Phil Donahue The issue of Race

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  • @maskedavenger9981
    @maskedavenger9981 7 років тому +305

    "Don't waste your time trying to explain yourself to a people committed to misunderstanding you"

    • @FarmerKamara
      @FarmerKamara 5 років тому +6

      Yes, that is partially correct. But we still need to, due to those who misunderstand having children who will inherit that false rhetoric that their parent(s) have for the oppressed and possibly use themselves. You can never be too careful in the United Snakes Of America, or the world in general.

    • @TogetherAtLast
      @TogetherAtLast 4 роки тому +7

      FACTS

    • @Laura-sg6ss
      @Laura-sg6ss 2 роки тому +2

      🔥👏🏽

    • @bunjicarlin1
      @bunjicarlin1 2 роки тому +5

      Deep!

    • @eganc1976
      @eganc1976 Рік тому

      When you see a person that has a lack of pigment, a lack of melanin, they fear that they will be annihilated,” "So, therefore, however they got the power, they had a lack of compassion. Melanin comes with compassion, melanin comes with soul. We call it soul. You know soul brothers and sisters. That’s the melanin that connects us. So the people that don’t have it, and I’m going to say this carefully, are a little less

  • @Candy173828
    @Candy173828 9 років тому +164

    Bin Wahad & Sista Souljah are the only ppl on the panel that are speaking for the ppl in urban communities.

    • @tyronewade5788
      @tyronewade5788 6 років тому +3

      Renee Martin Tony Brown had some good points

    •  4 роки тому +3

      It's like listening to two poets, the way they speak, I love it

  • @danielmchale4773
    @danielmchale4773 10 років тому +199

    20 years later sister soulja is stil correct.

  • @shahluva.avti.christos
    @shahluva.avti.christos 8 років тому +196

    People of Color have to educate themselves, and not expect White America to "embrace you," they won't. - Sista Souljah
    💖💖💖💖💪💪💯

    • @henryovalles7311
      @henryovalles7311 7 років тому +4

      shahluva EDUCATING THEMSELVES MEANS NOT WHITE TV NOT WHITE SCHOOLS SYSTEM NOT WHITE POLITICIANS SELLING THE PS WHITE AGENDA ALL DAY EVERYDAY

    • @shahluva.avti.christos
      @shahluva.avti.christos 7 років тому

      Henry Ovalles ¯\_(ツ)_/¯👏👏👍👍💖💖💖💯

    • @Zarasha1
      @Zarasha1 7 років тому +4

      Avti Christos_Memnon_\m/_FeroLvx_Race of Iron Thank you. After my son started school I do not trust the school system. My son is not learning. The school system cannot deny that my son is really smart so why is he not learning anything new? Now I stopped depending on the system. I am teaching him myself. We need to stop depending on others to help us.

    • @devinmichaelroberts9954
      @devinmichaelroberts9954 4 роки тому

      @@henryovalles7311 stop yelling at everyone.

    • @sassygreen5024
      @sassygreen5024 2 роки тому

      Thats what we been doing it ourselves ITS NOT WORKING CAUSE NOBODY I SEE KNOWS NO MORE THAN ME WHERE ARE THE 1NS THAT KNOW TRUTH YET NOT TELL IT?????? WE HAVE TO PAY THEM ITS NOT FREE

  • @toniahawkins9152
    @toniahawkins9152 9 років тому +101

    Sista Soulja! Wow, I love this woman's brain! She is exceptional!

  • @dhew2001
    @dhew2001 9 років тому +202

    It's funny how this was nearly 25 years ago and we're still talking about the same things, yet they're saying on this show that they were talking about the same things 25 years ago lol.

    • @taelovesyoutaelovesyou3591
      @taelovesyoutaelovesyou3591 6 років тому +24

      Cuz ain't shit change!

    • @frankbutler9512
      @frankbutler9512 4 роки тому +8

      Tells you the game.

    • @mr.enigma4475
      @mr.enigma4475 4 роки тому +10

      This was being spoken and written about since the days of Fredrick Douglass. This has sadly been old news for way too long.

    • @cynique46
      @cynique46 2 роки тому +1

      Very laughable because African Americans are still being discriminated against, dealing with police brutality and white supremacy sadly Amerikkka ain’t nothing change and it’s about to be 2022.

    • @dhew2001
      @dhew2001 2 роки тому +3

      Right, the cycle will keep repeating if we stay the same.

  • @autumnrose6370
    @autumnrose6370 8 років тому +140

    Sista Soulja... still powerful and working hard for our people.. 20 plus years later - Thank you sis..

  • @blackpeoplestuffcreatingab3783
    @blackpeoplestuffcreatingab3783 8 років тому +163

    one of the greatest debates EVER!!! in the history of television.

    • @angeljohnson6665
      @angeljohnson6665 5 років тому +3

      BLACK PEOPLE STUFF creating abundance yes amen

    • @Laura-sg6ss
      @Laura-sg6ss 2 роки тому +2

      @Greta Thanos u recessive accident

    • @skip031890
      @skip031890 Рік тому

      Uh, no. 🙄

  • @juniorkgreen
    @juniorkgreen 10 років тому +241

    Here we are 20 years later, in same or worst conditions. It takes more than a discussion, but action.

    • @jusjoshandthemic
      @jusjoshandthemic 10 років тому +8

      Discussion is a form of action. These conversations are important. These conversations are often avoided. (Even though the power setup in this conversation was not healthy.) It takes a lot of things. That's why I always tell people to utilize all our strengths while developing others as leaders/activists/organizers. Some of us are great at organizing rallies, some are great at leading different trainings, some are great at being representatives for debates/meetings, some of us use our artistic talents to promote a cause, etc. Change takes many actions, including discussion.

    • @juniorkgreen
      @juniorkgreen 10 років тому +7

      Joshua McCool I agree, but many of these discussions end once they're dismissed. I enjoy them honestly, and I believe they are constructive, but they are useless if action or at least a plan isn't formulated out of it.

