Health Impact of Smoking & Vaping Both Marijuana & Nicotine | Dr. Peter Attia & Dr. Andrew Huberman
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- Опубліковано 12 гру 2023
- Dr. Peter Attia explains to Dr. Andrew Huberman the comparative risks of smoking cannabis, cigarettes, and vaping, emphasizing the significant harm caused by inhalation of any substance and the potential long-term health impacts, including lung damage and the risk of psychosis in young males from high THC cannabis.
Dr. Peter Attia is the host of The Drive podcast and is a world expert on behavioral approaches, nutritional interventions, supplementation and pharmacological techniques to improve lifespan and athletic performance. Dr. Andrew Huberman is a tenured professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at Stanford University School of Medicine and host of the Huberman Lab podcast.
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I’m 52 , started smoking weed at 12, I’ve been high since 2010, ran a 100 miles in 28 hrs last year, I run an avg of 25 plus miles a week on avg, lift weights 3 to 4 times a week. Dr always impressed with my health, ( including bloodwork) , I’m not on any meds. As far as my mental health , I like me and that’s all that matters.
How do you even know ‘you’ if you’ve always been under the influence of a drug?????
honestly, i think the main harm from weed is the fact that it makes you sedentary/lazy. as you've lived it, if you are still able to stay active, it seems a lot of the negative downsides are negated.
@@nikkilee143how do you truly know yourself if you’ve never expanded your psyche through mind altering substance
If you consume THC everyday to function then you do NOT have full soverignity over your own body.
@@nikkilee143I don’t see it like that, I waited until I was 25 before I tried cannabis and I’m now 27. I feel that it has overall been an positive experience and has helped me open my mind about things and also helped my introspection. I only use 1-3 times a week and the majority of the times I consume it’s low dose edibles.
Im 65, I started vaping THC at 60, I exercise and lift weights 5 days a week. Never felt better, won’t stop!
Don’t kid yourselves. This stuff is horrible for the brain and body and ages you fast. Makes you lazy and overeating, checked out and dumbed down. Most of all is the drug that robs people of their potential.
Jajajajaj you are inspiration
Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Australia. Really need!
Yes, dr.sporessss I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
I wish they were readily available in my place.
Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac.
He's constantly talking about killing someone.
He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.
Is he on instagram?
Yes he is. dr.sporessss
No one ever addresses dry herb vaping at different temperatures and the effects of that vs smoking - glaring and major missing link in these conversations regarding marijuana
Using drugs recreationally, no matter what form, is not healthy. Stoners will do anything to rationalize their habit
Exactly what I’m wondering
True the carcinogens are considerably less when you vape vs. smoke
💯 bro! I can't believe it's not discussed. I don't want artificial stuff like THC vape juices and I don't want to combust and inhale smoke so vaping dry herb is perfect.
My only gripe with dry herp vaping is the difference in highs you get vs combusting. Seems that combusting leads to a longer lasting and more steady high for me compared to dry herb vaping. Vaping is no doubt probably the healthier route, but as long as you arent overdoing combusting it should be no problem imo
To clarify, I think it would be helpful to distinguish between two forms of “vaping” which can be used for tobacco or marijuana (especially). One form is when thc or nicotine is infused into a liquid, which is then vaporizes into smoke. The other form of vaping is when one can simply heat the dry herb and inhale the active compounds found in the plant, as they turn from a solid to vapor (sublimation). The latter of these two forms of “vaporization” is vastly less harmful than the other method. In fact, the only downside to vaping mentioned is the trace inorganic compounds found in the liquid. The second method doesn’t have this downside. Anyways, it’s a common misunderstanding I see, simply fdur to lack of distinguishing
This should be discussed clearly in these "informative" podcasts. Thank you for clarification
Actually you are not correct. Depending on the temp of the vape and how much dry herb you consume it does affect the throat (aka throat cancer) and build up in the blood stream no different from raw smoke. Trust me, I have 10 years of dry herb vaping and 15 years of dry herb smoking and it is causing complications in these areas. I have had to stop and now regret thinking it was not harmful. The fact is people are delusional and believe what they are doing is good for them. This then catches up with them later in life.
@@higher.conscienceSnoop dogg and Willy Nelson have entered the chat
I noticed a big difference in my lung capacity as a active swimmer switching to a dry herb vape
Amen
My aunt got small cell lung cancer at age 38 and never smoked a day in her life. I also have an uncle I never met that died in his sleep at 19. On the other side of my family, my grandpa smoked since he was 12 years old and made it to 98. I think I will still keep dry herb vaporizing, everything in moderation because you could die tomorrow
Exactly.
My mom never smoked or drank but has nsclc
That's like saying my aunt died in a car crash even though she was always super careful while driving , but my grandpa drove like a crazy person his whole life and never had an accident , so i will do it too because we can all die tomorrow.
There's some fallacy I don't know the name of but I know this is one of them lmao, there's no logic in this
@@laza6141no it’s not a fair comparison. 🙄🙄
Dry herb vaping cannabis has dramatically improved my life mentally and physically.
Same here. Thanks for calling it out. I got the mighty+ and never looked back. Wish some of these guys broke down the differences between the different delivery methods l.
Literally. They don’t even mention dry herb vaping. Nor do they even talk about the different types of strains or grades. I understand they are speaking in generals but Cannabis is so nuanced especially the natural flower. Not the highly concentrated synthetic vape liquid. My dynavap does me wonders. I vape type 3 flower when I need it to feel more centered and grounded. I will never go back to the blunt ever. Fuckcombustion. It saddens me that most people don’t care or even want to know about this other side of consuming cannabis.
Hi guys 👋 how long have you been dry herb vaping? I startet my few weeks ago and i like it so far. Do you have some long term expirience (advice)? I use medical herb and if i want that chill effect i ad some herb with thc.
