Why Only Earth Has Fire

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  • @Uhshawdude
    @Uhshawdude 10 місяців тому +1882

    The fact that water, fire and life are so interconnected and reliant upon each other to exist on this planet feels poetic in a way. Water creates life, life creates fire, fire consumes life, water douses fire, life is reborn from the ashes of the old.

    • @InquisitorBoomBoom
      @InquisitorBoomBoom 10 місяців тому +55

      I appreciate Terra even more

    • @rgw5991
      @rgw5991 10 місяців тому +14

      awesome!

    • @sntslilhlpr6601
      @sntslilhlpr6601 10 місяців тому +62

      I was thinking that but chemically. At the end of the day it's just moving the same things back and forth.

    • @MissMarilynDarling
      @MissMarilynDarling 10 місяців тому +74

      its like an unending game of rock paper scissors

    • @benwagner5089
      @benwagner5089 10 місяців тому +56

      Puts a whole new spin on "Everything changed when the fire nation attacked."

  • @Hi_Im_Akward
    @Hi_Im_Akward 10 місяців тому +1335

    I've always wondered how grasslands could be the dominant biome for an area without it getting taken over by trees. This makes so much sense. I already kind of knew this, I live in an area where land burning is a seasonal phenomenon land owners do (its in a controlled setting) but I really didn't know why. And I had no clue this was an evolved adaptation to benefit the grass. Evolution is crazy and I feel like we as laymen humans forget about the plants but they do some cool stuff.

    • @LaineyBug2020
      @LaineyBug2020 10 місяців тому +29

      I grew up in Kansas where they do the same thing! Nothing quite like the smell of the pastures burning!

    • @skadoodle8503
      @skadoodle8503 10 місяців тому +23

      the world is truly an interesting place, I think we just fail to see it because we are pre occupied by other things such as socmeds, work, studies etc.

    • @giraffelord94
      @giraffelord94 10 місяців тому +53

      The fact that always blows my mind is how long it took for grass to even show up. Like the most basic kind of plant you could imagine, a leaf in the ground, only evolved around 55 million years ago.
      Yes there were grass-like plants back then, but grass itself, like the kind you see every day, didn't show up until so recently.

    • @josem1419
      @josem1419 10 місяців тому +21

      @@giraffelord94 yeah, grass (of any kind) is so ubiquitous I can't imagine a world without it

    • @The_Opinion_of_Matt
      @The_Opinion_of_Matt 10 місяців тому +16

      You should look up what happened to Yellowstone National Park after wolves were reintroduced. It is rather amazing.

  • @Artful_Synthesis
    @Artful_Synthesis 8 місяців тому +225

    I don't give PBS enough credit for the knowledge, inspiration and entertainment they have provided to me my entire life. The countless people who have and continued to work to build PBS into the most reliable source of educational entertainment have my thanks.

    • @themanhimself3
      @themanhimself3 6 місяців тому +9

      I'm glad our taxes are doing something cool.

    • @CoNteMpTone
      @CoNteMpTone 4 місяці тому

      @@themanhimself3whos taxes and how?

    • @themanhimself3
      @themanhimself3 4 місяці тому

      @@CoNteMpTone My taxes pay for pbs.

    • @beattheovenludwigvan
      @beattheovenludwigvan 4 місяці тому +1

      @@themanhimself3 i didnt even know that.

    • @themanhimself3
      @themanhimself3 4 місяці тому

      @@beattheovenludwigvan Only partially, they aren't completely state funded.

  • @megan5867
    @megan5867 5 місяців тому +26

    I live in Kansas, and this is exactly why we do controlled burns of our fields and grasslands every year. The Flint Hills are my favorite. In winter all the grasses die, in the spring, we do controlled burns, and by later spring, early summer, they are the most beautiful green hills. Kansas doesn't have a lot going for it, but driving through the Flint Hills in late spring/early summer is definitely something to see. You can truly imagine native peoples living alongside the massive herds of buffalo, or imagine people traversing the seemingly neverending prarie in covered wagons.

  • @jaiclary8423
    @jaiclary8423 10 місяців тому +127

    The older I get, the less common it is to come across something that truly teaches me something new. This video accomplished it. Thank you.

    • @pavel9652
      @pavel9652 5 місяців тому +5

      You are watching wrong videos, not to mention there are plenty of scientific papers that will teach you something new, guaranteed.

    • @anjonde4086
      @anjonde4086 4 місяці тому +1

      ⁠​⁠@@pavel9652Sure, ‘something new’, of course, but a big, perspective-altering, unexpected thing like only earth having fire? That was the point. If it’s so easy for you to find videos (or papers) with ideas like that, I wish you would condescend to make a playlist of them for those of us pitifully watching the wrong videos. I’ll give you an honest answer as to how many of them are on par. Or, could it be you’re just too young and/or ignorant to get it?

    • @pavel9652
      @pavel9652 4 місяці тому

      ​@@anjonde4086 "a big, perspective-altering, unexpected thing (...) I’ll give you an honest answer as to how many of them are on par." - it is a totally subjective experience
      "Or, could it be you’re just too young and/or ignorant to get it?" - be careful with patronizing statements towards me; you aren't engaging in ego battle, are you?

    • @anjonde4086
      @anjonde4086 4 місяці тому +1

      @@pavel9652You’re right, I was acting largely out of base egotism, I’m sorry. You’re comment was itself so patronizing that I wanted to retaliate by doing the same. I mean it doesn’t get more patronizing (and subjective!) than telling us we’re “watching the wrong videos” while, in my opinion, being overly literal and totally missing the point. I stand by the substance of what I said, but I should have assumed you didn’t intend to be patronizing (unlike me, eheh) and that your misunderstanding was honest (if you’re just too young to get it, thats not your fault). I didn’t have to be sarcastic and confrontational and gross-internet about it and I apologize for that.

    • @pavel9652
      @pavel9652 4 місяці тому

      ​@@anjonde4086 It was a paraphrase of saying "if you are the smartest person in the room, you are in the wrong room". Maybe it was little patronizing, but it was hard to avoid. I didn't miss the point, and I know what he meant. Yet, I still think he isn't pushing the limits of learning enough. On the subject, what do you think about video "56 Seconds to Live" from USHST? "The 56-second time period is based on a USHST study of 221 fatal helicopter accidents that occurred from 2009 to 2019."