    • @jusjoshandthemic
      @jusjoshandthemic 10 років тому +3

      That's my thing. You keep saying "action". Discussion and bringing awareness is action. Believe it or not this discussion/debate has not only motivated many people to do what they can but educated them as well. There is nothing useless about this discussion. It is important to value a form of action for what it is and does in itself. You are only looking at what it ISN'T doing but we can do that with any form of action.

    • @KUSHIONS1
      @KUSHIONS1 10 років тому +1

      Bullets

    • @juniorkgreen
      @juniorkgreen 10 років тому +6

      Joshua McCool
      Discussion does bring awareness, but what good is being aware of a problem if its still not going to be fixed? This video was taped approx. 20 years ago and we are STILL plagued with the same problems. We talked about it... we're aware of it... now what?

  • @ashnar82
    @ashnar82 9 років тому +88

    You will never get discussions like these on mainstream media stations today. Now all we get for news is Hollywood stories, sports 24/7, or the latest internet sensation. The topic discussed here is unsafe because it'll make people think. That is a bad thing in today's society.

    • @kidDooWhop
      @kidDooWhop 8 років тому

      +Sarah Simon where exactly ?

    • @badgyrl310
      @badgyrl310 8 років тому +8

      +ashnar82 Exactly, cause they want to keep people sleeping, so they numb their minds with bullshit that doesn't matter rather than inform people of relevant, important information to wake us up.

    • @kb72977
      @kb72977 4 роки тому +3

      These types of conversations don't make most ppl think, it exposes the fraudulent, illegitimate society that has been established on the grounds of inhumanity, criminal enslavement and capitalization of human misery.

    • @mariamsesay9391
      @mariamsesay9391 3 роки тому

      Right. The thing that kills a people/nation is the lost of history. There is a saying a tree without its roots is dead and that is the state in which some blacks are now in 2021.

  • @kyrathedestroyer_
    @kyrathedestroyer_ 8 років тому +55

    Damn Sister Souljah is so well spoken❤️ I love it❤️ It's great to see an intelligent, well spoken black woman speak on a large platform

    • @seanrobin6573
      @seanrobin6573 6 років тому +1

      Most Definitely

    • @conversationswithqkingz
      @conversationswithqkingz Рік тому

      She was younger then and even younger when she the woman we have always known her to be. Also I think it’s fair to say Dhoruba Bin Wahad may have been one of the first to use the term “White Male Privilege”. I don’t remember hearing it back then not how we hear it now or even White folks that speak to and against. And I remember seeing this but I can’t remember hearing it and using it like I do now. But that speaks to the fact of how unnecessarily long progress takes. 🫶🏿

  • @djuanowens5472
    @djuanowens5472 8 років тому +80

    Sister Souljah was speaking unadulterated truth. A striking contrast from ANYTHING I hear on mainstream media these days.

  • @ThatGworl2023
    @ThatGworl2023 10 років тому +115

    Sister Souljah shutting them down left and right. Love this woman.

  • @nicoleniccii2533
    @nicoleniccii2533 10 років тому +107

    33:00..."You're making a moral appeal to a country that has no moral conscious"!!! Queen SoulJah be spittin' straight FIYAH so transparently. i LOVED her plea to the youth at the end for her closing, 'To be careful of the insincere leaders'. Truthfully we all should be mindful of the "agents" on UA-cam trollin!!!'

    • @seanrobin6573
      @seanrobin6573 6 років тому +1

      Exactly

    • @maninotbougie4479
      @maninotbougie4479 6 років тому +2

      Where was i for years ago under a rock? Lol! I was born with a fuck negative opinion focus on my own opinion. Dont rely on whites to help you after what was established by their own

  • @mariamsesay9391
    @mariamsesay9391 9 років тому +97

    😂😂, the white guy who spoke first though. so because black people can eat and go to the same toilet as you means its progress, i almost fell of my bed man his not even doing enough job to hide his racist stupidity. I have many respect for Mr Wahad and Sister Souljah for speaking truth without fear, because there's nothing to fear. Fear is a state of mind, the only one i fear is God. You point a gun to my head I'll say its not me your killing.

  • @williamsnow6739
    @williamsnow6739 10 років тому +69

    the brother is dope,he refused to let those cops kill him..

  • @mrkingssizesnicker
    @mrkingssizesnicker 9 років тому +62

    All man I'm a African American Man in my middle 40's an Dr. Connell West disappointed me. Thank you as always Sista Soulja for hitting the panel and everyone on UA-cam hard. I understand 100% what you're talking about. And big ups to the brother who was wrongfully convicted sorry 19 years for riding hard with Siesta Soulja. The both of yall shut those so called educated negros and white folks down. Black folks learn knowledge of self and this country.

  • @jamesboston9090
    @jamesboston9090 9 років тому +35

    Dhoruba Bin Wahad, Sista Souljah & Tony Brown really left a powerful imprint upon my mind & consciousness that makes me want to act upon these economic realities that cause the collective anguish of many African globally. There is nothing wrong with wanting to compete economically

    • @TaelurAlexis
      @TaelurAlexis 8 років тому

      I am in love with your comment.

    • @mariamsesay9391
      @mariamsesay9391 3 роки тому +3

      Yes brother, but be careful of forces that will try and destroy your efforts like sister Souljah said. The only way black people will succeed is if they come together with a collective mind which will then lead to a collective goal.

    • @VashTheDamnFiend
      @VashTheDamnFiend 2 роки тому

      @@mariamsesay9391 nah that’s not true

    • @mariamsesay9391
      @mariamsesay9391 2 роки тому +1

      @@VashTheDamnFiend wow your really full of original material. Anything else Mr one liner, you know you won’t be winning any debate anytime soon lol.

    • @VashTheDamnFiend
      @VashTheDamnFiend 2 роки тому

      @@mariamsesay9391 all I said is it’s not true what you said Mariam

  • @ronaldantoine1828
    @ronaldantoine1828 9 років тому +44

    SISTAH SOULJAH DEAD-ON, SPOT-ON & RIGHT-ON!!