@@bogunovic84 yeah, just 'smoke' weed everydaaay lol
I'm neurodiverse and use it to battle anxiety/stress, so I'm more socially capable. My only real advice is to invest in a Storz & Bickel device asap if you are 'serious' about it.
Don’t kid yourselves. This stuff is horrible for the brain and body and ages you fast. Makes you lazy and overeating, checked out and dumbed down. Most of all is the drug that robs people of their potential.
I stopped smoking weed about year ago in February. Best decision I’ve ever made.
When did you notice changes?
Financially speaking almost immediately. We just bought a house in late October after renting for 13 years. As far as other changes I just felt more clear minded about a month after quitting smoking, more energy, easier to do things outside of my comfort zone or normal habits. It will always be a constant battle because I still know people that smoke and sometimes you get that urge but one day at a time
same here...its been a year for me...I like having a clear mind.....
Cannabis was a terrible drug for me, a 25 year addiction that gave me terrible anxiety, lacked motivation and a terrible cough. Took a lot of attempts to get off it but I am now thc free (2 year) feel great now so no long lasting effects but look back and feel I wasted a lot of years just stoned.
@@Daryl26543 just glad to hear you were able to stop and 25 years didn’t become 27 💪
Come on guys, it's 2024 not 2018, you guys never mention dry herb vaping amongst all this lets get it together 👏
I finally started going to the doctor regularly a few years ago, yearly bloodwork really helps them keep an eye on your health. We have a walk in clinic here in NM , and you can get on a sliding scale based on your income. When im going through a bit of the melancholy, rigid exercise schedules always seem to help me temper the worst of storms, I always feel better after a workout than before , it’s definitely a mental cheat code for me. If my workouts start to stagnate , I’ll try looking for for a race or something( I give myself goals), a half ,or full marathon is a few months of structure to adhere to, helps keep me centered when I’m a little off track. The only hero that’s gonna come save me is me. 🤘
I know what you mean routine and structure stops me going off track
As a “THC guy” and an engineer, I differentiate “vaping” and dabs specifically. There is a radical difference in methodology, and thus byproducts, between any vaping of a liquid form using an electric current through a coil for your heat source, and applying a concentrate (hash oil essentially) to a superheated glass (or metal) element that was heated by an external source, such as a torch.
The e-coil element emits heavy metal ions and I can taste it. My lungs also rebel within about a month, I will literally be unable to take the smallest inhale without spasms of coughing every time, and unable to continue until after several days-weeks of abstinence .
By Eliminating the electronic element I don’t experience that side effect from daily consumption (it’s my ADHD medication and pulmonary is the most effective dosing method).
I have so far seen zero literature or commentary that addresses this, and the public perception of “vaping” is all centered around those damn cartridges and batteries.
I realize my analysis is 100% anecdotal however, it is dramatic, absolute, and completely reproducable.
I vape dry flower that goes into a bag and returns to room temperature before I put it in my lungs. I have also done the cartridges and they are WAY more harsh on my lungs. I feel the cartridges the next day as though I smoked, whereas the 'cool vapes' give me no lung issues that I can notice. My big thing now is that I have cut down my intake dramatically. I used to be all day every day. Now I take days off regularly, trying not to vape more than a couple of days in a row, best case two or three times per week. I learned a lot by taking an 11 day break. My tolerance was reset and I got so high off of a small dose that I was actually very uncomfortable; I had to relearn my dosage, which is much less now. I figure when I 'stop getting high' off this small dosage, it's time for a break, not time for more weed. It's been working well for me. I am 49 and highly productive, very active, successful in a non-traditional way and happy as pie.
I’m the same way, I believe the affect has to be different if you’re getting clean high quality dabs, and you’re dabing onto hot glass and then that smoke is filtered in the water so I would say the best way to smoke would be dry herb vape or dabs could be wrong tho I can’t find studies on the topic tho sadly
How about vaporizing cannabis (heating it to 180-220 degC)? There are no added chemicals as in vaping and no combustion byproducts as in smoking, so in theory the harm should be even lower
I think they call that convection vapes. I wonder how clean/unclean that would be and also after being filtered through the water of a bong.
Exactly that i feel have no harm other than recin in vapour is an irritant. I vaped on a vaporiser for about 6 years and my lungs just kept recovering from tobacco use. Very noticeable.
I vaped this way for a while but you are just lessening the amount of tar you inhale. You are still inhaling burned THC tar
I think it is great, zero smoke. Or edibles
@@royfajardo586 at 175-180 Celsius nothing is burned. It's vapour not smoke.
One thing that's often left out in the discussions/research is "dry herb vaping". Not the liquid capsules. I'm curious on the data for harm both physically and mentally on that form of ingestion, since there is no real ignition or fire to burn anything since it's temperature regulated; And no added chemicals aside from the potential pesticides sprayed on the flower itself.
I’m asking that too mate
I just bought a Gdash pen dry herb vaporizer. Very different than smoking flower from a bowl or pipe.
Can you please make the distinction between dry herb cannabis vaping, versus the other type of vaping you're referring to using liquid forms (e-cigarette)
Dry vape would be the way to go over liquid or concentrate
I know that didn't answer your question and it's just my opinion based on my own usage / research
exactly this... I understand that data they mentioned studied liquid vaping and there is distinction to vape just herb/thc/nicotine opposed to vaping these substances in solution. I hope there will be more data on this soon.
