A Discussion About the Subject-Object Relationship and Consciousness's Knowledge of Itself

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  • @ginettejalbert122
    @ginettejalbert122 4 роки тому +27

    The cloudy sky analogy is the best ever!

    • @Legion6363
      @Legion6363 4 роки тому +3

      1000% agreed! for recall, blue sky analogy is at 5:00---trekchod, Tibetan for cutting through would then be the cutting through the clouds into the eternal blue sky

  • @viniquoz
    @viniquoz 3 місяці тому

    'If we really explore the experience of peace, happiness and love, they are in fact windows onto our true nature. They're not really feelings; they are the nature of the blue sky, they are the nature of ourself.'
    One of his most important videos that I've seen!

  • @markhenry2726
    @markhenry2726 4 роки тому +7

    Rupert’s ability to articulate these ideas so fluently is truly wonderful. I feel it is especially easy for westerners to digest these teachings when communicated in this way. This man is certainly here at an opportune time in history. Many people in the west will resonate with his style of communicating.

  • @sugarfree1894
    @sugarfree1894 2 роки тому

    Rupert is an articulate and clear speaker who often does not answer the question.

  • @schoolofmasteryformindfull1417
    @schoolofmasteryformindfull1417 4 роки тому +4

    Whenever I listen to Rupert has has that capacity to connect so deeply at root level. There are no mental cobwebs left, only stunning clarity. Thank you so much.

  • @MotoJitsu
    @MotoJitsu 4 роки тому +12

    All his videos is why I quoted him 3 times in my book. Such clarity. Just as great Mooji, Alan Watts, Eckhart Tolle, Thich Nhat Hanh, Sadhguru. All different ways of teaching, but all awesome.

    • @zain4019
      @zain4019 4 роки тому +1

      Mooji is a great teacher, but his character - the cult-like nature of his ashram and the oft-reported preying upon young women by Mooji himself is disturbing. His UA-cam channel has comments disabled, and for good reason. There are stories upon stories of this online. I don’t know of any other guru that has such a collection of anecdotes from such a wide array of people warning about his ashram. Something seems definitely to be going on.
      It’s a shame, because as a teacher, he is so well articulated and warm. I hope this kindness finds its way into his daily life.

    • @skvirk2669
      @skvirk2669 4 роки тому

      @@zain4019 enlightened one doesn’t have a character. You are opposing your conditioning upon him. It is all play of existence. Keep quiet. Just flow....

    • @rihhard1072
      @rihhard1072 4 роки тому

      @@skvirk2669 A true sage would never charge for his teachings, even Moojis own guru Papaji (and his guru Ramana too) was strongly against charging money and Mooji is basically a rockstar
      Money inevitably corrupts the satsang
      Your definition of enlightenment must be very loose indeed

    • @sadeghghane5386
      @sadeghghane5386 4 роки тому

      @@zain4019 huh
      Same happened with OSHO in Oregon

    • @karinround8531
      @karinround8531 3 роки тому

      @@zain4019 I’ve seen this also. It didn’t sit right with me how his followers kiss his feet all the time and hang onto him.

  • @deep_diver6694
    @deep_diver6694 4 роки тому +5

    Wow wow wow....Rupert you are a monster!!! Not in the classical sense, as in what a huge gift this man is to this world. What unbelievable insight, especially when he took us to the example of the blue patchy sky...that blew me away. Thank you so much sir....this world needs more like you!!

  • @LightLiving444
    @LightLiving444 4 роки тому +1

    When Rupert speaks, I "feel" oh that is me speaking, from my higher Self. Rupert does on exude otherness in his videos for me, just....oh there I am unencumbered by worldly stuff. After every single video, I am amazed at the eloquent and simple way he explains our true nature. He inspires Love, Peace and Happiness in me and for that I can only bow down to our Essence!

