I need your help to compare Via Ferrata danger and difficulty to Rock Climbing
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- If you are a pasisonate and experienced rock climber doing well on 7c rock climbing routes, if you are around Europe and willing to show on the camera and take part to a healty debate, will you consider joining me in a rock climbing and Via Ferrata debate that includes climbing both rock climbing and Via Ferrata routes, gathering data and making detailed assesments to then get into a debate on which one is what?
#jetsetyourself #viaferrata #klettersteig
I am a 6a+ climber so clearly below the requirements, but I also did a C/D and D/E via ferrata.
In terms of danger - via ferrata is definitely more dangerous then sport climbing except trad climbing (and maybe on par with slab climbing).
In terms of difficulty I think it is incorrect to compare the two since via ferrata is more about endurance then crimping small holds. But I would say D ferrata is easier then 6a+.
I am pretty confident that anyone who can climb 6b would be able to do any E via ferrata.
Don't be so harsh with yourself. You are up to requirements 😂
If you want to chat more about it and see if it can go somewhere will you please send me an email to JetSetYourself Gmail?
Agree completely on that. I would compare it like this: If during a multi pitch climb I was only secured the same way as on a via ferrata, I would not be comfortable to climbing higher than a 4. At the same time I'm comfortable on D/E via ferrata
Great idea. But you should divide rock climbing into sport and trad climbing for this. Trad climbing is way more dangerous. In sandstone without metal rock protection even more. There are a lot of no fall zones in saxon or czech sandstone because of that.
Agree here, though you could go even further. Free solo and deep water solo is probably the most dangerous, but honestly, jumping into such debats just doesn't make sense. It's like iPhone vs. Android, an endless debate. Both have their own weaknesses and strengths. So does rock climbers and via ferrata climbers. And to be super honest, I mean even bouldering in the gym, you make one wrong fall, hit your head on a volume and there's that. I don't want to scare people away of course, but all forms of rock climbing is dangerous and accidents happen. End of story.
I currently don't climb 7cs since I only recently (half a year ago, thx covid... back up to 6bs in lead, if im translating to the FR scale (i assume that's the one you're using) correctly) restarted rock climbing and am still building up my strength. So I don't think i can help you with that request. (As interesting as it might be^^)
I think the intention is good, but I question to some degree how comparable they are in the first place. It's already hard enough to compare 2 climbing routes of the "same grade," especially regionally. For example, the town I live in grades an entire grade lower than a town 60km away (completely ignoring the sheer amount of climbing scales and how they dont really translate into each other). If I go to the mountains, the grades are yet again different. I would imagine via ferrata has the same issue. On top of that, some routes "suit" a particular style. So someone that can usually climb a 7 may struggle on a 6 if the style just doesn't suit theirs.
Out of curiosity, are you an experienced rock climber? Cause 7c is very advanced.
We can at any time plan a climb together. To answer your question, I was suggesting a 7c climber possibly because as you say it means advanced climber and we want the opinion of such a climber, right? Of course, hard to get such an advanced climber to even considering doing it, I imagine. Maybe I'm wrong.
@@JetSetYourself Might be fun. Where are you based?
@voidedname unfortunately London
@@JetSetYourself oh, that's a bit far for me (munich area), but if you happen to travel through europe, maybe something could be arranged.
I don't think you can compare sport climbing grades to VF grades as they are 2 different sports, indoors is much safer and can be easier due to the short routes, but also harder at high difficulty level s - poor holds, overhangs, etc. outdoor rock climbing at lower levels like 5a to 5c might be comparable to D-E VF routes but it's hard to say. A roped fall with a good belayer will be much safer than even a short VF fall
We should definitely climb together this reminder of the summer
@@JetSetYourself Yes that would be nice although I have not practiced above level D much recently
Let's stick to C/D. No need to exagerate. Remember where you were last year. Let's not get back there.