting out of hell, it's that a hell exists at all.
Right, there is no “hell” as a place of eternal punishment in the afterlife.
@@LoganBarone If fits the religious narrative perfectly though. Maximum carrot, maximum stick for the low low price of your soul.
Yep.
When I heard the message, "as if the infinite God which created the entire universe and your whole life would do anything to judge or punish you at all but love you unconditionally as if you were the only creation God ever made" rings so true that I tear up everytime I hear it
@@ZenWithKen
The same religions tell you to turn off logic and believe that Adam's children f--ked each other to produce humanity and that God makes certain insects agonize while other insects eggs grow in them
Basic logic says no piece of consciousness stays for ever cut off from cosmic consciousness.
God's light is what absolute not anyone's presence in hell.
Thank you. Relief.
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SOUL OR SPIRIT IS ALWAYS PERFECT, IT DOES NOT CARRIES SINS OR KARMAS... THE MIND CARRIES KARMAS OR SINS..
OUR TRUESELF WE ARE NOT THE MIND, BODY AND 5 SENSORY PERCEPTIONS,, WE ARE BEYOND
But it takes so long... my Lord!
Very Observant, my friend
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I get a witness to this.good stuff.
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But about reincarnation, where does your identity go, I don't understand this, like when I wake up in the morning, I still have John as my identity, thanks for the video,
The identity you hold on to is like a well-worn sweater: familiar, comforting, but not truly you. When you wake up each morning, it's as if you slip back into that sweater, thinking it defines you. Reincarnation is simply the shedding of one sweater and putting on another, but the essence of you-the awareness behind the sweater-remains untouched. The "you" that wakes up each morning is just a ripple in the ocean of your being, a temporary form of something eternal. The deeper truth is that your identity is not something you have to find or lose; it’s what you realize you’ve always been beyond name, form, or even lifetimes.
If you study nde s you may get a better idea of the whole idea of reincarnation and tge evolution of the soul.
i dont believe in reincarnation since there is no evidence for it whatsoever
Lovs and peace ❤
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I do aspire to Attaining to the higher Planes above the Astral Plane - a long journey but far from being a chore. It is all about Progress which I have heard defined as 'A continual dawning' and 'Ever-broadening horizons' as you return to the Source from whence you came. There is a lovely line at the end of the Light of Asia (by Edwin Arnold), which attempts to express this: "The dewdrop slips into the shining sea".
Hi logan! I want to ask if a person is bad or evil. Then he will be who he is in every reincarnation, how can same person be good and then suddenly be bad or evil in his next birth? He will never join higher consciousness, perhaps?
I love your message, brother. Very encouraging. Comforting. Warming. Thank you
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Lamentation 3:31 "For the Lord will not cast off for ever:"
All is well.
What is happening was already decided from the very beginning at the singularity at the level of the Source. The goal is ti give everyone free will. So the book of Joel states that all flesh, including animals, will be given the spirit of god. This means in effect that everyone will be born again.
Micah 4:5 states that the new society will be a pluralistic society, in that all nations and people will follow their own gods and the people around the city in question, will follow the lord. This means that the law that goes forth from Jerusalem, will be one of love and freedom. This whole ordeal that humanity has gone through over millions and billions of years, meaning from the minutest organism to humanity, is in order to turn hell into heaven and heaven into hell.
Isa 33:14 "The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?"
Isa 33:15 "He that walketh righteously, and speaketh uprightly; he that despiseth the gain of oppressions, that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes, that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood, and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil;"
So all chaotic evil people will go to the heaven of light with the dragon of revelation 12, and they will turn the universe of light into a universe of darkness. This must be done, because this mirror reality is stuck in Reversed Time in accordance with the CPT Symmetry Principle.
The Lawful good will go to the heaven of the universe of darkness, aka hell, and will turn that universe, our universe, into a universe of light.
Thus the division in the world between Chaotic Evil and Lawful good, that follow Yahweh the dragon, or Christ, will leave the majority of earths population outside, meaning the meek and those that seek righteousness, will remain on earth. Earth will be divided into two parts, a kingdom of light and a kingdom of darkness, and people will be happy in either of these places, depending on who they are as people.
It is written that the kingdom of god (That speaks both good and evil according to Lamentation 3:38 "Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good?") will fill the entire earth. When the sepration is complete, the Lawful good and the Chaotic evil will be removed from earth and go to their respective heavens.
