When he said "I tried to talk to you last week about this topic but it kind of...ya know" I feel like he's more comfortable trying to resolve issues/talks about topics on camera because he knows she's going to act on her best behavior. Some type of abuse is going on. Truly sickening and sad.
This is parasocial to think that you know what is going on in the innerworkings of their marriage just from one podcast. Maybe try not to armchair psychoanalyze people’s marriage? I don’t like Colleen or find her interesting but this is a HEAVY reach
And people are calling him terrible as well! I don’t know anything about him apart from this video, but looks like he’s just trying to not get her riled up
@@iiasslouii3274bc he sucks he was being a dick no one asked him to bring this up he decided to make this a conversation a public one after asking to be involved in something she told him was important then insulting it to her face that’s weird
now the ts fans are coming up with a conspiracy theory that colleen is not a real ts fan just so they don't have to be in the same fandom as her lol......i think she probably latched onto ts after getting canceled
@@bararobberbaron859I know this is kind of a joke but I actually think there’s a grain of truth to that. She feels like she has REAL arguments to defend Taylor Swift’s music, no real arguments to defend herself from the accusations!
That’s going to be a perpetually usable comeback against her for anything that comes up 😂. The uses are endless but made so much better by the fact that they’re true
4:24 that release of nervous energy in Erik's big exhale. He was literally scared to express his opinion and now is waiting for the repercussions. Been there.
He literally talks like a battered spouse. He’s constantly tripping on his words to make sure whatever he says doesn’t set her off. I knew she was gross with kids but she definitely comes off abusive in this podcast
Sorry but this just makes no sense to me so many comments are like “he’s walking on egg shells not to set her off” but he brought it up he made this a topic a topic no one was asking about and didn’t need to happen if he’s so scared of setting her off he just wouldn’t bring it up it’s not like this is some topic that’s difficult but needs to happen for their relationship he just decided hey can we publicly discuss how you really like this artist so I can once again go out of my way to tell you how I don’t like them after you clearly expressed that of if I don’t like them that’s fine but you don’t want to hear about it if anything he seems like he wants her to blow up
She 10000% ab*sed her last husband and the signs are extremeelyy obvious here too. These men were/are being silenced. (He’s spoken out about what went on during their marriage recently, YEARS after she slandered and lied about him and, of course, had her fanbase har*ss him)
It genuinely feels like he has a podcast, and his manager told him to invite her on and do ANYTHING to avoid making her angry, but she is already annoyed and thinks even talking to him is beneath her. Super uncomfortable dynamic for a married couple...
Her getting heated about him not liking Taylor Swift is exactly the opposite take when she stated Swifties don’t get offended when people dislike the music. Her telling him “you just don’t get it,” is lazy too. He’s probably perfectly able to understand the lyrics and just doesn’t prefer the sound. Happens all the time.
What I don't get is how people get offended when Other people don't care cause what sounds good to someone's ears isn't gonna sound good to someone else's ears
@@skullcrusher_1exactly, I don’t get the literal pant wetting experience some of her fans have. To be clear I do not dislike Taylor Swift nor does her being in the news constantly bother me either. There are sections of her fans who believe that her songs are on some Shakespearean level and there’s a so much deeper meaning to it all and if you don’t get it your dumb and you hate her, she writes from real life experiences, as does every other singer/songwriter on this planet, like you said there’s not a deeper meaning it’s just a woman singing her songs about her life. That’s it really.
As someone who studies poetry and has been writing it for over a decade, I’m gettin really tired of people comparing her to Shakespeare or calling her some ground breaking poet. If you think Taylor swift is breaking new ground you need to open a book or listen to some other song writers because I can assure you she barely scrapes the bottom of the barrel, which is fine, she’s allowed to be mediocre and you’re allowed to enjoy her music, just stop insisting she’s on the level of artists and poets like Margaret Atwood or Stevie Nicks, it just exposes that you live in a bubble and haven’t listened to that much music or actually read any poetry Edit: and before you say I “clearly haven’t listened to her songs” I wanted to see what all the hype was about so I did, listened to Evermore and the album she just released and I was not impressed
And then they say people who disagree "lack media literacy" and "don't get it". Hell, there's even a comment saying "I bet you don't listen to many songs" when the Shakespeare comparison was debated. If you like her music, that's fine! But worshipping the dirt she walks on is absurd. It's more about cult of celebrity than actual talent. She's mostly successful because her billionaire father bought her way into a major record label, not because of hard work or skill.
her songs are generic pop, she was really good years ago but fame got to her dropping quality with each subsequent album…she isn’t poetic, just very overrated but highly popular
The same way that people are allowed to enjoy her music, you’re also allowed to not. this is a little silly because Stevie Nicks herself has put Taylor Swift on a pedestal and even wrote a poem that is featured as an intro to Taylor’s newest album. Again, you’re allowed to not like her music! i also agree she shouldn’t be compared to Shakespeare, but if her work “barely scrapes the bottom of the barrel” then why are universities, colleges, academics teaching courses on her music/lyrics? I’ll reiterate one more time that you can not like someone’s work and you can say you don’t like someone’s work, but to downplay their talents for the sake of making yourself feel better about not liking someone’s work feels disingenuous as a poet.
@@meleenal7454well you don't need talent for opportunity. Taylor swifts whole career started because she was from a rich family, which isn't a problem but she wasn't exactly scouted either. Now that she's even richer and extremely popular they will teach things on her or use her as an example because it increases engagement. Especially when you have such die-hard fans that the moment anyone supports her they will flood to that organisation to support it. I think her talent is marketing and she is an impeccable business woman, creating lyrics and songs so generic majority of people can listen to them. Which is why people like it, it's relatable it's everyday experiences but is that ground breaking? No. In order to extraordinary you have to be better than the rest. I respect her achievements as a business woman, I respect her marketing, I think she is smart but do I think her achievements are because she's lyrically talented? No. I agree she's talented but what she's talented in is debatable.
My fiance and I have lots of differences & I think that makes it nicer. Instead of fighting about who listens to better music or watches better movies, we share those with each other. Like isn't that what you're supposed to do?