  • @yogininamaste5105
    @yogininamaste5105 10 років тому +27

    Boy…the days when we used to actually discuss “The issues of race”. Regardless of the outcome, it was a conversation. Today, there are actually black people that believe we live in a “post racial” society since there is a black president. Thank God for Hidden Colors and 7am. We need to keep the discussion going in all of its authenticity. Seeing this, one can really see how asleep we are as a nation, many forlornly voluntarily others involuntarily.

    • @sanyarsan5875
      @sanyarsan5875 6 років тому +2

      Sela Ramadan a discussion us nothing without change. Just like marching. It's nothing.

    • @WordWoman111
      @WordWoman111 5 років тому +2

      Oprah came in and brought in all-white audiences and distraction.

  • @clarichae4301
    @clarichae4301 10 років тому +84

    This video was everything.
    "Where's the White outcry for White racism?"

    • @fusion772
      @fusion772 9 років тому +2

      I hear it all the time. A huge amount of whites nowadays complain quite regularly about what they call white privilege, white supremacism and institutional/systemic racism (allegedly run by white people in positions of power). Where is the white outcry against racism? In Hollywood, in academia, in the Social Sciences departments at many of our universities, etc.

    • @renzopeterson153
      @renzopeterson153 6 років тому

      fusion772 😂😂😂😂😁😁

    • @Peach1978100
      @Peach1978100 5 років тому +3

      Whewww.....I say the same thing in 2019! Nothing changed!

    • @uraharasshop3547
      @uraharasshop3547 4 роки тому

      fusion772 huh? Could you explain further?

    • @frankbutler9512
      @frankbutler9512 4 роки тому +1

      @@fusion772 But they don't fundamentally change who has and gets what.

  • @Terrence915
    @Terrence915 10 років тому +65

    Man, Sista Souljah and Tony Brown were the only two that made sense and was right. After 20 years nothing has changed. I spent the last 15 years in the Army. Now that I'm out, things feel the same way it did before I went in.

    • @fusion772
      @fusion772 9 років тому +2

      Did they make since, or did they make sense?

    • @Terrence915
      @Terrence915 9 років тому +3

      Dang, you're right, don't know how I missed that. Since didn't make sense.

    • @fusion772
      @fusion772 9 років тому

      Terrence Barnes Well, since didn't make sense since durn near 1922, last time I done seen it make sense.
      Having said that, do you really think that this angry, delusional woman makes any sense with the crazy, hysterical shit she has to say? If so, how come? She sounds like a really hypocritical twit to me, to be honest. But then again, I am just a privileged white boy over here.
      Perhaps I am missing something? Has America undergone a covert anti-black agenda sometime in recent history that I haven't heard about? Perhaps I am misinformed about this topic, I may come across as a total smartass, but if so I would be more than happyto be corrected and put in my place for being wrong. Seriously, though. I am open to different points of view on this topic so please don't hesitate to say what you have to say...

    • @Terrence915
      @Terrence915 9 років тому +1

      Well, things they talked about that if didn't change we would face them in the future. I hold both Democrats and Republicans responsible. When we as blacks talk about white supremacy, it doesn't mean all whites, we are talking about the ones who are screwing us , and you, over and over. Classism is the real issue. Racism is a tool used within classism to keep us divided so you can't see that we are in the same boat. That is a deep hatred between blacks a whites. When I was in the Army, it seemed like everything was getting better. But now since I am a out, I get treated, looked at, and stereotyped the same way I did before I went in 15 years ago. You can say what you want about her. Just because she is black doesn't mean I agree what everything she says. I am smart enough to pick out what is right and leave the dramatics to someone else. I believe her over message was right even though the delivery is not as tasteful.
      Just so you know, I don't play childish back and forth games and only believe in positive dialog. I am very open to different opinions as I have been all over the world and fought in Iraq.
      Dr. Umar Johnson talked about what would happen to blacks if Obama was elected in 2008. Everything he said was correct. You should look him up. Democrats and Republicans knew electing a half-baked president would distract us because of our hate. Now they're passing bills screwing us while we race baiting over who got killed by the police. I look at the bigger picture.

    • @fusion772
      @fusion772 9 років тому +1

      Terrence Barnes I agree that the two parties in America are terrible and don't work for the interests of Americans in general, including blacks. That's fair enough.
      With regards to the classism thing, I just think it's a simple matter that the lower and middle classes really don't get served well by the corrupt parties who are beholdent to special interest groups including corporations and banks. So there I somewhat agree with you, although I personally wouldn't use the term "classism" because that strikes me as sort of a leftist ideological term that isn't very useful. But that's just my opinion.
      I definitely agree there's a lot of resentment between blacks and whites. But don't you think that Sista Soulja is part of that problem? Look at how she spews all of this ugly, self-righteous hatred against white America, the woman has such a huge chip on her shoulder and I am just being honest when I say that she doesn't strike me as very well-educated about American history - instead she comes across as being extremely ignorant and obnoxious, and not very well informed from a factual point of view. The basic fallacy is assuming that Afrocentrism = "knowledge and wisdom" when it often is just about blaming the white man for all and sundry under the sun that's ever gone wrong on the entire planet (not a very reasonable point of view!). And you seem like an intelligent and reasonable person so I am sure you know what I am largely correct in that analysis (but of course, I am not going to put words in your mouth here, just wanted to throw my expectation out there though).
      I would respectfully point out that if the message is thrown out in not only a distateful but also a onesidedly anti-white way, then it becomes a bit odd to say that you believe in her message but also see what's messed up about it. She reminds me of Khalid Muhammed, I'm just surprised she doesn't use the slogan "white devil" (although maybe I just haven't heard her say it). Does she not notice that slavery existed in various societies around the world, that blacks often enslaved blacks, that various non-white societies were both imperialistic and specifically subjugated Africans as well? I suppose she is aware of this information but she sort of pushes it to the side because it gets in the way of making the white man the scapegoat for pretty much all of the problems of blacks. Not exactly intellectually honest, if you ask me. Not very honorable either. But surely she would just dismiss me as a white man who is "whitewashing history" or misrepresenting her, even though I have listened intently to hours worth of her speaking and am quite familiar with the nonsense that she puts out there.
      With regards to my sentence about 1922 I hope you realize I was just being silly and fooling around with you a bit, I seriously wasn't trying to be rude or disrespectful there. And I also hope you realize that just because I have contempt for Sista Soulja, it doesn't mean I have contempt for you. Again, you sound pretty reasonable - I am sure you will appreciate some of the points I make, even if I am a bit blunt about how I say it. I believe in real history and studying real history no matter where the truth takes me. I am aware that horrible things have been done to many blacks but I am sure you are aware of the suffering of other races as well including whites. How many white Russian people were enslaved in the Soviet Gulag? There were millions; how many whites in the days of the Roman Empire were enslaved? Millions, to my understanding. And those are just two particular examples that exist in history. Perhaps it is not fair to split hairs about which group has suffered the worst? I don't know, but it's worth asking that question.
      I agree with the point about positive dialogue. I think it's a positive thing that we're able to talk freely about these topics. Thanks for taking the time to read and respond.

