They already do that. It’s just there is no champion in the queue at the time so they give you a master as at that moment, they’re the closest rated player. I like the system, but they should stop the elo expanding at 1100 so you always get a champion like previously. Maybe they did this to decrease queue times I’m not sure. Still an awful decision though.
@@if3763could you point me to where geoguessr talked about it's matchmaking system? I must have missed it, because at least till this update is was just by division, and I haven't seen any messages from them about what they changed for matchmaking this update
14:28 hey, that was me! I've been watching your channel for the last few years, I've learned a lot from you. Too bad I haven't learned Canadian insulators yet lol. That round I just looked at the mountain and thought it was in the Carpathians, I don't know why. Anyway, thanks for the content. Cheers!
I don't understand why Geoguessr keeps trying to reinvent the wheel. - Just make a separate queue and ELO system for each game mode. - Only match up with people within 150 ELO rating of each other. (unless you're 1200+, then only match up with others who are 1200+)
As someone in Master division, I really don’t want to be matched up against Champion division players, it nearly almost always results in a loss and it’s extremely uneven skill-wise.
Honestly, it's not even that I'm annoyed because of the losses against much higher rated opponents - it's always a learning experience. What bothers me more is the fact that I know that - they - won't be happy to play against me. It's awkward.
Dude this is seriously such a bad update! I wonder if it’s a panic reaction to less players playing duels overall. Regardless, having a new zi8gzag video break the news to me definitely softens the blow a little!
i am a ~900 elo player and honestly i hate the change. i love playing nmpz in acw and right now nmpz is a bit unplayable for me since im not quite good as terms of skill and aiw is rly hard. it also sucks that im queueing against champion ranks players and im being 2 rounded sometimes. regardless tho, nice vid zig, hope to watch more from the series!
Honestly, I need clarification on this new system. For example, if you only play one game a week and win, your rating will go up, but you may get demoted to another level. So it may be like you're in the bronze division, with a rating 1500. Honestly, I want a petition to remove the new system and return the old one.
A tip about greece is if you see many graffitis with the numbers 7,13,21 its about football teams for like a weird nmpz location on greece and yeah it can help you
This whole update is confusing. I play people who are same elo as me but have a much higher or lower rank. I also finished third on my ladder so it said i ranked up but im still the same rank.
im a 900ish elo who recently got matched up with f (1634), was out in 2 rounds, i lost zero elo because the skill gap was so severe. As a low rated player its chill cause i love the rush of going against the best but from a top players perspective its gotta suck ass
I'm on the other side of this problem and can confirm this is also terrible being on the lower end of the division. My Elo's sitting at 727 but I was placed in Masters 2nd Division, so I get nonstop >900 pairings and get repeatedly stomped. And yet, I'm somehow ranked in the top half of my group for the 2nd week in a row and not at all close to getting demoted??!
The leagues are a step in the right direction but I have been surprised by the range of player ratings faced at Master II level - low 700s up to 1.1k. I've had the pleasure of beating a 1.1k and the frustration of losing to a low 700 player. It's all down to the locations generated - the majority of players have strengths and weaknesses. Softening the damage on knowledge gaps is key! One surprise has been the number of repeat opponents - has anyone else experienced this? In my 20 game week I think I had 4 repeat opponents.
I mean it's just whoever is queing, most ppl play at around the same time every day so it's not surprising considering not many people play comp anyways
it was only 2 weak a go i was thinking that this game is going so strong ,how long until somebody at google tries to adjust the formula and ruins everything .so predictably human ,only question i would have is who are people responsible and what was their motivation ? :)
They do go too far out of the "ranks" but I think that almost can be solved if you just broke Champ into something like Champ I and Champ II. You can only play one "league" up or down max. So a Champ II vs Master I is possible, but Champ I vs Master I is not (essentially you can only play someone from a league you can be relegated or promoted to) As someone who took a long hiatus until recently from the game and came back week one at Gold III (easily promoted first week, 12/20 wins actually wasnt enough week 2 to go to Gold I despite being back to 900 elo) I like it, but I think the most "mismatched" I have got has been Master III
I don't know, I am rated 1,000 and I've beaten 1,4k+ and 1,5+ on NMPZ. I like the change, it makes the stakes higher. On the other hand, I don't like the new system of going a division up or down because now if you do poorly on your first 20 games, there's no hope that you'll go from Master to Champion. Before I had a bigger incentive to play every day as I could possible go to the Champion division.
