If you’re interested in who the notable Karateka’s are, I’ve listed; Their names, their rank in their respective Karate styles, some of their achievements, and the time stamp of when they first appear in the video within the description!
Dude, same! I started off in karate when I was younger and got my blackbelt. Then I went off to dabble in Judo, BJJ, Muay Thai, etc. But now after more than a decade later, I find myself returning to karate. There's just something deeply rewarding about it. Osu!
@@tacticaltemplar875 The fact they give out black belts so easily especially to kids at a younger age already shows you a problem with karate. Attaining a black belt should at least take 15 to 20 years of training. too many mcodjos have taken over karate
@MilkANDMagic I think 15-20 years for a blackbelt is a bit much, but I agree that karate has been largely weakened. Look- I love karate, but I'll be the first to admit how hard it is to find a solid karate school.
@@tacticaltemplar875 No, thats the minimum at least it was in bjj before. Making it take that long really gives value to black belt rankings. Thats not even the longest time it would take to get a belt in old school bjj. There are guys who will literally be training their whole lives and still never attain a red belt. Karate needs to adopt that mentaility to be taken seriously and actually do full contact fighting instead of these touch point stuff
Its more than clear that karate fundamentals are solid for real fighting. Its all a matter of how one trains. If all you do is Katas, and never do live sparring, you wont be able to apply any skills doing real fights. If all you do is point fighting, its gonna be hard to do full contact at first. But there are more than enough examples (as shown very well in this video) of guys who were able to make the transition into full contact fighting sports, and use their karate skills to completely clean house. Of course their styles had to be adjusted for the new sport.
No, it's not "clear" you fool: put the world's GREATEST karate guy up against an amateur boxer that won a golden gloves tournament & the karate guy never wins; 0% these clips are of mma, where striking is AWFUL! Get the greatest karateka ever to live to go against a Thai fighter that defended a stadium championship for a single year LOL = dead karate guy.
@@afonsomendes6907 ever heard of Roy Jones Jr.? Ever head of Diselnoi? Wanna bet on who would win a fight between ANY pro boxer or muay Thai fighter vs "wonderboy"? LOL
Karate is not useless, the problem with it is that so many people improvised themselves as the new Chuck Norris, pretending to know everything about karate. Karate is a solid valid martial art, very useful in many situations; you just have to train hard and be good at it. Karate is not something that someone uses just to gain fame and crowd cheering, unless you want to apply it in MMA, it's called the way of the empty hand because you fill it with knowledge you gain from all of your fights. I repeat, karate is not useless, people just have to know when and how to apply it in a real-life situation (if something happens).
"Way of the empty hand" is a myth. Well, actually it's a missinterpritation by the Japanese. It also means "chinese hand". Since okinawa was a trade island, it's martial arts were influenced by a bunch of different cultures and other martial arts. One of the biggest ones were chinese. So, in short, karate can be misread as "Open hand" when it's really ment to mean "Chinese hand". Just a small thing.
People literally need to just be doing full contact sparring in karate. I dunno why all these competions are a bunch of point taps. Only exception is kyokoshin
Karate is so underrated as well as Tae Kwon Do, Judo, Aikido, and Tang Soo Do it’s so underrated. I remember back in high school when I did Muay Thai and kickboxing i was almost as equally as skilled as this kid who was a year older and he does TKD I can only win like 5/10 rounds with him at best
I'm training in boxing and Muay Thai and even i can tell you karate is pretty solid. Even if one weren't to consider the skills gained from karate (which are impressive) the strength and conditioning of seasoned and dedicated karate practitioners is impressive
Karate would be great if they just had punches to the face, but it's such an important part of fighting. Some of them never overcome boxing. I still definitely respect it though.
Though I'm mainly a kung fu practitioner - I have a love & respect for karate and those who train it, I always enjoy sparring and training with them. 👊🥋
Karate is very effective when you master the fundaments. You can apply all Karate fundaments in Full contact fighting, because those fundaments actually were adapted for Point fighting, but when you put those same fundaments in Full contact enviorenment is when the true Karate raises.