  • @stephenbryant6622
    @stephenbryant6622 7 років тому +36

    Dhoruba Bin Wahad is my hero!!!!

  • @donovanmarcus289
    @donovanmarcus289 9 років тому +17

    Discussions like these are definitely needed more often in today's society. At the end of the day though when they get in their cars and head home reality will kick in again. With me, it happens every time. It's not until you drive through some of your "mainly white" neighborhoods when you see it. You see these nice restaurants with people actually eating outside, expensive cars, large homes, people walking their dogs(multiple) etc. You start thinking to yourself many of these people can give a dam about racism and what's going on in any other community besides their own. How could they when they live so comfortably? Many are just blinded by their environment. Outside of a television screen many wouldn't know "struggle" if it hit them in their faces. One of the issues I've experienced is they're too many people with these "I'm comfortable" like mentalities. It's like when people get enough money to satisfy their wants and needs they all of a sudden have the "keys to success". Everyone's journey is different. To end my rant it's mind-boggling after all these years we are still talking about this. For centuries we been having the wrong people wanting CHANGE. When these supremists start speaking change it will! They don't want it!

  • @Boobalopbop
    @Boobalopbop 10 років тому +186

    What ever happened to sister souljah? We need her voice these days.

    • @daviwilliam281
      @daviwilliam281 10 років тому +1

      She ended up by fucking with a white journalist

    • @mansamusa2012
      @mansamusa2012 10 років тому +4

      david williams Where and when did you hear this? Do you have any proof?

    • @MrsYoshi1222
      @MrsYoshi1222 10 років тому +1

      facebook.com/SisterSouljah

    • @mansamusa2012
      @mansamusa2012 10 років тому +2

      david williams Hold up I am sorry I thought you said she ended up fucking a white journalist. The same journalist that slandered her did the same to Prof. Griff

    • @oscarthibodaux8555
      @oscarthibodaux8555 10 років тому

      She can eat her own shit

  • @twilli8118
    @twilli8118 9 років тому +34

    You go Sista SoulJah and Dhoruba Bin Wahad

  • @davidscott1302
    @davidscott1302 8 років тому +27

    Tony Brown was on point when he said we can't spend all our money with the white people and then blame them we got to keep the money in our community and build love sister soldier though

  • @KiaRoane
    @KiaRoane 9 років тому +201

    Soooooooooooooooooooooooo why doesn't this video have more views?

    • @JohnniferLeigh
      @JohnniferLeigh 9 років тому +55

      Because, they're too busy watching Nicki shake her butt.

    • @ThyBrokenhartedx
      @ThyBrokenhartedx 9 років тому +2

      +Honestly Kia Hay girl, been peeping the channel. Your beautiful & I subbed!

    • @nayluv1868
      @nayluv1868 9 років тому +5

      +Honestly Kia because ppl don't want to be hip to whats really going on

    • @brandiderrick3701
      @brandiderrick3701 9 років тому +2

      +Johnnifer Washington who's is a sellout like beyonce.

    • @672sara
      @672sara 8 років тому +1

      Brandi Derrick boy bye beyonce has done more for black people spoke out and took a stand which is way more then I can say for some of you so try again

  • @Glori05
    @Glori05 7 років тому +10

    Sistah Souljah will forever be teh standard. I love her...she has inspired me in ways I can not explain.

  • @Sniffles68
    @Sniffles68 9 років тому +39

    Sister Souljah was SO brilliant...and SO goddamned CUTE!!!! She looked like a Black Cupie Doll....

  • @popsqualli1
    @popsqualli1 10 років тому +32

    Dear Black Family.....PLEASE SHARE THIS VIDEO

  • @mcwarhol17
    @mcwarhol17 8 років тому +83

    Where are these kinds of talks now in 2016 ...they are needed so badly instead we are talking about the Kardashians/Amber Rose/Taylor Swift and Trump .... Something about this world scares me....we do have some knowledge on issues but something more important is needed

    • @Mdap93
      @Mdap93 8 років тому +7

      These shows are definitely needed like you say these show now days don't teach nothing, Real Housewives,Love & HipHop etc. Nothing but ignorance my people will awake one day

    • @rosestewart1606
      @rosestewart1606 7 років тому

      Phil Donahue supported the right of self determination of tbe people of Palestine and so would many people who would be able to conduct shows like this. He had a lot of respect for his guests, enough that even if he disagreed with him he made sure their point was understood. You can't have shows like this in the US without getting into issues like that.
      BBC still does shows like this. Sometimes you have to change the channel and look for news elsewhere. You can't continue to support networks that are spoon feeding you what they want you to believe.
      He did an interview a few months ago about why Trump was elected ie. That MSM wasn't really talking about the issues that motivated voters...and people who chose not to vote.

    • @rosestewart1606
      @rosestewart1606 7 років тому

      Mt. Theodore Alan but there isn't one set of news for one skin colour and another network for the rest. I'm not sure how controlled dissemination of information is really a race issue. It's more of a class issue, but in the end it's a power issue.

    • @killlamas57
      @killlamas57 6 років тому +2

      Watch the Grapevine. I believe it will grow even bigger.