Opening the potential opponents to other divisions is definitely a fail but they probably did it because of lower player counts after the pay wall was introduced. Either way, definitely sucks.
Not sure how exactly that ranking works, but are you sure not playing the other modes helps your rating more than playing and doing not so great (cause you won't do bad, come on!)?
Because then any player than wins more than loses will be able to reach infinitely elo, it just makes it whoever plays the most duels has the highest elo, if you lose more than you win, you just go to negative elo
Yeah i agree about the map. ACW was fine? And its just too hard now, like im only 800 elo. I did a few duels and it honestly felt like it was coming down to luck rather than skill. Idk man the new system just makes me wanna avoid duels.
wasn't familiar with the format and only played 1 game last week, now im 1568 rated in masters division stuck playing against 800 and 900 rateds every game ☹☠
Its ridiculous in my opinion. Im around 1000 and i ended up in matches against 1.5k + players multiple games in a row, one of them being Pav🤦♂️ not really a chance of me winning
Not that it is your job to fix the queue, but could you ask in some pro Discord for people to queue? If you don't ask anyone specific and you don't talk it shouldn't be sus or anything.
I'm a new player but I've been watching content for a while so I know a decent bit of meta. I decided to give ranked duels a go yesterday and I won 14/16. I wanted to grind and rank up but instead I have to wait 36 hours to get promoted and there's no incentive to keep playing duels since I'm at the top of the division and will only get to play against bronzes. Not a big fan of the new system at the bottom and it looks equally bad at the top. I could win 100/100 duels at bronze and still only get moved to silver III.
petition for the devs to just match you with whoever is closest to your own elo
"the technology just isn't quite there yet"
xD
They already do that. It’s just there is no champion in the queue at the time so they give you a master as at that moment, they’re the closest rated player. I like the system, but they should stop the elo expanding at 1100 so you always get a champion like previously. Maybe they did this to decrease queue times I’m not sure. Still an awful decision though.
Maybe they could do something like "the longer you queue the wider the range of accepted elo is"
That's exactly what they did ?@@miallo
@@if3763could you point me to where geoguessr talked about it's matchmaking system? I must have missed it, because at least till this update is was just by division, and I haven't seen any messages from them about what they changed for matchmaking this update
7:47
opponent waves
zi8gzag: opponent is crying
Also why doesn't he use keyboard shortcuts for emotes 🤔
referencing older video 😭
@@deepfriedfrisbee2678 some extensions like the country streak counter get reset/ incremented/ decremented by pressing the numbers on the keyboard.
14:28 hey, that was me! I've been watching your channel for the last few years, I've learned a lot from you. Too bad I haven't learned Canadian insulators yet lol. That round I just looked at the mountain and thought it was in the Carpathians, I don't know why. Anyway, thanks for the content. Cheers!
I don't understand why Geoguessr keeps trying to reinvent the wheel.
- Just make a separate queue and ELO system for each game mode.
- Only match up with people within 150 ELO rating of each other. (unless you're 1200+, then only match up with others who are 1200+)
The flag that person had on the leaderboard at 7:25 is Martinique.
Correct. However, he's from Quebec and picked it for this reason
@@hhubre to confuse people? interesting
GGs Zig! Sorry to win on that last round
ggs Yanek! Happens like that sometimes
As someone in Master division, I really don’t want to be matched up against Champion division players, it nearly almost always results in a loss and it’s extremely uneven skill-wise.
Honestly, it's not even that I'm annoyed because of the losses against much higher rated opponents - it's always a learning experience. What bothers me more is the fact that I know that - they - won't be happy to play against me. It's awkward.
Why did they change it, it was fine before
money .its always money
Enshittification is so annoying.
companies just dont realise barely anyone likes this type of big changes
I like it ngl
Dude this is seriously such a bad update! I wonder if it’s a panic reaction to less players playing duels overall. Regardless, having a new zi8gzag video break the news to me definitely softens the blow a little!