Thanks for putting Francisco Filho, our brazillian samurai in the video, It makes me sad most people don't know his story. He was the first or one of the first foreigners to take on hyakunin kumite, the 100 man kumite. Another great Brazilian Karateka who is still alive and teaching is Glaube Feitosa.
I love the quote at the end about getting your black belt. I agree with it. I got my black belt in Kajukenbo, which incorporates a lot from Karate and my instructor said something similar to the quote.
As a karate black belt and instructor I will, however, honestly and easily admit 99% of people who practices will not be able to survive getting lost in the subway. Full contact practitioners are a special breed
Kyoji Horiguchi with his karate punch techniques n footwork destroyed many opponents. That karate chambering punches also does well when throwing straight punches. Like how Kyoji does it
Andrew Tate fought in Kickboxing which was derived from Karate and yet claiming Karate doesnt work is ignorant at best. American Kickboxing or Dutch Kickboxing exist because of Karate, period.
People say karate isn’t effective yet wonder boy would destroy many people. Also many aspects of karate can be implemented into other styles, for example mcgregor fought in a karate stance. Not only that but in my Muay Thai gym we learn karate kicks as well as taekwondo kicks, which I think is great, mixing different martial arts together is great.
People say it is not effective because they think that in karate we don’t do contact yet in this edit well we show them how wrong they are. Karate is one of the best martial arts if not the best
People: Karate is useless. Me: Bruh. Just watch Fighter of the Wind. It based on a true story of Mas Oyama, the founder of Kyokushin Karate who spent training in the wilderness in the mountains, breaking some stones, logs, woods, etc. despite his constant pain and injuries he suffered. He went on to fight numerous Japanese fighters and masters that he became one of the best fighters not just in Karate but the martial arts history.
Karate is one of the most efficient and down-to-earth martial arts ever existed... BUT... It is thought wrong. It's made into soft sport-style and this way it looses it's... claw. Even kyoukushin left punches to the head behing which is ridiculous. Okinawan style Karate was THE MMA of ancient times. It took what's working and threw away what wasn't. Lyoto Machida, Wonderboy, GSP, Bass Rutten took Karate to the level it should look and be thought right now.
Ye man totally agree. I’m a fan of karate, but not of this soft karate philosophy. When a karate master lies to you, that you’re able to defend yourself it just destroys what karate represents. Those techniques are unique and wonderboy shows them how it’s done.
Have being in a lot of "real fights" down in Brazil when I was younger, and 99% of "real fights" are some drunk dude and his friends that think you are looking weird to a girl he had no balls to go and talk to her or somebody trying to impress somebody else. Real martial artist don't get involved in random street fights unless he is an idiot. You never know if some friends will decide to jump in or if any of them have a knife. If you take your martial art with any level of seriousness your chances against such environment are as good as any if you are facing common folk. What most traditional martial arts these days lacks are intense work out routines like the ones we see in Muay Thai or boxing.
I mean it depends how your dojo trains, spars and what type of karate they practice. Tate, I assume, is talking about your typical McDojo where belts are handed out for no reason and the students can't defend themselves properly because of lack of or too light sparring. To be honest, I think that almost all martial arts are effective at their base value, but some are not practiced properly, bastardising them and giving them a reputation for not being combat effective, and karate is one of them. But if you go to a proper karate dojo, then yes it will be combat effective.
Kyokushin is, or used to be back when I did it, bare knuckle, rules are that hands should not have contact with the face. Earlier shotokan competition used to be bare knuckle but rules are that you should punch with control (contact is allowed, but not excessive contact). But the important part is the training is done with no gloves on mind.
The art isnt the problem it's people who either weren't well trained or didnt apply it effectively, but imo MMA fighters could benefit from learning these traditional arts bc some elements of them make them very effective in stand up
@@LIONTAMER3DUnfortunately, the coach of the champions can’t be the champion himself. Why if it works? It’s the person makes it work, not the arts themselves.
