I can't imagine how the old timers created dovetails without the invention of the Shawn Shim and your advanced practices. What a great piece of kit and the knowledge of how and why it works so well. Thanks Rob for continuing the search to find a better way.
“old timers” just practiced until they able to make an attractive strong joint. What I like about hand cut , is that the not so perfect dovetails and pins is the fact that they look “hand cut” and not with the use of a jig. Rob is a perfect example of what can be accomplished with practice.
It's so great to have the tools and techniques that allow a weekend warrior woodworker to create high quality dovetails. Even us older types can produce projects that are keepsake quality. Awesome!! HUGE Thanks to Rob, his long term persistence and commitment to quality (and to those who came before and alongside him)!
Great little gadget for those that aren’t able to make a decent dovetail joint or those with very deep pockets. I can’t afford the tidy sum of roughly $80 to improve my results. Woodworking is similar to many other hobbies, equipment prices have risen beyond the pay level of many consumers who believe that they must have this in order to have great results.
This tool is a great example of how you adapt your process and technique to help you and others produce the best results. I think it makes it so much easier to mark the pin board accurately and as result the fit of the joint is better. Great tool and innovation.! Thanks for making it and sharing it with all of us. Take care.
A really clear explanation and demonstration as to how and more importantly why the Shawn Shim will assist in producing extremely accurate dovetail cuts. Your comments on how the Earnest Joyce method was appropriately modified with this simple concept was the Eureka moment for me. Such a simple idea that will help so many woodworkers to produce quality dovetail joints. Thanks for the Eureka moment!!!
Rob, thank you for all your videos and all you do for veterans. You are a natural teacher and have helped me to want to undertake more extensive hand work. I just ordered and received your dovetail saw. I am diligently practicing plumb cuts and saw control and am anxious to try my first hand cut dovetails. I was especially impressed to come home from work one day last week to find a message from you thanking me for my business. That was a class act sir and greatly appreciated. I will be definitely purchasing more and hope to one day attend one of your classes. My hat is off to you sir!
Just this for making these a things, I had such a rough time doing your offset method right! And giving Shaun his due n cut says a lot about ya, nothing that ain't been said already with PHP, as a vet tks again!
This is a great advancement in dovetail cutting. When Rob first developed the offset method, I modified a jig designed by David Barron to hold the pin and tail board in alignment and incorporated the offset. It works well but has limitations in the width of the stock you can use. The yellow tape wall and the shim is just brilliant!
I loved the idea and the brass tool showed like a jewel (and it is)...congratulations for both...Shawn for the idea and you for see the potential and put it on the market and permit us to make dovetails as we have more skills than we real have...good tools make us better woodworkers...no doubt...
My Shawn Shim just arrived. Can't wait to try it out! Also the marking knife. I have been using my (Veritas) saw for this up to now, which is OK but the teeth don't go right to the end of the blade so my marks don't go right across. So there is a little bit of doubt each time I cut 😧. So with both these new tools I expect to get even better results. Thanks Rob for all your great tools and videos
@@RobCosmanWoodworking I probably will Rob, just waiting for the exchange rate to get a bit better. The Aussie is at 69 US cents at the moment, which makes North American goods pretty expensive down under. In the meantime, I cut the rest of the pins for my latest drawer today using the Shawn Shim and your marking knife (saw blade). It made it very fast and I am hoping even more accurate. By the way, I used your instructions for the bottom groove for the last drawer and it worked treat using a mini router. Previously I had an unsightly gap showing and now I don't! So, thanks very much for that as well.
When you are talking .003 or less of an inch that might be a little too critical. I feel pretty good when my dovetails match up and are tight within 1/32” varnish or poly will hide a lot of mistakes.. having a gauge is always a good place to start!