They will stay away for a thousand years. Then they will come back to earth, and the preparation for the new creation of the entire cosmos is set.
THE HIGHEST ACT OF FREE WILL IS SEEKING GOD IN A HUMAN BIRTH. EVEN IN HEAVENS WE CAN T SEEK GOD THERE BECAUSE WE LOOSES OUR FREE WILL THERE
more exquisite truth that sets us free belovedivine! yep, the well is deep. i wuv julian of norwich as well
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I have wondered about the unfairless of eternal hell since primary school. How can God be fair when he sends you to be punished forever for the most insignificant sin like eating of the fruit of knowledge .. while the old testament describes God as a vengeful dare I say phychopathic and narcassistic entity. I no longer believe this and I have inner peace, but see others suffering anxiety due to these beliefs.
Exactly!
Agreed.
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Amazing vid! Is your partner on the same theological wavelength?
Yes!
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Question about unity consciousness. The AA 12 is about surrendering to a higher power of your own understanding. The first 3 steps are basically, I can’t, He can, I’ll let Him. So, are we the higher power, the higher power out “there”, or we are inside the higher power and it in us? Are we surrendering to ourselves?
The essence of surrender is about dissolving the illusion of separation-separation between “you” and the Higher Power. When you say, “I can’t, He can, I’ll let Him,” you are stepping out of the ego’s limited story of control and allowing the deeper truth of Being to guide you.
Are we the Higher Power? Yes-and no. The Higher Power isn’t something out there; it’s not even “in here” in the way the mind tries to grasp. It simply is, and we are expressions of it, like waves on the ocean. Surrender is about resting in that recognition, where the small self softens and melts into the larger self, which has been here all along. It’s not about “surrendering to ourselves” but realizing that there was never anything separate to begin with.
Thank you. I sent an email about coaching to your website info@ address, but never heard anything back
I apologize for the late response. I sent you a reply yesterday.
@ I replied back to your email. Should I be using a different email?
Exactly 💯 its like they put humanity under a spell or something
I had my spiritual awakening in my early 60's after being a life long soft atheist. Since I awakened within this lifetime, I hope I'm nearing the end of the required lessons and I can choose not to incarnate here again, or maybe incarnate somewhere for a little fun the next time around. 😁
Hello, question for anyone seeing this… uh, so we all headed back to “Source” or “Oneness” to do exactly what once we’re there?? Never mind, no one knows.
If you don't wake up in this lifetime then what's the point in this lifetime when you won't even remember it.
Your soul will remember it & benefit from it. It's only here on Earth we don't remember & there is a reason for that. Look up the veil of forgetfulness.
Me in Hell: "But why am I here? There isn't supposed to be a Hell!!!"
Satan: "Who told you there was no Hell?"
Me: "Some video I watched on You Tube"
Satan: BWAH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Unfortunately it's true. I commited something terrible that hurt people maybe even worse... and I lost my soul. Dont tell me its impossible, it is. We are part soul, flesh and spirit. But our soul are a part/spark of God, light, love. And because I hurt people I lost the privilege of being part of the whole. Months after this the devil/beast loterally grabbed my back and told me "you should have been careful I own you now" and licked me behind my left ear. 4 years. No soul for 4 years. Its agony. Thats damnation. Being completely cut off. Recently I have more and more visions of hell. God's judgment. Research soul death. You are lost forever. Without a soul you cannot be grafted back to Source anymore. Thus the eternal torment because spirits are eternal. I miss my soul. But I made a terrible thing. Wish I could go back.
Sons of perdition. Perdition means utter loss of the soul. Exactly what happened to me.
The only thing that helped me was repenting to the holy Spirit, and yes I lost my soul too.. I remember the ones who looked at me from family, now looked away, I blasphemed the holy Spirit and didn't realize why my soul was lost, I'm repenting the rest of days through life, I didn't ever hurt anyone but I had very ill thoughts, I felt those things laughing in me, feeling pleasure, it wasn't God's grace, a testimony to those. Hate the sin not the person.. this is the trick devil uses, we judge and hate others only to be like Satan himself
Lifeforms are what created it all. Life in this realm is an experience & learning process. That includes all life in the Universe. Reincarnation? Yes & it means each one here will or already has been Queen Elizabeth the 1st. Past, present & future mean nothing. Each person here will or already has lived as a starving child in North Korea or somewhere in Africa. You will also live as whichever politicians you like or dislike. You will live as every bird & every tree. Once you've lived every experience on this planet, you will do so on every other planet. Each time you leave, you will visit with those who are not currently in this reality. That's the walk but it doesn't ever end. Once this universe is done, it starts again in a different way & it's forever. YOU created it all to start with because you never had a beginning in the spiritual realm. You always existed & always will.