To be fair almost all of the karate sparring clips are from kyokushin while the point sparring at the beginning was Shotokan kumite, I think that’s more of a question of style rather than the “modern times”, although it is to an extent
Not a question of style, but a question of the ruleset they are competing. You see Lyoto and Chinzo Machida, Horiguchi, people in Karate Combat, Weber Almeida, etc using Shotokan in a different competition ruleset and they do just fine. The ruleset of the competition is what define how the fight will look like.
Great vid...better in beginning showing ufc dojo & street back to back..but BRUH HOLD QUOTES LONG ENOUGH TO PAUSE (If not read w/out needing to pause). Thanks!
Tate said it right. This video don't shows karate skills in real life fighting situations, but it shows kickboxing mentality with some karate integrated techniques. Kickboxing is effective 100% in real fighting. Karate techniques are mostly effective, but the mentality is obsolete. Real life fighting requires a most practical type of mentality.
Have being in a lot of "real fights" down in Brazil when I was younger, and 99% of "real fights" are some drunk dude and his friends that think you are looking weird to a girl he had no balls to go and talk to her or somebody trying to impress somebody else. Real martial artist don't get involved in random street fights unless he is an idiot. You never know if some friends will decide to jump in or if any of them have a knife. If you take your martial art with any level of seriousness your chances against such environment are as good as any if you are facing common folk. What most traditional martial arts these days lacks are intense work out routines like the ones we see in Muay Thai or boxing.
@@LIONTAMER3DThe art won’t work itself. No arts are working without person & that’s why just have one winner. Can everyone win with the same style of arts? Even the coach of the champion cannot be a champion.
People need to understand, that fundamentally, most combat systems are useless or were useful for a time at least. This whole gatekeeping and comparing arts battle is dumb and pointless, especially in MMA where the point is to to appreciate and take from all arts.
Come on...all can agree...no martial arts can be deemed useless, ineffective, waste or a gimmick. Eah martial arts came with a purpose in mind and fighting irl like a street fight requires to apply the fundamentals and principles, along with some combos and strategy. All must respect all martials arts, they dont teach to fight...they have taught to defend and moreover the way to live
Yall honestly just need to train in full contact sparring, I dunno why karatekas so obsessed with this point tapping stuff in tournaments and only doing katas instead of actual full contact sparring, it makes zero sense. Yes there are a few legit karate fighters, like stephen thompshon, horiguchi and andy hug bet theres so few of them. If you want the martial art to actually succeed then the rules for competition should be just lke how it is in boxing or muay thai. Real FULL CONTACT fighting. I literally foguht a black belt karateka in my muay thai debut and it was like fighting someone whos never been trained.
Kick boxing was born from the clash between karate and muay thai in 1950s which karate is lost. Karate's not perfect but Karateka know that and make it shine
Actually, Kyokushin did very well against Muay Thai back in the day. only one of the three karateka lost. That dude picked up Muay Thai and I believe that dude helped influence Dutch Kickboxing. A lot of Kyokushin dudes picked up some Muay Thai as they definitely saw advantages.
Oh sorry, to clear some things up I’m referring to Muay Thai solely in the context of its modern Combat Sport form because of how much the art has changed over the centuries.
I think it’s mostly because it’s in the pantheon of “what works” in MMA. At least in western/English speaking discourse, anything that so much as makes a small appearance in MMA “must” be modern. Even with examples like Lyoto Machida’s Karate I’ve heard people call it “modernized” karate. It’s pretty silly and mostly just people trying to arbitrarily categorize things to fit their views on martial arts. Personally, I’ve got no issues with anything that has good training habit-traditional or otherwise. But a lot of people online take traditional to be an outright bad word in the context of martial arts. Because Muay Thai is successful, it therefore can’t be “traditional” by that logic… It’s, again, dumb. Personally, I do consider it a traditional martial art. I know it’s developed a lot over the years, but I again think that comes from a misnomer that traditional martial arts don’t change. The distinction between traditional/modern is mostly pretty useless and arbitrary, imo. Good training practices versus bad training practices is probably a much better way to categorize if people feel they have to.
kyokushin enshin and other derivates of kyokushin are great for fighting. Shotokan is good, before matches were better than this shitty olympic ones... I am happy there is Karate combat tho, at least they can test themselves even more. To me if you use your style,fighting sport or martial arts well, almost everything is good.