It's crazy. From my past relationships we always had a healthy way of disagreeing, mostly laughing about it or teasing each other, but respecting each other. Being in a relationship where anything trivial like this can start a fight must he exhausting.
Facts i get into debates about music all the time with my love and we just laugh it off after we’re just both passionate about it and appreciate each others taste regardless. We will go back and forth about it in good fun. It feels like im having a light hearted debate with one of the guys. It’s fun.
It’s so interesting to me that a creator who has trouble setting parasocial boundaries with fans also has an intense parasocial bond with a bigger artist.
Because she is a woman. A woman can get away with terrible things like that. EDP445 got exposed for being a heathen and look what happened to him. His career died overnight. Colleen can do the same thing, and people give her a pass...
He was lucky to get her. He was a barely-working unknown actor. Look at him now, married and wealthy. And you think Colleen is toxic. She supports him!
@@CraiginOhioUSA Are you legit saying abusive relationships don't happen when the abuser is supporting the abused?????? I pray to God you're a troll because I refuse to believe someone is that stupid.
She and Colleen are birds of a feather. Taylor has defended/dated/had an 11 year friendship with Matty Healy, who touched underage girls at his concerts. She's been friends with Drake for 11 years.
@@realestsienna I said this in another comment, but she had a lyric that said 'he has that boyish look that I like in a man', which, given her teen dating, is incredibly creepy.
The pod is always them fighting. It's either Colleen being snarky or Eric being passive-aggressive. I stopped watching them a long time ago because of this. I'm glad I did because then the second shit can blew up with her. I don't see how a 37 year old woman could be that excited about an album. I understand being excited and wanting to listen to it but to sit here and say I need peace and quiet and nothing to be said about this because it means that much to me it's just so odd. Especially when you have other priorities to worry about. Now she's flying off to Paris to catch Taylor's show. Where in the past she wouldn't even let her poor husband go on a silent Meditation Retreat. She manipulated him not going by using their kid as a as an excuse for him to stay home. Wouldn't you miss him you wouldn't leave us. She's probably afraid if he gets some alone time and he's going to see what kind of person she really is and take off hopefully with those kids.
Theory: She did this podcast thinking if she was pro swift, swifts vocal online fans would fight those talking about what she did ....thereby creating a defensive attack wall
...& she put her hubby up to this. He honestly doesn't care, like he said, but her arguing w/him is her "proof" that she's a true fan. He was probably hesitant bc he was worried he would be attacked online if he has his own channel etc. I like your theory 👍👍
OMG I WAS SEARCHING FOR THIS COMMENT!!! She is trying to jump into a new skin - being a die hard Swiftie - so people will look away from the one she abandoned. It’s really annoying that she is using word vomit to make herself sound more passionate about her music to connect with other fans. It feels forced and icky.
The moment he was like "I don't know if wanna have a conversation about this" should be the moment you realize that that is not gonna be a fun theme for your podcast.
They need to split up. There's so much simmering resentment and barely-veiled snipes you'd think you were watching a sibling rivalry at work, not a discussion between a married couple. God forbid they ever discuss politics.
@@lovesunset345 LITERALLY 2 MINUTES after saying that she goes into a rant about how him personally not liking the album ruined the experience for her.
Right? Like if you say that about any large fandom, it’s just automatically not true. All it takes is one loud and toxic fan to negate that. And I can assure you her fandom has much more than just one. I can’t claim all swifties or armies or blinks or even my own fandom wavs are all perfect human beings. One could argue most but even saying that doesn’t allow you to hide behind it and say “we aren’t a part of the problem here”. It takes two to tango after all
When Colleen said "Swifties don't push it onto anyone" Uhm? Yes, so many of them are literally obsessed and they've threatened me before if I didn't like her new album. Taylor swift is mid, and that's my opinion. They just need to deal with it. She's not some goddess who saved the world..
@@PoppinPumpkins her fan base is scary crazy, we all heard her correct him with the ‘31’ songs comment, that said more than enough🤣 I don’t like it nor hate it, I’m more into hard EDM stuff.
I'd lose my shit if my girlfriend was constantly around the house listening to music out loud. I'm very quiet, I use headphones or listen quietly to whatever I'm listening to.
Yeah, because it's very inconsiderate, unless the music and time have been agreed upon beforehand. Headphones have existed since, what, the 1960s? 🤦🏾♀️ She's just selfish...
This whole podcast feels like being trapped by the most unhappiest couple at a house party when you're trying to leave. Plus dude looks like he just wants to show off his lame tattoo
That was ~ SO PAINFUL ~ He was definitely holding back a LOT of what he wanted to actually say so she wouldnt freak out publicly. That is not a healthy relationship sign x_x
I mean.....I have met so many Swifties that will put down other artists in favor of Taylor. Why is that okay, but when people say Taylor's music is bad....that's wrong? What? Also this whole segment is so unnecessary 😂 He doesn't like Taylor. Don't blast her music around the house cause he thinks its bad. Put on your headphones and problem solved. He should do the same with his music.
Seriously. They don’t have to like the same things. What if he likes something she doesn’t? If he is forced to listen to Taylor Swift then she better try to understand and like his interests.
@@Winnie589 Just because you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. You apparently missed what the rabid Swifties were doing in response to MeatCanyon’s cartoon of her…
Same with Miley Cyrus. When her song Flowers came out, I said how I didn't care for her and I was already over her new song since it was literally the only thing everyone around me could talk about, and I lost 2 friends that very moment. I feel like those two have some of the most cultish, toxic fanbases ever. I'm almost convinced that Taylor Swift and Miley Cyrus produce music in a specific frequency that only certain people can hear, and it brainwashes them. Like a subliminal message kind of thing on steroids.
I guess its common when your god is considered one of the most popular people on the planet by regards. Im used to it being a juggalo and metal head, you get used to things you like being shit on, mostly by women too. lol
The exact problem with Swifties. They say people who do not like her music always attack them when in reality they do most of the attacking because they think saying anything negative about Taylor Swift means they have declared war. Also whenever someone tells a joke expressing their dislike for that sort of behavior they do the same thing. In doing that they also hurt the image of Taylor Swift.