  • @mst4309
    @mst4309 10 місяців тому +3165

    I think the societal misconceptions with what fire actually is is very overlooked, and what it and plasma and glowing-hot liquid metals are should be more clearly covered in school

    • @OrdinaryCritic
      @OrdinaryCritic 10 місяців тому +61

      Agreed. This is very important.

    • @joser9237
      @joser9237 10 місяців тому +231

      Just to be clear, fire isn't a type of plasma. It *can* have plasma if it were hot enough to ionize atoms and be electrically conductive. Most candles and wood fires are not hot enough to create plasma. The common understanding is that fire is hot glowing gas, much like hot metals glow when sufficiently heated.

    • @julianshepherd2038
      @julianshepherd2038 10 місяців тому +45

      Children and fire.
      What could go wrong.

    • @garettdoornwaard4822
      @garettdoornwaard4822 10 місяців тому +27

      I think they are in Canada because i immediately chuckled at the headline and mockingly thought "maybe because were the ones with oxygen...like some public school stuff?"😂

    • @solalflechelles1216
      @solalflechelles1216 10 місяців тому +80

      @@garettdoornwaard4822 Keep chuckling. There are plenty of planets with oxygen.
      What they don't have is both oxygen and fuel, because they lack a cycle by which both can be continually produced, that is, life.

  • @kyrerymmukk7446
    @kyrerymmukk7446 10 місяців тому +917

    Uncle Iroh was right, fire really is the breath of life.

    • @g2unes
      @g2unes 6 місяців тому +5

      😂Lol

    • @agxryt
      @agxryt 6 місяців тому +26

      "and with fire, came disparity. Heat and cold. Life and death. Light and dark."
      Lordran is prehistory, confirmed

    • @davidjairala69
      @davidjairala69 4 місяці тому +7

      Jeong Jeong*

    • @Treasure-bl3cn
      @Treasure-bl3cn 3 місяці тому +1

      bruhhh, i just wrote an avatar statement without seeing yours hahahah,. so funny

    • @DXDragon38
      @DXDragon38 3 місяці тому +3

      Uncle Iroh never steered us wrong!

  • @timhogan9282
    @timhogan9282 10 місяців тому +420

    I haven't thought about this before. Goes to show you you never stop learning

    • @glennjpanting2081
      @glennjpanting2081 10 місяців тому

      Some people do ..... but that's only because they choose to be ignorant. Poor dumb bastards. 😞

    • @360.Tapestry
      @360.Tapestry 10 місяців тому +4

      where there's life... there's fire

    • @jelly.212
      @jelly.212 10 місяців тому +2

      @@360.Tapestry define life. Because some planets also have life.

    • @thechicken1477
      @thechicken1477 10 місяців тому +10

      ​@@jelly.212 Name one

    • @AlanTheBeast100
      @AlanTheBeast100 10 місяців тому +2

      Regrettably I meet people daily who proved they stop learning. A lot. And young. Sad.

  • @chriskirby1879
    @chriskirby1879 10 місяців тому +114

    As a degreed and professional forester. Thank you for this! I wish more people would fully understand this!

    • @Thefloorsspeakyiddish
      @Thefloorsspeakyiddish 10 місяців тому +5

      Degreed only means you memorized enough things to pass the final at the end of the year. As someone who works in chemicals, I know this idea of fire needing organic matter to burn is simply not true

    • @manicangel7796
      @manicangel7796 10 місяців тому +3

      As a degreed person, one would believe you would not write a fragmented sentence.

    • @Patrick-y4d1z
      @Patrick-y4d1z 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Thefloorsspeakyiddish
      Not necessarily organic, no, but surely would have to compose of the same elements (in same variation) to release (x)CO2 & (x)H2O?
      But yeah, as a Biologist - I hate the presentation here personally. It makes a lot of presumptions from the get-go, including that only our planet can even support life in the first place.

    • @videogamesarecool9280
      @videogamesarecool9280 6 місяців тому

      @@Patrick-y4d1zthey did specify 'know planets' and earth is the only planet we currently know of that provably has life

    • @Patrick-y4d1z
      @Patrick-y4d1z 6 місяців тому

      @@videogamesarecool9280
      It's more that they said;
      "It isn't the only watery planet in the universe, but it is the only fiery planet"
      Which doesn't mention about "known planets" just outright stated it's the only one.
      So far, we've been to like two planets. Including our own. So it's a bit of a bold statement to make.

  • @jkatttt1699
    @jkatttt1699 10 місяців тому +59

    This is something we are missing in modern forest management that has been a contributing factor to the intense wildfire burns we are seeing!!! It's just one piece of the puzzle of course, but the importance of regenerative burning cannot be overstated!

    • @thomaskrug4328
      @thomaskrug4328 7 місяців тому +5

      True enough. Smokey the Bear notwithstanding, it turns out we can't prevent forest fires, only postpone them. Then when they do finally happen, the damage is pretty severe.

    • @NYBrandywineTree
      @NYBrandywineTree 2 місяці тому +1

      Pine cones are serotinous. That means they will not open without extreme heat from a fire.

  • @willmendoza8498
    @willmendoza8498 10 місяців тому +223

    Sometimes a video tells me stuff I already knew, but recontextualizes it in a way that makes it feel brand new. This is one such video.

    • @Neuvost
      @Neuvost 9 місяців тому +7

      knowledge AND wisdom :D

    • @Janziepoo
      @Janziepoo 6 місяців тому

      I recognize your profile picture but can't remember where I've seen it! @willmendoza8498

    • @FoulWeatherFriend385
      @FoulWeatherFriend385 6 місяців тому +2

      Another groundbreaking fact from this video: PBS is now being sponsored by a software company who’s main selling point is that it gives people access to porn in states where its blocked. Lol

    • @technopoptart
      @technopoptart 6 місяців тому

      pretty much, yeah.

  • @KoneSkirata
    @KoneSkirata 10 місяців тому +968

    Life is older than fire. That's going on the "obscure perspective-changing facts" list.

    • @rstidman
      @rstidman 8 місяців тому +45

      who would want to live in a world where you can't tell someone else to go die in a fire?