If you’re interested in who the notable Karateka’s are, I’ve listed; Their names, their rank in their respective Karate styles, some of their achievements, and the time stamp of when they first appear in the video within the description!
screw the forms & katas,especially when it's all about that full-contact,hard hitting goodness...TO THE EXTREME 👍
I trained Judo, Jiu Jitsu, Boxing but doesn't exist a Martial Arts on this planet that fascinates me like Karate I love this art Oss.
Dude, same! I started off in karate when I was younger and got my blackbelt. Then I went off to dabble in Judo, BJJ, Muay Thai, etc. But now after more than a decade later, I find myself returning to karate. There's just something deeply rewarding about it. Osu!
@@tacticaltemplar875 The fact they give out black belts so easily especially to kids at a younger age already shows you a problem with karate. Attaining a black belt should at least take 15 to 20 years of training. too many mcodjos have taken over karate
If u haven't, I highly recommend u find the chance to attend a Legit Kyokushin Karate dojo. Yr current training has u fit for it💪💪
@MilkANDMagic I think 15-20 years for a blackbelt is a bit much, but I agree that karate has been largely weakened. Look- I love karate, but I'll be the first to admit how hard it is to find a solid karate school.
@@tacticaltemplar875 No, thats the minimum at least it was in bjj before. Making it take that long really gives value to black belt rankings. Thats not even the longest time it would take to get a belt in old school bjj. There are guys who will literally be training their whole lives and still never attain a red belt. Karate needs to adopt that mentaility to be taken seriously and actually do full contact fighting instead of these touch point stuff
Its more than clear that karate fundamentals are solid for real fighting. Its all a matter of how one trains. If all you do is Katas, and never do live sparring, you wont be able to apply any skills doing real fights. If all you do is point fighting, its gonna be hard to do full contact at first. But there are more than enough examples (as shown very well in this video) of guys who were able to make the transition into full contact fighting sports, and use their karate skills to completely clean house. Of course their styles had to be adjusted for the new sport.
well said!
No, it's not "clear" you fool: put the world's GREATEST karate guy up against an amateur boxer that won a golden gloves tournament & the karate guy never wins; 0% these clips are of mma, where striking is AWFUL! Get the greatest karateka ever to live to go against a Thai fighter that defended a stadium championship for a single year LOL = dead karate guy.
@@LIONTAMER3D ever heard of wonderboy? xD his career and fighting style makes it more than clear that karate can work... fool xD
@@afonsomendes6907 ever heard of Roy Jones Jr.? Ever head of Diselnoi? Wanna bet on who would win a fight between ANY pro boxer or muay Thai fighter vs "wonderboy"? LOL
@@LIONTAMER3D wonderboy would whoop roy jones in his prime xD
"the ultimate aim of karate lies not in victory or defeat , but in the perfection of character of its participants"
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Karate is not useless, the problem with it is that so many people improvised themselves as the new Chuck Norris, pretending to know everything about karate. Karate is a solid valid martial art, very useful in many situations; you just have to train hard and be good at it. Karate is not something that someone uses just to gain fame and crowd cheering, unless you want to apply it in MMA, it's called the way of the empty hand because you fill it with knowledge you gain from all of your fights. I repeat, karate is not useless, people just have to know when and how to apply it in a real-life situation (if something happens).
"Way of the empty hand" is a myth. Well, actually it's a missinterpritation by the Japanese. It also means "chinese hand". Since okinawa was a trade island, it's martial arts were influenced by a bunch of different cultures and other martial arts. One of the biggest ones were chinese. So, in short, karate can be misread as "Open hand" when it's really ment to mean "Chinese hand". Just a small thing.