    • @Peach1978100
      @Peach1978100 5 років тому

      I agree! It's very needed in 2019 also.

  • @sircharlesii662
    @sircharlesii662 9 років тому +20

    Still having the same debates on CNN and FOX NEWS 20+ years later with the same words, facts, and statistics. Nothing has changed!

    • @blacmtg93
      @blacmtg93 9 років тому +2

      I'm starting to really think us screaming at the top of our lungs on this society's bullshit only gets sarcastically addressed. People carry on tradition. And the factual tradition of America is find those who can do it for us. We have been and still are the burden bearers of this nation. Nothing seems to have changed because we are an amazing business venture with a permanent contract under these leeches. Free your mind and travel home. Use your brain people. You were in the beginning so shall u be in the end.

  • @chicagomycity
    @chicagomycity 10 років тому +66

    Seriously Sister Soulja gave me life. Seriously this was 1992?? And damn 20 years later: same shit. We tried it your way Cornell......maybe lets try Sisters way.

    • @karlmarx809
      @karlmarx809 7 років тому +1

      MissChicago Sister has no solutions. She's a quick talking race hustler. It's all just bitching and finger pointing.

  • @blackaisatic
    @blackaisatic 10 років тому +13

    Looking back at this kinda crazy because this was over 20 years ago and shit still ain't change!

  • @geeksofwindsgayle
    @geeksofwindsgayle 9 років тому +23

    "People of hope" Cornel West said.....? Hope doesn't feed you. Hope doesn't make your people wealthy and alter communities. Hope is just an attitude. What we need is action. What we need is a legitimate strategy for our own people, blacks in America, to take a piece of the power pie. It's not about emotions, it's not about "there are good white people out there." Good white people? That doesn't matter, are you kidding? I care about my people becoming the producers and distributors and the entrepreneurs of America. I care about obtaining POWER, not a white plea of guilt.

    • @geeksofwindsgayle
      @geeksofwindsgayle 8 років тому +2

      +Sarah Simon pulling the black dollar together. Creating black business and supporting our own people. Prioritizing and less spending on white business. We are the reason white kids can afford expensive private institutions. Our dollar goes into their pockets. If we shift the direction of our money, the power shifts. That's one of many things that must happen.

  • @rbeygarcia
    @rbeygarcia 8 років тому +62

    Fuckin' hell. Sister Souljah for PRESIDENT!!!

    • @rbeygarcia
      @rbeygarcia 8 років тому +1

      Mt. Theodore Alan They said that about Obama. It can happen and we're just about tired enough. Dunno why shenever ran before, even for local government.

    • @rbeygarcia
      @rbeygarcia 7 років тому +1

      All in how you look at it. I mean he's one of the Presidents with less than 100 pardons during his eight years in the White House (64) which means he didn't take bribes (i mean, political donations) from rich people for that mess. Compare that to George W. Bush at 464, And Bill Clinton at 550 pardons. But those 64 Obey has are true pardons of people with no money or anyting to give him except thanks. People who were wrongfully incarcerated, or proven to be innocent through appeal, etc.

    • @rbeygarcia
      @rbeygarcia 7 років тому

      truth It's one example of how he operated. Just because you think you're entitled to some freebies as a black person for having a black president doesn't mean every one of color does. That's EXACTLY what white racists were expecting him to do. To go in there and turn the White House into the Black House, with barbecues, loud music, and every other stereotype that's out there. He doesn't have to send you a check for you to know he's representing black people well. He is a credit to his race, and has paved the way for future aspiring black politicians. The saying "Black President: that shit ain't never gonna happen!" has been reversed by this man. And, unfortunately for you, he did it by not acting a fool on the job and instead being professional. You're just gonna have to deal with that.

  • @Msjasminee
    @Msjasminee 7 років тому +17

    Watchin in 2017 and nothing has changed

  • @STTPlan
    @STTPlan 8 років тому +114

    I don't understand the confusion white people have sister soulja laid it out clearly

    • @renzopeterson153
      @renzopeterson153 7 років тому +14

      They don't know, and don't want to know. A lot of them suffer from symptoms of cognitive dissonance.

    • @mumuseer87
      @mumuseer87 5 років тому +8

      L Paterson they know. White people just like to play stupid when discussion about race is brought forth.

    • @jerometaylor4243
      @jerometaylor4243 5 років тому +3

      I know why, and she and I know white folks know she is stating facts! The thing is as mentioned earlier, they don't want to deal with their BS that THEY have caused! They know the history better than you and I do! So, I for one do not wait for any white man or anyone to educate me, when I can easily read books and talks and learn for myself and do for myself which I have DONE for years now!! It's at the point now, every man and woman for themselves!!

    • @WordWoman111
      @WordWoman111 5 років тому +4

      They know. To acknowledge they know means they have to take responsibility.

    • @ayehotah3887
      @ayehotah3887 5 років тому

      Several times over

  • @juliejewels9208
    @juliejewels9208 4 роки тому +7

    Re-watching in 2020. Just amazing. So very relevant today.

  • @MyJesusIsLord86
    @MyJesusIsLord86 6 років тому +10

    This discussion was soo enlightening and very informative! I enjoyed hearing my Sistars & Brothers speak so intuitively and intellectually! I understand now that it's just not about me, personally but US, collectively as Black people. We must still fight in order to attain & maintain power for our melanated people!

    • @skip031890
      @skip031890 2 роки тому

      No, thanks! Worry about yourself, please!

  • @R90909
    @R90909 6 років тому +29

    They really are a cunning bunch. I mean, how many years did it take from us having beautiful, educated, powerful sisters like Sister Souljah to the pinnacle of black femininity being twerking? We work hard but the enemy works 1000x harder. I'm actually astounded.

  • @Sokekajal
    @Sokekajal 9 років тому +6

    Wow, great talk, love Dhoruba Bin Wahad and Sister Souljah. The issues they're talking about is just as relevant today as they were then.