I'm french and your round in Normandy was indeed really in Normandy
Tell the devs we need ranked team duels desperately
Faxxx
Agreed that would be fire
i am a ~900 elo player and honestly i hate the change. i love playing nmpz in acw and right now nmpz is a bit unplayable for me since im not quite good as terms of skill and aiw is rly hard. it also sucks that im queueing against champion ranks players and im being 2 rounded sometimes. regardless tho, nice vid zig, hope to watch more from the series!
Simply get good
@falcon_224 wasn't "docked elo"
@falcon_224 also what I was saying was clearly a joke and yeah the system is fcked rn
Would it be possible to have some sort of tag like [Road to #1] on the title on this series? Great video!
Honestly, I need clarification on this new system. For example, if you only play one game a week and win, your rating will go up, but you may get demoted to another level. So it may be like you're in the bronze division, with a rating 1500. Honestly, I want a petition to remove the new system and return the old one.
18:20 in the shawn video, kodiak mentioned that that yellow stuff on the roofs is much more of a sumatra type of thing
5:30 lol i actually got this round in a duel and i sent nsw as well, this map for some reason keeps giving repeats.
i smashed i like for red roads 😻
goat
is the cam getting smaller or am i ill in the head
nah yeah i made it a lil smaller
7:19 Lol, Québec isn't a country... Yet. I would love to have the Québec flag next to my name when playing geoguessr
tbf martinique or whatever it is isn’t either heheh
@@zi8gzag True
vive le qc 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Good shit bro. Hope to see u get #1 soon.
im in the video at 6:36 lol, number 1189 on the leaderboard
Staggering amount of Australia this video.
should have trusted the sun on that last round!
petition for someone to make a red road compilation of oscar
A tip about greece is if you see many graffitis with the numbers 7,13,21 its about football teams for like a weird nmpz location on greece and yeah it can help you
This whole update is confusing. I play people who are same elo as me but have a much higher or lower rank. I also finished third on my ladder so it said i ranked up but im still the same rank.
im a 900ish elo who recently got matched up with f (1634), was out in 2 rounds, i lost zero elo because the skill gap was so severe. As a low rated player its chill cause i love the rush of going against the best but from a top players perspective its gotta suck ass
Yea true, if a 900 plays top players, they stand only chance to gain elo, 1600s can only lose elo which isn't rly fair, just don't pair them
I'm not sure what the problem was but I am sure that this map and the duel matching parameters are NOT THE ANSWER!!!
Ive actually lost against a 960 rated guy because it was free rounds untill 6x and i made a slightly worse za guess, lost like 30 elo to that
I'm on the other side of this problem and can confirm this is also terrible being on the lower end of the division. My Elo's sitting at 727 but I was placed in Masters 2nd Division, so I get nonstop >900 pairings and get repeatedly stomped. And yet, I'm somehow ranked in the top half of my group for the 2nd week in a row and not at all close to getting demoted??!
It‘s always gonna be tricky when the mal provides stinkers like that
Somehow I got the California round right at 11:45
I GOT THE MEXICO AT 24:00 TOO!
@7:15 yes it's a Quebec flag
What map is being used now?
Improved World
I know you played low rated players but your guesses were spot on this video
Genuine, qustion do you meme sometimes when you say red road or red soil😂. Like bro, the Ohio round was to my eyes, plane ass brown American soil
"if i would've remembered where it was, then i would've gotten it correct"
yes. 😅
so many nice guesses and yet a sad vibe to the vid :(
What map is multiplayer on now?
What is the new map called? So I can practice it outside of duels
i totally agree, playing masters as a champ makes no sense for either
It does if they're close in elo
@@thesuomi8550big if. I'm at 1000 rating and sick of getting matched vs 1400 players especially on nmpz
The leagues are a step in the right direction but I have been surprised by the range of player ratings faced at Master II level - low 700s up to 1.1k. I've had the pleasure of beating a 1.1k and the frustration of losing to a low 700 player. It's all down to the locations generated - the majority of players have strengths and weaknesses. Softening the damage on knowledge gaps is key!
One surprise has been the number of repeat opponents - has anyone else experienced this? In my 20 game week I think I had 4 repeat opponents.
I mean it's just whoever is queing, most ppl play at around the same time every day so it's not surprising considering not many people play comp anyways
So what are the new maps they use in ranked?