    • @therobn
      @therobn 8 місяців тому +4

      They had to come to that conclusion for you? Man basically discovered fire

    • @KoneSkirata
      @KoneSkirata 8 місяців тому

      @therobn The tens of thousands of animals that were vaporized within a thousand kilometer radius around the Yucatan peninsula, as well as the many millions more that were burned alive within a couple thousand kilometers by earth's mantle literally being ejected into space and raining down again in an apocalyptic hellfire of unprecedented proportions in the history of life, to not even mention the billions of plants meeting their demise as molten stone set ablaze entire continents, will be glad to hear that there was no such thing as fire, before mankind discovered it 🤡

    • @avinashreji60
      @avinashreji60 8 місяців тому +57

      @@therobn ? that's not true

    • @nottelling7438
      @nottelling7438 8 місяців тому +46

      ​@@therobnWe didn't start the fire. Earlier living things did.

  • @AceofHearth
    @AceofHearth 10 місяців тому +470

    I don't know why but watching this video makes me long to see the days before I ever existed. Not to experience or go through it, but just to observe it and just wonder and wander more.

    • @davidgantenbein9362
      @davidgantenbein9362 10 місяців тому +33

      I always wonder when we will go and just do super realistic simulations of all these time periods … to entertain, educate and also study possibilities. Maybe one day we can take a simulated walk through those times.

    • @LuisSierra42
      @LuisSierra42 10 місяців тому +19

      This just proves that there are far more things that we would never know or understand than the things we do

    • @Gamingniqqa
      @Gamingniqqa 10 місяців тому

      That’s stupid

    • @thelionoob
      @thelionoob 10 місяців тому +18

      that has been one of my deepest desires since I was a child. Be able to go to any period in time before human history as an observer, to gaze upon what we have never been able to.

    • @sp5072
      @sp5072 10 місяців тому +2

      Must’ve missed the part about the fire tornadoes

  • @deadman746
    @deadman746 Місяць тому +5

    Science fiction writer Kurt Vonnegut wrote about a man on a planet where the atmosphere sought to combine with and destroy everything people held dear. His job was to prevent that.
    He was a firefighter on Earth.

  • @SavannahBurris
    @SavannahBurris 9 місяців тому +4

    Pretty neat! I hadn’t ever really thought about this even though in hindsight, it seems very logical and obvious. Reminds me a lot of Avatar: The Last Airbender and how Firebending is actually the element of life - not destruction. Without controlled burnings of grasslands and the death of old, decaying plants, new life would never have the chance to flourish.

  • @Zimisce85
    @Zimisce85 10 місяців тому +508

    I would love to see an episode about lichens: their evolution, when the symbiont relation may have appeared, if they have made genetic studies and if they have learned something from them. I always had the idea that lichens have much to say about the emergence of life on land.

    • @LeoDomitrix
      @LeoDomitrix 10 місяців тому +15

      Just seconding (or fiftieth-ing) the lichens. They're fascinating.

    • @thelionoob
      @thelionoob 10 місяців тому +8

      agreed

    • @one_field
      @one_field 10 місяців тому +8

      Upvote! This would be a great episode.

    • @jwarfield1623
      @jwarfield1623 10 місяців тому +8

      I'm here for that too. I'd love that

    • @Pk_Rain
      @Pk_Rain 10 місяців тому +9

      I’m in school for natural resources and they’re one of my favourite things to learn about. They are pretty much architects of nature as they break down rock from barren stony landscapes to produce soil which leads to forests, this process is known as ecological succession and it’s very interesting.

  • @goatsplitter
    @goatsplitter 10 місяців тому +302

    This makes me wonder what other kind of things are possible on other planets. If fire is unique to our earth like conditions, what about other things? The universe is constantly amazing.

    • @oriontigley5089
      @oriontigley5089 10 місяців тому +70

      Oil and coal is also probably fairly unique to Earth, since they largely formed from our specific mass extinction events.
      It's very possible that, if intelligent life does exist out there, their Industrial Revolution would look very different or may not happen at all

    • @krishadyn5211
      @krishadyn5211 10 місяців тому +30

      The most amazing basic object that could be grasped might be ice fragments from high pressure planets. As ice is compressed, it becomes incredibly hard, like stone. Like cold crystal. It can be set into lava and not melt. But if you took these cold diamonds out of their high pressure atmosphere, they'd melt (I think).

    • @goatsplitter
      @goatsplitter 10 місяців тому +22

      @@oriontigley5089 yeah you're so right! I read somewhere that as we keep depleting our fossil fuel reserves, we're making it so a hypothetical intelligent life down the line, or future humans, would never be able to industrialize. Wild!!

    • @Rebar77_real
      @Rebar77_real 10 місяців тому +5

      Like how there are so many different thermite reactions here, then there's Uranium!

    • @jaredf6205
      @jaredf6205 10 місяців тому +8

      For fire, you need a chemical to accept electrons and a chemical to give electrons. Oxygen, chlorine and fluorine give electrons really well and you can have fires involving those, I don’t think most other elements are as reactive in that way. There are loads of chemicals that can give electrons to them, fuels. But there’s not really anything weird and new out there as far as flashy reactions like that like you are thinking. Not going to come across some new phenomena.

  • @davidboyle1902
    @davidboyle1902 10 місяців тому +200

    This is one of your best presentations. Never actually thought about fire as discussed here. Very informative. Thx.

  • @worldmedia1476
    @worldmedia1476 10 місяців тому +3

    WOW I never thought of this!!! I have always thought of water but didn't realise fire is also exclusive to Earth.... WOW.

    • @amandamatheny3675
      @amandamatheny3675 9 місяців тому

      water is not exclusive to earth.

    • @worldmedia1476
      @worldmedia1476 9 місяців тому

      is fire unique on Earth??? @@amandamatheny3675

  • @PikaTigerlilypika
    @PikaTigerlilypika 10 місяців тому +31

    But then the fire planet attacked.

  • @SilverScarletSpider
    @SilverScarletSpider 10 місяців тому +61

    2:29 i like it when the hosts enjoy the scripts that they write. gives everyone a bit more voice. Wood is rarer in this universe than Diamond, because only Earth has wood.

  • @paradox7358
    @paradox7358 10 місяців тому +160

    Those fire storms of the Carboniferous would have been a terrifying sight to behold.

    • @Flesh_Wizard
      @Flesh_Wizard 10 місяців тому +44

      Ah yes, the Carboniferous
      When everywhere was Australia

    • @GalvyTheTom
      @GalvyTheTom 10 місяців тому +26

      @@Flesh_WizardIf Australia was predominantly rainforest instead of desert

    • @ratre7349
      @ratre7349 10 місяців тому +15

      But also terrifyingly beautifull.