  • @reinaldogreen2079
    @reinaldogreen2079 9 років тому +7

    so glad to see this. I have it on vhs as I recorded it at the time it came out. Sister Souljah and Dhruba BiN Wahad stole the show.We need more people like them today.

  • @reginastrong5821
    @reginastrong5821 5 років тому +12

    The woman at min 6:49 is so throughly impressed with Sista Soulja. 😆 I feel you.

    • @elgeneralxx
      @elgeneralxx 4 роки тому

      Ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    • @justincarter9161
      @justincarter9161 4 роки тому +2

      I seen that too! Ok!

  • @Terrijennipher
    @Terrijennipher 4 роки тому +6

    2020 and this is still relevant ... I’m tired

  • @jsanders2004
    @jsanders2004 10 років тому +53

    Sista Souljah COME BACK!!!!

  • @dawn123ish
    @dawn123ish 5 років тому +7

    Donahue was truly one of the greatest talk show hosts of all time. To have so many African American thought leaders of the time sitting together and allowing the audience to watch them debate really shows us through multiple lenses, not in the stereotypical lens that we are often painted into in. While I agree with what everyone on this panel has said, Sistah Soulja represents the pain and anguish that we as black people feel in this country, but Cornel West represents hope and a future for our people. Both have a place in this discussion. I really enjoyed this. We don’t see these kinds of discussions anymore, but I also think maybe because white America is waking up and finally realizing the truths we as people of color have always known. I do see hope.

  • @melvinbridgewater4955
    @melvinbridgewater4955 5 років тому +4

    Sister Souljah Has Made It Clear Direct Fierce With Her Knowledge And How To Move Forward.

  • @Crillin112
    @Crillin112 10 років тому +26

    All that talking and STILL no economic aggregation. Sistah Souljah was right, most of those programs only end up serving the creme de la creme, never reaching the most vulnerable (where NONE of those prolific speakers focused their attention).
    I've always liked Dr. West, but he is not aggregating his resources with the core of Black folks, he's just a knowledge broker. Dr. Claude Anderson is one of the few with an actual plan....none of which Dr. West or any of them have supported.

  • @raelang199
    @raelang199 6 років тому +25

    Sister Souljah Was AND ALWAYS WILL BE THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @MadameLadyM
    @MadameLadyM 10 років тому +8

    Powerful stuff. I don't see conversations like this any more.

  • @ThatGworl2023
    @ThatGworl2023 10 років тому +77

    I want to meet the good white folks also. Haven't met any that will honestly say that there is a racism problem and black are getting the bad end of the deal.

    • @jusjoshandthemic
      @jusjoshandthemic 10 років тому +8

      That is one of the comments Soulja made that I do not agree with. I have met and fought for our rights with many white allies who fight every day side by side with black folks. It was an extreme and false statement. It is also a statement that distracts people from the conversation. Did you hear the distraction? The conversation switched into the white host defending EVERY INDIVIDUAL white person.lol That was not the point of her statements. Example. People use the terms "GOOD COP" and "BAD COP". The problem with that is that the issue is not every individual cop. The issue is the POWER that EVERY COP is given. If they didn't have the power it wouldn't be theirs to abuse in the 1st place. If you go to a CAPS meeting or other police/community meeting and scream "COPS ARE THE DEVIL" what happens to the conversation? The conversation goes from discussing the powers give to ALL COPS that CAN be abused to arguing on whether every cop is bad or good.

    • @ThatGworl2023
      @ThatGworl2023 10 років тому +1

      ***** thats unimportant. I can go on and on and show you how your nation has an A++ in riots that would make our riots look like pillow fights in the park. But like I said that's unimportant to you. You should fear 2019. This is when our nation rises above all. Black folks you want all this to stop, all the pain, frustration, torment these people have perpetrated upon us. Come out of idolatry. You're from the kingdom of Yasharal and you have no business in Christianity, islam, or any type of religion. Leave that new testament alone its not meant for us. The old testament is about us. 2019 is almost here and if you don't do as 2 Chronicles 7:14 you will suffer the same fate as your enemy.

    • @ThatGworl2023
      @ThatGworl2023 10 років тому

      ***** thats our next step to help wake up my brothers and sisters to their true identity which was raped and ripped from us by "good white folks"

    • @ThatGworl2023
      @ThatGworl2023 10 років тому

      ***** thats our next step to help wake up my brothers and sisters to their true identity which was raped and ripped from us by "good white folks"

    • @ThatGworl2023
      @ThatGworl2023 10 років тому

      Ison i found a good white person. Just wanted to let you know. Jody Westby is an example of the type of human being i would like to meet.

  • @keisha772
    @keisha772 2 роки тому +4

    Here in 2022....Nothing has changed.

  • @PaiBae
    @PaiBae 4 роки тому +5

    I love Sister Soulja, she always speaks truth to power.

  • @greendesertgoddess
    @greendesertgoddess 4 місяці тому +1

    After all these years and decades, nothing has changed much!

  • @khalidmax9534
    @khalidmax9534 9 років тому +8

    dhoruba bin wahad & Sista souljah where flamethrowers accurate perfect dialogue & articulate

  • @aaronnickey1
    @aaronnickey1 9 років тому +3

    This woman has the knowledge to Lead us in the direction we need to be. I thank her for all she said!

    • @jefferybeans3146
      @jefferybeans3146 6 років тому

      aaron nickey THIS QUEEN IS PLANTING SEEDS(KNOWLEDGE) SO THAT EVERY BLACK PERSON USE THE INNER LEADERSHIP WE POSSESS TO COME TOGETHER AND WALK TOGETHER/LEAD TOGETHER AS A WHOLE

  • @jusjoshandthemic
    @jusjoshandthemic 10 років тому +7

    "We are talking about power." Thank you. I agreed and disagreed with different things stated from different leaders but there is so much to take away from this debate. Take what you can to build change and throw the other things out.