I agree there is no eternal hell. I'm a Christian Universalist. I just believe there are consequences for evil. I believe there is no level of awakening.
Do you believe in karma?
@LoganBarone Yes. I believe in God energy also.
@MannyMonarch216 you know the Bible says the smoke of their tourment ascends for ever and ever right?
@@Jesuslordoflords-y4m smoke is not fire. Smoke is air/spirit.
@MannyMonarch216 the air of their tourment? Stop believing in nonsense. There is a real burning hell where people go to forever.
i'm not sure what to believe, there is a man in america who says he has been to hell because God sent him there to show him what hell is like because he must warn people that everybody who dous not pray to God and Jesus goes to hell, what do you think about this man?
My next video will be about hell and near death experiences.
I would like to believe you because it sounds great,but I went to catholic school raised by Dominican nuns hell is ingrained in my psyche, but thanks anyway!😢
I attended Catholic school as well. Later, I became an evangelical and decided to pursue full-time ministry. I even earned a Bachelor’s Degree in Christian Theology. Despite years of heavy indoctrination and subconscious programming, I was able to deprogram from Christian fundamentalism and break free from the belief system that had disempowered me and prevented me from experiencing true liberation. If anyone understands what it’s like to be indoctrinated with religious dogma, it’s me.
Now, I dedicate my life to helping people walk away from toxic religion and let go of fundamentalist doctrines such as hell, original sin, biblical inerrancy, and more. I would love the opportunity to chat with you and share more about what I do and how I support others on their journey of deconstruction and reconstruction.
Is this something you would be interested in? I truly believe I can help you release the deeply ingrained belief in hell, which often carries with it overwhelming fear, anxiety, and guilt.
@@LoganBarone thank you for sharing this. I came from a family of pastors.. it's not easy, sharing my awakening and being seen as a "backslider that has embraced new age cult". In people's eyes, I'm lost. I used to lead worship and speak for youth and young professionals. Telling them I stopped praying since 2021 (transitioning) and awakened in 2019, they were very concerned about my salvation.
Do you think that the apostle Paul had this view of hell? There are many critics of Paul that modern Christianity is actually "Paulism" and not true Christianity as there are quite a few Paul's teachings that contradict Jesus teachings! I think that this accepted version of Hell was a product of Paul's views.
I'm sure you will be there to guarantee it is so.
Hell never made any sense to me. Simple math. No matter how much evil one committed in his 70-80 years of life on Earth, spending eternity is perpetual punishment is wildly disproportional. Even if you have to spend a billion years in hell for even every mildly bad thought you had during your life, at some point your punishment should end.
Exactly. The notion of eternal hell is completely irrational. It was made up to control people by instilling fear into them.
'All shall be well', only applies, if you believe that everything is neutral and neutral equalls well. Its more accurate to say that life is going to be mostly pain and suffering for most people and very little fulfillment. I doubt that everyone eventually awakens. Its more realistic to say that there will always be less than 1% of the population that is awakened. So if everything were to suddenly end, over 99% of the current population would never awaken, cause its all over. I doubt there is any big shift in consciousness level that is imminent. Thats a popular topic for videos, but there is no evidence of it.
I don't think anyone, thru the entire history of the human race has "known" what the truth is. All we have are guesses and philosophies to go on. There is no way to prove reincarnation, or any type of afterlife. Now I chose to believe in a higher power that is the source of everything. I chose to hope there is something better than this horrible existence beyond. But those are chosen beliefs, not something I can absolutely prove, even to myself. I have good results from prayer and meditation, and am thankful for all the good things that happen, and try to work thru guilt and regret. I don't believe any organized religion as a whole. When you dig down they all seem the same.
Do you know about Samadhi and OBEs?
