@@0The_Farlander0 I got banned from the Fear Factory Steam Community Hub for "unwarranted aggression" after I hit them with this: FNtastic: "We value transparency!" Also FNtastic: _"Fuck your opinions"_
I honestly feel like The Day Before was one of those scams that went too well; it had so much money and attention invested in it that by the time they tried to dip, the bag was too heavy to run off with.
@@kevadu Mostly due to the attention they garner. Every day, crypto wallets get hacked for $10,000 USD but no one hears or cares because there are 10 hacks of $10 billion a day at this rate
Hell kira mentions in this that this was their usual scam method. They just vastly over estimated how much people wanted a detailed zombie game. State of decay is technically what the day before offered in alot of ways. Its just not as polished as this was advertised as. If the company that made it released a 3rd game. With updated tech and graphics. It'd probably grab the audience the day before tried to scam
@@legojay14 State of Decay always felt like a game with so much potential... but they just never really did enough. There's gold in those hills and they seem content to mine copper.
Dude...that character model on their twitter is literally Frank Stone. From the very recent Supermassive/DBD game The Casting of Frank Stone. Its hilarious how they're still doing what their devs said caused a huge problem. Seeing a new game they liked and attempting to add things they liked about it to their own game on a whim. Its so good.
No no no didn't you see their response? "We understand that at first glance there may seem to be similarities, especially due to the gray colour and neutral background typical for 3D models. However, upon closer inspection you can see that our works differ in details." See? Totally diffefuck it I can't keep the charade up. It's the same. It's exactly the same. These guys are goddamn thieves on top of being scammers.
@@tdotsmoothThey have released games, and some seemingly enjoyed a few of them to some degree. But I guess someone will call me a bot or something for saying facts that will not fit the hate narrative.
@@Lenariet They created onel game that people somewhat enjoyed for being a semi-competent DBD clone. Except, it didn't last and died within a few months, so no, they haven't actually had anything that one would call properly successful.
I wouldn’t say you’re milking it mate. I genuinely see you as the one stop channel to find out what’s going on. I always like to know what’s going on with shady devs and I look no further than you! Also, your 2nd channel is seriously the bomb! 👍🏻
"It was easy, man. They were going door to door asking if anyone knew any game devs. I said look no further. They asked me if I knew anything about MMOs. I said as much as anyone I'd ever met. They asked me how well I understood game design theory. I said I had a theoretical degree in game design. They said welcome aboard. I'm in charge. This whole operation depends on me. No Fntastic, no game. Got the whole NCR suckling my teats, and it feels so good."
Steam refunded because it wasn't like a "request a refund" thing, it was a forcible refund and removal from people's steam accounts which is really only something that can be done by steam.
I have NEVER seen a dev team just go "Hey, we cancelled this kickstarter, but some guys said they wanted another game, so guess we're doing that now!" What the actual fuck.
Honestly those devs blaming youtubers for their game failing is so laughable. Id like to sit them down in a room and show them all the videos they released in order and then the game they released and have them tell me with a straight face that they didnt fuck anything up.
kinda is in this case. They moved to discord because there they have the power to silence any detractors to only keep the dumbasses. Isolation is the first step to manipulation, it's part of the grift.
Step 1: Take free assets from the asset store Step 2: Raise some money and buy premade assets from the asset store Step 3: Make "Trailers" using those assets that has inconsistency and show no gameplay at all Step 4: Lie saying "we never used free or paid assets" step 5: Release a "Gameplay Trailer" that isn't gameplay trailer Step 6: Release the game and come to find out those who bought the game realize it's a scam Step 7: Steam see's you are scamming their community and shuts you down Step 8: Blame everyone else about the scam game that you made. and tell everyone the reason it's bad is the streamers and youtubers Step 9: Rebrand and make a new game just to scam more people since the first time it failed Step 10: When it doesn't gain traction go back to blaming everyone that the reason the games funding isn't doing good
So they gone, then they back, then they gone, then they back, then they "For sure" gone.........and now they back. This anime with "the day before" developers will never end, and Kira, I"M ALL FOR IT. Continue the video sagas on these guys. xD
@@macrohotline8834 let’s not get too much into politics here, but it’s more than just that. The entire state of the Russian society is just dire and depressing from within. 😕
@@macrohotline8834 That's false, Yankee, why do you lie about easily researchable stuff? Putin is very popular in Russia, your designed compradors are unpopular. The Russians know that you intend to inflict untold miseries upon them like you did in the '90s, they learned their lesson after trusting you the first time. There are other options, there were other 2 candidates in the election. That's more candidates than any election you have, by the way and they have more ideological differences between them, while Orange Trump and KKKamala Harris basically agree on everything.