"A personal journey" m'am a personal journey is me discovering how to actually care about my naturally curly hair and not just straightening it or throwing it back into a ponytail bc I can't stand the poof. Like this actually has meaning in my life bc I'm accepting who I am. Listening to t-swift is not a life discovering moment. If that is, you need therapy and to broaden your horizons. Her lyrics aren't that deep.
My friend, a grown ass man, has given me shit for not liking Taylor Swift. I was genuinely surprised when I learned he was a fan because nothing else in his music collection hints at being a swiftie.
@@WobblesandBean well September is signed with those guys who steal 110% of his income, while August is against that, so clearly, they’re not the same person.
listening to them feels like being in the backseat of a car listening to your parents psuedo-argue and you've kind of got the hunch mom and dad are gonna divorce
i am a self titled swiftie and the way she talks about her music just makes me think that the only reason she likes taylor is bc it's popular and it creates an opening where she can weasel herself into a community and hide from her mistakes. we dont want u here!!! a normal fan of taylor swift is not going to correct 30 to 31 or argue with someone who clearly disagrees
Exactly! She knows there's millions of Swifties and is holding on to a thread hoping she can get those fans to watch her! She's a pathetic woman who needs to leave the internet!
She straight gaslights him so much in this. When she said “you are allowed to feel that way” and then the thing about him just taking interest in something thats important to her. It just made me cringe
Honestly, this is what it seems to be happening to me. Eric is scared to express how he really feels because he is scared of Colleen and Colleen is holding back to not look nor sound like a bully. I may be wrong but that's the impression I got.
This conversation would definitely have gone a lot worse if they weren’t recording a podcast. That condescension behind Colleen’s suppressed annoyance is unbearable
Also I've bared witness to men leaving a funeral early to go watch a football game. We cannot limit being passionate about something (or in some cases obsessed) to just swifties. There is a lot of sexism when TS fans are discussed, namely by men, slut shaming Taylor, calling fans crazy, sh^tting on her music despite not listening to any of it (besides the ones that are unavoidably popular but do not represent her entire, diverse discography). And ofc some women with internal misyony will do the same. I am not saying if you don't like her that you're sexist, don't take me wrong. I saying the people who go out their way to make these comments - that hold no criticism or sometime no relevance at all to her music or diss any interests a lot of girls/women have, deeming their interests as inferior - is sexist. Which is unfortunately what I see a lot now. I know people don't like swifties because the craziest ones are always going to be the loudest. But lets not act like this is inclusive to just swifties. Many men will go fereal over sports to the point of aggression, even abuse rates spike during sports seasons. I'd say that was more unhinged that a swiftie innocently dressing up to go to her eras tour. But no one wants to speak on that do they...
Sometimes I watch couples talking and their chemistry is good I feel like I'm third wheeling them. Like, please get a room? Watching these two is like, do you even like each other or???
🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️ This is like an awkward moment when you're hanging out with your friends that are the type of couples that always fight 😂😂 that's a no for me, even without her background
What really pisses me off is when people compare Taylor Swift to Bob Dylan. She's not Dylan - she's nowhere near him! Music history wasnÄ't altered by Taylor and it probably never will be.
Sharing experience. I kinda sympathise with her when he put down the album. In my country, when I was young , we had a popular comedy duo for children. Then I watched the comedians with my grandfather in the room. He came down hard on the silliness and stated you have to be stupid to enjoy this shit! I was 6 and never appreciated the duo the same way.
8:23 this part reminds of this one reddit story, where this woman's husband just suddenly had a massive interest in Destiny's Child, and his- practically- obsession with it just got so bad he was spending so much money on merch and it'd be all he'd ever talk about, and I think she was debating on divorce (I don't remember exactly, it's been a while since I've seen it)
They're married and yet they talk like they don't even like each other it's so awkward it's hard to listen to 💀
Their dislike for each other proves the marriage is legit. 😂
@@phaedrapage4217 Ok boomer
no i was so confused i thought they were friends until she said he went to bed LMAOOO
Because he is to old for her
"too old"? They look about the same age to me. **shrugs**
him: "you were sexually inappropriate with 12 year olds..."
colleen: "13"
And that's a lot of 12 year olds...
@@Simonisms You just made this comment 10x better!!
HAHHAHAHA
😭
💀💀💀
There is such weird underlying tension between these two like he is constantly choosing his words to avoid starting an actual fight.
Behind the camera is colleen's best friend holding a gun lmfao Edit: minor spelling mistake
I recoiled from my screen when I saw this 🤮
How is she still on UA-cam!!
Fr
Thoroughly emasculated.
@@misterpink8099I mean he knew how she was considering he was around when her and Josh were together
When he said "I tried to talk to you last week about this topic but it kind of...ya know" I feel like he's more comfortable trying to resolve issues/talks about topics on camera because he knows she's going to act on her best behavior. Some type of abuse is going on. Truly sickening and sad.
This is parasocial to think that you know what is going on in the innerworkings of their marriage just from one podcast. Maybe try not to armchair psychoanalyze people’s marriage? I don’t like Colleen or find her interesting but this is a HEAVY reach
Imagine having to pull out the therapy-speak to talk to your wife about a music album. Their fights must be legendary
PLEASE-
When the world didn't want her the most, she returned.
XD fr
Lmao 😂
😂
And she goes back to her normal routine of... Grooming minors!
Hooray!!
Yup
WOW she can count to 31?
thought she liked to stop at 12. 👀
BAHAHAHHAHHAA
FOUL 😭🤣
HELP
Brooooo 😂😂
clever.
Never seen someone walk on eggshells so much. She must constantly be a second from blowing up. He looks scared to pick his words
And she keeps interrupting him. 😣
And people are calling him terrible as well! I don’t know anything about him apart from this video, but looks like he’s just trying to not get her riled up
She has a massive overestimation of her own intrinsic value, and he's a s1mp.
