Why Orthodox Catholicism and NOT Orthodox Christian?
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Many have asked me why I decided to become Catholic.. why not Orthodox Christian instead. It seems like a less troublesome choice. Here, I answer that question!
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I agree with you, once i tried orthodox christian, i felt as if i became someone else and losing my innerself as an a Javanese indonesian person, and so i became a catholic maintaining my culture
Orang yang mengasihi bapaknya atau ibunya lebih daripada-Ku tidak patut menjadi pengikut-Ku.
As an African American Catholic I feel the same. One of the reasons I love the Catholic faith is that we have room for all cultures in worship and thought while keeping the ancient and universal theology. I have grown up in African American Catholicism with our rituals and language appropriate to my people's culture. God bless the One, Holy and Catholic Church!
Eastern Orthodoxy makes you hate the Western tradition and forces you to become Greek or Russian.
I am a traditional Latin Rite Catholic (not novus ordo), but during a few years when a Tridentine Mass was unavailable near me, I switched to the Eastern Rite for a long time. I love the fact that I feel equally at home in the Byzantine Catholic (Eastern Rite) and also the Traditional Latin Rite.
Forgot to mention that I am a Jewish convert who became Catholic in 1978 after growing up an Orthodox Jew.
I decided to become Eastern Catholic. I have my patriarch and I the pope of Rome + the magisterium while also holding onto Orthodox theology and spirituality. Orthodoxy is beautiful and has a lot of truth and certainly many saints, Catholicism stands on top because it provides a real sense of unity. Though sometimes it is hard to be a Catholic with eastern theology... because it truly is different from the western theology. I still think it is necessary that we are in union to inform each other and to grow together. I could go on... but I'll stop now. God bless and Glory to Jesus Christ!
Uniats disprove infallability of Roman Catholic dogma
I think it's ok to be in any of the orthodox churches if you are from that particular region. I find it a bit snubbish to go to any of orthodox churches when you can't even speak the language or have a different cultures.
@@albertaowusu3536 Orthodoxy has the fullness in any language, in Arabic, in Russian, in Swahili, in Naxuatl, in Mandarin, in Latin, in Frisian etc...
What matters is the Grace and the Sacraments. If your closest parish doesn't speak your language, doesn't matter, we ought to keep the Liturgy and the Holy Mysteries in any way possible.
I honestly don't understand all this roman unity talk... like come on guys, are you really going to pretend that there is any kind of unity in roman catholicism? As if there aren't massive problem in the church which none of the latest popes have been able or willing to solve. As if some pseudo-protestant German Bishop who wants gay marriage and women priests is "in communion" with the FSSP because they both pay lip service to the bishop of Rome. it is just ridiculous. And don't even get me started on "eastern catholicism". If anything the uniates are support the Orthodox case without realizing it.
I chose orthodoxy bc eastern catholicism is a heresy.
Vladimir Soloviev wrote a book on this topic, the book is entitled “Russia & The Universal Church”. He was an orthodox Christian who became catholic.
His defended the papacy before becoming Catholic
He predicted the Russian Orthodox schism from Constantinople.
A genuis man
@@deusimperator is the book worth reading?
@@Ryan_Zell He also speculated on who the A/C would be. It is @ the prophetic level. You'll find his writings very enlightening.
You probably just saved my faith. Thank you so much!!
Glory to the Most High!
This Easter I will celebrate the 45th anniversary of my conversion to the Catholic Church. Thank you for this explanation! It summarizes much of what I have had to explain, especially to one of my brothers (may he rest in peace) who had converted to the Orthodox Church in America. He would challenge me frequently, and of course the papacy was an essential part of that discussion, but as you mentioned the cultural aspect was also a consideration for me. Our family is pretty much 100 percent Anglo Saxon Protestants, heck, we actually really did come over on the May Flower! So to me it was pretty odd to watch my brother and his family little by little transform into cultural Russians. It also seemed odd to me to see a Greek Orthodox Church just down the street from a Russian Orthodox Church, and to realize that they had two different Bishops who basically never spoke to each other. Please understand, I'm not judging anyone's culture--I love living in such a rich would that has so many ways to express our differences as we worship! That is one reason why I became Catholic. These days I am attending an Anglican Ordinariate parish where the Mass is solemn and beautiful and the prayers were written in the 1600s. But some Sundays I go to Mass the nearest parish where I am often the only white person in the congregation, the music is modern, upbeat, jazzy, and very, very well performed and the homilies are down to earth. I love the contrasts, I love the "universality," I love explains Ng to people why I am Catholic.