The reason they're convinced people really want a Prophunt "spiritual successor" is because, like, two or three people left replies on their tweets about Escape Factory last month that they liked Prophunt. Not joking around or memeing or whatever, that's seriously what happened.
at first, I thought it was "The day before developers just can't stop..." instead of "The Day Before developers just can't stop..." then I saw Fntastic
Thing is with second chances they have to do well....good things before coming back with the begging bowl in their hand, though with what i gather its less a second chance and more like a 5th or 6th chance lol
When they say "we are getting lots of inquiries from our fans about the new prophunt game" they are lying twice. First : nobody really gives a toss about the new game. Second : the studio has no fans. It's just that some people miss Propnight. It was halfway decent & did have a few fans. All of whom despise the studio with a burning passion.
its easy to get that poll's results. Just send a poll to 100K people. Then only publish a pie chart of the people who responded. The real pie chart is probably "99% did not give a **** enough to respond" respond, less than 1 percent said they'd like to see this game. If a poll doesn't tell you how many people were offered the chance to respond....its being disingenuous (like pretty much any poll ever used to argue for a case).
After a week, I'm still trying to animate doors that actually work. Day 1: Door opens, flies off the hinges, smacks player in the face. Day 3: Opens & closes... at the same time. Now a high-speed revolving door of doom. Day 5: Finally opens and closes, but only when it feels like it. Day 7: Victory! The door works... until it doesn't.🤣
before i watch the video, the very first thing that looks odd to me is their (new?) logo that looks suspiciously like the twitch icon. atleast in borders and overall design.
It's funny how some people will go "this negative attention only brings us more sales!!" and then when they fail turn around and go "it's your fault we failed!!!"
I posted in their discussions for escape factory an overview of all the scammy shit they've done i got banned for a month for speaking the truth. If anything this proves they are still trying to scam...
I was waiting for this video the SECOND I saw they pivoted from Escape Factory to a new prop hunt game. Insanity that people still keep feeding into them. What a fun story to follow. Love your content Kira, keep up the good work.
Kira, you don’t have to upload in the dark. I was just messing with you about your hair in the comments of your last video. You see I’m kind of a but hole. 🤷♂️
Kira, calling it a “game” is being super generous to them 😂 also I’m not trying to be weird but you’re looking really good the last few weeks so whatever you’re doing keep it up
These people should pay you for promotion of the game, probably 30 to 50 % of player base just bought it for the memes and see if its really that bad :D!!
People like this are wild. To have no shame or awareness of how people see you. I can't believe they are even trying, they were embarrassed on such a massive scale.
I swear they only decided to keep going with a different game after the kickstarter failed because a lot of people were asking for another prophunt game on the discord. There's an actual audience for it unlike the fall guys inspired game. That poll is sus but I stalk the discord and seems there's a cult following behind their previous prophunt game.
This is flipping hilarious, but one thing I dont quite understand is the opposite side where people are making videos on them Like what do you want them to do/expect them to do - off themselves? Seppuku and beg for forgiveness? I'm genuinely curious here, because im looking at this from a psychological pov, it seems like just from this company, every one of them are now ostracized from life itself
I already got banned from there for saying "If they failed the first kickstarter, what makes you think they will succeed on the second one?".
That's not even offensive. That's a legitimate question
@@0The_Farlander0 I got banned from the Fear Factory Steam Community Hub for "unwarranted aggression" after I hit them with this:
FNtastic: "We value transparency!"
Also FNtastic: _"Fuck your opinions"_
Thank you for your service.
Could you post the link?
You were silenced because you spoke the truth.
I honestly feel like The Day Before was one of those scams that went too well; it had so much money and attention invested in it that by the time they tried to dip, the bag was too heavy to run off with.
I think you're on to something. Lot's of lower profile scams *do* get away with it...
@@kevadu Mostly due to the attention they garner. Every day, crypto wallets get hacked for $10,000 USD but no one hears or cares because there are 10 hacks of $10 billion a day at this rate
Hell kira mentions in this that this was their usual scam method.
They just vastly over estimated how much people wanted a detailed zombie game. State of decay is technically what the day before offered in alot of ways. Its just not as polished as this was advertised as. If the company that made it released a 3rd game. With updated tech and graphics. It'd probably grab the audience the day before tried to scam
It didn't help that you had a bunch of scum streaming it on twitch because "haha guys being scammed is funny haha".