@@iiasslouii3274bc he sucks he was being a dick no one asked him to bring this up he decided to make this a conversation a public one after asking to be involved in something she told him was important then insulting it to her face that’s weird
That's exactly what i've thought too!
*describing her character miranda*
“she’s an unpleasant person who can’t sing”
MMMM IRONIC
Reminds me of someone... oh, right, shes exactly like the Island Boys!
What? Who's Taylor Swift?
Colleen being a crazy Taylor swift fan makes so much sense
She’s not though. She never once mentioned liking Taylor swift in her videos until now. Nice try though.
@@allisoncastle typical swiftie response
Right? Who would've guessed someone so annoying and unlikable would be part of the most annoying and unlikable fan base out there 😂
@@onionbubs386Acting like a 13-year-old trying to fit into a clique at school over music is pretentious & kinda sad, tbh.
now the ts fans are coming up with a conspiracy theory that colleen is not a real ts fan just so they don't have to be in the same fandom as her lol......i think she probably latched onto ts after getting canceled
For a podcast named "relax", it does not feel relaxing listening to it.
They don’t seem particularly relaxed either.
That’s the point. Look at logo. Grow some braincells
@@NickelNassif11 relax im making a joke
Ba dum tss
Actually crazy how she is more mad about people not liking Taylor Swift’s music than the whole internet telling you that you are a pedo. 😭
She's probably thinking 'But Taylor Swift not being good isn't true, while me being a pedo is'. She's gotta stand for the truth right? ;)
@@bararobberbaron859I know this is kind of a joke but I actually think there’s a grain of truth to that. She feels like she has REAL arguments to defend Taylor Swift’s music, no real arguments to defend herself from the accusations!
Well, when you are a narcissist your opinion is reality 😅
Fr smh 🤦🏾♀️
"release of 30 songs"
"31"
"didnt you also groom a couple of minors?"
"1... I-I mean"
That’s going to be a perpetually usable comeback against her for anything that comes up 😂. The uses are endless but made so much better by the fact that they’re true
LOL “oh you definitely aren’t missing that little 1 huh..”
Yeah 31 of them 🤣 jk jk
"You were 30 when you started grooming kids"
"31"
Someone get Kendrick on her case
Having a marital argument about Taylor swift is crazy
Fr
4:24 that release of nervous energy in Erik's big exhale. He was literally scared to express his opinion and now is waiting for the repercussions. Been there.
"release of 30 songs.."
"31."
💀
LMFAO
thank you for this original and groundbreaking comment! The deaf community will really appreciate this one!
@@kianmalley595 shut up
And we all know what song #31 is! 🚂
Hey! That one extra song is one of her BEST, bro!
37 year old woman trying not to physically fight her man over Taylor Swift 😂
What Happens next, is shocking 😱
@@dreamercraftyt7480 Not clickbait 😱😱😱 gone sexual 🥵
Stop hahahahaha ✋😂😂
Ahh yes, three of my least favorite things, Collen, Podcasts, and Taylor Swift.
#BringBackTheDuck
It was an iconic part of the channels outro
He literally talks like a battered spouse. He’s constantly tripping on his words to make sure whatever he says doesn’t set her off. I knew she was gross with kids but she definitely comes off abusive in this podcast
Sometimes if someone does one they are the other
Fr I just got here but justice for this man
Sorry but this just makes no sense to me so many comments are like “he’s walking on egg shells not to set her off” but he brought it up he made this a topic a topic no one was asking about and didn’t need to happen if he’s so scared of setting her off he just wouldn’t bring it up it’s not like this is some topic that’s difficult but needs to happen for their relationship he just decided hey can we publicly discuss how you really like this artist so I can once again go out of my way to tell you how I don’t like them after you clearly expressed that of if I don’t like them that’s fine but you don’t want to hear about it if anything he seems like he wants her to blow up
If someone treats children like this they’re shitty to everyone else in her life tbh
She 10000% ab*sed her last husband and the signs are extremeelyy obvious here too. These men were/are being silenced.
(He’s spoken out about what went on during their marriage recently, YEARS after she slandered and lied about him and, of course, had her fanbase har*ss him)
Wouldn't have known they were married till he mentioned it
It genuinely feels like he has a podcast, and his manager told him to invite her on and do ANYTHING to avoid making her angry, but she is already annoyed and thinks even talking to him is beneath her.
Super uncomfortable dynamic for a married couple...
She’s trying to strike a cord and it’s probably a MINORRRRRRRRRRRRR
HELP
this feels like my divorced parents trying not to argue at family dinner
But it’s over Taylor Swift. 😭
this feels like a family guy cut-out
@@maffe_distroyeryes 😂
Her getting heated about him not liking Taylor Swift is exactly the opposite take when she stated Swifties don’t get offended when people dislike the music. Her telling him “you just don’t get it,” is lazy too. He’s probably perfectly able to understand the lyrics and just doesn’t prefer the sound. Happens all the time.
This is the comment I was looking for. 💯
What I don't get is how people get offended when Other people don't care cause what sounds good to someone's ears isn't gonna sound good to someone else's ears
I mean let's be real a Taylor Swift song is about as deep as a drop from an eyedropper so there's really not that much to not get. 😂
@@skullcrusher_1exactly, I don’t get the literal pant wetting experience some of her fans have. To be clear I do not dislike Taylor Swift nor does her being in the news constantly bother me either.
There are sections of her fans who believe that her songs are on some Shakespearean level and there’s a so much deeper meaning to it all and if you don’t get it your dumb and you hate her, she writes from real life experiences, as does every other singer/songwriter on this planet, like you said there’s not a deeper meaning it’s just a woman singing her songs about her life. That’s it really.
Mc was right with that animation break up song
This podcast could be acutately called 'Two unlikeable people, being unlikeable'.
Oh the theme song of that would go crazy
And unlistenable 💀
What if the Frenimies podcast was toxic garbage from the sta- Oh wait.