    • @TheRogueX
      @TheRogueX 10 місяців тому

      You can ask German and Japanese survivors of World War II, they can give you an idea of what it would have been like. Specifically, people who lived in Dresden and Tokyo.

    • @fabianmckenna8197
      @fabianmckenna8197 6 місяців тому

      ​@@TheRogueX
      You mean the German and Japanese invaders who were quite happy to destroy everything in their path before finally refusing to surrender until their countries were bombed into submission.........

  • @fugithegreat
    @fugithegreat 10 місяців тому +355

    Wow, I'd never considered the fact that fire wouldn't exist without something carbon-based to burn. Thanks for expanding my horizons and helping me to reframe my understanding!

    • @luel23
      @luel23 10 місяців тому +53

      There are some inorganic substances that can burn, too. Sulfur for example would yield you a little blue fire when ignited. Keeping in mind that accumulations of sulfur usually build up at vulcanic areas, this could easily happen.
      It's more the oxygen in the atmosphere that enables the formation of fires, since you have to have an oxidizing agent to burn stuff ^^

    • @ecurewitz
      @ecurewitz 10 місяців тому +14

      And an oxygen rich atmosphere rich

    • @sntslilhlpr6601
      @sntslilhlpr6601 10 місяців тому +7

      Same here. Turns out rocks don't burn lol.

    • @cardboardboxification
      @cardboardboxification 10 місяців тому +5

      fire has nothing to do with carbon, it's electromagnetic releasing electromagnetic energy in the spectrum of light and inferred , just consider it a very slow atomic bomb

    • @michaelblankenau6598
      @michaelblankenau6598 10 місяців тому +4

      I don't think rocket fuel is carbon based , but it definitely creates a powerful fire .

  • @AtomizerX
    @AtomizerX 10 місяців тому +6

    We already had earth & wind, we just needed to add fire to complete the band!

  • @MilonMing
    @MilonMing 10 місяців тому +1

    I love this. Not only is it interesting for children to learn about, it appealed to me and I'm 70!! Puts a whole new spin on fire; something we take for granted on our planet.

  • @hypocriticalcritic6915
    @hypocriticalcritic6915 10 місяців тому +207

    "Damn, this planet is fire"

    • @fduranthesee
      @fduranthesee 10 місяців тому +12

      no cap, this planet is straight-up bussin'

    • @FatCat-z6n
      @FatCat-z6n 5 місяців тому +2

      No it's lit

    • @N3gativeR3FLUX
      @N3gativeR3FLUX 2 місяці тому

      "like, literally fire i can see literal fire storms on its surface"

  • @aplaceinthestars3207
    @aplaceinthestars3207 10 місяців тому +102

    Gosh, I feel like my mental concept of fire is stuck in the medieval era! The fact that both decomposing organisms AND fire didn't exist since the dawn of life and came about far later just blows my mind!

  • @borovice1731
    @borovice1731 10 місяців тому +72

    Wow. This episode explained one of the longest interconnected chain of events ever.

  • @UrgoMeister
    @UrgoMeister 9 місяців тому +2

    Excellent video. The only thing I would have said differently is "Earth is the only planet in our solar system that has fire." We don't know if any of the exoplanets (in other star systems) throughout the universe have fire.

  • @Simbabbad
    @Simbabbad 9 місяців тому +2

    This was an original and interesting angle! Great job.

  • @kathleencross-cj1xd
    @kathleencross-cj1xd 10 місяців тому +116

    Of course! Rocks can't burn. Only things that have lived can burn. It makes so much sense. Why didn't I think of that. I love your vids. I love learning this stuff. Thanks.

    • @leewagner4474
      @leewagner4474 10 місяців тому +18

      Magnesium burns.

    • @Maxolotl124
      @Maxolotl124 10 місяців тому +33

      ​@@leewagner4474yeah, so do a lot of compounds that can exist without living organisms (even if they are much more common in their presence). I get the feeling that fire isn't necessarily ABSENT in the rest of the universe, just A LOT less common

    • @austin4855
      @austin4855 10 місяців тому +16

      @@leewagner4474 True, but magnesium is pretty rare in a pure metallic form on earth or anywhere else that we know of. And it oxidizes and that layer actually protects it from further oxygen exposure. If you had oxygen, metallic magnesium, and some kind of ignition source like a current, it could happen, but it's probably very rare.

    • @mkhanman12345
      @mkhanman12345 10 місяців тому +1

      I am going to learn now

    • @TG_Flatline
      @TG_Flatline 10 місяців тому +1

      What about coal? (Genuinely asking)

  • @thomasfalkenberg8549
    @thomasfalkenberg8549 10 місяців тому +231

    Considering Fire's role in human societies, this might also be a small step towards the Fermi Paradox

    • @Ethan-cz8xq
      @Ethan-cz8xq 10 місяців тому +48

      Possibly. So for intelligent life to have access to fire, they'd need to both evolve on land and have oxygen be produced by a large amount of autotrophs

    • @geralferald
      @geralferald 10 місяців тому +13

      @@Ethan-cz8xqfire isn’t necessary to technologically debelop

    • @IceSpoon
      @IceSpoon 10 місяців тому +99

      @@geralferald You can't have a Kardashev-2 civilisation without barbecues.

    • @oriontigley5089
      @oriontigley5089 10 місяців тому +30

      ​@@geralferaldIt's not strictly neccessary, no, but it is extremely helpful.

    • @salemsaberhagan
      @salemsaberhagan 10 місяців тому +51

      ​@@geralferaldit's necessary to externalise a part of the digestive process as we understand it, which both enables acquisition of biological energy through food & frees it up for complex & expensive mental processes which are necessary for technological development. No cooking means no extra energy for thinking up fancy things to do with lasers. Brains are expensive electrical devices.

  • @raphlvlogs271
    @raphlvlogs271 10 місяців тому +24

    plants that are fire resistant are usually also more tolerant to poor nutrient deficient soils as well

  • @xandrewvondiue522
    @xandrewvondiue522 10 місяців тому +2

    Fire is an element as fundemental as water is for life? Epic.

  • @blazefireecology
    @blazefireecology 10 місяців тому +2

    may be biased, but this is one of the best eons videos yet! thanks for sharing the important and ancient relationship of life on earth with fire!