@@megahunter2981 if you say so. My point was that karate isn't useless but, anyway...🤷
People literally need to just be doing full contact sparring in karate. I dunno why all these competions are a bunch of point taps. Only exception is kyokoshin
@@MilkANDMagic that is sports karate, not the traditional one
@@Raoulelcuervo If sports karate the only one doing full contact fighting then its the best type of karate.
Karate is so underrated as well as Tae Kwon Do, Judo, Aikido, and Tang Soo Do it’s so underrated. I remember back in high school when I did Muay Thai and kickboxing i was almost as equally as skilled as this kid who was a year older and he does TKD I can only win like 5/10 rounds with him at best
I'd agree with all of that except Aikido, I think Aikido had earned its reputation
Aikido is a scam.
If anything Aikido is overrated lmao
I'm training in boxing and Muay Thai and even i can tell you karate is pretty solid. Even if one weren't to consider the skills gained from karate (which are impressive) the strength and conditioning of seasoned and dedicated karate practitioners is impressive
Karate would be great if they just had punches to the face, but it's such an important part of fighting. Some of them never overcome boxing. I still definitely respect it though.
Finally, feeling great after inspiring people to spread awareness about karate but create Little Dark Age Motivation,
Keep going mate 🙌
What I love is that Karate feels like a lost ancien art and if you dedicate yourself seriously you can seriously kick asses.
0:41 I studies this move and applied it in a tournament. Everyone was shocked.
How do you participâtes y’a does tournament i m à karatéka and i soule fight without thé systèms of point classic
Oh yeah, I see Hiroki Akimoto there. One of my fave ONE Kickboxers, very nice👍
Though I'm mainly a kung fu practitioner - I have a love & respect for karate and those who train it, I always enjoy sparring and training with them. 👊🥋
Karate is very effective when you master the fundaments. You can apply all Karate fundaments in Full contact fighting, because those fundaments actually were adapted for Point fighting, but when you put those same fundaments in Full contact enviorenment is when the true Karate raises.
Andy Hug, Lechi Kurbanov so many other legends OSU 🥋
one of the best karate edits i have ever seen! Keep it up bro
Thanks for putting Francisco Filho, our brazillian samurai in the video, It makes me sad most people don't know his story. He was the first or one of the first foreigners to take on hyakunin kumite, the 100 man kumite. Another great Brazilian Karateka who is still alive and teaching is Glaube Feitosa.
Fora o Lyoto Machida
I love the quote at the end about getting your black belt. I agree with it. I got my black belt in Kajukenbo, which incorporates a lot from Karate and my instructor said something similar to the quote.
I’m such a sucker for traditional martial arts
just like me fr
It’s cool to be different
As a karate black belt and instructor I will, however, honestly and easily admit 99% of people who practices will not be able to survive getting lost in the subway. Full contact practitioners are a special breed
RIP Andy Hug.
watching this an hour before my tournament
Weird coming from Tate who tends to use karate style kicks when he used to fight
He talking about mc dojos, fake dojo that dont teach how to fight, but how to win the Olympics
Not weird, morons are morons
i think he is critcizing the fake gurus not the real style
karate build our whole body as one wepon 🖤🔥 fingers n toes r arrows arms n legs r iron 🖤
Thank you for making this.
Kyoji Horiguchi with his karate punch techniques n footwork destroyed many opponents. That karate chambering punches also does well when throwing straight punches. Like how Kyoji does it
Andrew Tate fought in Kickboxing which was derived from Karate and yet claiming Karate doesnt work is ignorant at best. American Kickboxing or Dutch Kickboxing exist because of Karate, period.
People say karate isn’t effective yet wonder boy would destroy many people. Also many aspects of karate can be implemented into other styles, for example mcgregor fought in a karate stance. Not only that but in my Muay Thai gym we learn karate kicks as well as taekwondo kicks, which I think is great, mixing different martial arts together is great.
People say it is not effective because they think that in karate we don’t do contact yet in this edit well we show them how wrong they are. Karate is one of the best martial arts if not the best
non of these guys wouldve have been knocked down if they just kept their hands up
is what i would say if i have never fought.