  • @zoniapatreece1324
    @zoniapatreece1324 8 років тому +3

    I absolutely enjoyed this show, and wish there were more like it today

  • @theenergyisoff
    @theenergyisoff 10 років тому +23

    She spoke the truth ✊

  • @moisepicard3417
    @moisepicard3417 6 років тому +12

    THIS IS REALLY DEEP

  • @brandonrussell79
    @brandonrussell79 10 років тому +23

    The US government has never addressed the issues of White Supremacy and every time a Black person speaks out against the crimes of this country, we get undermined.
    It's only been 149 years since "chattel slavery" ended in the US. That is not a long time.

    • @shinybeast8946
      @shinybeast8946 4 роки тому

      There's always gonna be racist people, black and white.Judge people on they're individual merits.

    • @brandonrussell79
      @brandonrussell79 4 роки тому +1

      @nick smithI'm speaking in the United States. I don't give a damn how you classify non-whites globally. The East Indian is not the brother of Africans in Africa and so on....for example

  • @butterflylovenj7300
    @butterflylovenj7300 3 роки тому +2

    I will never forget going to see Sister Souljah and Chuck D speak when I was little. It was a powerful experience. ✊🏾🙏🏾❤️

    • @elgeneralxx
      @elgeneralxx 3 роки тому +1

      Look at the cute little butterfly

  • @erikandrus4387
    @erikandrus4387 8 років тому +16

    The many times I have Freudian slipped that America is a company and not a country...

    • @mansamusa2012
      @mansamusa2012 8 років тому +2

      You're right it is a corporation. Google United Stated Corporation and the Virginia Company.

  • @luvolwethusoga9605
    @luvolwethusoga9605 5 років тому +3

    2018 and Sister Souljah’s facts are still relevant

  • @Dreadboi1990
    @Dreadboi1990 8 років тому +24

    we as black American are so psychologically torn, that if we did separate and get our own nation. There's a high chance we are likely to inflict the same system of oppression own ourselves.

    • @psat21
      @psat21 8 років тому +11

      We do it already to dark skinned women, we oppress very own mother nature

    • @lshanal
      @lshanal 6 років тому

      That’s why we have to leave those Americanized Africans behind. They probably wouldn’t even want to leave.

    • @losgreensborogboro5804
      @losgreensborogboro5804 6 років тому +1

      This is true, we have been infected SMH.

  • @Mae-bu2wu
    @Mae-bu2wu 8 років тому +11

    And with all this discussions before I was born, things are still the same, nothing is changing. We are still having the same discussions now today in 2016, 20-22 years later. It has always been up to us black people. You get out make the money and go back and help your brother and sister. Don't forget what you left behind, go back into your communities and teach our younger generation our history, the importance of saving money and build each other up. All these black celebs could be doing it but they are sellouts just like the white man.

  • @calvinlandry03
    @calvinlandry03 10 років тому +9

    This is the single greatest discussion on racism I have ever seen. Gotta LOVE Sister Souljah, May God bless and keep her

  • @LewugaBenson
    @LewugaBenson 10 років тому +9

    we need more Sista Soulja's in this world. her observation of afrikan plight is as crisp and relevant in contemporary America as it was when the above debate convened.

  • @D_in_DC
    @D_in_DC 9 років тому +3

    This show first aired in the mid to early 90's and much of what was discussed then is still being discussed now.

  • @keaters123
    @keaters123 8 років тому +14

    There's so much wealth being taken from everyone, yet we ll fight each other. That's exactly what the owners want

    • @jcab404
      @jcab404 8 років тому +4

      Yep. They divert the blame onto the the poor, who have very little, so they can reap more and more.

  • @radical_like_khalid7765
    @radical_like_khalid7765 6 років тому +57

    They lucky Khalid muhhumad wasn't on the pannel that time smh

    • @kevinscott59
      @kevinscott59 6 років тому +1

      Radical_like_ KHALID
      You mean the black "radical" that shakes hands and makes peace treaties with Neo-Nazi leaders?
      Nigga,please.

    • @kahlilali4759
      @kahlilali4759 5 років тому

      Lol

    • @jerometaylor4243
      @jerometaylor4243 5 років тому +7

      @@kevinscott59 That's a lie and you know it! Don't even try it! nigga!!

    • @eazywork7192
      @eazywork7192 5 років тому +2

      Kevin Scott Elijah Muhammad you mean?

    • @mr.enigma4475
      @mr.enigma4475 4 роки тому

      And whats wrong with a peace treaty with Neo-Nazi leaders? Thats not only progress, but a testament to the idea that this problem of bigotry and hate isnt exclusive to only extremists.

  • @suzymoroka297
    @suzymoroka297 7 місяців тому +1

    I’m watching this in 2024 and I cannot believe that African American are still grappling with the same issues in America.
    Phil Donahue was way ahead of his time because I’ve watched some of his videos and it’s all very good

  • @yungbro5534
    @yungbro5534 10 років тому +4

    the guy on my far left was crying to recognize his parents who work(ed) hard WHILE HELPING TO MAINTAIN THE VERY INSTITUTIONS that put them at a disadvantage. Sista Soulja I think best understands that we're dealing with humanity AND family AND community AND government AND history; the most pragmatic of the speakers.

  • @ramonaportlockbrumfield9274
    @ramonaportlockbrumfield9274 4 роки тому +2

    Nothing has changed. We are still fighting for the same issues in 2020! Still!

  • @Shaftmanic05
    @Shaftmanic05 8 років тому +5

    I had to see this again for myself Sister Soulja is standing on her '"TRUTH" and the she is saying what she believes in most US as black ppl need to wake up and three R'S (REALIZE WITH REAL EYES REAL LIES) come on just because were live in a free nation state doesnt mean were FREE the oppression is still ALIVE and we need to address it..................THANK U SISTER SOULJA for taking a STAND ON THIS

  • @ThatGworl2023
    @ThatGworl2023 8 років тому +101

    I say we should separate.

    • @raceandcrime
      @raceandcrime 8 років тому

      GOOGLE: RACIAL DOT MAP... so we have!

    • @ThatGworl2023
      @ThatGworl2023 7 років тому +9

      raceandcrime and what happens, white folks want to come in with gentrification. No dice.

