What du you think about HATs and external DACs? What is your opinion, take a hat with digital outputs and hang it to a DAC or use the USB of the RPI to a higher rated DAC like the SU-1 maybe?
During my Christmas break I built a streamer with a RPi 3B+, HiFiBerry Digi 2 Pro, a 7" Screen, and PiCorePlayer for the OS. I connect it to my office DAC a Schiit Modi and it is great. It has touch screen and remote configuration/management. Only issue is that using Spotify is a little bit of a PITA, because you have to be a paid subscriber (free won't work), but since I use Qobuz it was really no big deal.
How does Allo compare to Hifiberry? I have the Hifiberry Digi+ Pro. The Allo devices are considerably more expensive. Although I typically just use the USB out on the Pi4 into my Denafrips DAC.
new to this- I have the Allo digione connected to rpi 4, but the only cables that will connect via Volumio to my DAC are the USB (or HDMI cables). Q- should the 3.5mm cable work from the DigiOne hat? Currently, If I set Volumio to DigiOne it doesn't work. It works w/Volumio showing my DAC (Gustard)- connected via the USB cables. Thanks!
The Digione has a coax out, use a digital coax cable to your DAC. That should work for you. If you are using USB, you aren't using the DIGIONE, you are using the PI direct.
Random question, but would you be able to attach an external hard drive to the Pi running the sound and point Volumio to a folder there to stream music from? 🤔 Or another way to put it: could the Pifi also act as a basic NAS just for playing audio files from?
It should be able to do it. Once you connect the drive to the Pi via USB you should be able to mount it and use to read your music files from it. If you are asking if the PiFi will be able to serve files to other devices on the network I don't think Volumio will do that.
I have the same configuration (pi 4 + NAS+ tp-link + volumio 3.xx+ KLH model 5). The sound is fantastic, but Volumio has many cuts and stops ramdomly. I have the last version, but problems going on. The only solution for me now is Jriver Media Center + Volumio (as player), but PC is on. Thanks
That's what I did, kept it simple, rpi4b no hats. the audio out of the USB of an RPi 3 was particularly poor due to the shared ethernet and USB bus and thus the Allo SPDIF HATs (and others) do a fantastic job of mitigating those problems.
Thanks for a great video. I have a very similar set and would like to know what was the best connection for you to your dacs. I assume you use the spdif and for the zen dac you can only use usb? Do you even need the digi hat if the usb is good quality?
How much would I have to spend on the retail side to have an equivalent streamer? First please answer that question and then I can make a decision if this is worth doing. Any thoughts folks???
To play tidal with volumio you have to pay! Volumio is freezing, lagging or died while using…. That's crap! Load libreelec and install. Steering via yatse (free) and tidal via mconnect (free too) and now be happy….
You need to normalize the sound level between your voice and effects. Your voice is low and the volume of the effects is high. Terribly disturbing to watch video. Need to change the volume every time you stop talking and the music starts because it gets really loud.
Thanks for the hint, tested picore with 1.2+ TB data, worked fine (with the material design), gonna check out Moode next ... guess no point to try out Volumio, since its mostly paid. BTW, do you know a guide to setup my toslink x208 out (from Douk)? Bit lost with all the USB settings in Picore lol...
i agree don't waste your time with this raspberry pie crap just get yourself a real computer and save yourself a bunch of time in the end it will be a hell of a lot cheaper and better
What du you think about HATs and external DACs? What is your opinion, take a hat with digital outputs and hang it to a DAC or use the USB of the RPI to a higher rated DAC like the SU-1 maybe?
Wondering if you have ever run the pi 4's U sb out ....into your Zen dac2? ...And how that compares to your regular setup? Thanks G.
During my Christmas break I built a streamer with a RPi 3B+, HiFiBerry Digi 2 Pro, a 7" Screen, and PiCorePlayer for the OS. I connect it to my office DAC a Schiit Modi and it is great. It has touch screen and remote configuration/management. Only issue is that using Spotify is a little bit of a PITA, because you have to be a paid subscriber (free won't work), but since I use Qobuz it was really no big deal.
When connected via Toslink the wifi connection should not be an issue, right?
Depends if the WiFi connection is creating unnecessary noise. It happens sometimes.
Ok, I was hoping an optical signal would not be influenced by that noise..
@@mohe81 it should be perfectly fine
How does Allo compare to Hifiberry? I have the Hifiberry Digi+ Pro. The Allo devices are considerably more expensive. Although I typically just use the USB out on the Pi4 into my Denafrips DAC.