Good day and congratulations. I was also received into the Catholic Church in April 1978 [45 years ago]. I was not received at the Easter Vigil as I was away at the time, so I was received a few weeks later on April 20. I try to remember this date each year, and regard it a a 'spiritual birthday'.
I was raised in a Sephardic home. My grandparents were able to immigrate to the USA because of the man who would later become Pope John XXIII, now Pope St. John who gave my family members forged Baptismal Certificates to be able to leave Greece and immigrate. My grandfather a Rabbi asked then Archbishop Angelo Roncalli if they would have to be baptized to get the paperwork. His reply was, Pope Pius had instructed us to save as many Jewish lives as we can, and not to make conversion a requirement, if we do this we will witness God's love for mankind. Growing up I knew we were from Greece and had been from Spain before the 1500s, but not how we immigrated. For my undergrad studies I went to a Protestant College, which is where the idea that the Messiah had already come. My school chums did not agree on which Protestant Church was the best choice, but they all agreed that the Roman Catholic Church was not Christian and gave all sorts of arguments and Anti-Catholic books for their opinions. I don't think they counted on my Jewish upbringing which would lead me to read not just what they gave me, but also what the Catholic Church really taught from Catholic sources. Protestantism seemed to me to teach, the Messiah had come 2000 years ago and if we accepted Him and remembered what he had done, we would go to heaven. At their Lord's Supper, they remembered a past event. Catholicism on the other hand taught that He had become incarnate, died and rose from the Dead and rather than remembering a past Messiah, He is the living Messiah who works and acts though His Church.
An example of this is the Eucharist. Since the Catholic Church teaches that the Sacraments are not the work or action of the priest we see, but of the Eternal High Priest Jesus. So when I read of the Last Supper and the institution of the Eucharist, I knew what I had learned as a Jew at the Seder each year. That once one has observed what was required of us at the Seder, we could no longer say, I am remembering what G-D did for my forefathers, but that we must now say, I am remembering what G-D has done for me. The Exodus was renewed by our faithful observance of what was commanded in the Seder. So too when at the Mass, or Eastern Catholic Divine Liturgy, G-D makes present for us Calvary and the Last Supper, coming to us through time with the gift of being able to participate in the Salvation He is active in giving us through His Grace.
Bad Popes did not dissuade me. Even today when other Catholics and Protestants bad mouth Pope Francis (I love the old Latin Mass and Eastern Liturgies, not a fan of the New Rites, but I will and do go when I can't get to the Older Rites because any Rite of the Mass is the same action of God and the same re-presenting in an unbloody manner of the Cross) I recall Peter cutting off the ear of the servant of the High Priest, and denying our Lord, of accepting the abrogation of Kashrut, but not eating foods that did not follow the Old Law. He had to be reprimanded and told to act as he taught. Even if a Pope is not the best example, like Peter who was not removed from office for his failures, it is the Office he holds, not the man I accept. I do respect what Pope Frances said in his first interview, when asked who Jorge Bergoglio now Pope Francis was, his reply, "I am a sinner in need of G-D's Grace."
Thank you for taking the time to give your testimony! Love the comparison of the Messiah that is present now through the Eucharist , a living Messiah, and not just a symbolic celebration of a past event.
I love our Eastern Orthodox brothers and sisters and pray for reunification. We were one before 1054 and there is no other group of Christs followers that Catholics are more connected too.. I was an atheist who converted but felt lost in protestantism and kept searching for the Church that Christ instituted in Matthew 16, if He said "the gates of hell would not prevail upon His Church" surely that Church would still be here and have a documented, historical link with evidence chain linking it from the 1st century to today. I looked into Eastern Orthodoxy but the deciding factor for me was actually the role of the Pope as the successor of Peter who was appointed to be the steward for His Church. The fact that there were bad popes didn't deter me because none of that corrupted "doctrine". Every Church is led/taught by a "fallen humans" and you don't leave Christ because of Judas, you don't leave HIS Church because of Judas.
The Catholic Church recognizes all 7 sacraments of the Eastern Church.
Let’s pray for the unity of the Church!
@Saint Charbel Miracleworker thank you for recommending this channel on Reason & Theology🙏
@@TrixRN You're welcome brother.