There is a reason for the Kingdom of Heaven being within because it's of the same nature as subjective experience : it's not subject to falsifiable empirical observation.
@@remani7540 I will look it up, thanks.
Why would we leave home, come here to forget who we are and incarnate over and over undoing all the Karma we made not knowing who we are being born into a terrible place where we either kill or be killed, eat or and be eaten? Birth in this world means trauma.
Good news : Hell is not forever.
Bad news : The Lake of Fire is.
Good News - Hell is not real nor the lake of fire. It only exists in Christianity's Gospel of Fear.
@TheWatcher-1960 Good News: JESUS CHRIST🩸YAHSHUA of Nazareth saves souls from perishing into Hell and the Lake of Fire which you deny.
Bad news: You are currently on the wide road that leads to Hell and to the Lake of Fire which you vehemently deny.
Repent and call upon JESUS CHRIST of Nazareth and be saved by He Who loves you and does want you to perish.
Romans 10:9-10.
@@GDeanG1963 Preaching the Gospel of Fear. You try to scare people into believing your dogmas. Typical Religionist...
Sometimes i think eternal hell is more likely to be real precisely because it is undesirable and horrific. In any case, why do we assume that reality must be something that we would want to be true?
What would be the purpose of eternal hell?
@LoganBarone I have no idea. But if the creator of the universe decides it has to be so, then I guess it has to exist. Something about God's holiness? I don't understand it either. But I can't assume it's not true just because I don't understand it. And I can't assume reality must ultimately be anything I might want it to be.
Because you're thinking in terms of "it's too good to be true!" But all enlightened mystics realise that only Goodness beyond measure is True, and that is also my direct experience, anything otherwise is now simply and very obviously ego programming
@benjaminchew8442 I hope you're right. I guess we'll find out
Because that what would 100℅ free will implies : you chose what kind of scenario you play, its rules and the meta-rules for realizing what the game is
It doesn't make metaphysical sense either : God's love is the only constant, not anyone's presence in hell.
How can a drop of consciousness be eternally cut off cosmic consciousness?
Eternal hell is nothing but to be in the cycles of birth and death on earth.
Why do we assume.ultimate reality is about love or anything positive? When we look at nature, all we see is animals killing each other and struggling for dominance. If we assume reality is good and soft and loving, it may be just because we've become soft through living in a decadent modern world far removed from the harsh reality that our ancestors knew for all human history, and our animals forebears for millions of years before that. The idea that life is about groveling before power, and power is that which gives pain -- that is far more in line with the world we actually see around us than some touchy-feely idea about universal love.
If we observe nature from a survivalist perspective, it’s easy to see competition, struggle, and dominance. But when we step back, we notice something more profound: nature thrives on balance, cooperation, and interconnectedness. Ecosystems sustain life not because of violence but because of an intricate harmony where every part contributes to the whole.
Science takes us further. At the quantum level, reality is not fragmented-it’s unified. Energy fields, not physical matter, form the foundation of existence. In this field, everything is interconnected, and coherence-not chaos-is the organizing principle. Love, in this sense, isn’t “soft” or sentimental; it’s the energy of connection and unity that binds the universe together. Love-true love-is not about "softness" or "weakness." It is the power that sustains the entire universe. It is the reason a mother risks her life for her child. It is the spark of awe we feel in a sunset, the beauty of connection, the cooperation of bees pollinating flowers, the way trees share nutrients through their roots to sustain the forest, and the courage to question the nature of reality.
The five senses anchor us to the three-dimensional world. They filter information and give us the illusion of separateness, but they don't show us the true, unified nature of reality. To experience “Ultimate Reality,” we need to transcend the sensory-based mind. Quantum physics teaches us that matter at its core is energy, vibrating at different frequencies. The act of observation collapses the wave function into particles, meaning our consciousness is integral to how we experience the world. What we perceive through our senses is a limited slice of the infinite possibilities available in the quantum field.
As for pain and power, consider this: pain is a teacher, not a truth. It pushes evolution forward, but it’s not the end goal. True power isn’t dominance-it’s creation. When we shift from survival states like fear and anger to elevated emotions like love and gratitude, we tap into a higher intelligence that transcends the primitive struggles of the past.