  • @PendragonDaGreat
    @PendragonDaGreat 10 місяців тому +163

    Earth: Creates Giant Insects:
    Also Earth: Creates fire to deal with said giant insects.

  • @RabidJohn
    @RabidJohn 10 місяців тому +88

    Fire simply needs fuel and oxygen, so as soon as there was a sufficient concentration in the atmosphere, it was a thing.
    I was a coal miner. Seams commonly have very thin 'soot' bands (actually crushed charcoal) in them where the forests burnt around 350M years ago.
    Unsurprising that it goes back much further.

    • @jamesgeorge4874
      @jamesgeorge4874 10 місяців тому +2

      You forgot heat.

    • @RabidJohn
      @RabidJohn 10 місяців тому +6

      @@jamesgeorge4874 No, I didn't.
      Fire needs an ignition source such as lightning.
      It doesn't need heat: it produces heat.
      Also, as a coal miner I know spontaneous combustion is a real and dangerous thing.
      Coal will oxidise without burning, but the reaction still produces heat.
      Limited airflow may not be sufficient to dissipate the heat and then you get the carbon dioxide reduction reaction that produces carbon monoxide.
      All with no flame...

    • @TheRogueX
      @TheRogueX 10 місяців тому

      Fire needs fuel and an oxidizer. Oxygen isn't the only oxidizer.

  • @GuyWithAnAmazingHat
    @GuyWithAnAmazingHat 10 місяців тому +83

    It makes so much more sense now why classical elements consider fire an element. I wonder what kind of such "elements" exist out in the universe that we don't even know exist.

    • @Barackobama-uq2ly
      @Barackobama-uq2ly 4 місяці тому +2

      "Classical elements consider..."

    • @emmneto
      @emmneto Місяць тому +6

      That's a cool question. I always wonder about what versions of life exist but I've never wondered about other forces of nature out there. Thanks for putting that in my head

  • @bretfisher7286
    @bretfisher7286 7 місяців тому +1

    This is quite fascinating. I'm not exactly a scientist (which is a big reason I'm here-- to learn), but I'd actually never thought of this.

  • @ggarpett8063
    @ggarpett8063 10 місяців тому +2

    This was miles more interesting of a video than I thought it’d be

  • @AifDaimon
    @AifDaimon 10 місяців тому +45

    New criteria in the search for earth-like exoplanets: signs of fire.. Edit - I correctly guessed Dimetrodon

  • @DeuxisWasTaken
    @DeuxisWasTaken 10 місяців тому +34

    This is a great point. Fire needs reactive oxidiser and reactive fuel. (Pedantic nitpick: despite the name oxygen is not the only nor the most powerful oxidiser.) The problem is that reactive things, well, react and so they are never naturally available in large not yet reacted quantities. Life is the exception in that it reverses that process, it uses energy to turn less reactive compounds into more reactive ones (endothermic chemical reactions) so that it can use them as building blocks or react them back together to get the stored energy back.
    Photosynthesis is a pump that takes energy from the Sun's light to perform these reactions, transforming that light energy into usable chemical energy. When aerobic life burns sugar with oxygen to use that energy, the term "burns" is pretty literal. As a side effect, the surplus oxygen and unburnt fuel can result in plain old fire.
    Although, it might be possible for fire to exist without life. There are endothermic reactions that can occur due to heat without any organic help, so there might be planets where extreme solar radiation or internal heat affect naturally occurring compounds and result in endothermic reactions that produce oxidiser+fuel, which then burn back together, completing a cycle.

    • @TheWemmick
      @TheWemmick 10 місяців тому +5

      Fantastic comment. I was hoping someone with chemistry knowledge would step in.
      "it might be possible for fire to exist without life"
      Yeah, I was wondering. My thinking was that a planet with an eccentric orbit might provide suitable conditions. If you had an endothermic reaction storing up energy during the hot period of the orbit, it could burn off when the planet travels farther from its star.

    • @pavel9652
      @pavel9652 5 місяців тому

      Life lowers the entropy and produces stashes of fuel with the low entropy energy source that is the sun. Then a wild fire happens and takes the entropy for a hike!

    • @Vastin
      @Vastin 5 місяців тому +5

      Yep. People sometimes naively assume that because gas giants are often largely composed of hydrogen, that they could somehow 'catch fire' if someone dropped a match into one.
      They cannot of course. Any gasses that the hydrogen could reactively combine with did so eons ago, or have otherwise been separated into discrete layers that don't interact directly.
      Any chemical reactions that could easily occur within the atmosphere have already occurred, and any ongoing activity would either be due to the effects of sunlight, or the rare mixing of gas layers that are normally kept separate due to the weather behaviors of the planet.

  • @grokeffer6226
    @grokeffer6226 10 місяців тому +31

    I'd not really thought about this before. This is truly amazing. 🔥

  • @irrelevant2235
    @irrelevant2235 10 місяців тому +5

    Fire is a chemical reaction and life is a chemical reaction.

  • @LEDewey_MD
    @LEDewey_MD 10 місяців тому +5

    Great episode! The story of how our atmosphere became partly oxygen is a fascinating story, requiring research from many fields, including geology, meteorology, paleontology, and biology. An absolutely great book that covers all of these is "Oxygen: the Molecule that Made the World", by Dr. Nick Lane, (professor of evolutionary biochemistry at University College London, director of UCL's Centre for Life's Origins and Evolution ....in fact, I highly recommend ALL of his books.) It is an incredibly thorough and engaging read and remarkably still up to date, even though it was published in 2002. :)

  • @toodlesX14
    @toodlesX14 10 місяців тому +172

    It may not be very scientific, but I've always liked thinking of fire as an abstract form of life. So it's super interesting to learn that fire wasn't always around, and needed a specific set of circumstances to "evolve" so to speak. Really neat episode, I learned a lot!

    • @ambergris5705
      @ambergris5705 10 місяців тому +2

      I love this idea too. Someone should write something about that!