Hello I love your Answer on the Jewish Catholic God bless your brother Frank at Catholic answers Chat🛐📖🛡️🗝️🗝️🙏🛡️💯 Catholic
Would love to see you collaborate with Roy Schoeman. He was raised Jewish and became atheist. Highly recommend checking out his conversion story to Catholicism. He also has a UA-cam channel 🕊
Dr Feingold is another who accepted Catholicism. Now a theology professor at Ave Maria University.
That would be amazing! I’ve spoken to Mr. Schoeman before but to have a video together… perhaps that would be fun! I’ll reach out to him.
@@TheJewishCatholic 🙌👏🙏
This was probably the best and most well-structured argument I have heard for the sake of Catholicism. Thank you for guiding me on my journey of faith.
You make a great point about the Orthodox church as being Orthodox churches (plural) - I was initially interested in the Orthodox church after learning about the filioque (something I always took for granted in the Catholic Nicene Creed) but never realized that this issue contributed to the Great Schism. I believe in the Filioque but ultimately feel the Great Schism was caused by power struggle within the Eastern (Byzantine) Empire, with theological issues like Filioque as an excuse to break away. The Orthodox Church unfortunately has become very splintered since the Great Schism, especially by regions and ethnic backgrounds, which makes it a less accessible form of Christianity for new believers - something certainly not in line with Christ's own desire for his Church. The Catholic Church is the perfect answer - singular in doctrine, worldwide, accessible, authoritative (e.g. founded by Jesus through Peter), and enduring through history. It is our great inheritance!
These videos are great, thank you for your work! I learn so much from you and love your embrace of both roots, and showing us how they are so perfectly mixed together!
I love your videos, a fellow Converso here.
love the term, embracing the converso title
R hanks, Daniel. I missed the live streaming, but better late than never. Great topic. Look forward to the next live streaming.
God bless. Shalom.
No worries Craig, this wasn’t live. Perhaps my next video will be. I’ll make sure to give a heads up first. :)
Shalom!
@@TheJewishCatholic oh, OK. Have a blessed week, bro.
This was beautifully explained! Thank you for this video, i understand now🙏🏻
I love your videos 🙌🏽God bless. Could you do a video about how to study the Word using Greek and Hebrew and which books help you with your study. Also, is there a difference in Catechisms?
Sure thing. I’ll can speak on the benefits of the original languages for the sake of study, but I’ll stress that it’s not a requirement, but in my opinion, I find it very helpful. And I can’t make a video on the types of Catechisms available as I only have the “Catechism of the Catholic Church”. Some that seem to be truly beloved by many are the Baltimore Catechism, the St. Pope Prius x’s Catechism and the Catechism of the Council of Trent.
Thought I’m not an expert so I can’t compare.
You expain this so well! Thanks for your video😘
I just found your channel and I really appreciate the quality of your content. Keep up the hard work!
Depends on how one would consider the word 'Orthodox'.
We Maronites consider ourselves Orthodox as "Catholics". Our Rite is observed in Aramaic [more often called Syriac....'Syrian Aramaic'].
It is Orthodox because the Rite is observed in the original language of the Jews. Hebrew[Temple Hebrew] was not used in the street, only in religious observance in the Synagogue or the Great Temple; Kethuv'im were all Hebrew; Hebrew was biblical. When our Rabbi taught "...Abana yit'kadesh shmok...", he taught it in the language of the street and marketplace, Aramaic. So we are Orthodox in 'rite' [Ritual]. Our Patriarch loves and respects the Pope; Sixtus was a Pope; but we are senior to him and the rest of the Romans, the oldest most continuous, faithful, and most orthodox [Jewish] of all the Rites.
Orhodoxy as is commonly understood is politically bent.
Baruch Adonai Yom Yom ya amos lanu haEl Yeshuateinu.
Omein.
......Hebrew is actually 67%~ly Aramaic, and 33% Assyrian and Persian.
There are 22 or 23 Catholic Churches in Communion with the Pope, the Latin(or western or roman) Catholic Church and the Eastern Catholic Churches
24 Rites, 23 Eastern, and 1 Western Rite. There were several Western Rites at one time but these were suppressed by Pius V and only the Ambrosian and Mesoarabic rites now exist within the Latin Rite.
Literally there are 3 Catholic Patriarchs of Antioch. I don't get that
@@deusimperator
So well explained. Thank you for providing clear, historic , biblical viewpoint.