Karate can be effective it just takes its sweet ass time
The time it takes to master a martial art depends on the practitioner not the style.
Andrew Tate was talking about in the clip about mcDojos
Lyoto Machida oss 👊
Bro casually drops the best karate montage then leaves
sounds about right lol
Thank you for this!
People: Karate is useless.
Me: Bruh. Just watch Fighter of the Wind. It based on a true story of Mas Oyama, the founder of Kyokushin Karate who spent training in the wilderness in the mountains, breaking some stones, logs, woods, etc. despite his constant pain and injuries he suffered. He went on to fight numerous Japanese fighters and masters that he became one of the best fighters not just in Karate but the martial arts history.
He also punched through a car door.
Best karate edit
OSU NO SEISHIN!!! Karate for life! All styles, all one!
1LoveYall!
Thankfully we have karate combat
glad to see a fellow karate combat fan!!
Mediocre kickboxing
@@KingSquirtle999 bs
Every martial art has their strong and weak point. It's all depend from you: "Take what you like, cut of the unless and make your own"
Big w for putting Akimoto there
Karate is one of the most efficient and down-to-earth martial arts ever existed... BUT... It is thought wrong. It's made into soft sport-style and this way it looses it's... claw. Even kyoukushin left punches to the head behing which is ridiculous. Okinawan style Karate was THE MMA of ancient times. It took what's working and threw away what wasn't.
Lyoto Machida, Wonderboy, GSP, Bass Rutten took Karate to the level it should look and be thought right now.
Ye man totally agree. I’m a fan of karate, but not of this soft karate philosophy. When a karate master lies to you, that you’re able to defend yourself it just destroys what karate represents. Those techniques are unique and wonderboy shows them how it’s done.
Next will be kyoji Horiguchi, Hiroki Akimoto and Tenshin who will prove karate works.
great video, but im surprised you didn't show the 🐐 gsp
george is actually one of my favorite fighters! I really wanted to add him but i ended up not fitting him in.
McDojos ruined our reputation man.
the lower quality the video the stronger the fighters
MMA and Muay Thai is the only form of fighting that actually is effective and works on real fights
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Almost every martial art works. Some just take longer to build the skills you need for a real fight like Karate and Taekwondo
@@kermit1211 😕you got a point
Have being in a lot of "real fights" down in Brazil when I was younger, and 99% of "real fights" are some drunk dude and his friends that think you are looking weird to a girl he had no balls to go and talk to her or somebody trying to impress somebody else. Real martial artist don't get involved in random street fights unless he is an idiot. You never know if some friends will decide to jump in or if any of them have a knife. If you take your martial art with any level of seriousness your chances against such environment are as good as any if you are facing common folk. What most traditional martial arts these days lacks are intense work out routines like the ones we see in Muay Thai or boxing.
@@mrgsudo Thanks for the tip bro
I mean it depends how your dojo trains, spars and what type of karate they practice. Tate, I assume, is talking about your typical McDojo where belts are handed out for no reason and the students can't defend themselves properly because of lack of or too light sparring. To be honest, I think that almost all martial arts are effective at their base value, but some are not practiced properly, bastardising them and giving them a reputation for not being combat effective, and karate is one of them. But if you go to a proper karate dojo, then yes it will be combat effective.
Can't forget about Gsp too
Someone correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t karate built around a bare knuckle type of combat?
Kyokushin is, or used to be back when I did it, bare knuckle, rules are that hands should not have contact with the face. Earlier shotokan competition used to be bare knuckle but rules are that you should punch with control (contact is allowed, but not excessive contact). But the important part is the training is done with no gloves on mind.
Its odd to not include Semmy Schilt, even if his techniques aren't the flashiest thing around.
Can anyone tell me the original vid where the white shirted guy landed a solid roundhouse to the blue shirted guy in the streets?