@@legojay14 State of Decay always felt like a game with so much potential... but they just never really did enough.
There's gold in those hills and they seem content to mine copper.
just realised their new logo is just the Twitch font
The name for their new game is "Items" lol...I'm gonna take a wild guess and say these guys haven't had an original idea in their lives! lol
Are any of their ideas even theirs?
@@seacatlol831 doubtful
@@Pinkscales Considering they cribbed off of TLOU that's a concrete assessment.
@@seacatlol831 I am amazed they have had the balls to try come back lile nothing happened
Dude...that character model on their twitter is literally Frank Stone. From the very recent Supermassive/DBD game The Casting of Frank Stone. Its hilarious how they're still doing what their devs said caused a huge problem. Seeing a new game they liked and attempting to add things they liked about it to their own game on a whim. Its so good.
No no no didn't you see their response?
"We understand that at first glance there may seem to be similarities, especially due to the gray colour and neutral background typical for 3D models. However, upon closer inspection you can see that our works differ in details."
See? Totally diffefuck it I can't keep the charade up. It's the same. It's exactly the same. These guys are goddamn thieves on top of being scammers.
Oh god you’re right. That is hilariously sad!
Let’s hope they pull a DMCA and then sue their butts.
"We forgot how hard it was developing a new game, so we're going to polish a turd we previously released instead"
It's like if Peter Molyneux had twins.
😂 at least molyneux had a couple of a successful games in the past. These dudes have never done anything and never will.
@@tdotsmoothThey have released games, and some seemingly enjoyed a few of them to some degree. But I guess someone will call me a bot or something for saying facts that will not fit the hate narrative.
@@Lenariet They created onel game that people somewhat enjoyed for being a semi-competent DBD clone. Except, it didn't last and died within a few months, so no, they haven't actually had anything that one would call properly successful.
@Lenariet from what I've seen, propnite was OK, wild 8 was mid and radient one was decent. The rest were aweful
@@Lenariet Unfortunately, all those games are abandoned or sold out
"my camera's not on, is it?" Proceeds to turn on camera and sit in complete darkness
I miss the kitties that also wanted to talk when they heard him recording.
Hiding the ladyboy napping on the couch in the background
“The grift that keeps of grifting” 😂😂😂😂 that’s effing gold!
I wouldn’t say you’re milking it mate. I genuinely see you as the one stop channel to find out what’s going on. I always like to know what’s going on with shady devs and I look no further than you!
Also, your 2nd channel is seriously the bomb! 👍🏻
"It was easy, man. They were going door to door asking if anyone knew any game devs. I said look no further. They asked me if I knew anything about MMOs. I said as much as anyone I'd ever met. They asked me how well I understood game design theory. I said I had a theoretical degree in game design. They said welcome aboard. I'm in charge. This whole operation depends on me. No Fntastic, no game. Got the whole NCR suckling my teats, and it feels so good."
That's a Fantastic reference
@@roflBeck Its a fantastic Fantastic reference in reference to Fntastic
...this came from Fallout NV 😸
I wouldn't be surprised if Fantastic from NV was behind every failed kickstarter
🐐
Kira's room is darker in every video until we only see black and a voice ranting about grifts from the depths of the darkness.
Kiras ghost in the fog
I enjoy this drama almost as much as Keeping Up with the Kaspians.
Dito!
Steam refunded because it wasn't like a "request a refund" thing, it was a forcible refund and removal from people's steam accounts which is really only something that can be done by steam.
I have NEVER seen a dev team just go "Hey, we cancelled this kickstarter, but some guys said they wanted another game, so guess we're doing that now!"
What the actual fuck.
"Over 1303 people"? So...like...1304?
Honestly those devs blaming youtubers for their game failing is so laughable. Id like to sit them down in a room and show them all the videos they released in order and then the game they released and have them tell me with a straight face that they didnt fuck anything up.
I don't think this is the developers, probably just the 2 brothers in charge of the company who were basically the root cause of everything
Quitting Twitter is not a bad move, in general at least.
kinda is in this case. They moved to discord because there they have the power to silence any detractors to only keep the dumbasses. Isolation is the first step to manipulation, it's part of the grift.
@@Ins4n1ty_ Yeah, it is. Creates a small echo chamber.
Yeah, it's like quitting cutting yourself. You can only go up from there 😅
rule 1 of bad business
make contacting you difficult
Yeah if they're liars who want to control conversation, they shouldn't be on twitter now.
It’s the like Temu version of the Paul brothers.