So, is reality harsh or loving? Ultimately, it reflects what you bring to it. Align with survival, and you’ll see struggle. Align with creation, and you’ll discover the profound, organizing force of love at the heart of everything. That’s not just philosophy-it’s physics.
You assume we didn't chose beforehand what kind of life we would incarnate into by willful self-limitation
Jesus Christ warned people about the reality of Hell repeatedly. He does not want people in Hell, so he will forgive your sins if you turn to him and trust in him for forgiveness! He did indeed come back to life - see the new research on "The Shroud Of Turin".
The kingdom of heaven is WITHIN 😉
@@InnerLuminosity That means that people who believe in Jesus receive the Holy Spirit. This is well known what this means.
@@LexRex717 the Christ is Christ consciousness
@@LexRex717 we are all ONE
@@InnerLuminosity This is not what the Bible says, and I know for a fact the Bible is correct. Satan deceives as an angel of light, be very careful. Jesus spoke of hell as “eternal fire” (Matt. 25:41) and “eternal punishment” (Matt. 25:46). In Matthew 25:46, the same word-eternal-is used to describe eternal life for the righteous and the eternal punishment of hell for the unrighteous. According to Jesus, hell will be eternal.
Why or what would you say about the direction of the world and the vanity and the increasing evil and disgusting acts that humans are displaying along with more satanic worship more open and of course satanic rituals and esoteric, knowledge or imagery, sprinkled into movies in???
Also this agenda to be trans human to delete male and female sides and this agenda to let’s gays and trags to push there beliefs In everyone’s face including children???
The idea of conscious eternal torment as advocated by certain relgious groups, and most especially Christian fundamentalists, is one of the most depressing beliefs ever created. For one thing, the existence of hell can neither be confirmed or disproved, which means it comes under the classifiaction of "unfalsifiable inerrancy."
The ignorant want to believe in eternal life but not eternal damnation. Wisen up!
@@majormayco Thank you for sharing your perspective. My concern isn't about wanting to believe one thing while ignoring another; it's about questioning the logic and morality of eternal punishment. If eternal life is meant to reflect the ultimate expression of love and justice, then eternal damnation seems to contradict those principles. Why would a finite existence with finite mistakes warrant infinite consequences? It’s a question worth considering thoughtfully, rather than dismissing others as ignorant.
@ludwigvanbeethoven5005
Do you know the LORD, the Almighty God at all, and have you read the scriptures? I can see you've clearly stated that you're reasoning out of logic. Do you know why the scriptures say, "The natural man cannot receive the things of the spirit, nor can he know them because they are spiritually discerned"?
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The idea that a loving Creator would condemn the vast majority of mankind to conscious eternal torment does not make sense to me, and I suspect it doesn’t make sense to the vast majority of Christians either (since most are not fundamentalists).
While I understand your point about spiritual truths being spiritually discerned (1 Corinthians 2:14), this shouldn’t mean we abandon logic or reason altogether when discussing God’s nature and His purposes. In fact, the Bible consistently portrays God as both loving and just, inviting us to reason with Him. As Isaiah 1:18 says, *"Come now, let us reason together," says the Lord. "Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red as crimson, they shall be like wool."*
If God is love (1 John 4:8), how could He create billions of souls, knowing the vast majority would suffer eternal torment? This portrayal seems incompatible with the character of God revealed in Scripture, where mercy triumphs over judgment (James 2:13). Even Jesus, in teaching about judgment, emphasizes restoration and reconciliation over destruction (Luke 15:4-7, the parable of the lost sheep).
Moreover, if spiritual truths are so complex that only a select few can discern them, does that not contradict the simplicity of the Gospel? Jesus declared in Matthew 11:28, *"Come to me, all who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest."* The invitation to salvation is extended universally, not reserved for those with a special capacity for spiritual insight.
The concept of eternal conscious torment also undermines God’s justice. Punishment must fit the crime (Deuteronomy 25:3, Luke 12:47-48), and eternal suffering for finite sins seems disproportionate to the loving, just character of God. A more biblically consistent view might be annihilation (the total destruction of the wicked) or ultimate restoration, as some Christians believe, both of which align more closely with God’s love and justice.