  • @mindfulkayaker7737
    @mindfulkayaker7737 4 роки тому +5

    Great insight love peace and happiness Are not feelings or something that we experience but rather something that we are and that which emerge spontaneously in the absence of desires

  • @countrypicker2819
    @countrypicker2819 4 роки тому +3

    Best explaination I've ever been given of Love. Thank you!!!

  • @innerlight617
    @innerlight617 4 роки тому +4

    3.03."it would be more accurate to say in what we essentially are there is no agitation,there is no sense of lack,there is no sense of othereness or separation.."
    I really prefer this kind of definition of our deep essence-nature than the positive one.

    • @sanekabc
      @sanekabc 4 роки тому +1

      Correct.

    • @QED_
      @QED_ 4 роки тому

      @inner light @Testa: You may prefer it (which is fine, of course) . . . but is it actually the whole truth (?) Spira is very, very good . . . but he's still advocating for a particular tradition. That tradition is also very, very good . . . but it's promoting a particular and limited understanding of essence-nature. This seems to me easy to demonstrate: consider Music. Surely your experience of the many POSITIVE varieties of musical experience are not satisfactorily understood by this "no agitation, no sense of lack" perspective. There ARE positive aspects of Music that arise from essence-nature . . . but it requires an entirely different exploration than Spira's to realize them. If you're not interested . . . and just want "no agitation, no sense of lack" in your life -- that's altogether reasonable and you absolutely can have that. But if you want the fuller, richer possibilities of essence-nature . . . then you need to cultivate them differently.

    • @sanekabc
      @sanekabc 4 роки тому

      @@QED_ I was merely supporting the non-positive explanation. Spira usually gives the positive explanation.

    • @innerlight617
      @innerlight617 4 роки тому +1

      @@sanekabc Exactly.Personaly i don't feel at ease with definition "our true nature is happiness"Many people think of excitement as happiness. But when you are excited you are not peaceful. True happiness is based on peace.
      That's how i perceive it..

  • @ganshyamkhemani
    @ganshyamkhemani 4 роки тому +2

    Superb analogy.. clouds n blue sky. Thank you Rupert Sir. Love you 😘
    Ghanshyam

  • @MayaLove1976
    @MayaLove1976 4 роки тому +1

    Love you Rupert! Thank you for all your sharings 🙏🏼♥️🙏🏼♥️🙏🏼♥️🙏🏼

  • @JustinTweed
    @JustinTweed 4 роки тому +1

    Damn just when you think a question really gets rupert he comes on the other side clean as a whistle like always damn what a guy

  • @Isen502
    @Isen502 4 роки тому +1

    Peace is an ever present default being that remains when thoughts,beliefs and habits are thoroughly dissolved and let go of. Still have a long way to go to break the persistent veil.

  • @jacquesstephens8330
    @jacquesstephens8330 4 роки тому +1

    Dear Rupert,
    The mission is complete
    This is the second fact that awareness can know. It is an almighty mission by the one for the best conceivable reality for eternity in all conceivable directions for all beings (whether dead, alive, non-existent or infinite if so) at exactly halfway between age 75 and 76 for the one, along with the one living his best possible life until that point..KNOW it, you/your awareness can👍🙏

  • @mulyadihasan1339
    @mulyadihasan1339 4 роки тому

    Very good question.
    Happiness is feeling after reaching the "Essence of God". This feeling is not permanent.

  • @fzuzka
    @fzuzka 4 роки тому +2

    Very clear explanation. As always. 😊👍

  • @nsbd90now
    @nsbd90now 3 роки тому

    "Peace, love and happiness APPEAR to be feelings."

  • @judyatkinson9677
    @judyatkinson9677 4 роки тому

    Thank you Rupert. That was very clear.

    • @QED_
      @QED_ 4 роки тому

      @Judy Atkinson: Yes, it's very clear. Spira is great in that respect. But clarity can also be misleading . . . if it emphasizes only a part of a greater whole.