Step 1: Take free assets from the asset store
Step 2: Raise some money and buy premade assets from the asset store
Step 3: Make "Trailers" using those assets that has inconsistency and show no gameplay at all
Step 4: Lie saying "we never used free or paid assets"
step 5: Release a "Gameplay Trailer" that isn't gameplay trailer
Step 6: Release the game and come to find out those who bought the game realize it's a scam
Step 7: Steam see's you are scamming their community and shuts you down
Step 8: Blame everyone else about the scam game that you made. and tell everyone the reason it's bad is the streamers and youtubers
Step 9: Rebrand and make a new game just to scam more people since the first time it failed
Step 10: When it doesn't gain traction go back to blaming everyone that the reason the games funding isn't doing good
Missed opportunity to coin the phrase “The grift that keeps on griving”. We need this.
So they gone, then they back, then they gone, then they back, then they "For sure" gone.........and now they back.
This anime with "the day before" developers will never end, and Kira, I"M ALL FOR IT. Continue the video sagas on these guys. xD
This time it's going to be a great game! This time it won't be a scam! I can't wait to pay for early access!
You've heard of Todd in the Shadows, now get Kira in the Dark
I would totally watch a Kira workout video
The kickstarter will definitely go fntasticly
83% support, it sounds like a Putin poll
Might as well be, since the developer is Russian. Same reason the lies and grift aren't surprising, either.
Well we have no good alternatives and those 83 percent is Small portion of an actuall population
@@macrohotline8834 let’s not get too much into politics here, but it’s more than just that. The entire state of the Russian society is just dire and depressing from within. 😕
@@macrohotline8834 That's false, Yankee, why do you lie about easily researchable stuff?
Putin is very popular in Russia, your designed compradors are unpopular.
The Russians know that you intend to inflict untold miseries upon them like you did in the '90s, they learned their lesson after trusting you the first time.
There are other options, there were other 2 candidates in the election.
That's more candidates than any election you have, by the way and they have more ideological differences between them, while Orange Trump and KKKamala Harris basically agree on everything.
@@TomJakobW It is depressing for western leeches like you who intend to colonize Russia, because you are not allowed to do that.
I guess it's because I listened to the video on 2x speed, but whenever Kira said "Prop Hunt game" I heard "problem game", which... mostly still fits!
Oh my lord, they still believe they can get a Kickstarter funded after no one paid for the last one?
Here we go... again. Cheers, Kira.
The gift that keeps on shitting.
The grift that keeps on grifting.
Please let this end up being an elaborate troll by someone impersonating them
Not gonna lie, I'm more Interested in what Mia Khalifa is saying about the US military than what fntastic are trying to pass of as a game
Who's mia khalifa
The reason they're convinced people really want a Prophunt "spiritual successor" is because, like, two or three people left replies on their tweets about Escape Factory last month that they liked Prophunt.
Not joking around or memeing or whatever, that's seriously what happened.
Granted, Prop Hunt was still a better game than The Day Before.
I am very interested on the legitimacy of that poll.
I am surprised steam and others will allow them anywhere near there disruption service/shops
It costs money to make game listings on those platforms, so as long as they're paying that fee Steam and the like don't care.
Probably on probation
"Just one more kickstarter. Just one more."
Clown PR speak is very fascinating
Kira's room is getting progressively darker... spooky
"we're going to create a new crypto token based on so many inquiries we're getting from our massive and loyal fan base" - Russian grifters (allegedly)
"1303 people expressed their support" lil bro thought imagination is counted
"Influencers" have never made me avoid a good game. You and others however, have definitely helped me avoid repugnant stinkers like The Day Before.
at first, I thought it was "The day before developers just can't stop..." instead of "The Day Before developers just can't stop..." then I saw Fntastic
Blink twice if you're in some1's basement against your will and no lights
What do you do with all the free time you created by using a '1' instead of typing 'one'?
I'll never forget the day before alarms
More Kira? It's a GREAT day!
Thing is with second chances they have to do well....good things before coming back with the begging bowl in their hand, though with what i gather its less a second chance and more like a 5th or 6th chance lol
When they say "we are getting lots of inquiries from our fans about the new prophunt game" they are lying twice. First : nobody really gives a toss about the new game. Second : the studio has no fans. It's just that some people miss Propnight. It was halfway decent & did have a few fans. All of whom despise the studio with a burning passion.
They want Propnight, but done by someone else
its easy to get that poll's results. Just send a poll to 100K people. Then only publish a pie chart of the people who responded. The real pie chart is probably "99% did not give a **** enough to respond" respond, less than 1 percent said they'd like to see this game. If a poll doesn't tell you how many people were offered the chance to respond....its being disingenuous (like pretty much any poll ever used to argue for a case).
