We totally agree. If there is one think we like best about the class B vans, it's the innovative solutions they come up with for using the very limited space. Thanks for the comment.
We were on the road last year for 12 1/2 weeks in our Scope 18M (similar to the Rize). It worked very well - plenty of room. When you reach capacity, you simply stop loading things. It is all about priorities. I wouldn’t want anything longer than our 18 ft. We can go and park anywhere. Thanks for showcasing the unit.
Wow, now that must have been an awesome trip. Dan loves being able to park anywhere and relax & enjoy the drive. He loves the smaller Class B's, but Rose really wants more space. In our case compromise is key. Glad to hear you are happy with the van. Thanks for the vote of confidence. Happy Travels
We're glad you like our walkthroughs. With many of these RV's it is the first time we're seeing them so we feel it's important to share the specs since we may not have them at the time of filming. We like to keep our reactions genuine. Thanks for your support.
I wondered how tall you are because your head looked really close to the ceiling. Thanks for zooming through many RVs and not opening every single cupboard. Well done.
With the sneakers on I'm actually closer to 6'1" bringing me just to the ceiling of that Rize. It's funny you mention the cupboards, because we used to watch reviews where they went into every nook and cranny, and it got a bit tedious sometimes. We try to cover enough of the unit to spark interest from folks who are interested in what they see. Then they can pursue an in-depth observation at a local dealer. Thanks for the vote of confidence.
The problem that i've seen is that the majority of class B's has is the lack of outside compartments for storage. I have seen European counterparts with a lot more storage inside and outside, and way, way more cheaper than their American counterparts.
Yeah, we certainly have to prioritize carefully when packing for our trips. We really didn’t want to have to add a hitch-mounted storage box on the rear, but it is an option.
Your channel popped up just a few days ago and I am really enjoying your series on B - B+ -C. I immediately subscribed and setup for notifications. Starting to be interested and went to West Palm Beach on February 17th. There were many trailer homes and fifth wheelers outdoors. Maybe there were vans and camper vans in the AC showroom, but there was no signage to direct first time goers and I did not know where the AC showroom is located. Came home having seen many units that I was not looking to see, that wouldn't work for me and that I didn't like. Again, first time ever seeing these also. Perhaps you post show schedules on your channel? Don't know yet if you do or not. Is there a webpage of scheduled B-B+ and C shows for 2024? I am not interested in travel trailers, motor homes, fifth wheelers (if I sound like a pro...I am learning those classifications on UA-cam channels now). Thank you.
Actually, we didn't get a chance to attend the February show which has a much larger "outdoor" footprint. This show was a small annual show hosted by La Mesa RV on March 7-10, 2024. We discovered the show a few days before on the website rvlifemag.com. Their site has an extensive list of upcoming shows. We hope this helps. Thanks for the comment.
like the grech but to pricey. love the leisure vans, especially the garage one, but can't afford it. Due to the homeowners insurance no telling how much they're going to go up to where we can no longer afford which would mean dropping it, and any mortgage on your home you are screwed.,otherwise, I would buy one.
We are with you on this. We used to equate price with size, and couldn't understand why it seemed the smaller models were so expensive. Now that we have done some research, we see that the manufacturing process and cost can vary widely between Class C and Class B RV's. Check out our latest video on inexpensive Class C's where we find a nicely built small Class C for $69,995. Also, travel trailers are a very inexpensive way to experience the RV lifestyle. Thanks for the comment.
Yes, sometimes it's a bit challenging working in the tight spaces in the small Class B's. We are hoping to come across some Grech's at the next show so we can do a better job of showing how beautiful those vans really are. Thanks for the constructive criticism, we are always looking to improve our vids.
We posted this response on another video, but we feel this reply should be here as well: There has been quite a bit of discussion of this in the comments. We think most people understand the Class B Plus designation was added as a subset of the Class C designation by the manufacturers or dealers. It's also becoming clear that insurance companies and web sites like RVUSA don't recognize the B Plus category. Having said that, we are thinking that perhaps they should consider adding a category for a Class B/Class C hybrid to avoid confusion. I mean when you have a boxy Class C like the Thor Freedom Elite 22HEF at $69,995 and the Pleasure Way Plateau XLTS which is about the same length with a much different body at over $200,000 in the same category it might cause some difficulties when trying to search for one type or another. If it is really all about making the buying process easier for the consumer it seems this would make sense. We ask everyone to add their thoughts on this in the comments. Thanks.
The vans were simply awesome. Excellent use of space also.
We totally agree. If there is one think we like best about the class B vans, it's the innovative solutions they come up with for using the very limited space. Thanks for the comment.