Finally, while the natural man cannot fully receive the things of the Spirit (1 Corinthians 2:14), this doesn’t mean we should set aside reason or conscience when thinking about God. Reason and faith go hand in hand, as seen in Acts 17:2-3, where Paul reasoned with others about the truth of Christ. Jesus Himself encouraged people to consider evidence, saying in John 10:37-38, *"If I do not do the works of my Father, do not believe me. But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father."*
In summary, a loving Creator condemning most of humanity to eternal conscious torment is a doctrine that contradicts both reason and the biblical portrayal of God. The Gospel is a message of hope, reconciliation, and restoration, and I believe that is the heart of God’s plan for humanity.
@ludwigvanbeethoven5005
God can NEVER change His word, and NEVER goes by such carnal human perspectives under any circumstances. He has made it clear in His word that the righteous will inherit eternal life but the wicked will be punished eternally.
The Lord Jesus was not bluffing when He said of the wicked in Matthew 25:46 that,
"And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
Or you think after some time the LORD will change His mind and pardon the wicked souls and admit them to heaven?
FALSE GARMENTS WERE GIVEN TO THE SPIRIT SO IT CAN EXPERIENCE EVERY EXPERIENCES GOODNESS OR BADNESS
HUMAN BIRTH IS NOT COMING FROM GOODNESS ALONE, OR BADNESS ALONE, ACTUALLY IT IS THE COMBINATION OF ALL GOODNESS N BADNESS DONE LIFE AFTER LIFE
SEEKING FOR GOD IS ONLY DONE IN A HUMAN BODY ONLY
So Jesus lied ??
It’s amazing how all of these experiences attack the teachings of the Bible
Jesus told us it’s the fathers will that all would be saved
Wow why on earth would you say that? Do you really believe God loves everyone? Well he dont and never has. The bible clearly states that beyond a doubt. God doesn't plan on saving everyone either. How many times have you died and came back now? Im just curious did you get one of those tshirts you know the one that said i died and all i got was this stupid shirt? Or the afterlife was so boring i came back to have a crap life die and do it all over again because i dont remember my past life life.
What does a person in their last life look like? Could they be just the average looking guy you see on the bus? Or is he this totally zenned out guru type acting like he is a king or something floating on clouds, feet never touching the ground? This is all BS to me. There is only one King and we are not it.
SPIRIT IS PERFECT DOES NOT EVOLVE... THE FALSE GARMENTS EVOLVE LIFE AFTER LIFE, EXAMPLE MIND, BODY AND OUR SENSORY PERCEPTIONS BODIES
The bible has been added to abd taken away nobody truly knows what the bible is,because it was past down from years and years .evil people changed it there all kinds of remixes to the bible that's why I took one scripture on my heart philippians 4:13 out of the 1611 king James. I mastered it so I would always have one scripture,on my heart ,it gives me power abd strength ,only the small few undstand what this means .but your not to supposed to think on any thing bad . But think on good things keep your eyes on the pize jesus told me the bible has been altered,look at all the churches there all fake the one true church is in your heart,if there is so many churches they all belive different, they don't study to show there self approved, they have a form of godliness. But there heart is far from.it..I was tortured with the hole he'll thing growing up in church,there is only a very small few that are truly annoited,by jesus,.
You teach the heresy of universalism, which was anathematized by the ancient Church. Universalism is Platonism, not biblical. See my article "On Eternal Hell," linked in my Community section. You directly contradict divinely revealed teaching, so place yourself under anathema. Christ had far greater credentials than you, and God vindicated Jesus' teachings when he raised him from the dead. God would not raise a heretic or a liar. God never vindicated you on anything.
Jesus never taught that hell was eternal
So write your own Bible and start a new religion see if it outperforms Christian beliefs
Never
Jesus is Lord, and we will face a judgement. Please repent and turn to Jesus. Please do not believe this! There is only one way- Jesus.
Lol no. This is new age BS. There is a heaven and hell and there is 1 way to heaven......period. I say it's new age because the goal in your stated framework is to eventually become your own God. God doesn't take. Kindly to that. Hell is simply pure and utter separation from him. You don't want to be with him? Then he can't force you. He loves you enough that he won't force you to be with him for eternity. But God IS love. God IS good so when you are separated from him there is no hope there is no happiness. There is no joy because those things all come from God. This idea that you are above everything because you believe in some new age reincarnation BS is leading people to a false sense of reality. It's not only incorrect but it is morally apprehensible to try and teach people that this is what happens.