I would continue using the Denafrips. Those DAC hats are cool but they don’t replace something like the Denafrips
new to this- I have the Allo digione connected to rpi 4, but the only cables that will connect via Volumio to my DAC are the USB (or HDMI cables). Q- should the 3.5mm cable work from the DigiOne hat? Currently, If I set Volumio to DigiOne it doesn't work. It works w/Volumio showing my DAC (Gustard)- connected via the USB cables. Thanks!
The Digione has a coax out, use a digital coax cable to your DAC. That should work for you. If you are using USB, you aren't using the DIGIONE, you are using the PI direct.
why would you use a 128GB MicroSD card when all you need is about 16GB if that... it's a streamer with a very small OS
Random question, but would you be able to attach an external hard drive to the Pi running the sound and point Volumio to a folder there to stream music from? 🤔
Or another way to put it: could the Pifi also act as a basic NAS just for playing audio files from?
It should be able to do it. Once you connect the drive to the Pi via USB you should be able to mount it and use to read your music files from it. If you are asking if the PiFi will be able to serve files to other devices on the network I don't think Volumio will do that.
Good job man!
Thanks buddy!
I have the same configuration (pi 4 + NAS+ tp-link + volumio 3.xx+ KLH model 5). The sound is fantastic, but Volumio has many cuts and stops ramdomly. I have the last version, but problems going on. The only solution for me now is Jriver Media Center + Volumio (as player), but PC is on. Thanks
Volumio is so frustrating ! I will try PiCorePlayer that works with Logitech Media Server, because Volumio is so unstable
Hi. Can this configuration use the itunes library on a windows 10 pc as a data source? Thx!
Can it do Amazon prime
It currently cannot unfortunately.
Just use pi4 and plug USB straight to any dac
Yeah I'm on the fence, I'm leaning towards the 3b+ and allo digione, but I'm wondering if it's really worth the extra cash
That's what I did, kept it simple, rpi4b no hats. the audio out of the USB of an RPi 3 was particularly poor due to the shared ethernet and USB bus and thus the Allo SPDIF HATs (and others) do a fantastic job of mitigating those problems.
why not trow away the smps powersuply and use a usb battery bank?
Thank you that’s exactly what I was looking for!!! I am planning to use my external dac.
Nice raspberry pi case, where you get from?
HiFiBerry
Excelent job!! Do you know the DAC Tone Board I (Khadas Brand)?.
No I've never heard of that, can you link it?
Great video Mike, I really enjoyed it! Thank You man!
Thanks f0r the support good sir!
nice project!
Thank you
Thanks for a great video. I have a very similar set and would like to know what was the best connection for you to your dacs. I assume you use the spdif and for the zen dac you can only use usb?
Do you even need the digi hat if the usb is good quality?
Many people will go straight through the USB. I feel the Zen Dac is better than any hat offerings out there
Why wouldn't you just connect the Pi your home WiFi router by Ethernet?
Apartments love putting routers in dumb places.
Must pay volumio when i listen Tidal?
No. You must pay only Tidal
Looks like we built the exact same device, Digi2 Pro, same case and volumio :-)
How much would I have to spend on the retail side to have an equivalent streamer? First please answer that question and then I can make a decision if this is worth doing. Any thoughts folks???
the business versions run around the 500+ range... look at fusion research
To play tidal with volumio you have to pay! Volumio is freezing, lagging or died while using…. That's crap!
Load libreelec and install. Steering via yatse (free) and tidal via mconnect (free too) and now be happy….
I use old phone. It’s much better that ways and saves me money and time.
You need to normalize the sound level between your voice and effects. Your voice is low and the volume of the effects is high. Terribly disturbing to watch video. Need to change the volume every time you stop talking and the music starts because it gets really loud.
Volumio sucks for large volume of files such as on a multi-TB NAS. LMS-related system such as picoreplayer as outlined by Darko is better
I haven't tried their newest update
Thanks for the hint, tested picore with 1.2+ TB data, worked fine (with the material design), gonna check out Moode next ... guess no point to try out Volumio, since its mostly paid. BTW, do you know a guide to setup my toslink x208 out (from Douk)? Bit lost with all the USB settings in Picore lol...
@@GregorMima Sorry, no. Using RCAs only out a DAC HAT into devices.
Amway.....
plastics cases way better
It totally is, if you watch my most recent video on the PIFI I used two different plastic cases I found!
The picoreplayer better and free
Yupp, definitely not building this. Pointless considering the pricing of the Topping offerings.
i agree don't waste your time with this raspberry pie crap just get yourself a real computer and save yourself a bunch of time in the end it will be a hell of a lot cheaper and better