I love how you compare the similarities between the Temple service and the Catholic Church. It truly is amazing and subconsciously, maybe that’s why I was drawn to it after following Judaism for the last 12 years.
A future discussion I’d love to see is: where did all the Torah observant, Christian Jews go from Paul’s day? They were the original followers of Yeshua and I find it strange that they didn’t move forward in large numbers just like the gentiles did.
I know we have messianics now, but didn’t that just surface in the 1960s? Not that long ago...
The first Christians always went to the "jew first" they always went to the local synagogue first but they were viewed as a "messianic cult' and rarely welcomed. The community was small outside of Judea and the religious authorities held a lot of power, they were also persecuted for their faith in One God whilst living in nations who overwhelmingly worshipped mythical gods, planets, emperors, kings, nature etc. Over time as the christian faith spread throughout the Roman Empire, this tradition faltered and faded which is a big shame.
Pope Benedict said that it was an eschatological sign that in the past few decades so many are returning home. Catholicism is the legitimate continuation of Temple Judaism.
@@SaintCharbelMiracleworker I think this is a great topic to cover. I’ll need to really prep for it as there is so much to this!. Thanks for the suggestion
@@TheJewishCatholic You're welcome brother. Looking forward to seeing the episode.
Can’t wait to see it! The whole situation just baffles me.
Some scholars think that a version of "Jewish Christianity" became Islam, or at least influenced it. It makes sense. Muslims revere Jesus as a prophet but not as divine. They practice circumcision and abstain from pork. They continue the Jewish ban on pictures and statues (although the First Temple did contain statues of the Cherubim - the ban was a later development as the Second Temple had lost the Ark and the Cherubim along with other holy objects.)
Divine Simplicity makes God Divinely simple. Catholicism is simply Catholicism all the additional naming is fractioning. If people want to categorize and separate themselves it is not unifying. I liked the way you explained it in your labels video. People will put you in a box.
Just because all Catholic churches submit to the authority of the pope doesn't mean they're actually united in thought or practice. Eastern Rites, Anglican Catholic, Latin Rite - Novus Ordo, Latin Rite - Traditional Latin Mass. I grew up Catholic in Poland. Modern American Catholic churches are closer to American Protestant Mainline churches than the Catholic church of my youth. The Orthodox church is much more like what I remember if only in terms of reverent joyful worship. I'm trying to find a way to still make Catholicism work, but it will require either the Eastern Rite or TLM church for that to happen. I don't see much that is salvageable in Novus Ordo Masses. :(
The Eastern Orthodox churches are literally split between the Russians and the Greeks. Catholics are united under the Shepard, the Apostolic See.
True @@franknwogu4911
I am German wouldnt i be in the area of the patriarch of rome?
Not really
I'm seriously looking into Orthodoxy and Catholicism. My problem with the Papacy is I don't buy the historical arguments. Even with Peter he was never the Bishop of Rome. When we look at the schism between East and West it looks like the Bishop of Rome started it by mandating the Filioque into the creed without the consensus of the rest of the church. That's not how the early church operated. It held ecumenical councils to determine what the orthodox teaching of the church is and they were guided by the spirit. Sure, the Bishop of Rome maybe at one point was considered first among 'equals' but that does not correlate to autocracy and the final say on spiritual matters. Also, as far as governoring bodies it makes since to have independent churches operating for jurisdiction simplicity with the churches in communion with eachother. Whether a church is led by one patriarch or another is a mute point because they are apart of the one body of Christ and have the same teachings. From my understanding Eastern Catholics have some difference in theologies from Rome so that would be a bigger issue when it comes to unity. Not to mention the innovations of Vatican II and the Pope saying that Muslims and Jews worship the same God.
If you want Biblical and historical facts regarding the papacy I recommend a few things: 1) “Upon this Rock” a book by Stephen Ray. 2) “Jesus and the Jewish Roots of the Papacy” an essay by Dr. Brant Pitre. 3) videos regarding the papacy by Suan Sona here on UA-cam. 4) videos by Michael Lofton regarding orthodox vs Catholic
@@TheJewishCatholic Thanks! I'll look into them.
Brother the Eastern Orthodox churches teach Peter was the first Bishop of Rome.
@@franknwogu4911 but they don't accept the Authority structure
@@TStephen-s3l What do you meant? Both Churches are episcopal.