#BringBackTheDuck
It was an iconic part of the channels outro
lol
In school to be a therapist and I have seen some shit. These two make me viscerally uncomfortable.
at least you have a textbook example to show others how not to be a couple
@@bostonrailfan2427 PLEASE
As someone who studies poetry and has been writing it for over a decade, I’m gettin really tired of people comparing her to Shakespeare or calling her some ground breaking poet. If you think Taylor swift is breaking new ground you need to open a book or listen to some other song writers because I can assure you she barely scrapes the bottom of the barrel, which is fine, she’s allowed to be mediocre and you’re allowed to enjoy her music, just stop insisting she’s on the level of artists and poets like Margaret Atwood or Stevie Nicks, it just exposes that you live in a bubble and haven’t listened to that much music or actually read any poetry
Edit: and before you say I “clearly haven’t listened to her songs” I wanted to see what all the hype was about so I did, listened to Evermore and the album she just released and I was not impressed
And then they say people who disagree "lack media literacy" and "don't get it". Hell, there's even a comment saying "I bet you don't listen to many songs" when the Shakespeare comparison was debated. If you like her music, that's fine! But worshipping the dirt she walks on is absurd. It's more about cult of celebrity than actual talent. She's mostly successful because her billionaire father bought her way into a major record label, not because of hard work or skill.
her songs are generic pop, she was really good years ago but fame got to her dropping quality with each subsequent album…she isn’t poetic, just very overrated but highly popular
The same way that people are allowed to enjoy her music, you’re also allowed to not. this is a little silly because Stevie Nicks herself has put Taylor Swift on a pedestal and even wrote a poem that is featured as an intro to Taylor’s newest album. Again, you’re allowed to not like her music! i also agree she shouldn’t be compared to Shakespeare, but if her work “barely scrapes the bottom of the barrel” then why are universities, colleges, academics teaching courses on her music/lyrics? I’ll reiterate one more time that you can not like someone’s work and you can say you don’t like someone’s work, but to downplay their talents for the sake of making yourself feel better about not liking someone’s work feels disingenuous as a poet.
@@meleenal7454well you don't need talent for opportunity. Taylor swifts whole career started because she was from a rich family, which isn't a problem but she wasn't exactly scouted either. Now that she's even richer and extremely popular they will teach things on her or use her as an example because it increases engagement. Especially when you have such die-hard fans that the moment anyone supports her they will flood to that organisation to support it. I think her talent is marketing and she is an impeccable business woman, creating lyrics and songs so generic majority of people can listen to them. Which is why people like it, it's relatable it's everyday experiences but is that ground breaking? No. In order to extraordinary you have to be better than the rest. I respect her achievements as a business woman, I respect her marketing, I think she is smart but do I think her achievements are because she's lyrically talented? No. I agree she's talented but what she's talented in is debatable.
Couples should not feel the need to walk on eggshells when disagreeing on something as trivial as a music artist, this is not healthy
My fiance and I have lots of differences & I think that makes it nicer. Instead of fighting about who listens to better music or watches better movies, we share those with each other. Like isn't that what you're supposed to do?
@@goober112 I hope he pretends to like terrible shows to make you watch them
It's crazy. From my past relationships we always had a healthy way of disagreeing, mostly laughing about it or teasing each other, but respecting each other. Being in a relationship where anything trivial like this can start a fight must he exhausting.
I know! It seems like he’s terrified of her and that’s so sad! I didn’t realize they were married at first bc the tension is CRAZY
Facts i get into debates about music all the time with my love and we just laugh it off after we’re just both passionate about it and appreciate each others taste regardless. We will go back and forth about it in good fun. It feels like im having a light hearted debate with one of the guys. It’s fun.
can I create a term here, UA-cam Zombie, someone absolutely canceled to death but still tries to create.
Like iilluminaughtii
honestly, bars. zombinfluencer
@@jokarr33 apparently she quit
#BringBackTheDuck
It was an iconic part of the channels outro
So edp445 must be the youtube-zombie KING
Ain’t no ukulele solo good enough to excuse this 😭
Wasn’t good enough last time either
I liked the plankton ai rendition of it.
@@sonofillaheewait, what!? Lol I gotta check this out
She needs to whip the pan flute out
And the song sucks. It's not even good when you take away all the drama and background. It's just garbage for the sake of garbage.
"It's ok"
*In aggressive tone*
It’s so interesting to me that a creator who has trouble setting parasocial boundaries with fans also has an intense parasocial bond with a bigger artist.
Why does the child toucher have a podcast
You should use peepee toucher, it has a much more vile and repulsive ring to it that truly describes what the person is about.
Its career death throes
Because Taylor has lots of underage fans
Because she is a woman. A woman can get away with terrible things like that. EDP445 got exposed for being a heathen and look what happened to him. His career died overnight. Colleen can do the same thing, and people give her a pass...
Im surprised someone was willing to date her, but hes just as masculine as she is..
That guy is clearly scared of her. Scared of stepping over the line or saying the incorrect thing. What a toxic relationship.
her last husband was too. She sucks.
every partner of a swifty is clearly scared to say anything neutral to negative about TS
You could say ...toxic gossip train 😂😂😂😂
He was lucky to get her. He was a barely-working unknown actor. Look at him now, married and wealthy. And you think Colleen is toxic. She supports him!
@@CraiginOhioUSA Are you legit saying abusive relationships don't happen when the abuser is supporting the abused?????? I pray to God you're a troll because I refuse to believe someone is that stupid.
This is the Toxic Gossip Train podcast
Gossip gossip gossip choo choo
All abooooaaaard!
#BringBackTheDuck
It was an iconic part of the channels outro
@@BringBackTheDuckyou right
#bringbacktheduck
It would have been more interesting if she actually named it that
I don't think even Taylor Swift would like knowing Colleen is into her music. 😬
Nah she wouldn't care. Most of the ppl in the industry are just like Colleen and worse. Taylor works with those people.
taylor has dated 17 yr olds when she was in her 20s so i doubt she gaf
She and Colleen are birds of a feather. Taylor has defended/dated/had an 11 year friendship with Matty Healy, who touched underage girls at his concerts. She's been friends with Drake for 11 years.