    • @Nartinan
      @Nartinan 10 місяців тому +23

      Yes, I think so too. Fire is at least in the same category as life, both are in a sense a reaction zone. Fuel goes in, waste comes out, the system sustains itself and seeks more fuel until it "dies"

    • @cardboardboxification
      @cardboardboxification 10 місяців тому

      fire is simple electromagnetic at the atomic structure , absolutely no electromagnetic physics on earth create cells , much less life

    • @HallucigeniaIV
      @HallucigeniaIV 10 місяців тому +19

      I have a vague memory of the series of Avatar (the OG one with the element-benders) Discussing fire as an "alive" element, or even the element of life, as it is the only element that grows and needs care to exist. it always stuck with me and I think fire is a beautiful counterpart to our usual understanding of life!

    • @TheSaneHatter
      @TheSaneHatter 10 місяців тому +1

      Robert de Niro, as a fire-department investigator, has a monologue to that effect in the movie, "Backdraft."

  • @lonjohnson5161
    @lonjohnson5161 10 місяців тому +32

    I really liked this one. It is obvious in retrospect that you can't have fire without life or some other ongoing process, given that chemicals that can vigorously react (burn) on geological time will find each other and react until something is completely consumed (the rusting of the Earth's crust is evidence of that); however, until someone mentions it, you don't really think about it. In other words, I liked this episode because it made me look at what I thought I knew differently.

    • @PhillipMoore-vj6cc
      @PhillipMoore-vj6cc 4 місяці тому

      Those are brain cells that you won't get back. The premise that there is no fire without "organic" substance is bogus, and simply not true. There are many inorganic substances that burn with a flame. Sulfer is one. Sulfer was here, as well as other inorganic subtances that burn, long before there was life on earth. There was also oxygen, and lightimg, to ignite things. But, you don't even need lightning, Google says sulfer is subject to spontaneous combustion.

  • @geekyprojects1353
    @geekyprojects1353 10 місяців тому +29

    Nowadays iron contained in vehicles still absorbs oxygen. We call the product of this process "a beater car".

    • @DangerB0ne
      @DangerB0ne 10 місяців тому +3

      Perhaps in time this process can be preserved as a hooptie-ite.

    • @KangwithoutaKangdom
      @KangwithoutaKangdom 10 місяців тому

      ​@@DangerB0ne😂😂😂

    • @aircraftcarrierwo-class
      @aircraftcarrierwo-class 10 місяців тому +3

      @@DangerB0ne As you can see this rock layer contains a high concentration of jalopicite...

    • @TragoudistrosMPH
      @TragoudistrosMPH 10 місяців тому +1

      Such pure geekery! 🥲

    • @pinrod1
      @pinrod1 8 місяців тому

      Weight reduction bro

  • @Kat-mh1ol
    @Kat-mh1ol 10 місяців тому +4

    Thanks for such a great video. Love the idea that fire replenishes and nourishes life, especially at this cold time of year. It’s so interesting what fire does in our ecosystems.

  • @willie3262
    @willie3262 21 день тому

    When I’m feeling down and want some peppy, accessible, informative kick, I watch PBS Eons

  • @emidowdarrow
    @emidowdarrow 10 місяців тому +11

    Pretty cool. Makes sense why more ancient traditions view fire as life-giving.

  • @maisiesummers42
    @maisiesummers42 10 місяців тому +22

    The opening bit about the sun being mostly hydrogen reminded me of this quote:
    "Several billion trillion tons of superhot exploding hydrogen nuclei rose slowly above the horizon and managed to look small, cold and slightly damp.” -Douglas Adams, Life, The Universe and Everything.

  • @IRosamelia
    @IRosamelia 10 місяців тому +13

    I can't believe I'm learning this in my mid-forties. This should be middle school basic science knowledge 🤔

  • @kenziehasintimacyissues
    @kenziehasintimacyissues 7 місяців тому +2

    my incredibly dyslexic arse read the title as "What if the Earth was only Fire?"

  • @LXAsx457
    @LXAsx457 10 місяців тому +3

    I’ve watched a lot of these PBS Eons videos, and this has got to be one of the most interesting ones yet. Well done 👏 👏 👏

  • @jaimequinones1109
    @jaimequinones1109 10 місяців тому +7

    This is one of y'all's best videos of all time imo. Wow

  • @tylerwheeling3060
    @tylerwheeling3060 10 місяців тому +7

    This is lowkey an anthropologist answer to religious fire and early religions too. Fire made humanity and culture as it is today from the very start. Its importance is woven into most mythologies, for better and for worse.

  • @anthonyfrench3169
    @anthonyfrench3169 10 місяців тому +12

    Even today we use fire to reseed the biosphere. Some examples that are at home for me is at Oak Openings in Toledo OH. It's an Oak Savanah and also where I currently live in Yamaguchi Japan. Akiyoshidai, a Karst plateau, both places use fire as a means to promote healthy growth.

  • @noahdove4969
    @noahdove4969 10 місяців тому

    Oh my! Kelly, everytime you manage how to amaze me. Thank you all so much guys at EONS!

  • @SuperGGnoRE
    @SuperGGnoRE 9 місяців тому +1

    This make me appreciate Dark Souls lore even more.

  • @mattfirestone1
    @mattfirestone1 10 місяців тому +24

    What about chlorate reactions like in an oxygen candle? Isn't it possible to have combustion with the absence of Oxygen? Other types of combustion exist as well, like fluorine. Also magnesium/teflon/biton compositions burn without oxygen. Other halogens, such as bromine and iodine, can also act as oxidizing agents.

    • @DeRien8
      @DeRien8 10 місяців тому +1

      Or when the alkali metals oxidize vigorously in water or air. Or when hydrogen and oxygen explode to make water? I'm not sure if there would be enough of those reactive species hanging around separately on early Earth for any significant "fires" though.

    • @nottelling7438
      @nottelling7438 10 місяців тому +2

      The reactions discussed in the video (oxygen + organic fuel) are definitely fire, but I neither natural language evolution nor, I suspect, the wide array of possible chemical reactions particularly lend themselves to drawing a sharp line to distinguish fire from not fire without any ambiguous or counterintuitive results.

    • @mattfirestone1
      @mattfirestone1 10 місяців тому +2

      @@DeRien8 The title of the video is "why only earth has fire". My point is that there are many combustible compositions and an unfathomable number of planets so it is incredibly likely that a) there is fire on other planets and b) they aren't necessarily burning oxygen.

    • @TheRogueX
      @TheRogueX 10 місяців тому +2

      It is absolutely possible. This video is rather misleading.
      Hydrocarbons can exist without life.
      Oxygen isn't the only oxidizer (and not even the most powerful one).
      From there all you need is energy to begin the reaction.