What is the name of the new map?
What is the name of the map?
it was only 2 weak a go i was thinking that this game is going so strong ,how long until somebody at google tries to adjust the formula and ruins everything .so predictably human ,only question i would have is who are people responsible and what was their motivation ? :)
They do go too far out of the "ranks" but I think that almost can be solved if you just broke Champ into something like Champ I and Champ II. You can only play one "league" up or down max. So a Champ II vs Master I is possible, but Champ I vs Master I is not (essentially you can only play someone from a league you can be relegated or promoted to)
As someone who took a long hiatus until recently from the game and came back week one at Gold III (easily promoted first week, 12/20 wins actually wasnt enough week 2 to go to Gold I despite being back to 900 elo) I like it, but I think the most "mismatched" I have got has been Master III
I don't know, I am rated 1,000 and I've beaten 1,4k+ and 1,5+ on NMPZ. I like the change, it makes the stakes higher. On the other hand, I don't like the new system of going a division up or down because now if you do poorly on your first 20 games, there's no hope that you'll go from Master to Champion. Before I had a bigger incentive to play every day as I could possible go to the Champion division.
I like the new league system it gives me a cool competition vibe, but 20 games in a week is very low
what is the new map name?
Opening the potential opponents to other divisions is definitely a fail but they probably did it because of lower player counts after the pay wall was introduced. Either way, definitely sucks.
Does someone know if I buy a month of premium do I get it for 30 days or for the month?🙏🏼
Hey bro keep up the mad content. Cheers from a fellow adelaidian lol
Just do a 10h marathon against 900 rated players and get ~120 rating if you win every game
Problem is you get like +2, and if you forget to guess or ur wifi dies or just get unlucky you get like -30
i believe alex was joking
Why is the city of Tel Aviv number one in the leaderboard?
They might be a cheater their account is hella sus, maybe also it's like geoisreal or smth don't really know
That map is no joke
Not sure how exactly that ranking works, but are you sure not playing the other modes helps your rating more than playing and doing not so great (cause you won't do bad, come on!)?
It all depends on how the new tables compare to ELO. Right now, to me, they don't seem to be very related.
Why wouldn't they just adopt a flat increase and decrease for wins and losses? Someone can explain why thats a bad idea if it is
Because then any player than wins more than loses will be able to reach infinitely elo, it just makes it whoever plays the most duels has the highest elo, if you lose more than you win, you just go to negative elo
Low-rated players allowed back in against highly-rated players......WTF?!
Yeah i agree about the map. ACW was fine? And its just too hard now, like im only 800 elo. I did a few duels and it honestly felt like it was coming down to luck rather than skill. Idk man the new system just makes me wanna avoid duels.
wasn't familiar with the format and only played 1 game last week, now im 1568 rated in masters division stuck playing against 800 and 900 rateds every game ☹☠
Its ridiculous in my opinion. Im around 1000 and i ended up in matches against 1.5k + players multiple games in a row, one of them being Pav🤦♂️ not really a chance of me winning
this new rating system is cringe - GL brah
just got my cheeks clapped against a 1.2k... please change it back, lol
I love your videos! ♡
Jewels
Not that it is your job to fix the queue, but could you ask in some pro Discord for people to queue? If you don't ask anyone specific and you don't talk it shouldn't be sus or anything.
Was up 🐐💯💯
I'm a new player but I've been watching content for a while so I know a decent bit of meta. I decided to give ranked duels a go yesterday and I won 14/16. I wanted to grind and rank up but instead I have to wait 36 hours to get promoted and there's no incentive to keep playing duels since I'm at the top of the division and will only get to play against bronzes. Not a big fan of the new system at the bottom and it looks equally bad at the top. I could win 100/100 duels at bronze and still only get moved to silver III.
Yes! A new video!
The new ELO points awarded are shit.
14:38 I love how autistic you are with the emojis for no reason ahaha
nice
Omg. For 2+ months I thought you were saying jewel💎. Are you saying duel? Tbh I'm confused now. I don't play this game.
ok
yeah after a week of playing, this system really isnt it, hopefully they can see that
Maps this difficult just turns the game into roulette. Not fun!
Get good
Nice!!