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Heresies and doctrines of demons. This guy knows nothing, and is speaking from what he thinks and not what God has stipulated in the scriptures.
Seriously , do people still believe in this eternal dmanation lol ?. Its so wrong on multiple levels
Yes, many still do. And yes I agree, the notion of eternal punishment is irrational and wrong on so many levels.
Jesus spoke about hell a lot. MANY of you are going there by choice. How do you make that choice? By not having a relationship with Jesus.
That was the vally of gehenna he was talking about a real place where they would burn trash and do executions and in the 3rd century early christian leaders used hell as a tool to get people in their blood cult theres no mentioning of a place like hell in the greek and hebrew translations only the western
What if someone desperately wants to but they can’t believe as hard as they try
@@IMSTTVV Then you will hear this.
Matthew 7:23
“And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”
Starting a relationship with Jesus is easy but MANY have passed on it because they love sin.
Jesus didn't speak about hell. He spoke about Gehenna, the garbage dump outside Jerusalem. He was speaking in methaphorical terms.
@@joostpudlo Revelation 21:8 KJV
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Matthew 10:28 KJV
28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matthew 25:46 KJV
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Man, sadly I wanted what you say to be true months ago. Look it out for yourself: hell testimonies. Look each one and judge for yourself. Hell's a real place where real people are going right now for eternal torment for their unrepentant sin and unbelief in Jesus Christ. My man, It's the truth
Read the Bible, you are a false prophet. I will pray for you and everyone that watches this to seek after the truth. We have a loving savior that came to earth and died for our sins and if we profess him as our savior and our Lord we will have eternal life with him, the father and the spirit in heaven for eternity. May you be blessed to know the truth
Truth....pffft.
As a Christian myself! The ideas of ever lasting tormenting in a world where no one can claim they are 💯 right. Never made sense to me.
You rather believe a story than pure consciousness itself? Have you ever sat with your own being in silence? Have you ever marveled at your own existence without words?
God is ineffable because it is beyond words, it is a living truth that doesn’t need to be defended, it is being itself. It can only be known when you let go of all your beliefs, and experience it.
The devil lives in the mind, not the heart.
He used to be a preacher and all he got out the matrix u believe in go within and find out for yourself and stop listening to your preacher you have the same power that he has
@ProfoundOneSpeaks It's convincing precisely because it's _not_ attractive. What I mean is: Pascal's Wager. If the consequences of not following Christianity are too horrible to imagine enduring, then anyone would be crazy to risk not following it.
I don't believe it either, but I'm wrong.
As heaven Is eternal so Is hell. You think you dont deserve eternal happiness for obeying God In simple things, the same way you think you dont deserve eternal punishment for not obeying God. Repent AND obey Is the wise thing to do.
You directly contradict Christ and St. Paul. They both taught that hell is eternal. You are preaching a false gospel and fall under the anathema of Galatians 1.
Christ and Paul never mentioned anything about hell. You should watch my videos on hell. I’ve made several where I explain this. If your interested in understanding why I believe what I believe about hell, watch my videos titled “Rethinking Hell,” “How and Why The Church Invented Hell,” and “Jesus Never Taught About Hell.” Those are just some of them.
Btw, I believed in hell all of my life. I also believed Jesus and Paul taught about hell like you are saying until I learned what I explain in these videos. I’ve studied the Bible extensively and I have Bachelor’s Degree in Christian Theology.
@LoganBarone Do you really believe that? How do you understand Jesus' statement of people going into everlasting punishment in Matthew 25? He used the Greek term aionios, which means eternal (punishment). St. Paul spoke of everlasting punishment in 2 Thess 1. I can give many examples. If there is no hell, what did Jesus die to save us from?
@LoganBarone Christ: “Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:” (Matt. 7:13).
In verses 13 and 14, the fate of the wicked is designated apolei. Thayer defines this term as "The loss of eternal life, eternal misery"...(Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon, p. 71).
@@NightShade671 I address that in the videos I mentioned to you-“Rethinking Hell” and “Jesus Never Taught About Hell.” I also highly recommend my video “How and Why The Church Invented Hell.”
Also, I can recommend some great books on this topic if you’re interested.
@@NightShade671he is deceived. For some people its hard to grasp that people are being tourmented for eternity so they try to explain it away.