"If Escape Factory fails we'll go away forever!" Escape Factory fails, they try and convince people to fund a different game.
oi....
After a week, I'm still trying to animate doors that actually work.
Day 1: Door opens, flies off the hinges, smacks player in the face.
Day 3: Opens & closes... at the same time. Now a high-speed revolving door of doom.
Day 5: Finally opens and closes, but only when it feels like it.
Day 7: Victory! The door works... until it doesn't.🤣
trying a new angle saying if our mobile games sell then there will definitely be a new prop hunt game so consider buying our trash
This is what happens when people with little or no game dev knowledge try to "manage" the development of a game.
If they spent even half the energy they do scamming on actually developing a game they'd probably make more money.
Someone called me friend(o) today 👍
I would not bother joining their Discord, their head mod is on a power trip and bans anyone who does not supports them and also blames Mytona for TDB.
before i watch the video, the very first thing that looks odd to me is their (new?) logo that looks suspiciously like the twitch icon. atleast in borders and overall design.
It's funny how some people will go "this negative attention only brings us more sales!!" and then when they fail turn around and go "it's your fault we failed!!!"
Welcome back friendos
Man, they had the MOST wishlisted game OF THE WHOLE STEAM PLATFORM, anything that isnt making that game is just bs
I posted in their discussions for escape factory an overview of all the scammy shit they've done i got banned for a month for speaking the truth. If anything this proves they are still trying to scam...
Bro that intro actually was a “spit out cereal”-moment. Just a voice coming from the dark. 😂
I was waiting for this video the SECOND I saw they pivoted from Escape Factory to a new prop hunt game. Insanity that people still keep feeding into them. What a fun story to follow. Love your content Kira, keep up the good work.
Kiras ghost in the fog!
I love the non-exisistant lighting of your room lol
Sounds like they are trying to squeeze the well dry. Trying every angle to see what gets them better results on the cash flow.
Just one more kickstarter Arthur then we will go to Tahiti
Once a thief, always a thief
The Linkin Park jacket!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kira, you don’t have to upload in the dark. I was just messing with you about your hair in the comments of your last video. You see I’m kind of a but hole. 🤷♂️
What up legend love ya work!
It's a smidge dark there man! :D
How many rooms did Kira switch in the past few years ? I swear that every 10 videos, Kira is in a different recording room o.o
Kira, calling it a “game” is being super generous to them 😂 also I’m not trying to be weird but you’re looking really good the last few weeks so whatever you’re doing keep it up
These people should pay you for promotion of the game, probably 30 to 50 % of player base just bought it for the memes and see if its really that bad :D!!
Ah yes, another FNTASTIC video. The jokes keep writing themselves, eh?
It just keeps geting darker in kiras room
Free money is too good to pass up.
Haha I do rly love how up front you are about your motivations tho
Kira and JoshStrifeHayes destroying games left and right.
Must feel good to be sooo correct on this entire saga!!!
Dude, I didn't know you had a Dark Mode option!
They never make progress on their games cuz they're too busy moving goalposts all day.
0:37 wrong!
That was Concord!
At this point I believe this is some sort of a long-term social experiment
They're gaming cockroaches!!
Oh boy
People like this are wild. To have no shame or awareness of how people see you. I can't believe they are even trying, they were embarrassed on such a massive scale.
"they can't even just go away"
I swear they only decided to keep going with a different game after the kickstarter failed because a lot of people were asking for another prophunt game on the discord. There's an actual audience for it unlike the fall guys inspired game. That poll is sus but I stalk the discord and seems there's a cult following behind their previous prophunt game.
Makes me think it’s bots or something asking for it
At this point, gotta respect the hustle😂
Hey algorithm. Help Kira pay rent!
Jeez, I can't believe that these guys are still trying it on!!
Doing an absolutely F'n tastic job.
This is flipping hilarious, but one thing I dont quite understand is the opposite side where people are making videos on them
Like what do you want them to do/expect them to do - off themselves? Seppuku and beg for forgiveness?
I'm genuinely curious here, because im looking at this from a psychological pov, it seems like just from this company, every one of them are now ostracized from life itself
They'd do well to change their name to "Echo Chamber Games"
Yeah i have no idea how steam is letting this happen
I hope this never ends.
Too bad they already locked they Twitter replies, I loved going to they page and call them out
"Over 1303 people" is a weird thing to say.
Lfg thanks Kira 🐐
My friend, pay your bills and have them turn the lights back on.