Maybe t swift needs to put a song out about not diddling kids... It could change Colleen and make her not diddle kids
Get Taylor on the phone asap
taylor has dated 17 yr olds when she was in her 20s so it’d just be the pot calling the kettle black
@@realestsienna I said this in another comment, but she had a lyric that said 'he has that boyish look that I like in a man', which, given her teen dating, is incredibly creepy.
@@SydneyStewart-d3f GEEEEEEEEZ 😨
@@SydneyStewart-d3f yikes
It bothers me the way he talks to her. It's like he's scared to like say something wrong or something
We don't know if it's a fear of backlash from her, The Internet Swifties, or both, ig 😉👍
He probably has been abused mentally by her , and fears the safety of the kid in the house
thats how it is discussing taylor swift with anyone while trying to avoid being labeled a sexist
this conversation is clearly not about Taylor Swift lmao
I wonder how filled with pride Taylor is with this glowing endorsement?
What is it about? Or is it like a general convo about having opinions?
@@lilfizz1619
It's more like they're hashing out their grievances with each other under the veil of a discussion about Taylor Swift.
@@OrangeyChocolate ohh
I've said it before, celebrity obsession is f*cking creepy and gross.
Very brave of you
100 percent. You can like someone’s music or movies without being a psycho who worships them and rages at anyone who disagrees
And with the internet, it's only getting worse and more parasocial.
Yo, first time viewer and I adore the way you don’t pick a side but critically talk about what both of them are saying. Well done.
The pod is always them fighting. It's either Colleen being snarky or Eric being passive-aggressive. I stopped watching them a long time ago because of this. I'm glad I did because then the second shit can blew up with her.
I don't see how a 37 year old woman could be that excited about an album. I understand being excited and wanting to listen to it but to sit here and say I need peace and quiet and nothing to be said about this because it means that much to me it's just so odd. Especially when you have other priorities to worry about.
Now she's flying off to Paris to catch Taylor's show. Where in the past she wouldn't even let her poor husband go on a silent Meditation Retreat. She manipulated him not going by using their kid as a as an excuse for him to stay home. Wouldn't you miss him you wouldn't leave us. She's probably afraid if he gets some alone time and he's going to see what kind of person she really is and take off hopefully with those kids.
uh excitement about music doesn't have an age limit lol. Taylor swift should tho
Theory: She did this podcast thinking if she was pro swift, swifts vocal online fans would fight those talking about what she did ....thereby creating a defensive attack wall
...& she put her hubby up to this. He honestly doesn't care, like he said, but her arguing w/him is her "proof" that she's a true fan. He was probably hesitant bc he was worried he would be attacked online if he has his own channel etc.
I like your theory 👍👍
"defensive attack wall"
I see you, fellow Son of Dorn.
Oh that’s an interesting theory and I can absolutely see this being 100% true, it makes soooooo much sense.
That is absolutely it.
OMG I WAS SEARCHING FOR THIS COMMENT!!!
She is trying to jump into a new skin - being a die hard Swiftie - so people will look away from the one she abandoned. It’s really annoying that she is using word vomit to make herself sound more passionate about her music to connect with other fans. It feels forced and icky.
The moment he was like "I don't know if wanna have a conversation about this" should be the moment you realize that that is not gonna be a fun theme for your podcast.
How is she allowed on podcasts?!?
(EDIT Guys please calm down ik how free speech works 😭)
Lmaooo
she hosted her own to avoid the trouble of getting invited to be a guest
It's called a "PEDcast" so she could be on it.
Who let her out of the pred sphere?
She’s a woman
They both just seem like they’re so toxic lol, maybe that’s why they’re great for each other
They need to split up. There's so much simmering resentment and barely-veiled snipes you'd think you were watching a sibling rivalry at work, not a discussion between a married couple. God forbid they ever discuss politics.
6:05 she’s TRIPPING, I’ve personally seen “swifties” lose their marbles when someone criticize Taylor Swift 🤣 😅
she’s literally doing that exact thing in this too 😅
@@lovesunset345 LITERALLY 2 MINUTES after saying that she goes into a rant about how him personally not liking the album ruined the experience for her.
One reason I moved from my old house because of the unhealthy obsession my roommate had over taylor.. she was everywhere in my "house"
Right? Like if you say that about any large fandom, it’s just automatically not true. All it takes is one loud and toxic fan to negate that. And I can assure you her fandom has much more than just one. I can’t claim all swifties or armies or blinks or even my own fandom wavs are all perfect human beings. One could argue most but even saying that doesn’t allow you to hide behind it and say “we aren’t a part of the problem here”. It takes two to tango after all
@@SweetforS oh 100% most swifties are the sweetest people in the world, my bestie included, but there are some fans who will jump down your throat.
They sound like how my parents would have passive aggressive discussions when I was younger.
I’m almost feeling nostalgic.
So that's why this was so familiar, I remember my parents "talking" (ahem arguing) like this
@@StarDustwolf77 ye it’s like exactly like that lol
How nice to have that as a podcast..🤣
When Colleen said "Swifties don't push it onto anyone" Uhm? Yes, so many of them are literally obsessed and they've threatened me before if I didn't like her new album. Taylor swift is mid, and that's my opinion. They just need to deal with it. She's not some goddess who saved the world..
Bruh... same
@@PoppinPumpkins her fan base is scary crazy, we all heard her correct him with the ‘31’ songs comment, that said more than enough🤣
I don’t like it nor hate it, I’m more into hard EDM stuff.
I'd lose my shit if my girlfriend was constantly around the house listening to music out loud. I'm very quiet, I use headphones or listen quietly to whatever I'm listening to.
Yeah that is rude af just use headphones like a normal person
When we’re cleaning or cooking together, yeah, let’s find a station and listen to music. Every other time, me and my headphones rock out.
Difference is, she paid for the house. She supports him. Don't you think it's ok if she plays the speakers?
Yeah, because it's very inconsiderate, unless the music and time have been agreed upon beforehand.
Headphones have existed since, what, the 1960s? 🤦🏾♀️ She's just selfish...