I have a volcano vaporizer and I also want to know
its all bad brotha
As a marijuana smoker that’s 19. I used to smoke a lot of carts (thc vapes). All day everyday was high and I noted two types of tolerance there. The first tolerance is the one that’s obvious, receptors not taking it… and the second is what I call “lack of sobriety tolerance”. If you are high from first thing morning to when you sleep, and you are constantly trying to get a little higher from carts, you literally forget to remember what sobriety feels like and you are still high but you feel almost sober. Anyways I don’t recommend carts to anyone other than medical patients who can trust themselves to hit it only as much as needed. I just smoke from a pipe now and usually only at night.
I Whole heartedly agree. I started Carts at 20, was high all day, everyday for 6 months out of the year in 3 month periods. I am now 21 and completely sober. I am never going back to carts or flower. Maybe edibles a few times a year thats it. Young people if you read this, I'm not gonna tell you to never get high. I think it's wonderful, but dont make it a habit. If you do it once in a while, you can have a phenomenally healthy relationship with your highs.
is smoking from a pipe a healthier option than hitting carts?
@@jo_lar507 depends on a lot of factors. What is in the cart? Do you smoke the cart all day everyday since it is significantly more convenient than a pipe? And so on. In terms of mental health I would argue a pipe is probably better due to the fact you are less likely to smoke all day everyday
@@worlore1651 ahh i see, I was more thinking of one session on cart vs one session on pipe, so by reaching the same high which would be the healthier option. But its true that its a lot easier to smoke everyday with a cart
@@jo_lar507 maybe the cart? Atleast if it’s ACTUALLY from the dispo. Meaning you bought it at the dispo yourself.
What does he mean by "vaping"? Is it vaping chemicals with nicotine, or vaporizing natural herbs? I'm confused as those are two really very different things... Can you be more specific? Maybe something is lost in translation, as Vaporizing is what is commonly prescribed in Europe as preferred way of ingesting Medical Marijuana, so I would be surprised if it was as bad as vaping chemicals with nicotine...
Comments towards the end about air pollution killing people versus causing climate change are spot on.
What about vaping weed with induction heating under combustion temperature?
Volcano
My thoughts exactly
I use the airvape legacy pro, a beast of dry herb vaporizer
i'd like to know that too.
can’t huberman just say it’s okay to smoke weed so I can feel okay about the one vice I have 😭😭😭 lol
It's largely not
which is largely the joke bud@@ElHijoMayor
You should be asking yourself why you need a vice at all
I think i have largely given up on searching for data/approval that my vices are somehow “okay” in the eyes of health experts and body science. Smoking, anything is bad. Drinking alcohol, is bad. These things are very well understood. But at the end of the day I like the feeling that THC and CBD provide and I enjoy the taste of beer after a long day (less into the feeling of being drunk). If I feel bad every time I indulge in one of these things then it almost ruins the experience entirely. I guess what I am trying to say is you shouldn’t feel bad for doing something you enjoy, and by arming yourself with the knowledge of the risks/harms involved you put yourself in a position to be more responsible with your vices rather than being controlled by them.
in the full episode on marihuana he talks about how doing it twice a week is hurtful... so maybe doing it once a week is ok? lol
I love smoking weed and exercising. One of my favorite things is getting blazed and go for a run or bike ride. Personally, alcohol has been a motivation killer. I’m pretty much incapacitated after a night out which leads to wanting to be an anti social couch potato stewing in depression. Everyone’s different though. I’ve been a functional stoner since 2007 so I have an unusual tolerance.
If you ever have a hangover again, Roll up a Rumpledoobskin and i promise you, that hangover wont feel half as bad. I have found after smoking weed longer term that alcohol just makes me feel the same as you described, so its rare i drink now.
Check your heart rate while doing this, guess it will be trough the roof… mine is skyrocketing after weed even when only walking around .
I love taking a few puffs then lifting weights. I find I'm more focused on my movement and form and get a helluva workout in. I've heard Joe Rogan say many times that he and many other BJJ fighters get high before they spar or train because it slows their brain down and allows them to focus on what's happening in the now. Then CBD post-workout to help with inflammation.
Whenever I hear about vaping, it’s always about vaping concentrates (oils). What about a dry herb vaporizer?
Yup I want to know about dry herb vapingn
Used a convection type ( Air Arizer ) for dry herb for about 6 years , loved the clean tastes of the flower rather than burning, very convenient, no resin or smell sticking to clothes but, for those same reasons it is easy to use frequently and thus remain constantly baped out. Also notice that the way its used requires a slower draw which seems to have an adverse affect of my nervous system and pain not normally felt is actually amplified.
When he said he doesn’t use cannabis then goes on to say how a cigarette and a joint are equally bad, he’s opinion lost all credibility. How many chemicals are in a cigarette compared to a cannabis joint?
And what if he said he doesn’t use tobacco?
Someone who uses neither presents the least bias. Particularly in comparing the two substances.
Most of those chemicals are the result of burning plant matter in general.
Smoke inhalation in general is obviously bad for you, whether it's from a joint or cigarette.
@@nickolajwood8624People who use neither and are aggressively straight edge usually have a whole bunch of mental issues anyway. Not saying drugs will help them. But I've never med a person who was militantly straight edge who seemed like they were happy. Of course they would always profess about how happy they were because they didn't do drugs but actions speak louder than words.
@@locotekYes, smoke is toxic.
Think about what smoke is - tar gases which cool and condense in your lungs. Smoke is vaporized tar which contains the drug.
I smoked cigarettes and weed for 40 years. A pack or 2 of Marlboros a day. Been about 9 years now since I quit both at the same time. I started having trouble breathing. I'm 63, and I feel pretty good. My breathing is fine now. I still drink beer though.
@huberman may you elaborate the difference of effects of vaping dry herb vs. liquid cannabis ?
I smoked weed every day for 15 years nonstop.. Later when I went for a regular check up the doctor asked me if I even smoke because there was zero sign if I smoke at all and my lungs were clean asf.
how did you smoke it?