The art isnt the problem it's people who either weren't well trained or didnt apply it effectively, but imo MMA fighters could benefit from learning these traditional arts bc some elements of them make them very effective in stand up
Thanks for the new entertainment
Let them come to Kyokushin Karate's kumite sessions. We will see how they will feel after the class. Osu!
Those Gracie’s in the early 90s was running through all these types
Oh yes, Shihan Francisco Filho 😌
0:16 Jhonny Lawrence??
I think what Andrew Tate mean in the beginning is the McDojos, not the real Dojos.
You missed GSP and Uriah hall among many others
Bro I proved karate works you just gotta be good at itb
No, it doesn't work lol: boxing & muay Thai work.
@@LIONTAMER3D Muay thai is overrated and I’ve used karate in a fight
Boxing and Krav Maga I’ve used
@@LIONTAMER3DUnfortunately, the coach of the champions can’t be the champion himself. Why if it works? It’s the person makes it work, not the arts themselves.
@@TheAnsonyscexactly thank you
To be fair almost all of the karate sparring clips are from kyokushin while the point sparring at the beginning was Shotokan kumite, I think that’s more of a question of style rather than the “modern times”, although it is to an extent
Not a question of style, but a question of the ruleset they are competing. You see Lyoto and Chinzo Machida, Horiguchi, people in Karate Combat, Weber Almeida, etc using Shotokan in a different competition ruleset and they do just fine. The ruleset of the competition is what define how the fight will look like.
Great vid...better in beginning showing ufc dojo & street back to back..but BRUH HOLD QUOTES LONG ENOUGH TO PAUSE (If not read w/out needing to pause). Thanks!
1:23 name of the photo please
anytime anywhere . boxer will always destroy karate
"Depends on the practioner"
wrong
ppl who says karate is useless clearly don't know about the existence of karate kyokushin
Karatê goju Ryu minha vida minha paixão
Tate said it right. This video don't shows karate skills in real life fighting situations, but it shows kickboxing mentality with some karate integrated techniques. Kickboxing is effective 100% in real fighting. Karate techniques are mostly effective, but the mentality is obsolete. Real life fighting requires a most practical type of mentality.
Kickboxing literally evolved from Karate (along with Muay Thai and a little bit of Savate)
@@haikazumadesu36 you are right, but for street fights, the evolved one (kickboxing) is now better than the sources themselves.
Have being in a lot of "real fights" down in Brazil when I was younger, and 99% of "real fights" are some drunk dude and his friends that think you are looking weird to a girl he had no balls to go and talk to her or somebody trying to impress somebody else. Real martial artist don't get involved in random street fights unless he is an idiot. You never know if some friends will decide to jump in or if any of them have a knife. If you take your martial art with any level of seriousness your chances against such environment are as good as any if you are facing common folk. What most traditional martial arts these days lacks are intense work out routines like the ones we see in Muay Thai or boxing.
I do karate kyokushin and I have the luck that my sensei is the tezuka of spain
In 2008 he was second in the champion of the world of kyokushinkay
Its about the fighter not about the martial art
No, it's the art
@@LIONTAMER3DThe art won’t work itself. No arts are working without person & that’s why just have one winner. Can everyone win with the same style of arts? Even the coach of the champion cannot be a champion.
Bro I do Okinawan kenpo and jjj and bjj and just started Krav Maga
no gsp clips?
it looks like they can fight to me.
Karate is the most effective and realistic martial arts form all asian martial arts that's my opinion
That’s very close to be a fact
I think Tate was talking about point sparring even tho sometimes it does have Knockouts they get mauled by Full contact karate and all others
Kyokushin killers ☠️
Muay Thai: Karate sucks, we are the best!
Also Muay Thai: Takes our kicks and passes them off as being Muay Thai.