  • @noreenjenny7039
    @noreenjenny7039 4 роки тому

    Window ❤ Peace, Love Exploration! 🌹❤

  • @quantumawakening644
    @quantumawakening644 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent... 👌 Best ever explanation of understanding - Sat chit anand 😊

  • @MrPrayuda
    @MrPrayuda 4 роки тому

    Thanks, Rupert 🙏

  • @FredBarchetta
    @FredBarchetta 4 роки тому +3

    "One should never say never."

  • @juliangiulio3147
    @juliangiulio3147 4 роки тому +2

    They might not be feelings per se, but they 'hold'/embody emotional content, rich and profound feeling-content.. (joy is a Feeling! :) ). Beingness-feelings rather than emotions around our own separate self'

    • @QED_
      @QED_ 4 роки тому +1

      @Giulian Bates: Yes. Spira's Advaita Vedanta perspective excludes the possibility of our True Nature having essential qualities other than awareness. Sufism, for example, is a tradition that disagrees with him . . .

    • @juliangiulio3147
      @juliangiulio3147 4 роки тому +1

      @@QED_ But he says he's a 'closer sufi'. :)
      I think whatever one has realised, in my experience, teachers are all limited and still have stock points-of-view, do't use language with complete awareness. Everything in this world, including spiritual teachers, have their pros and their limitations :)

    • @juliangiulio3147
      @juliangiulio3147 4 роки тому +1

      @@QED_ My point was that These Big/Expansive Being-states-Feelings are still Feelings ~Happiness, Joy and Sublime-Profound States also have feelings, often Subtle and incredible ones with them...

  • @charlesgodwin2191
    @charlesgodwin2191 3 роки тому

    Awareness is the activity of Being. Experience is the content of Awareness, like chinese nested boxes.

  • @gireeshneroth7127
    @gireeshneroth7127 4 роки тому +1

    Everything about the illusions such as life and living are with the mind. You are Consciousness first before you assume a mind posture. Stick with the mind and you will never be in peace. Problem is the mind won't let you alone until you have lived it out. You are living your mind as a separate self and a universe attached to it. The unceasingly streaming Karmma has the final say. Be afraid of it or the whirlpool will become thicker and stronger as the stream keeps going.

  • @vishalkulkarni5502
    @vishalkulkarni5502 4 роки тому

    love it ..perfect analogy! Great man

  • @infinitenothingness
    @infinitenothingness 3 роки тому

    [8:19] Untouchable. Identified with the true self, not the illusion.

  • @davidsweeney111
    @davidsweeney111 4 роки тому

    experience is like a TV set turned on

  • @morpety
    @morpety 4 роки тому

    Outstanding!

  • @Rakbui
    @Rakbui 7 місяців тому

    ..our essential natural is happening ☀️ soo like a verb

  • @maheshn9970
    @maheshn9970 4 роки тому

    Very good answer 🙏👍

  • @paztururututu4864
    @paztururututu4864 4 роки тому

    Thank you for sharing with us your humanity, Rupert. :) Namaste.

  • @shantanurawat7185
    @shantanurawat7185 4 роки тому

    सदा की भांति विस्तार से समझाने के लिए धन्यवाद ओ ज्ञानी !! .. हाई कैलरी भोजन क्यूं ले रहे हो आजकल ??

  • @jesperhansen7511
    @jesperhansen7511 4 роки тому

    The essential nature (God) is not without characteristics. It is filled with absolut love and wisdom. It has absolutely free will and can reveal or hide It Self as it pleases.
    Our lower nature can be clouded, not our source. Our lower nature is not just awareness. It also has free will. We are primarely conscious agents with free will connected to a gross body.

  • @danmyerscough2359
    @danmyerscough2359 3 роки тому

    Why are the three windows (love, peace and happiness) limited to positive emotions? Why aren’t negative emotion included as other windows?