From what I understand, weed smoke has anti-inflammatory properties whereas cigarette smoke does the opposite. This combined with the fact that weed smokers (unless they are chain smoking joints all day) smoke significantly less plant matter compared to cigarettes, contributes to the difference in risk.
@@bchristian85 cannabis smoking vs cigarette smoking also encourages coughing and clearing of the mucus in your lungs, whereas cigarette smoking causes your bronchioles to constrict and all the carcinogenic black mucus stays in your lungs
I have smoked cigarettes for years and weed for years, I've had periods in my life where I only did one, and where I did both. I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that at least, for me, weed smoking is not as harmful as cigarettes. I am in the fittest shape of my life right now and smoke snoop dogg levels of weed, but my cardio is incredible, and I could NEVER do that even if I smoked just a couple cigarettes a day. The way even one or two cigs a day made my lungs feel and the chest pains it gave me when I tried to exercise aren't even in the same hemisphere as cannabis.
mate no doctor can tell you you lungs are clean without cutting you open
I had a rare lung infeftion laat year ans doctor my lungs were alao very pink and clean…bing smoker everyday and paper smoker …I obviously don’t smoke as much anymore but I can se trurh in your comment per individual
I'm over fifty years into daily weed smoking and my lungs are fine .
I've smoked weed since 1968
and I'm not adddicted yet!😂😮
You have no idea if your lungs are fine. Long term inhalation of any smoke into your lungs is going to cause significant damage. The lungs are not designed to inhale smoke...it's that simple
I wish the studies would differentiate between liquid vape and dry vaping
Its hard to believe that first statement when the list of chemicals they add to cigarettes is over 7000 ingredients
Do an episode on dry herb vaping pls
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We suffer 😢 depressingly. 🙏
1. What causes it?
(at a teen age specifically)
2. How to cure it ?
3. Please suggest specific drugs or brands of medicines to cure it through the GUT.
Unless you are frequently in contact with skin irritants, like bleach or something, it's usually diet.
A food that is healthy, may still not be healthy for you.
Your best bet is an elimination diet.
Healthy Gut, Healthy You by Michael Ruscio is a good step by step guide.
the carnivore diet put my psoriasis in remission. 100% gone!!
Vaccines
I caught the flu and can’t seem to shake this psoriasis weeks afterwards
Idk much. But what i DO know is i have been using marijuana since age 13 and nicotine since age 14. Im now 23 and randomly got epilepsy, psychosis, and bad deja vu.
I keep trying to get these conversations and maybe im biased because i smoke cannabis and my physician always tells me my health is amazing. So i only know about myself but i also have an awareness that my physician works for me and im there for their opinion so 🤷🏾♀️
Same I smoke cannabis every day and have for over 2 years. I wen to the doctor last month: FINE. I got all blood tests done (since it's been years anyway) and guess what everything was FINE. There's no rule that says I can't workout if I like getting high. There's no rule that says I have to eat only cheetos and garbage when I'm high. There's nothing that says I can't practice martial arts and then smoke after.
All those "fat lazy stoners" you know would probably be JUST AS FAT and JUST AS LAZY without weed. Weed doesn't make you lazy or liberal or whatever exacerbates who you already are so if you are fat and lazy already yeah weed probably won't help.
Well sebastian Bach the singer of skid row dr told him go comsume drinking wine and smoking weed at night to calm down because he was in good health otherwise except when he got off for a experiment his blood pressure went up.
I think they're a little overzealous. That one cigarette equals one joint is the least scientific thing I've ever heard. I am trying to quit vaping and smoking weed (for zyn and edibles) because I think they certainly can't be helpful to lung capacity, but this guy ("doctor") is freestyling without evidence.
@@ElSantoLuchador It doesn't at all, theres three times as much str in a joint then a cig, but dsr less carcinogenic effect in weed, in fact there's things that kill cancer in weed, so if you get some rick Simpson oil or edibles it negates the tar. Actually rick Simpson oil might have tar?! But its so powerful healing g it doesn't matter.
For me there‘s a huge difference between smoking weed with tobacco vs vaping pure weed. Of course i can imagine that the resin is harmful anyway for the lung, but i‘m wondering how harmful it really is? (except of psychosis etc.) any expert knowledge here?
That shit harmful bruh.
What about smoking weed using a water pipe? Does the water act as a kind of filter, or does it simply cool down the smoke?
What about dry herb vapes instead of chemical? Everyone seems to jump from weed smoking to oil and misses the beauty of a dry herb vaporizer, which is significantly better than either option.
Even a joint a day, how do we quantify that? Pinner .2 or a 1+ gram joint, and what if they’re smoking a tobacco blunt wrapper? I’d say even a .5 gram j or blunt smoked to yourself a day is a lot of cannabis. Say you’re only taking 2-5 hits out of a pipe or vape, that’s a very low quantity. With cannabis use discussion, the dosage per user and terminology can range pretty wide. Thoughts on athletes using it in small quantities? All for abstaining from all use within formative years, important discussions to be had!
About the same size of a cigarette. Obviously. They were talking about cigs
Huberman needs to revisit his public health statistics knowledge. Comparing the relative harms of alcohol vs marijuana is totally valid and appropriate. Marijuana is much less dangerous to society and the individual than alcohol. Check British Medical Journal July 2012. Over 80,000 people die yearly from alcohol. Check CDC statistics for cannabis.
Never slept well, I’ve had jobs when I was younger went a couple few years without weed, still never slept good, now I have pains that keep me from sleeping still, so it’s it’s even harder to sleep, I’m sure lack of sleep has a negative impact on me but I guess I’m used to it. I wake up early and feel fine,and have lots of energy throughout the days.