    • @mattfirestone1
      @mattfirestone1 10 місяців тому

      That's also my understanding. Fire most likely exists in lots of places. @@TheRogueX

  • @geirtwo
    @geirtwo 10 місяців тому +15

    "Fire can't exist without life" 🤯 Wow, that is something to think about. I have had thoughts about fire as a form of life recently, but I have never though fire is dependent on life. It is like we could place fire somewhere in the phylogenetic tree!
    Heraclitus is the best!

    • @TheRogueX
      @TheRogueX 10 місяців тому +2

      Fire isn't dependent on life.

    • @ragnkja
      @ragnkja 10 місяців тому +3

      Without life, the fuel and oxidiser would just react with each other and get used up. The thing that’s unique about Earth is that they get replenished, and that requires life.

    • @cowboybeebop3451
      @cowboybeebop3451 8 місяців тому

      The sun is a nuclear fire, it's not really an explosion as it is constant so it's a fire ​@@ragnkja

    • @ragnkja
      @ragnkja 8 місяців тому +1

      @@cowboybeebop3451
      But it’s not a fire, it’s a nuclear chain reaction.

    • @cowboybeebop3451
      @cowboybeebop3451 8 місяців тому

      @@ragnkja but isn't a fire just a sustained reaction though?
      It's just the combustion of something like wood but it's still functions in the same way just not using oxygen.
      I mean I could be wrong but when I think of the sun I think fire and light

  • @Fantasygod930
    @Fantasygod930 10 місяців тому +51

    I kind of knew fire had a archeological record But it was only up to humans discovering and using fire Maybe a bit of the dinosaur's extinction But damn I did not know if first appeared when life appeared or when plants appeared That's insane This channel always has many surprises instored

    • @TheRogueX
      @TheRogueX 10 місяців тому

      Fire has existed for way longer than Earth has. This video is extremely misleading.

  • @prapanthebachelorette6803
    @prapanthebachelorette6803 10 місяців тому +1

    I’ve been wondering my whole life why areas looking so dry and dead like this managed to sustain so many lives! Thanks Eons 😊🎉

  • @reydelcastillo17
    @reydelcastillo17 9 місяців тому +1

    Great narration from an awesome host!

  • @SuspiciousOwlbear
    @SuspiciousOwlbear 10 місяців тому +30

    Well darn, I thought we only had fire because of Prometheus.

    • @GalvyTheTom
      @GalvyTheTom 10 місяців тому +1

      What a plagiarizer

    • @davidgantenbein9362
      @davidgantenbein9362 10 місяців тому +6

      Technically Prometheus from mythology only gave fire to humans, he didn’t invent or create it. In fact, he stole fire from the gods and gave it to humans.

  • @LukeBunyip
    @LukeBunyip 10 місяців тому +22

    Given I live on a continent synonymous with fire, the lack of mention of the Eucalyptus family of flowering plants is bemusing.

    • @floopyboo
      @floopyboo 10 місяців тому +1

      This

    • @julesmasseffectmusic
      @julesmasseffectmusic 10 місяців тому +1

      Well our seasons are under water, on fire ,drought and magpie mating season.

  • @aidanwewilin
    @aidanwewilin 10 місяців тому +4

    I didn’t expect this video to heighten my appreciation for fire and grass to this height.

  • @OGJessie
    @OGJessie 8 місяців тому +1

    I understand where she's coming from we often confuse heat from reactions as synonymous with fire but I'm highly skeptical she's right....there are way too many planets with enough carbon, oxygen and suitable fuel....judging on how we don't know exactly how life on earth started we cannot rule out an inorganic source of O2 being possible especially with the strange and unique environments planets have...Obviously this is purely speculative but I believe the universe is too fantastical to make such a bold statement as the title does.

  • @ZombieLicorice
    @ZombieLicorice 10 місяців тому +1

    I understand why the title is the way it is, but a more accurate statement would be "why combustion is common on earth and rare on most planets"

  • @KingsleyIII
    @KingsleyIII 10 місяців тому +9

    This episode is straight fire.

  • @badmonkey244
    @badmonkey244 10 місяців тому +5

    You did it again: the title is enough to make me drop everything I'm doing cause now I HAVE to know 😅

  • @AardBewoner
    @AardBewoner 10 місяців тому +14

    This was so interesting, made me think of fire in a different way. I especially loved the analysis of the grassland biome, this is a useful vid for the NoLawns community. This made me wonder about the evolution of other biomes and plant communities. Cloud forests? Alpine grasslands? Temperate rainforests? Steppe?

  • @bottasheimfe5750
    @bottasheimfe5750 8 місяців тому +3

    TLDR: its because Earth is so far the only place with both Free Oxygen and Fuel to combust. all the oxygen we've found elsewhere in the universe are either locked in rocks or found in Gas Giants.

  • @CarrieMana
    @CarrieMana 10 місяців тому +2

    I really loved this episode! Some feedback, during the discussion on grasslands, I was waiting for some mention of indigenous burning and land stewardship and was honestly surprised and disappointed when it didn't come. I know this show thinks very far in the past normally but when you touch on an ecosystem like grasslands, that wouldn't exist today without the practices of indigenous people, it deserves a mention. I love PBS Eons so keep being a great channel!

    • @amelade
      @amelade 10 місяців тому

      i was thinking this also! +

  • @chih_le
    @chih_le 10 місяців тому +26

    I got the trivia question right :) I love the new idea of trivia questions but can I suggest for the answers to only be revealed in the next video so that we can create discussions in the comments section without having to worry that people think we skip to the end to get the answer? The more educated guesses may even let us learn about alternate answers to the trivia question!

    • @TragoudistrosMPH
      @TragoudistrosMPH 10 місяців тому +3

      🤔 I'm not sure alternate answers are ideal given the state of misinformation on the Internet 😕
      I love the idea of discussion though!
      (It could be challenging finding the answers in separate episodes when watching out of order, but YT has dates, so not impossible.)
      They could pin a discussion comment up top!

    • @phoebemurtagh3059
      @phoebemurtagh3059 10 місяців тому +1

      The classic "I'm not a dinosaur, but I play one in TV, children's toy sets, and the public consciousness" animal. 😁

  • @MsZeeZed
    @MsZeeZed 10 місяців тому +5

    Fire needs an Oxidiser, it doesn’t have to be dioxygen, its just the easiest component and makes fire so common, here on Earth. Fire can exist without life, it would just be much rarer in the absence of life, not completely absent.