@@rosethorne9155 It's her house. Seems like the husband could just allow it, or wear earplugs
This whole podcast feels like being trapped by the most unhappiest couple at a house party when you're trying to leave. Plus dude looks like he just wants to show off his lame tattoo
Wait… I thought this woman was cancelled can’t she just go raise her children off the internet 😭
I cant believe its almost been a year since toxic gossip train
FR AND HI I SAW UR PFP AND ITS TAYLOR SWIFT AND I LOVE TAYLOR SWIFT
Ikr, crazy ngl
@@hrts4gyu you’re the type of person august was making fun of in this video
ALL ABOARD!#
Really💀
That was ~ SO PAINFUL ~
He was definitely holding back a LOT of what he wanted to actually say so she wouldnt freak out publicly. That is not a healthy relationship sign x_x
Every time I forget about her, she pops back up.
omnipresence
I feel like American Taylor Swift fans r the mad ones, the English and Scottish swift fans iv met r mostly chill … mostly
5:57 Those are like 99.9999999999999999999 percent of the swifties lol
Kinda agreed, not all (like me) but definitely a good amount. I say a good 30%-50%.
She is unhinged. She hasn’t changed her behavior at all.
yes she has.
I mean.....I have met so many Swifties that will put down other artists in favor of Taylor. Why is that okay, but when people say Taylor's music is bad....that's wrong? What?
Also this whole segment is so unnecessary 😂 He doesn't like Taylor. Don't blast her music around the house cause he thinks its bad. Put on your headphones and problem solved. He should do the same with his music.
I’ve never seen it
Seriously. They don’t have to like the same things. What if he likes something she doesn’t? If he is forced to listen to Taylor Swift then she better try to understand and like his interests.
@@Winnie589 Just because you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. You apparently missed what the rabid Swifties were doing in response to MeatCanyon’s cartoon of her…
@@Honeybeerose88 I don’t watch meatcanyon
i dont like her music but its not terrible by any means. i think at this point when we say we dont like her, we're really talking abt her fans lmao
imagine these two making dinner "i want brocolli" "i dont like brocolli" lets make a podcast about it ...
*boring, mundane differing opinion that every normal person has*
"omg good content!"
That sounds riveting. Where do I subscribe?
Only nice thing I can say about her is, her hair on the podcast was kinda cute. That’s it. I am now going to say nothing at all.
SHES BACK? Kids…stay safe😔🙏
how is she still getting chances on the internet what.
She’s a woman, a male UA-camr named “leafy” got banned for criticizing pokimane
Its the internet. Someone will support her...folks support MAPs 🤷🏾♀️
It is the internet. Any one can use and post on it. Lmao what the cops gonna arrest her for making a podcast?
@@PatrickWilliams-ts4le well of course. It’s perfectly reasonable
@@PatrickWilliams-ts4le stop defending bad behavior stop cursing its a sin dude
she thought we would forget that she prefers children
Lots of kids like Taylor, so makes sense she likes Taylor to
@@BringBackTheDuck dude your subscribed to dhar man stop spamming
not "likes"
"prefers"
Proof?
of course of course
I've literally never met a Taylor Swift fan that doesn't automatically get defensive when I've voiced that I don't get her or the obsession.
Same with Miley Cyrus. When her song Flowers came out, I said how I didn't care for her and I was already over her new song since it was literally the only thing everyone around me could talk about, and I lost 2 friends that very moment.
I feel like those two have some of the most cultish, toxic fanbases ever. I'm almost convinced that Taylor Swift and Miley Cyrus produce music in a specific frequency that only certain people can hear, and it brainwashes them. Like a subliminal message kind of thing on steroids.
Hi
It's like like when u say i don't like trump. And they all get angry
I guess its common when your god is considered one of the most popular people on the planet by regards. Im used to it being a juggalo and metal head, you get used to things you like being shit on, mostly by women too. lol
@@ghettolicerx2 that’s not remotely the same
The exact problem with Swifties. They say people who do not like her music always attack them when in reality they do most of the attacking because they think saying anything negative about Taylor Swift means they have declared war. Also whenever someone tells a joke expressing their dislike for that sort of behavior they do the same thing. In doing that they also hurt the image of Taylor Swift.
"A personal journey" m'am a personal journey is me discovering how to actually care about my naturally curly hair and not just straightening it or throwing it back into a ponytail bc I can't stand the poof. Like this actually has meaning in my life bc I'm accepting who I am. Listening to t-swift is not a life discovering moment. If that is, you need therapy and to broaden your horizons. Her lyrics aren't that deep.
I've said it once and I'll say it again: her lyrics aren't deep, they are just weird.
"There are no swifties that says everyone has to like it"
Yea, that's 110% bullshit.
My friend, a grown ass man, has given me shit for not liking Taylor Swift. I was genuinely surprised when I learned he was a fan because nothing else in his music collection hints at being a swiftie.
@@cinema_chiche sounds like he should be on a list tbh keep an eye on him
@@keeperofthe7keys1987 🤣 he's an idiot, but he's not crazy lol
She only like the Taylor Swift songs in the key of A minor.
#BringBackTheDuck
It was an iconic part of the channels outro
OOOOOOHHH
Boom, roasted!
Better than A flat minor, amirite?
Ok Kendrick
Tf is the ukulele doing on the wall 💀
WAIT WHAT.
COLLEEN FUCKING BALLINGER-
It turned 18
Don't panic! That's not a ukulele haha
It’s a mandolin, I think
That’s a mandolin 💀 they’re pretty similar though
girl just listen w headphones … i stay listening to my music or my shows w headphones on if it’s that important to me
So, they are married, yes? Why do they act like acquaintances forced to have an interaction?
"you dont understand why her lyrics are brilliant" i cant
Can’t wait for the September the Duck and August the Duck podcast
How come you never see them both at the same time? 🤔
@@WobblesandBean well September is signed with those guys who steal 110% of his income, while August is against that, so clearly, they’re not the same person.
They only come out of their homes during their respected time of the year, duh
I don't stand for July the Mallard erasure!
Where's December the Penguin.