You mentioned CBD and epilepsy. It would be very interesting to have an episode/podcast on epilepsy as I had epilepsy growing up, went 15 years without a seizure, and then all of a sudden had 4 seizures out of the blue.
I would be interested in seeing a video on CHS (Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome) from you, I feel like it is something not talked about near as much as it should. It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on that if so.
What is CHS?
I love weed and all but I don’t think that they are the same when comparing a joint to a cigarette. Some of the best weed I have smoked has put itself out because of the THC was so high and sticky that the conversion to tar made the airflow of the joint completely clog. Next I was thinking about why don’t they put cotton filters on them and then I hit the interwebs and people had anecdotal knowledge suggesting that the high wouldn’t be as potent. Basically I felt like I was just on the hunt to mitigate the inhalation of something I was trying to inhale that was inherently bad for me. Edibles are probably the most “healthy” way to ingest cannabis and the most boring. I always preferred smoking but it is not healthy at all.
I feel you bro
When they say vaping, does that mean dry herb, or electric vaping?
I’ll abstain periodically, I commented to someone else that I’m currently almost a week without, ( surgery for a small ab hernia,, it seriously affects how much anesthesia they have to give you, and that shit is no good)I’ll get a little edgy for a day. The great thing about weed is it’s not physically addictive, anything you think you feel is just mental . For me it’s always been pretty easy when I need to put the sacrament to the side for a bit. Quitting sugar on the other hand, is brutal.
It used to be 20 cigarettes equaled one Marihuana cigarette.
Wonder who came up with that math, Phillip Morris.
Delivery method is the worst in both instances
Yes, delivery method can greatly reduce temperature, tar and the poisons within. Whether tobacco or weed, it's the mind altering substances we seek, not the toxic poisons.
Herb doesn't have nicotine, thats the "key" that opens the alveolos in the lungs. I'm 65 been smoking daily more than 40 years and a recent x Ray says everything fine. Not so much the amount. 😊
I wish I could use edibles, unfortunately thc doesn’t get absorbed by my body when eaten. Tried high amount of dosages, without any effects. Oil drops and vaping are the two go to. Any other advise for medicinal usage when edibles don’t work?
I've seen some research that suggests that marijuana smoke may not be as carcinogenic as tobacco smoke. But it still can't be good for.
After 10years of smoking since 17 I decided to start vaping. About a year later I started getting chest pain, got that checked and I had a mass in my mediastinum that was getting inflamed. The biopsy Turned out to be inconclusive and I don’t have any flair ups anymore. I also stopped smoking altogether.
I strongly believe the vaping caused the inflammations, though I don’t think it would develop a tumor in 1 year. In summary I’m not sick and I don’t smoke anymore.
Not trying to cause a debate… but something tells me you were vaping distillate carts, which you might not realize could have such a variety of chemicals especially if you were vaping them 5+ years ago.
Distillate is often times cut and even if it wasn’t.. it’s their BOTTOM barrel trim weed that goes into these carts hence why they’re the most affordable.
That’s why I only stick to hash rosin carts and simply rosin all together if I’m not smoking a clean joint. I do research on everything I get and even when I was smoking before weed became legal here it was Black Market from top rosin brands.
That’s because I first was using distillate carts and I had chest pain just like you. My asthma kicked in. I had baby lungs. Then I switched to clean weed and rosin carts lmfao and I don’t even have asthma period anymore even if I’m running. My lungs feel incredible.
So I just wonder if it was WHAT you were truly vaping that unfortunately just led to you feeling like you must quit for good. Either way good on you for feeling better :)
@@Yinyang1277 I appreciate the response. I was vaping pods, with Juices from several different brands.
Not all types of vaper is the same, it can vary a lot, from brands, models, ingredients. I feel it caused me issues but I understand if others don’t feel the same.
@@Yinyang1277same here, I don’t consume much anymore BUT if I do, it’s ONLY the highest quality Rosin these days.
I used to smoke around 30 cigarettes a day for 15 years… I’ve been vaping for 10 years, and I agree that vaping is not good for me, but it is a lot less harmful than smoking. I hate that so many young people got addicted to nicotine because of vaping, but I consider myself to be a lot healthier thanks to it. I’m sure vaping saved my life.
Why not just quit altogether?
@@Joseph-yc6qb I’m addicted to nicotine, and I love smoking, it’s the only vice I have, I don’t even drink alcohol. Honestly, I don’t want to quit.
@@godofredogYeah it’s hard to quit something where I find my self needing it.
My doctor said that nicotine has neuroprotector quality.
@@David-eu1ms as far as I know, nicotine is never the problem. The harm comes from the other added components. My understanding is that nicotine and caffeine have very similar effects and health benefits. Unfortunately, I don’t know a way to consume nicotine alone. Nicotine gum is an option, but personally I hate chewing gum. Patches are another way, but they are no very convenient and may cause allergies.
What about those disposable vape pens like the Pac-Man are they ok to use in moderation versus the cartridge vapes pens you guys have talked about ?
Thanks
How would a joint be equivalent in harm to a cigarette? Cigs are packed with carcinogens, no?
The inhalation of any combusted material is carcinogenic
Combustion is the problem, use a dry herb vaporizer , dab or edibles
Both smokes consist of tar, mostly.