    • @sugarfree1894
      @sugarfree1894 2 роки тому

      That's a great question! I think the answer is that our true nature, and I mean true, is peace - a state that has no requirement that anything be different from how and what it is. The negative stuff always wants something to be different. The Buddhists call our true nature Buddha nature, and it's nice to know that when you scrub away the gunk of negativity through the practice of silent meditation, it's there to be enjoyed.

  • @wilma8326
    @wilma8326 4 роки тому +2

    In the last 2 minutes of the video something was going on behind the curtain, left of Rupert, on the right side of the screen 👻

    • @carlosirles4710
      @carlosirles4710 4 роки тому +1

      yes hahaha the phantom of the ego is around them

  • @happyone4833
    @happyone4833 3 роки тому

    ✨WOW🌈✨

  • @AndrasNagy2001
    @AndrasNagy2001 Рік тому

    Did not really address the object subject relationship.A little misleading title, as he spoke mainly about the nature of Self.(Subject). feelings are of course as all else are subjects.

  • @nobodyreally
    @nobodyreally 4 роки тому

    🌻

  • @1965simonfellows
    @1965simonfellows 10 місяців тому

    a seemingly very genuine sounding man, but what do i know ? If you want less woowoo do try Lisa Feldman-Barrett and her labs work. How Emotions are Made book, interviews etc And the super brill Between Us how cultures create emotions by Batja Mesquita. Good luck n "elf.

  • @QED_
    @QED_ 4 роки тому +1

    3:23 This is a limitation of Spira's Advaita Vedanta perspective. Sufism, for example, doesn't agree with him at all. Spira should know better from his familiarity with the Gurdjieff Work. Spira is doing a brilliant job of teaching realization of the "Higher Intellectual Center". But he's not only ignoring realization of the positive emotions of the "Higher Emotional Center" . . . he's altogether denying their existence as aspects of our True Nature.

    • @judithbarber1844
      @judithbarber1844 4 роки тому +1

      I understand that Rupert studied in the Gurdjeiff work for 20 years. I heard him speak about this brilliantly at one of his retreats. I was very interested as I studied with a Gurdjeiff group for a time myself. If I can find the recording of this talk I will post a link here.
      Also, having worked with a Sufi teacher for over 30 years, I think if you read the teachings of the great Sufi teacher, Ibn Arabi, you will find perfect congruence with Ruperts teachings. Check out Ibn Arabi’s small book entitled “Know Yourself”. 💗

    • @QED_
      @QED_ 4 роки тому +1

      @@judithbarber1844 Strangely . . . Ibn Arabi (and Rumi, too) doesn't recognize the positive emotions of the Higher Emotional Center, either. It just goes to show that self-realization has many forms and varieties . . .

  • @gretanavarauskaite2904
    @gretanavarauskaite2904 4 роки тому

    ❤️

  • @iamthatiam44444
    @iamthatiam44444 4 роки тому +1

    No need for "more" i call it, but you don't realy know this while your in it because there's no ego to judge the situation until your out of it again🙈😜🤪

  • @claudedupont8233
    @claudedupont8233 3 роки тому

    Experience have lost it s capacity to veil the reality of the back ground

  • @carlavela7106
    @carlavela7106 4 роки тому

    💙🙏

  • @dorandacolbert5973
    @dorandacolbert5973 4 роки тому +2

    The questioner sounds like Eckhart Tolle. Lol.

  • @shantanurawat7185
    @shantanurawat7185 4 роки тому

    डेन्जरस काहे पर ??? डेन्जरस ???

  • @carlosirles4710
    @carlosirles4710 4 роки тому

    more clear ... water

  • @truenorthaffirmations7049
    @truenorthaffirmations7049 4 роки тому +2

    Mindset from another youtuber

  • @StarLink85
    @StarLink85 4 роки тому

    8:40

  • @jeralynscottmccarthy9841
    @jeralynscottmccarthy9841 4 роки тому

    )

  • @ИннаПарфенчук-н4н
    @ИннаПарфенчук-н4н 4 роки тому

    💖