Idk if you ever say this exactly but the podcast is rambly and it feels like you're listening to the middle of a argument
And are the mega uncomfortable third wheel in the whole situation.
Yeah this is something that shouldn't be recorded
Taylor Swift's songwriting is more brilliant than Colleen Ballinger's.
Wow..she’s really unhinged to be this attached to Taylor Swift at her age
These two are tip toeing around eachother way too much. This type of communication seems considerate but is really just ineffective
with all due respect in your unique subjective individual opinionated opinion which is of course open to correction in this moment in time
listening to them feels like being in the backseat of a car listening to your parents psuedo-argue and you've kind of got the hunch mom and dad are gonna divorce
The podcast would've been entertaining if it was a full blown argument
yeah at least give us something
True
i am a self titled swiftie and the way she talks about her music just makes me think that the only reason she likes taylor is bc it's popular and it creates an opening where she can weasel herself into a community and hide from her mistakes. we dont want u here!!! a normal fan of taylor swift is not going to correct 30 to 31 or argue with someone who clearly disagrees
Exactly! She knows there's millions of Swifties and is holding on to a thread hoping she can get those fans to watch her! She's a pathetic woman who needs to leave the internet!
As someone who doesn’t like her music, if every swiftie was like this i would like you guys so much more
this podcast makes me feel like i’m third wheeling at lunch with the couple that argues all the time and they’ve forgotten i’m at the table
😂😂😂 facts!
She straight gaslights him so much in this. When she said “you are allowed to feel that way” and then the thing about him just taking interest in something thats important to her. It just made me cringe
This!
Honestly, this is what it seems to be happening to me. Eric is scared to express how he really feels because he is scared of Colleen and Colleen is holding back to not look nor sound like a bully. I may be wrong but that's the impression I got.
This conversation would definitely have gone a lot worse if they weren’t recording a podcast. That condescension behind Colleen’s suppressed annoyance is unbearable
@@AJ-kk9xi Exactly
Its constant passive aggressiveness on both sides
she remind me at the ex abusive bf of a friend
Girl get out of thet situation please TT
the way she unironically used the elitist “you just dont get it” card has me DYINGGG
It's the most average and mainstream thing to be elitist about, too!
Taylor Swift fans are crazy I’m not surprised that Colleen is one
Her wearing the cat shirt, is already making me feel EXTREMELY concerned....
She's Swiftie, now everything makes sense.
The irony of saying this with a persona 5 picture haha
For good and for worse
Oh I'm leaving a bookmark here there's gonna be some shit going down in this reply section
Don’t lump me in with her
Colleen: Swifites aren’t a cultist-hive mind!
Also her: *HOW DARE YOU INSULT TAYLOR*
@@Winnie589you chose this
What's bothering me the most is how they're holding that type of microphone up to their lips
A "personal journey" with an artist is actually just "your friends having to put up with you turning a new artist into your entire personality again"
Don't forget that she has a kid.. Hope the kid is safe.
Doesn’t she has twins?
She has 3 kids
Also I've bared witness to men leaving a funeral early to go watch a football game. We cannot limit being passionate about something (or in some cases obsessed) to just swifties. There is a lot of sexism when TS fans are discussed, namely by men, slut shaming Taylor, calling fans crazy, sh^tting on her music despite not listening to any of it (besides the ones that are unavoidably popular but do not represent her entire, diverse discography). And ofc some women with internal misyony will do the same. I am not saying if you don't like her that you're sexist, don't take me wrong. I saying the people who go out their way to make these comments - that hold no criticism or sometime no relevance at all to her music or diss any interests a lot of girls/women have, deeming their interests as inferior - is sexist. Which is unfortunately what I see a lot now. I know people don't like swifties because the craziest ones are always going to be the loudest. But lets not act like this is inclusive to just swifties. Many men will go fereal over sports to the point of aggression, even abuse rates spike during sports seasons. I'd say that was more unhinged that a swiftie innocently dressing up to go to her eras tour. But no one wants to speak on that do they...
Women do the same shit to us when it's about sports. Don't pretend this is a one way street.
I AGREE
Sometimes I watch couples talking and their chemistry is good I feel like I'm third wheeling them. Like, please get a room?
Watching these two is like, do you even like each other or???
These groomers are getting on my nerves
Suffer
@@Kevin_Kennelly who are you?
@@Kevin_Kennelly Everyone laugh at this loser
@@Didyouknowthatiexista fan most likely
🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️ This is like an awkward moment when you're hanging out with your friends that are the type of couples that always fight 😂😂 that's a no for me, even without her background
As a Swiftie, her takes are terrible lmao. And yeah, some Swifties are completely unhinged, that's just the truth
What really pisses me off is when people compare Taylor Swift to Bob Dylan. She's not Dylan - she's nowhere near him! Music history wasnÄ't altered by Taylor and it probably never will be.
I’m sorry, they’re saying what now?? 😮
The ukulele has been done. What's the divorce song instrument?
Harmonica.
the fuckin bagpipes are the divorce instruments, obviously. but ig you can't hear the song cause its so loud, so harmonica works fine
As someone with divorced parents, bagpipes fit the vibe more
Kazoo
@@SheepLiver Yeah, they are the divorce instrument, the second you start playing it, your wife signs the papers
"Oh my god, who...the hell...cares?! "
-Peter Griffin
People out here really think what they have to say is important enough to make a podcast.
Sharing experience. I kinda sympathise with her when he put down the album.
In my country, when I was young , we had a popular comedy duo for children. Then I watched the comedians with my grandfather in the room.
He came down hard on the silliness and stated you have to be stupid to enjoy this shit!
I was 6 and never appreciated the duo the same way.
Yeah… That sounds like it was not a good experience for you. As you said, it was a show for CHILDREN. Did your grandfather not understand that?
8:23 this part reminds of this one reddit story, where this woman's husband just suddenly had a massive interest in Destiny's Child, and his- practically- obsession with it just got so bad he was spending so much money on merch and it'd be all he'd ever talk about, and I think she was debating on divorce (I don't remember exactly, it's been a while since I've seen it)