@@albertoeffe8524Combustion is "a" problem, not "the" problem when it comes to commercial cigarettes. They are loaded with hundreds of added chemicals
I don’t mean to question your judgment on me having a problem , but being a science guy , I would think you would require a lot more information before determining someone has a problem. I abstain periodically for personal reasons with mild edginess for maybe a day , since it’s not physically addictive it’s super easy. But I like me better with weed, so I’ll continue. As a matter of fact,I have a small hernia that’s going to be repaired so it’s been almost a week since I’ve partaken, ( don’t want to goof with anesthesia it takes a lot more if you’ve been smoking weed) . When I’m healed I’ll pack a bowl. People get prescribed lots of drugs that they take on a daily basis, just because it’s not some crap pharmaceutical concoction, with horrible side effects doesn’t mean it’s not medicine. Im not here to change your mind, just providing some data to plug into with the numbers. ✌️
I guess Dr. Peter and Dr. Andrew have never monitored my cannabis intake
What does he mean when he says high THC consumption predisposes one to later onset psychosis? So the risk of psychosis with cannabis use isn't limited to the acute effects but can actually increase the risk of developing psychosis at a later point when cannabis use has stopped?
He seems to have no clue
Explain Willie Nelson, probably been high for 50 years ,super finger dexterity, able to hold hours of music ,and lyrics in his head, speaks more fluently than most people his age that never smoked weed.
Imagine what he could do sober
The thing is: Willie Nelson is ONE person with ONE story.
Like the good old:
"My grandma smooed 2 packs a day and drank 1 bottle of Whiskey a day and she got 99 years old !"-Story
That does NOT mean, that smoking and drinking made her 99 years old and will certainly not work for most of the people.
It just means the grandma was incredebly lucky in lots of ways.
So i guess Nelson was talented and lucky and healthy etc. But not BECAUSE he consumed that much ;)
Hope this was understandable, english is not my native language 😅
Yeah but there are also lifelong cigarette smokers who don't get lung cancer. It's important to be cautious of anecdotal evidence, especially when it concerns a single person who could very well be an outlier.
This is absurd. Tommy Chong and Willie Nelson are proof that this is an overreaction. I use edible marijuana for my neuropathy as I am a quadriplegic. It does better than any painkiller I can actually take, due to kidney problems.
Hasty generalization fallacy.
Smoking a joint a day is the same as smoking a cigarette a day? Damn…. I’d love to see the evidence for that
Weed is worse for your lungs than tobacco. This was proven a long time ago.
He said he’s not a big thc guy he don’t really have a clue I personally would say smoking one joint a day is worse than 1 cigarette if you factor in that most people will smoke cannabis inside a long rizzla with tobacco and a cardboard roach, not a filter that would come with a cigarette.
@@ashleydawkins2407 what you just described was a spliff. Not a joint. And people roll joints without cardboard needed. And even with those factors I’d love to see you cite a journal from a scientific literature that shows that one joint a day is worse then 1 cigarettes
@@O-TownInspections a spliff and a joint is the exact same thing they both don’t have a cotton filter like a cigarette does, and yes you won’t find in literature because it’s a pointless experiment literature knows they are both bad for your health.
I thought the thumbnail was a before/after shot
What about dry Herb vaping?
Saying cannabis isn't as bad as alcohol really isn't a crazy argument, if someone needs a substance to help them relax and they have to chose one over the other then it's a valid argument and very true. You can use cannabis heavily for a long time and easily quit with no serious withdrawal symptoms but alcohol can cause life threatening withdrawal symptoms like seizures if you abuse it long enough.
Although true, but not the point. The argument is that cannabis could be harmful for you, not which is worse.
You have obviously never been heavily dependent on cannabis
I smoked weed daily for 2 decades, weed addiction is like a sugar addiction, video game addiction or porn addiction. At first it might seem hard to quit because you're so used to it and it's part of your routine or can be a coping mechanism but you can easily go without and your body will be fine. With alcohol and other substances your body literally becomes dependent and will go into shock like having seizures, cold sweat, or actually physically get dope sick if you suddenly stop. That's why people will need things like methadone to get off hard drugs. Rehabs would literally laugh at you if you wanted treatment for weed addiction it's nowhere near the same.@@Realygoodatbball
Ha no serious withdrawal symptoms he says, well you ain’t me
I guess your soft lol if you can't handle quitting weed then stay far away from other drugs is all I'm saying, weed is nothing compared to other substances@@Skateandcreate9
Smoking caluses the system, fortifying it… I rather smoke then pop meds in my senior years.
Cost is the main reason vapes are my go to but also onset of action nothing beats instant relief
The emotional argument regarding cannabis is due to the real history and motivations for cannabis prohibition, specifically the draconian overreach of the DEA, it's militarization and the fact that the clear objective was never pubic health, but a method of targeting visible minorities and political opponents (the hippies).
There is no drug in existence that is as damaging to society as an authoritarian, unaccountable police force armed like front line military assault squads. That's exactly what the DEA became.
I used to smoke 10 joints a day...I read the amount of tar in joints is way worse. In any event love all the info and both of you guys.
@@comaboca Yea I don't drink or use any drugs...please stop implying I am an online drug store. I am a federal attorney and further statements like this are defamatory and will be taken seriously.
@@tripletbiguy6908🎉🎉🎉🎉
@@tripletbiguy6908how much for an ounce?
@@tripletbiguy6908LMAO THEY DLEETED THAT
Dry herb vaping is entirely different than oil based vapes. Dry herb has no inactive ingredients or combustion products and is far less concentrated allowing for fine dose titration.
Spaced repetition can promote retrieval of learning new words..
I think another factor to consider besides frequency of smoking is also what is being smoked. Natural cannabis doesn’t have nearly the chemicals cigarettes do.
I did appreciate the environmental air pollution insight tho.
Don't know about that being accurate. I've read anything burning that is inhaled releases 400 different chemicals into your lungs.
You can have many opinions regarding chronic cannabis use, but none are really valid until you actually quit
What about vaping cannabis flower with hot heated air like a portable Mighty device? Does that eliminate most of the downsides of vaping cannabis?
Yeah I think what they’re discussing here is vaping the liquid capsules. As long as you stay beneath 390 and avoid near combustion temperatures with flower then it significantly lowers risk of carcinogen release.