The orthodox ecclesiology you described is literally the ecclesiology of the early church. It is Rome who forgot its place and left the other patriarchates. Plenty of Popes (bishops of Rome) were fully orthodox and did not claim the powers the Pope of today claims (which actually doesn't do any of the things it claims to bring, like unity for example) And yes Peter was the prince of the apostles, but all bishops are his successors, not just the bishop of Rome. before Peter was in Rome he was in Antioch, and through him sending the apostle mark also the see of Alexandria claim petrine lineage.
The early church never thought that Rome could leave lmao. So your understanding of early church ecclesiology is terrible. Look at Philip the Legate at Council of Ephesus, Pope Agathos letter at the 6th ecumenical letter, Formula of Hormisdas, etc and what many many saints of the early church era had to say about the Church of Rome (like St. Jerome on Pope Damasus). Much of it an Eastern Orthodox CANNOT accept into their modern innovated ecclesiology. Literally Rome was seen as the standard of catholicity, that if someone is to be catholic they have to agree with Rome and be in communion with Rome, and saints like Pope St. Leo, St. Augustine of Hippo, St. Ireaenus of Lyons, St. Cyprian of Carthage, St. Maximus the Confessor, St. John Chrysostom, etc. acknowledge this.
@@yourboieb4477 Roman claims rely on forged documents and centuries of political machinations. The modern RC church is not the true church. Simple as. And btw your own Pope says you shouldn't try to convert the orthodox so maybe, just maybe, you should wonder why that is :)
Now go to your little Novus Ordo mass whilst the "Eastern Catholics" continue to venerate saints who died outside of Communion with the bishop of Rome and in opposition to his inventions
@@yourboieb4477 Literally no early saint believed in universal jurisdiction. They believed no mere man was higher than the local bishop.
“There is no one superior to God, or even like to Him, among all the beings that exist, nor is there any one in the Church greater than the bishop...Let all things therefore be done by you with good order in Christ. Let the laity be subject to the deacons; the deacons to the presbyters; the presbyters to the bishop; the bishop to Christ, even as He is to the Father” [St. Ignatius, Epistle to the Smyrneans].
St. Cyprian himself said, "The authority of the bishops forms a unity, of which each holds his part in its totality.”
He continued elsewhere:
“Our Lord, whose precepts and admonitions we ought to observe, describing the honor of a bishop and the order of His Church, speaks in the Gospel, and says to Peter: “I say unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock will I build my Church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” Thence, through the changes of times and successions, the ordering of bishops and the plan of the Church flow onwards; so that the Church is founded upon the bishops, and every act of the Church is controlled by these same rulers. *Since this, then, is founded on the divine law, I marvel that some, with daring temerity, have chosen to write to me as if they wrote in the name of the Church; when the Church is established in the bishop and the clergy, and all who stand fast in the faith.”* [Epistle 26:1]
@@yourboieb4477 Even Pope St. Leo says:
“Commenting on these words, “Whatsoever you shall bind on earth, it shall have been bound in heaven, and whatsoever you shall loose, shall have been loosed in heaven,” he says: “This power is confided to him in a special manner, because the type (“forma”) of Peter is proposed to all the pastors of the Church. Therefore the privilege of Peter dwells wherever judgement is given with his equity.” [Sermon 3]
As an orthodox, this video was just nonsense. First of all the pope never had supremacy but was first among equals. The pope was never a unifying organ (even before the schism we had many theological differences) and the papacy is one of the reasons that created the schism. Rome was able to fabricate new forgeries knows as papal forgeries to support the new upgraded power of the pope. They also formulated the papal infallibility heresy (which is easly debunked by just reading about the condemnation of pope Honorius I bc of a heresy)
And also in orthodoxy we have true catholicity unlike the romans fake catholicity. We dont have a central bishop who would develop and add heresies in to the church like the romans. We dont have a unified authority but a unified teaching, sacrament, beliefs, etc which makes us one body of christ unlike the catholics (romans and eastern) who are only unified in authority, which makes them different churches (fake unity).
Read “Upon this Rock” by Steve Ray. Check out Brant Pitre’s paper titled “Jesus and the Jewish Roots of the Papacy”. See the Work of Suan Sona regarding the papacy. See Michael Lofton’s work regarding “orthodox Christianity”.
Session 1 Council of Chalcedon: "Paschasinus, the most reverend bishop and legate of the Apostolic See, stood up in the midst with his most reverend colleagues and said: We received directions at the hands of the most blessed and apostolic bishop of the Roman city, which is the head of all the churches, which directions say that Dioscorus is not to be allowed a seat in this assembly, but that if he should attempt to take his seat he is to be cast out. This instruction we must carry out; if now your holiness so commands let him be expelled or else we leave".