Take a look at volume 3 (joinery) of "The Woodworker" from Lost Art Press: it's a re-print of articles from the British magazine by the same name, originally edited by Charles Hayward. *BOTH* methods - using the saw to mark the pins from the tails, and offsetting the tails by the width of the saw kerf, are detailed in the chapter on dovetails. Given that the magazine ran from the 1930s into the early 60s, the concept clearly predates both Cosman and the cited work by Earnest Joyce. The 'Shawn Shim', however, is a brilliant adaptation of the method and with the addition of the 3/4 shim should allow owners of other brands of saws to more easily utilize the technique (y)
Great explanation. My Shawn Shim arrived the other day and I’m looking forward to trying it out . I think my next order will be your small dovetail saw. (I already have, and really like, your regular dovetail saw. )
Thanks Rob. That answered all my questions about the Shawn shim!!!!! What took you sooo long??? I know its not because you were waiting for a haircut!!!!! LOL!!!! JK.....I love your hair!!! oh crap..... that didnt come out (ooot) right!!!! LOL!!! great vid Rob!!
I use a japanese dovetail saw which is 13 thou tick, using the kerf moving method with a marking gauge has been a bit of a challenge, switched it for a filler gauge, nevertheless, the shawn shim method is an amazing one. Thanks for sharing :D
I can't imagine how the old timers created dovetails without the invention of the Shawn Shim and your advanced practices. What a great piece of kit and the knowledge of how and why it works so well. Thanks Rob for continuing the search to find a better way.
Years of practice!
Skills and talent!
“old timers” just practiced until they able to make an attractive strong joint. What I like about hand cut , is that the not so perfect dovetails and pins is the fact that they look “hand cut” and not with the use of a jig. Rob is a perfect example of what can be accomplished with practice.
It's so great to have the tools and techniques that allow a weekend warrior woodworker to create high quality dovetails. Even us older types can produce projects that are keepsake quality. Awesome!! HUGE Thanks to Rob, his long term persistence and commitment to quality (and to those who came before and alongside him)!
So happy we can help take your hobby to the next level
Love the Shawn Shim. Glad to see the smaller one. First level tools do make the job easier and the results better.
I like it that you give credit to other people for their ideas. It is a nice thing to do that a lot of people often forget...
Its the only way to roll
Great little gadget for those that aren’t able to make a decent dovetail joint or those with very deep pockets. I can’t afford the tidy sum of roughly $80 to improve my results. Woodworking is similar to many other hobbies, equipment prices have risen beyond the pay level of many consumers who believe that they must have this in order to have great results.
This tool is a great example of how you adapt your process and technique to help you and others produce the best results. I think it makes it so much easier to mark the pin board accurately and as result the fit of the joint is better. Great tool and innovation.! Thanks for making it and sharing it with all of us. Take care.
Thanks for trying out the shawn shim and commenting on your experience. Good luck in your woodworking
A really clear explanation and demonstration as to how and more importantly why the Shawn Shim will assist in producing extremely accurate dovetail cuts. Your comments on how the Earnest Joyce method was appropriately modified with this simple concept was the Eureka moment for me. Such a simple idea that will help so many woodworkers to produce quality dovetail joints. Thanks for the Eureka moment!!!
So glad you found the video helpful
Extremley good demonstration on how to use the Shawn shim. Best yet.
Thanks for commenting
Rob, thank you for all your videos and all you do for veterans. You are a natural teacher and have helped me to want to undertake more extensive hand work. I just ordered and received your dovetail saw. I am diligently practicing plumb cuts and saw control and am anxious to try my first hand cut dovetails. I was especially impressed to come home from work one day last week to find a message from you thanking me for my business. That was a class act sir and greatly appreciated. I will be definitely purchasing more and hope to one day attend one of your classes. My hat is off to you sir!
Remember open body stance and light grip. Soon you will be a pro
Thanks Rob for all that you and your family do.
Thanks for your support
Just this for making these a things, I had such a rough time doing your offset method right! And giving Shaun his due n cut says a lot about ya, nothing that ain't been said already with PHP, as a vet tks again!
Thanks for the comment
This is a great advancement in dovetail cutting. When Rob first developed the offset method, I modified a jig designed by David Barron to hold the pin and tail board in alignment and incorporated the offset. It works well but has limitations in the width of the stock you can use. The yellow tape wall and the shim is just brilliant!