I switched from smoking mj to using a volcano style dry herb vape (xq2) and this has really improved my lungs/ throat
No solvents or additives, just ground weed
Had pneumonia in my late teens early 20s at some point and was a heavy smoker 1-3 packs of menthols a day also 2-6 large blunts a day. By my early 20s I would get soo much fluid build up in my lungs at night I'd start to drown I wouldn't be able to breathe I'd wake up let out several horrible coughs and gasp for air for a few minutes then go back to sleep. During the day I'd cough up flem often I eventually switched to vaping after 6 months of mixing smoking and vaping and the lung problems vastly went away. This was 10 years ago now I still have some fluid build up but nothing like before just occasional flem from heavy vaping nicotine and THC for these years.
I did the same switch, from smoking to vaping, and my results are similar. Next step is to quit vaping and take edibles instead of inhaling. I don't think those things can possibly be good for your lungs, but this guy is a bit alarmist, and freestyles with zero evidence for his statements.
What silly is people talking about weed who dont and havent tried using it for an extended period of time.
I was a alcoholic for many years, weed helpede stop and has taken me from 270# dude who got winded going up a single flight of stairs, and now have ticked off a century ride (100 miles) in around 5 and a half hours, and workout 3-5 days a week. Cannabis is a godsend and literally saved my life.
Same here bro. Alcoholic for many years, quit alcohol forever in 2014 (coming up to 10 years), but have been a cannabis user the whole time and now and I am extremely happy, fit, and like you I am into cyclist, and particularly endurance cycling. Congrats on your century ride bro!!! Can I DM you or something? Seriously, we got a lot in common.
same experience here
No memory issues, the only time I get a little foggy is if I’m running a lot,and not paying enough attention to my nutrition . I’ll notice it pretty quick ,and take a day off ,and eat a bunch, then I’m usually fine by the next day.
I've been smoking dope for 35 years and l just gave up 2 weeks ago l got bad withdrawals but it is getting better the dreams are so vivid
Best of luck man. I need to do the same !
the soils and nutrients and flushing methods of the plants actually DO make a huge difference with respect to carcinogen levels found in the smoke or vapor of a plant when consumed
problem with tobacco is that it is produced with very toxic pesticides and crap whereas weed is usually the opposite (depending on a wide wide array of factors) and is usually flushed very well
this is a very good point, just smoke that clean green and youre good lol. no pgr shit
These guys are going to be so surprised when all their charts look perfect and they still die of something.
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Vaping nicotine doesn't seem all that safe, especially with all kinds of artificial flavorings. I vaped for awhile and could easily feel it affect my breathing. I switched to nicotine gum when I started having trouble taking deep, full breaths. It was very dysphoric, and it went away after I quit vaping.
nicotine on its own is not bad though..
Don't chew the gum either...my mom has been for 25 years and isn't well
@@kellytidwell8319 what’s up with her?
@@kellytidwell8319Why? There is barely any downside.
@@kellytidwell8319there could be a million reasons your mom isn't well
No mention of the CHEMICALS added to cigarettes versus natural cannabis plant material? It’s apples and oranges. And harm reduction with cannabis is a valid practice that saves lives, it’s not “crazy.”
I like what Peter said about the pollution compared to CO2.
I've made this point a few times: instead of harping on about the climate, we should be talking about having a clean environment for living. It's so much more accessible to people, plus you can actually give solid numbers and evidence regarding the effects of a dirty environment compared to a cleaner one. It's also more scalable, which means there are very simple things that people on an individual level can do to have an immediate impact. Anyone who's ever seen a landfill or a messy room compared to an open field or clean and organized room knows the difference and feels it just using basic imagery like I just did. It brings it closer to home, and you can actually make a difference. Nobody is going to argue for a polluted place to live over a cleaner one, as long as it doesn't turn into something compulsory. That's where the climate issue has such a big problem. The changes in its name are obviously being forced on a public that will be footing the bill for large corporations to reap the monetary rewards. It doesn't help that they use apocalyptic imagery when they attempt to convince you of what needs to be done.
I'm against. We should NOT reassure people. 50 years ago maybe but.. TIME'S UP! I want people TO PANIC NOW in order to mitigate the chaos that is coming in very few decades.
You will lose, demon.
I had a great influence in my life as a young man who taught me a few lessons. I used to take smll portions of his pot stash out of his top dresser drawer as a young kid like 12-13 yrs old. He led by example, even though it was the do as i say not as i do era....x-c skiing, mtn biking.....telemarking....jack jumping....swimming. Never running said it was too hard on your joints after awhile, never questioned him. I think if one were to imbibe anything that combusts the pulmonary system it should then be met the next day with some sort of cardio exercise.
Also. Weed pens, dabs. They are much much much more difficult to stop. It almost feels like an opioid when you try to stop. You can’t eat, think. Shit, or sleep when you try to stop. But with greens I was able to stop whenever I wanted.
Well right out of the gate we get a very ignorant statement. I guess I wont waste my time with this video.
Great video thank you
Thank goodness cigar and pipe smoking is not enhaled. Now i feel better about taking that up.