I believe in Daniel's argument Not yours 😂😂😂
hi im a protestant thinking of converting. i have many questions but one that i have at the moment is about the pope. i know this is a “what if” hypothetical question, but what if the pope were say that he is going to idk remove 1 commandment of the 10 or let’s say he were to say something heretical and makes believers believe that. do we have the right to oppose that if we disagree as individuals and also as a church? how does that play out??
Firstly, I’m glad you are on your way home. For that particular question, it truly comes to wether we trust Christ or not. Yeshua promised by the seal of the Holy Spirit that the gates of hell will not prevail against the Church. This means that regardless of how bad the leadership and laity get, Christ will make sure that the Church is never destroyed nor will it succumb to formal teaching of heretical teachings that transgress the deposit of the Faith. For more on the papacy I recommend the book “Upon this Rock” by Steven Ray and the work from Dr. Brant Pitre “Jesus and the Jewish Roots of the Papacy”.
The power of the Holy Spirit protects him from making errors in official statements on faith & morals. We believe that Mt 16 18-19 is supported by Jesus so ensuring that His Church remains true & faithful p, in spite of sinful men.
Great video
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Hey Daniel for a topic idea if you could tackle matrilineal decent in Judaism which does not seem to have a biblical basis but non the less if or how that ties in to Mary being the mother of the church I.e the mother of all believers I.e the new eve etc. either natural born or grafted in I know in your last meeting with Gabriel x Charles you touched on that and was wondering if there was much more to it thank you. Shalom!
This is based on RITVA's commentary on Kiddushin 68b and Yebarmot 17a in Chiddushei HaRITVA. Orthodox Jews claim this is an ancient tradition but this claim might be speculative. One only has to know that one's tribe in Israel is based on the tribe of one father. So if my father was a haLevi, then I am a haLevi even if my mother is not one. You would be a member of the tribe of Benjamin if your father was from the tribe of Benjamin. Likewise, if you were a member of the tribe of Judah, your father was a member of the tribe of Judah.
Who is a Jew? In a technical sense, a Jew belongs to the tribe of Judah which is where the name Jews come from, Yehudi, meaning the kingdom of Judah where the tribe of descendants of Judah lived. A paradox. You were a Jew if you belonged to the tribe of Judah
However, you can be adopted or fostered into a tribe.
Hey thanks for the info that was great. I felt the scriptures makes that pretty clear and simple straight forward. It’s just nice to hear so I don’t feel crazy lol. The enemy will twist simple truth often times in order to take us away from common sense reason to make the Father look worse in some one and cause many to fall away.
Yea, I can definitely make a video about this. @deusimperator pretty much gave the main notes on this but maybe we can make a “history of matrilineal Jewry” video.
A few things to ponder
Judah, the very person from whom the people of Judah originate and therefore the Jews, was married to a Canaanite woman, Shua (Sue) - Gen 38:2
One can argue that the prophet Ezra following the Hellenic practice of bilineal at the time for citizenship ejected the foreign wives and their children from Judah. There is no mention of Ezra ejecting the Gentile husbands and their children from the community, However, this silence does not prove that matrilineal descent as even at that time one offspring followed the father, and Jewish women who married Gentile men would not have belonged to the Jewish community, to begin with, which would explain the silence. There is evidence that prior to this episode in Jewish history the children of foreign wives were considered citizens whereas the children of foreign men were not. A woman left her family and joined the family of her husband.
There is general unawareness of this matrilineal rule during the Second Temple period as no one seems to actually mention it. The most that can be said about those who were born of non-Jewish mothers were mamzerim and such marriages between Jewish fathers and Gentile mothers was frowned upon.