    • @sydhenderson6753
      @sydhenderson6753 10 місяців тому +1

      Since volcanoes emit sulfur, that may have fueled Earth's first fires, although not wildfires.

    • @ragnkja
      @ragnkja 10 місяців тому

      The thing that life provides is the ability to reverse energy-releasing chemical reactions. So without life, burned-up things stay burned-up forever.

  • @owensanfordstuff
    @owensanfordstuff 10 місяців тому +11

    Damn, just opened UA-cam and new video

    • @sarathrathnayake1574
      @sarathrathnayake1574 10 місяців тому

      same for me too

    • @paraceratherium255
      @paraceratherium255 10 місяців тому

      It’s 3:00 am tho

    • @owensanfordstuff
      @owensanfordstuff 10 місяців тому

      @@paraceratherium255 different time zones

    • @paraceratherium255
      @paraceratherium255 10 місяців тому +1

      @@owensanfordstuff that’s not what I was saying. I am just sleep deprived and should be asleep.

    • @owensanfordstuff
      @owensanfordstuff 10 місяців тому

      @@paraceratherium255 yeah I didn't get that from your first comment 😂

  • @monticore1626
    @monticore1626 9 місяців тому

    In Australia the eucalyptus trees have oil in their leaves, not only is it toxic but it also makes them highly flammable. Many species have stringy bark which hangs down from the branches and is essentially ideal kindling. The trees go to all this effort to be flammable as a reproductive strategy as many species have seed pods that are highly resistant to fire but also are activated by fire

  • @ntamsma
    @ntamsma 10 місяців тому +5

    Never would have realized this. Love the show!

  • @jjptech
    @jjptech 10 місяців тому +8

    Can you continue this video by talking about trees that only spread seed when submited to fire?

  • @DaydreamerWonderland
    @DaydreamerWonderland 10 місяців тому +10

    This episode SLAPPED! I learned so much in 12mins it’s an absolute masterpiece, congrats to the writing!

  • @erictaylor5462
    @erictaylor5462 10 місяців тому +2

    You can have fire on planets or moons if they have a flammable atmosphere such as methane (Titan) or hydrogen.
    On Earth we put a bunch of stuff (fuel) in one place and the oxidizer comes from the air.
    In a place like Titan you put a bunch of oxidizer in one place and the fuel comes from the air.

  • @MaekarManastorm
    @MaekarManastorm 8 місяців тому +126

    Why only Uranus has Gas

  • @j__r0d
    @j__r0d 10 місяців тому +5

    man, this episode is 🔥 (jokes aside...I now understand why it's called the CARBONiferous period!)

  • @karlmark9967
    @karlmark9967 10 місяців тому +5

    I've always wondered how a planet with so much oxygen back then never got it self set on fire. It really was on fire. This topic is Lit.

  • @takenname8053
    @takenname8053 10 місяців тому +9

    Never realized this, until you pointed out how lightning and burning plasma are completely different things.

  • @punditgi
    @punditgi 7 місяців тому +1

    Kallie is beautiful and irresistible. And she has a charming way of presenting science. Brava, signora! ❤🎉😊

  • @Renoroc
    @Renoroc 10 місяців тому +1

    I'd love a sail like the Dimetrodon.

  • @Osterbaum
    @Osterbaum 10 місяців тому +5

    An overview of the evolution of plants would be a useful episode.

    • @WAMTAT
      @WAMTAT 10 місяців тому +2

      That would need to be several episodes. Plants are ... complex

    • @blazer9547
      @blazer9547 22 дні тому

      ​@@WAMTAT what is not complex

  • @8SnowBalls8
    @8SnowBalls8 10 місяців тому +9

    "Nucular" --- I died ☠

  • @RocLobo358
    @RocLobo358 10 місяців тому +11

    I guess our early ancestors were right to worship fire. It really is quite something

  • @kamikazestryker
    @kamikazestryker 9 місяців тому +1

    fire is really a driving agent of life :)

  • @mattb8778
    @mattb8778 9 місяців тому +1

    Has the author visited every planet in the universe to come up with that conclusion

  • @tOGGLEwAFFLES
    @tOGGLEwAFFLES 10 місяців тому +5

    So is it not actually fire if a different oxidizer causes something to combust?

    • @KangwithoutaKangdom
      @KangwithoutaKangdom 10 місяців тому

      Excellent question

    • @sydhenderson6753
      @sydhenderson6753 10 місяців тому

      @@KangwithoutaKangdom Still fire.

    • @Goro_Maj1ma
      @Goro_Maj1ma 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@sydhenderson6753Nope! At least not by this videos logic.

  • @aididdat1749
    @aididdat1749 10 місяців тому +8

    1:14 "Or two molecules of oxygen bonded together." There was a mistake here. It's "atoms" and not "molecules"

  • @clivematthews95
    @clivematthews95 10 місяців тому +8

    Thank you for always showing us that the earth is always telling its telling story, and all of us fit and are accounted for. Y’all are very intelligent, to be able to reveal that fire is so integral to the diversity of life on land, like wow!
    I thought mercury probably has fire too since it’s so close to the sun, but now when I think about 🤔 it doesn’t have fuel and subsequently oxygen either 😅

  • @joshuaguting7952
    @joshuaguting7952 6 місяців тому

    This was the most beautiful video ever that came from this channel.

  • @meandyouagainstthealgorith5787
    @meandyouagainstthealgorith5787 10 місяців тому +1

    Variable vegetative resistance to fire is one driving force in evolution. As mentioned grasses hide their fuel underground, but just as important the fuel does not get hot enough to burn organic matter in the upper few centimeters of soil. Where forests become very hot, the organic matter burns and rocks splinter leaving lack of cover, erosion and mudslides.

  • @Fiery25123
    @Fiery25123 10 місяців тому +6

    Beautifully written. I would add an addendum to say Earth is the only planet with Fire we've discovered so far, however.
    Much as I would personally ascribe Fire to the stars as well, that's neither here nor there. We owe a lot to Fire, and I wish this went more in-depth about it.

    • @krishadyn5211
      @krishadyn5211 10 місяців тому +1

      If fire is just a hot gas that glows, that broadens it a bit.