Smoking anything is unhealthy but cannabis, regardless of its the same amount, is way less toxic than tobacco
Disagree
@@DroopyWorm it's not an opinion
@@martinusasp8927 Yes it is. You need to do more digging on tobacco's effects & tobacco's past around the world. If we're talking about unsprayed, organic tobacco, it is far healthier than Cannabis that is responsible for psychosis, especially considering its effect on the nicotinic acetylcholine receptors & just how effective that is on numerous ailments. Tobacco is/was regarded as one of the most treasured medicinal plants in South, Central & North America by primitive tribes, and by Western physicians in the past (used to treat at least a few dozen different ailments effectively until certain people started to lose profits - go figure). In fact, I & many others are convinced the reason they decided to taint tobacco with hundreds of added chemicals & create one of the world's biggest stigmas surrounding it is *because* of how medicinal it truly is in its natural state. Big tobacco has ties with big pharma. Destroy a cure & taint it as the cause. Regular Cannabis users, especially those who start young often have mental issues. My extensive experience with these people throughout my life has proven this to me, it isn't even debatable. Pipe smoking (organic tobacco) treats my IBD, CFS & killed parasites I had. Cannabis has its medicinal uses too, but regular smoking is absolutely not as healthy to one's mental state like tobacco is
i'm a physiotherapist who has a particular interest within respiratory medicine. No matter what you smoke (cigarettes or vaping), you are damaging your lungs. Here's how this works;
Firstly, smoking leads to chronic inflammation within the lungs. When you inhale smoke, it irritates the delicate tissues lining your airways and lungs. This constant irritation triggers an immune response, causing the body to release inflammatory substances. Over time, this chronic inflammation damages the lung tissues, leading to scarring or fibrosis.
The scarring and damage caused by smoking are irreversible. This can result in conditions like chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), where the air sacs in the lungs become less elastic, making it harder to breathe. Additionally, smoking damages the cilia-tiny hair-like structures that help clear mucus and debris from the airways. When these are impaired, it increases the risk of infections like pneumonia and bronchitis.
Furthermore, smoking affects the function of alveoli, the small air sacs where oxygen enters the bloodstream and carbon dioxide is removed. The toxins in smoke can damage these air sacs, reducing their efficiency and leading to decreased oxygen exchange. This diminishes the amount of oxygen that reaches vital organs, which can lead to respiratory failure.
The chemicals in smoke also promote the production of excessive mucus, leading to congestion and coughing. This chronic irritation can evolve into conditions like emphysema, where the lung's air sacs are gradually destroyed, making breathing incredibly difficult.
In essence, smoking initiates a cascade of events that harm lung tissues, impair their function, and increase the risk of developing severe respiratory conditions. The best option is to stop now.
Treating patients and hearing their stories on how they "wished they had never smoked" is truly heart breaking. Make the right choice today.
Okay, but smoke does not equal vapor, and it's not even close, chemically speaking. Smoke contains tar, while vapor does not. You cannot use the two words interchangeably like that, just because you can see both in the air. Vapor is a type of steam, or fog, if you will. There isn't enough steam/fog/vapor on earth to create tar, and TAR is what causes cancer/disease.
Interesting that Jeanne Calment of Arles France , one of the longest lived human beings ( 122 years ) , smoked from the age of 21 through the age of 117 . Not an advocate of smoking but it seems sometimes there is no rhyme or reason in the face of human longevity…….many mysteries……
Uhh I,ve smoked weed since I was 14. I smoke everyday and I,m 70 now and my lung o2 level is 98 percent. Doctors always advise to ere on the side of caution but living takes over. no booze ,no alcohol ect ect.
Right there with ya; I’ve been smoking every day for the past 50yrs I’m 66 and still working as an electrician. I work out and live a vegetarian lifestyle and most ppl think I’m at least 20yrs younger than I am. There’s a lot of fear mongering going on in this video. These people are scared to death of cannabis.
Alcohol has zero medical applications, and has ruined lives on par with, or exceeding those of meth, cocaine and heroin , so I think the comparison of getting hit by a bus or a bicycle should be more in comparison with getting punched or being hit by a bus, when it comes to comparing marijuana and alcohol.
It shouldn't be illegal BUT too many still wrongly believe it to be entirely harmless.
I think even 1:1 Thc is less carcinogenic simply due to less toxic compounds present, tho if you smoked as many joints as a smoker did cigs I do think it would be nearly as bad
I would trade pot for alcohol in society in a heart beat. The pot causes phsychosis fallacy has been around forever. No epidemic in pot smoking countries. What's real bad is no exercise, high protien and processed food diets.
What's wrong with protein
You lost me at protein . . . However I’d even trade coffees/caffeine for weed. Sugar too!
Too much is no good.@@larry6597
I been smoking weed for a long time I smoke about 4 to 5 times a day . I workout 2 times a day once at 430 am. I run . My morning routine starts with 600 sit-ups with20 lbs kettlebell then 400 Russian twist with 35 lbs kettlebell then 600 push ups. That's just the warm up
Hmm psychosis
If you were truly hard you would start at 3 am
Naa at 12:00 AM @@meateater1573
4-5 times a day, wow. That’s a lot of tar on your lungs 🫁
I have a very similar schedule minus the number of reps. I smoke within the first 30 minutes of getting up then off I go run at 4:45am.
Ya’ll need to get on dry herb vapes. As someone who swims 6-8km a week switching to the dry herb vape made a big difference and I go through a fraction of flower.
How about eating an edible instead or vaping a rosin chemical-free cart
So i assume neither one of them knows how to do basic research .
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Why do weed enthusiasts have the most defensive response to any discussion of potential harms of weed? There are plenty of benefits with MJ, but contrary experiences always elicit victim blaming and anecdotal exceptions.
I'm 62, been using cannabis since the 4th grade (not proud, just a fact). Currently I use daily, and only smoke the equivalence of 1-2 hits per day (1 hit = inhaling one time). So about 1-2 pinches worth or 1/10 of 1 joint. However, I have friends that do smoke 1-3 joints per day.
Lol just smoke dude why tease yourself what are you a monk how can you even do that!
Think about what might have started it, you're talking about the young people who are out of high school and in many cases sent out on their own. Many of which don't have promising aspects or talents to get a foothold on their life with i.e college or a set career and at this state in the economy, have to constantly struggle to keep their head above water and survive. That's a cut in the pie to why I smoke