@@deusimperator one can imagine that due to heavy Roman persecution there would have been very little interaction between Jews and gentiles in the first century. Which would lead to killing of Jewish men in open revolt and subsequent rape of Jewish women en masse. So I quest I was questioning the change to matrilineal descent due to fear of Jewish extinction with no men and a lack of faith in Gods promises to preserve a remnant. Or did this change have something to do with the genealogy of Jesus which I’ve heard as well. Or possibly the Jewish people saw the early churches devotion to Mary as the mother of all believers and how women where given greater honor and rights and privileges in the early church and feared that their women would flock to this new faith. It seems likely at this point that this idea of matrilineal decent most likely came at this time of great persecution upheaval uncertainty etc. which means that by this point the rabbis with the coming of and subsequent rejection of messiah would not have had the same kind of authority to change or dramatically alter or interpret this or any law with the same kind of authority they once had. And that today it has more to do with control than anything else. And even the subjugation of women in many cases. On the other hand the NT speaks of believers as not being unequally yoked and maybe this was part of this already Jewish notion that the women had to be Jewish either natural or convert. Your thoughts? But I guess it goes to the whole ethnic Jew versus religious Jew social Jew spiritual Jew idk 🤷🏽♂️
I love your channel God bless you brother 🙏📖🗝️🗝️🛐💯 Catholic
I am very happy to find your channel, but l don't know why l am not allowed to give you thumbs up or to save this video,
But l am really happy because God's love creates you, For His Glory and the Glory and His Bride:Our Catholic Church, as well for the Salvation of millions of Jewish who maybe will be converted to Catholicism through your testimony and the testimony of some other Jews who open their eyes to the Love of our Lord Jesus, May Him and His Blessed Mother protect and guide you and your family in each step of your way to God's Heaven,
Te adopto sinceramente como mi Nieto en Jesus y Maria, 🤱🙏✝️🎼👼👼🔯🕎
Shalom in Him, with Him and for Him!
Always wondered y catholic over orthodox, this was good 😊
Just curious, are you required to celebrate Christmas and Easter in the Catholic Church or do you only keep Biblical feast days?
Honoring the Feast days set aside for the birth of Jesus and His Passion, Death, and Resurrection is a REQUIREMENT in the Catholic Church. ChristMass is only celebrated in preparation for Pascha/Passover/Easter (Easter is the English word evolved from the Greek word Pascha which is derived from the Hebrew word Pesach meaning Passover)
The Pascha/Passover Feast days are the holiest Feast days on the Catholic liturgical calendar, they supersede every other Old Testament or New Testament feast days. No other days are holier than the Passover of Christ ie His Passion, His Death, and His Resurrection.
We have to attend Mass on those days however Easter Friday 3pm to Easter Saturday 6pm is the only time in the Catholic Church where we don't have a Mass because they are the 3days that Christ is dead. 0therwise every day of the week of the year we have 2-3 Todah masses.
@@SaintCharbelMiracleworker Thank you for that explaination.
@@polodown4729You're welcome brother. I forgot to mention the period is called Holy Week which starts with Palm Sunday which commemorates when Jesus rode into Jerusalem on the donkey and ends on Easter Sunday when He rose from the dead.
On Palm Sunday we reconstruct the entry into Jerusalem with churches decorated in palm fronds. In Jerusalem Catholics walk the procession while praying/singing and waving palm fronds from Bethpage Catholic Church on the Mount of Olives to Saint Ann's Church on the Via Dolorosa.
The 40 days prior to Holy Week is called Lent, we fast or give up something in preparation for Holy Week. The entire Catholic liturgical calendar is all preparation for Holy Week.
Christmas and Easter are Catholic in origin. They are the two most important festivals of the Catholic Church.
Christmas is preceded by a period of preparation, prayer and penance called Advent. It is followed by an Octave until January 1. Afterwards the Epiphany is celebrated on Jan 6 and the season ends the following Sunday. It is then ordinary time until Shrove Tuesday.
Easter is also preceded by a prayerful, penitential time of preparation called Lent. The last week of this season is Holy Week. Easter is also followed by an Octave to Divine Mercy Sunday and Eastertide continues until Pentecost seven weeks after Easter. Ascension Day is celebrated on the Thursday after the Sixth Sunday in Eastertide. Ordinary Time then resumes after Pentecost, but several festivals still remain for which the dates are dependent on the date of Easter. They are Trinity Sunday, one week after Pentecost, Corpus Christi, which was traditionally the Thursday after Trinity Sunday but is now often transferred to the Second Sunday after Pentecost, and the festivals of the Sacred Heart of Jesus and the Immaculate heart of Mary, Friday and Saturday respectively after the Second Sunday after Pentecost.
Is this the same as eastern catholicism?
Eastern Catholics are in communion with Rome and agree theologically with the Latins. They are Catholic.
but what happens when the supreme bishop is a heretic? we Trad Catholics have pachamama and liturgical abuses but the Orthodox have authentic, faith, morals and Liturgy
If you are indeed a traditional Catholic, you will remember that it is a decree of the Church to be submissive to the pope. That, until he actually causes you to sin.