We were on the road last year for 12 1/2 weeks in our Scope 18M (similar to the Rize). It worked very well - plenty of room. When you reach capacity, you simply stop loading things. It is all about priorities. I wouldn’t want anything longer than our 18 ft. We can go and park anywhere. Thanks for showcasing the unit.
Wow, now that must have been an awesome trip. Dan loves being able to park anywhere and relax & enjoy the drive. He loves the smaller Class B's, but Rose really wants more space. In our case compromise is key. Glad to hear you are happy with the van. Thanks for the vote of confidence. Happy Travels
I'm new to your channel and am enjoying all the B/B+/C tours. Thank you both for taking the time to include the specs and MSRP. 👍
We're glad you like our walkthroughs. With many of these RV's it is the first time we're seeing them so we feel it's important to share the specs since we may not have them at the time of filming. We like to keep our reactions genuine. Thanks for your support.
I wondered how tall you are because your head looked really close to the ceiling. Thanks for zooming through many RVs and not opening every single cupboard. Well done.
With the sneakers on I'm actually closer to 6'1" bringing me just to the ceiling of that Rize. It's funny you mention the cupboards, because we used to watch reviews where they went into every nook and cranny, and it got a bit tedious sometimes. We try to cover enough of the unit to spark interest from folks who are interested in what they see. Then they can pursue an in-depth observation at a local dealer. Thanks for the vote of confidence.
The problem that i've seen is that the majority of class B's has is the lack of outside compartments for storage.
I have seen European counterparts with a lot more storage inside and outside, and way, way more cheaper than their American counterparts.
Yeah, we certainly have to prioritize carefully when packing for our trips. We really didn’t want to have to add a hitch-mounted storage box on the rear, but it is an option.
Your channel popped up just a few days ago and I am really enjoying your series on B - B+ -C. I immediately subscribed and setup for notifications. Starting to be interested and went to West Palm Beach on February 17th. There were many trailer homes and fifth wheelers outdoors. Maybe there were vans and camper vans in the AC showroom, but there was no signage to direct first time goers and I did not know where the AC showroom is located. Came home having seen many units that I was not looking to see, that wouldn't work for me and that I didn't like. Again, first time ever seeing these also. Perhaps you post show schedules on your channel? Don't know yet if you do or not. Is there a webpage of scheduled B-B+ and C shows for 2024? I am not interested in travel trailers, motor homes, fifth wheelers (if I sound like a pro...I am learning those classifications on UA-cam channels now). Thank you.
Actually, we didn't get a chance to attend the February show which has a much larger "outdoor" footprint. This show was a small annual show hosted by La Mesa RV on March 7-10, 2024. We discovered the show a few days before on the website rvlifemag.com. Their site has an extensive list of upcoming shows. We hope this helps. Thanks for the comment.
like the grech but to pricey. love the leisure vans, especially the garage one, but can't afford it. Due to the homeowners insurance no telling how much they're going to go up to where we can no longer afford which would mean dropping it, and any mortgage on your home you are screwed.,otherwise, I would buy one.
We are with you on this. We used to equate price with size, and couldn't understand why it seemed the smaller models were so expensive. Now that we have done some research, we see that the manufacturing process and cost can vary widely between Class C and Class B RV's. Check out our latest video on inexpensive Class C's where we find a nicely built small Class C for $69,995. Also, travel trailers are a very inexpensive way to experience the RV lifestyle. Thanks for the comment.
Price
They do seem to be going up don't they?
The camera person did a poor job on photographing the Gretch. I couldn’t make it out…
Yes, sometimes it's a bit challenging working in the tight spaces in the small Class B's. We are hoping to come across some Grech's at the next show so we can do a better job of showing how beautiful those vans really are. Thanks for the constructive criticism, we are always looking to improve our vids.
Nope. Lost me at promaster
Ha ha! Well, they had to find some way to keep them "affordable." A Ford or Mercedes chassis is going to cost more. Thanks for the laugh.
There is no such thing as a B Plus!!
We posted this response on another video, but we feel this reply should be here as well:
There has been quite a bit of discussion of this in the comments. We think most people understand the Class B Plus designation was added as a subset of the Class C designation by the manufacturers or dealers. It's also becoming clear that insurance companies and web sites like RVUSA don't recognize the B Plus category. Having said that, we are thinking that perhaps they should consider adding a category for a Class B/Class C hybrid to avoid confusion. I mean when you have a boxy Class C like the Thor Freedom Elite 22HEF at $69,995 and the Pleasure Way Plateau XLTS which is about the same length with a much different body at over $200,000 in the same category it might cause some difficulties when trying to search for one type or another. If it is really all about making the buying process easier for the consumer it seems this would make sense. We ask everyone to add their thoughts on this in the comments. Thanks.