I think they are both game changers in the world of dovetails
I loved the idea and the brass tool showed like a jewel (and it is)...congratulations for both...Shawn for the idea and you for see the potential and put it on the market and permit us to make dovetails as we have more skills than we real have...good tools make us better woodworkers...no doubt...
Better tools makes woodworking tons easier
My Shawn Shim just arrived. Can't wait to try it out! Also the marking knife. I have been using my (Veritas) saw for this up to now, which is OK but the teeth don't go right to the end of the blade so my marks don't go right across. So there is a little bit of doubt each time I cut 😧. So with both these new tools I expect to get even better results.
Thanks Rob for all your great tools and videos
May I be so bold as to suggest you need one of my saws.
@@RobCosmanWoodworking I probably will Rob, just waiting for the exchange rate to get a bit better. The Aussie is at 69 US cents at the moment, which makes North American goods pretty expensive down under. In the meantime, I cut the rest of the pins for my latest drawer today using the Shawn Shim and your marking knife (saw blade). It made it very fast and I am hoping even more accurate. By the way, I used your instructions for the bottom groove for the last drawer and it worked treat using a mini router. Previously I had an unsightly gap showing and now I don't! So, thanks very much for that as well.
Good idea, Matt.
Who is Matt?
Thanks
Just a thought. Would be worth putting a small punch mark or similar next to the correct size for you saw curfs. Next to the 24 and 19.
I have both of the Shawn Shims, but I’m still using my marking gauge to do the job. I have to give the Shims a try!!! Great Video Rob!
Try it you will love it, but the marking gauge works too
Need to add these to my next order. :)
Silly question I know but what’s the best and accurate way of measuring the saw kerf thickness.
Rob has that Michael Landen look going these days
He could build that stairway.
When you are talking .003 or less of an inch that might be a little too critical. I feel pretty good when my dovetails match up and are tight within 1/32” varnish or poly will hide a lot of mistakes..
having a gauge is always a good place to start!
Take a look at volume 3 (joinery) of "The Woodworker" from Lost Art Press: it's a re-print of articles from the British magazine by the same name, originally edited by Charles Hayward. *BOTH* methods - using the saw to mark the pins from the tails, and offsetting the tails by the width of the saw kerf, are detailed in the chapter on dovetails. Given that the magazine ran from the 1930s into the early 60s, the concept clearly predates both Cosman and the cited work by Earnest Joyce.
The 'Shawn Shim', however, is a brilliant adaptation of the method and with the addition of the 3/4 shim should allow owners of other brands of saws to more easily utilize the technique (y)
Dude you look like you feel out of the 80’s lol I was blasted back in time to my school days sporting that hair
Great explanation. My Shawn Shim arrived the other day and I’m looking forward to trying it out . I think my next order will be your small dovetail saw. (I already have, and really like, your regular dovetail saw. )
The small dovetail saw is great for smaller dovetail
Time to update the subscribe and ring the bell intro. Need the new longer hair in it lol
I am working on it!
love this toool. saving up for on right now. i actually mad my own several years ag0 but it will be nice to have one that is prfect
Its worth the wait
Thanks Rob. That answered all my questions about the Shawn shim!!!!! What took you sooo long??? I know its not because you were waiting for a haircut!!!!! LOL!!!! JK.....I love your hair!!! oh crap..... that didnt come out (ooot) right!!!! LOL!!! great vid Rob!!
I had to wait for my hair to grow out
I use a japanese dovetail saw which is 13 thou tick, using the kerf moving method with a marking gauge has been a bit of a challenge, switched it for a filler gauge, nevertheless, the shawn shim method is an amazing one. Thanks for sharing :D
Thanks for watching and commenting
I wish I don’t need this but I do and it works
I saw Rob use an earlier version of the Shawn Shim made out of aluminum instead of brass. Any reason why the aluminum version is no longer available?
That was in the prototype phase, the aluminum was just too light.
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You could have called this vid the "Shawn Shim Redemption".
Good one!
Why do you have the danish flag on the wall? 😁
Casper, wounded Vet from Denmark, attended our last PHP class. Excellent craftsman!