On another note, this is why I show the roots of the Faith. The story is not new. Since the beginning, we have had wicked judges, priests, high priests and kings. That doesn’t mean we abandon the Faith or the authorities God has given us. It means we are prayerful for our leaders and that we do our best to live holy lives. We worry so much about the leadership but when it’s time to examine ourselves, we see we have plenty of issues of our own.
“Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.”
Matthew 7:3-5
Why the switch from messianic Jew to catholic?
Ufff. That’s a packed question. There is a lot to it. A shorter answer is in a prior video of mine:
ua-cam.com/video/JrUZ9Uyudt8/v-deo.html
But if you looks through my videos, I have a playlist called “Personal Favorites”…. They provide a bit more depth as to why I’m pursuing Orthodox Catholicism
Have you read the works of Margaret Barker? She writes a lot about the continuity between Temple Judaism and early Christianity, although she's a protestant. The best book to start with is The Gate of Heaven : the History and Symbolism of the Temple in Jerusalem (published: London : SPCK, 1991).
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Your username says it all chief
From my point of view, it seems that you started searching from a human wrong bias, looking for a tribe and institutional structure instead of looking for the Truth that transcends such view and unites despite all human differences. Also if you go to ANY Orthodox liturgy the Symbol of Faith or Creed states the same, "One Holy Catholic and Apostolic" (Church), because indeed Orthodoxy is the original Catholisism way before Rome separated from the rest of churches. Yes, there is human intervention in structure (culture, socio-political, etc) but that is not what we should be looking for when searching for the message. If you have problems understanding wich tradition is closer to the original early church, just look at the fruits and see wich one is less interested in changing to match the fashion of wordly times...
Thanks for sharing your opinion. As for me, I looked for what Yeshua created because the Church is His Mystical body. He set it up to have a particular Strcture because it is His Kingdom and all kingdoms have structures. His includes us so by definition, it will have a structure that is lead by the authorities He established. It has been like this from the very beginning. And I hope it is clear that when I say men lead, it is because they are lead by God. The Bishops and the Pope as the Bishop upon whom the primacy was given, are servants of Christ. Ultimately God is the Supreme Ruler and King of His Kingdom but to deny His structure is to deny His authority.
@@TheJewishCatholic "and upon this Rock..." The Rock is the Oath of Faith, not the person, neither the charge. The authority comes from The Message, through the messenger wich remain as a servant as long as he keeps the Oath. Rome lost the original Message long ago due to worldly ambitions. Let's not change from one synagoge to another one. Pay attention to the fruits of the Message and you will find the original non-material structure of the Church wich is NOT from this World. I'm sure if your heart is honest, you will search for clean water. God be with you.
@@hxrx9670 I recommend a source that will do a better job than me, on a UA-cam comment section, explaining this: Upon This Rock by Steve Ray
Man, I really liked your video on praying to saints in Judaism, but your arguments against the Orthodox Church are just not well thought and pretentious. Are there no rigional specifics between roman-catholic churches all over the world (compare Germany, Italy and South America); Are there no schisms (old catholic church, lefebrvrists and many others all over the world [also in Philippins]). The new schism is coming in Germany btw. due to so called "Synodal path" of the roman-catholic Church in Germany. These are well known facts, but you still use it against the orthodoxy. It's not smart.
I’m not a theologian. Lol. Just because someone has a UA-cam channel doesn’t mean they are an expert on everything. Additionally, those were my reasons back then. There are many more now. If you want someone who digs more into better reasons, check “Reason and Theology” and the book “Crossing the Tiber” by Steve Ray.
@@TheJewishCatholic that's just irresponsible.
@@markus3376 it’s called freedom of speech. Folks can express their views bruv. I just provided you sources. Go study up.
@@TheJewishCatholic nobody says you can't do that. Just wanted to mention, that you misinform those who watch your chanel and probably trust you. Giving comments is also a part of freedom of speech, isn't it?
@@markus3376 I’m not telling you not to comment. I’m informing you as to the nature of this video: old opinions. People can’t base their beliefs on what one guy says on UA-cam. It is always the responsibility of the viewers to verify what they watch, study and ultimately believe. So watch yourself, accusing me of “misinformation”, these are my (old) views on the matter. It’s one thing to critique and a whole other thing to make accusations.