0_o
yeah akimoto is my idol
The thing is that tate is talking abt Mcdojo’s :)))
Ossu ❤❤
0:13-0:17 damn
Bro finally posted again lol 💀 do you use an editing app?
i just used iMovie lol
@@AnonymousPinoyKarateka bro how does that app even work idgi 💀
People need to understand, that fundamentally, most combat systems are useless or were useful for a time at least. This whole gatekeeping and comparing arts battle is dumb and pointless, especially in MMA where the point is to to appreciate and take from all arts.
bro is probably doing sports karate
Come on...all can agree...no martial arts can be deemed useless, ineffective, waste or a gimmick. Eah martial arts came with a purpose in mind and fighting irl like a street fight requires to apply the fundamentals and principles, along with some combos and strategy. All must respect all martials arts, they dont teach to fight...they have taught to defend and moreover the way to live
I need full video please 0:24 🙏
here it is:
ua-cam.com/video/EZ7YRewmbFg/v-deo.html
Yall honestly just need to train in full contact sparring, I dunno why karatekas so obsessed with this point tapping stuff in tournaments and only doing katas instead of actual full contact sparring, it makes zero sense. Yes there are a few legit karate fighters, like stephen thompshon, horiguchi and andy hug bet theres so few of them. If you want the martial art to actually succeed then the rules for competition should be just lke how it is in boxing or muay thai. Real FULL CONTACT fighting. I literally foguht a black belt karateka in my muay thai debut and it was like fighting someone whos never been trained.
Karate=knockout
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show bare knuckle karate where punches knock-out an opponent. not kicking.
I did, at both 0:23 and 1:39
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Kick boxing was born from the clash between karate and muay thai in 1950s which karate is lost. Karate's not perfect but Karateka know that and make it shine
Actually, Kyokushin did very well against Muay Thai back in the day. only one of the three karateka lost. That dude picked up Muay Thai and I believe that dude helped influence Dutch Kickboxing.
A lot of Kyokushin dudes picked up some Muay Thai as they definitely saw advantages.
@Abinanta Maheswara The power roundhouse kick in karate was modify from muay thai inspiration
@Abinanta Maheswara I don't know about western kick boxing, maybe it's from french samba + boxing
Karate has been hated for too long now.
Why isn't Muay Thai considered a traditional martial art? Tradition isn't exclusive to East Asia.
Oh sorry, to clear some things up I’m referring to Muay Thai solely in the context of its modern Combat Sport form because of how much the art has changed over the centuries.
I think it’s mostly because it’s in the pantheon of “what works” in MMA. At least in western/English speaking discourse, anything that so much as makes a small appearance in MMA “must” be modern. Even with examples like Lyoto Machida’s Karate I’ve heard people call it “modernized” karate.
It’s pretty silly and mostly just people trying to arbitrarily categorize things to fit their views on martial arts. Personally, I’ve got no issues with anything that has good training habit-traditional or otherwise. But a lot of people online take traditional to be an outright bad word in the context of martial arts. Because Muay Thai is successful, it therefore can’t be “traditional” by that logic…
It’s, again, dumb. Personally, I do consider it a traditional martial art. I know it’s developed a lot over the years, but I again think that comes from a misnomer that traditional martial arts don’t change.
The distinction between traditional/modern is mostly pretty useless and arbitrary, imo. Good training practices versus bad training practices is probably a much better way to categorize if people feel they have to.
@@fennec812 You make an interesting point! I’ll be sure to edit the description of the video shortly.
Muay Thai is East Asian though.
Machida could easily beat tate's "g" ass..
Osu!!!
It would be cool if you showed the beautiful throws of shotokan and ashihara karate.
There is one applied by Lyoto Machida in a competition.
0:23 video ?
here’s the original video:
ua-cam.com/video/EZ7YRewmbFg/v-deo.html
What tate said is partly true
Tate was speaking about mcdojos not about real dojos
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@@AnonymousPinoyKarateka thanks
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Wonderboy vs Andrew Tate?
kyokushin enshin and other derivates of kyokushin are great for fighting.
Shotokan is good, before matches were better than this shitty olympic ones... I am happy there is Karate combat tho, at least they can test themselves even more.
To me if you use your style,fighting sport or martial arts well, almost everything is good.
Pretty sure kicks were invented before karate.
and?
Mac dojos are destroying karate
I'm agree with that