    • @stephenbryant6622
      @stephenbryant6622 7 років тому +7

      that's the harsh reality we have to accept I see no other way out

    • @euphoricqualitytunes9023
      @euphoricqualitytunes9023 6 років тому +1

      Cdubbed it’ll be ample opportunities to draw war to end a substantial amount of colored individuals..... They have weapons of mass and evil destruction.... Our own wishes of separation would possibly end us ...... However seeing them parish should be a wish that’ll come into fruition 🔮

    • @ciaphagray1063
      @ciaphagray1063 6 років тому +2

      The Pale Sicilian fuck u

  • @blackstarblues9055
    @blackstarblues9055 9 років тому +6

    Tony Brown has been proved right about education and employment outcomes.

  • @lovisredd7990
    @lovisredd7990 8 років тому +41

    Its 2016 and things are still the same sad

    • @tabbypappy
      @tabbypappy 8 років тому +3

      Yeah,but at least Cornell West has hope.

    • @curtisjones400
      @curtisjones400 8 років тому +1

      well actually if crack cocaine had not hit the black community in the 1980's we could have made progress

    • @tabbypappy
      @tabbypappy 8 років тому +3

      +curtis jones I disagree with your simplistic assessment.

    • @MrWalkman99
      @MrWalkman99 8 років тому +1

      +tabbypappy can you PLEASE explain to me as to WHY you feel as if CIA wasn't a contribution to why us as black people haven't furthered in our progression???

    • @tabbypappy
      @tabbypappy 8 років тому +3

      +WA lKER I didn't say that.You did.

  • @watchthis12day
    @watchthis12day 8 років тому +18

    same ole shot, different era!

  • @jasminehouston-burns1691
    @jasminehouston-burns1691 8 років тому +16

    40:10 "white america did what was expedient politically"
    Whites have been thinking highly of themselves the whole time. Acceptance of the well meaning white person Is the acceptance of white supremacy.
    The main political difference that I think can be had about race is identity with the state and an African identity, which the state finds threatening.

  • @eyahmeenusah1740
    @eyahmeenusah1740 6 років тому +5

    The Queen Soulja....... POWERFUL.

  • @knightyyknight1494
    @knightyyknight1494 8 років тому +14

    To me this was only used as entertainment, white people use things as a now thing look at today hip hop has been a major influence on all races in America but mainly when white people snatch something they claim it as their own. It stresses me how confident and arrogant euro-Caucasian people are in thinking they own and created all when they stand on someone else land, steal ideas, and preach one sided morals. We as a race our very proud and outspoken to call out the things they do, they've always hated it. I love sistah soulja for her honesty for jabbing them with the truth of the country and not bringing the past into the conversation. White people speak on what happen 50 years when 9/10 they never lived in that period of time. Speak in the now not then.

  • @enchantresse23
    @enchantresse23 5 років тому +4

    We need more intelligent, outspoken women like this back in the forefront. I came here for Sister Souljah after reading “No Disrespect” 📚👑✨ I loved this.

  • @TEEMILL81
    @TEEMILL81 6 років тому +1

    This was a great. I listened on the ride to work. We need more panels like this in 2018.

  • @007BlackCanary
    @007BlackCanary 9 років тому +69

    Cornell West really annoyed me here. I'm just going to say it!

    • @tabbypappy
      @tabbypappy 8 років тому +16

      Co-sign.Especially talking all that ''we are a people of hope'' sucker shit.

    • @007BlackCanary
      @007BlackCanary 8 років тому +6

      +tabbypappy RIGHT!! I honestly was completely over his comments

    • @sirlord_7235
      @sirlord_7235 7 років тому

      u took offence cos you're black and thought he was against u huh? ignorant smh

    • @curtisblow6071
      @curtisblow6071 6 років тому +5

      He’s a sell out

    • @flashcloud666
      @flashcloud666 6 років тому +1

      Funny how Alan Keyes get a pass from you though. foh

  • @nnjvhvhhgc5213
    @nnjvhvhhgc5213 9 років тому +2

    Thanks for uploading this video. I really enjoyed watching it. We need more programs and debates like this to take place on national television. Instead of the media and white American trying to read the minds of African-Americans in this country, give us a chance to express ourselves. Don't go talking bout rap music is a platform for that. Rappers aren't concerned with anything besides wealth; theirs in particular.

  • @davidstylespro
    @davidstylespro 10 років тому +3

    "So many years, so many lives. Nothing has changed" - Jonathan Kozol

  • @maninotbougie4479
    @maninotbougie4479 6 років тому +6

    Where my fourty acres? Where my mule? I aint entitled i just want whats mine, lol!

  • @LC-vt6cy
    @LC-vt6cy 8 років тому +17

    👑Sista souljah 🏆🏆 MVP #KNOWLEDGE 🔑🔑 #FACTS #STAYWOKE

  • @speedtopia2013
    @speedtopia2013 2 роки тому +1

    ... excellent discussion ... it's a shame these types of conversations and sharing of differences of perception and viewpoints have ceased to exist ...

  • @appointedvillainy
    @appointedvillainy 6 років тому +4

    “Try to talk and they ain't listenin' but they'll point it out when you get ignorant” -Drezzy _Spar ♪_

  • @angelsalas420
    @angelsalas420 9 років тому +1

    Glad I found this. power to the people !

  • @laynonna
    @laynonna 8 років тому +6

    Nothing has changed and nothing will change soon.

  • @redwine1985
    @redwine1985 4 роки тому +1

    The way I love sister souljah 🙌🏾👊🏽🙌🏾👊🏽

  • @pharaohdojah
    @pharaohdojah 8 років тому +4

    they are all right I agree with all of the points the brothers and sisters are saying

  • @blackpeoplestuffcreatingab3783
    @blackpeoplestuffcreatingab3783 8 років тому +2

    past, present,future..Thank you for the discussion.

  • @nefrusebek
    @nefrusebek 10 років тому +7

    Tony Brown told the truth

  • @novabigstar1509
    @novabigstar1509 7 років тому +2

    Phil Donahue was/is a great talk show host and was squashed by this terrible media monopoly we have today that skews searching for the truth. We need more honest good newsmen active like him today.