Great video. I use a bell Skiver often. It is especially useful when making bags/totes. Besides my sewing machine, it is probably the second most used piece of equipment I own.
Good one Robert... I think I will be making one using Wickett & Craig harness leather if I have a piece long and wide enough. Stay well! Cheers...Freddie
That is a good idea to carry some firewood. Especially if your in a hurry and like you said, don't want to get dirty and having to go somewhere. Plus it would look nice inside by the fireplace or wood stove. Turned out great! Have a Blessed Day Friend! Justin
Thanks Justin. I was thinking of a design that used a wood frame to hold the carrier once inside. It could then use useful to hold the wood until used….
I like the handle setup you have which seems to be a lot better than rivetting or sewing on longer straps. My hand width is 4" which means that a 6" opening would work well if I were making one for myself.
Very nice 👍🏻 well done ! Great idé 💡 i have to try to make one , and about skiving , thats very hard i dont like that at all 😂always go wrong here thats not my fav thing to do 😅hope if i could i sure would get a skiving machine or eaven better tools ,
I don't own a bell skiver, and don't see myself buying one in the future. First, unless you are making production, it's not going to be used a whole lot. Second, all bell skivers are not created equal. Some do not skive veg tanned well. Some do not handle anything thicker than 4-5 ounce well. Third, as has been said by other people talking about them, most dealers are not really versed in the specifics of the bell skivers. They sell lots of sewing machines, but few skivers. You can buy a class 26 or class 3 sewing machine and have lots of versatility, but not so with a bell skiver. You don't want to buy one, unless you take leather with you to try them out to be sure they will skive what you will be skiving. Besides they also have a learning curve. And they take up as much or more room then a sewing machine does. Most people don't have that much room unless they have a building to do the leather work in. IMO, a crafter is better off trying different hand tools and getting good at skiving by doing LOTS of practice. I'm no pro at skiving, but I do pretty well. I use a Japanese type skiving knife as a preference. You want a skiver with a flat side to allow you to get a lower angle. Your head knife probably is not the best choice to skive much other than thicker material like skirting.
I really do appreciate your feedback. I was hopeful of some discussion on both sides. When I purchased the sewing machine it was a two year process to decide. I probably need to think on it more. Once again thanks for the well thought out comment. Lots of good points, it’s appreciated.
@@InMyBusyLittleShop No problem. Happy to offer my opinion/banter/view. Denny over at Springfield leather has done some videos in the past you may find helpful. One is over skiving by hand with different knives. Another on sharpening. I have started sharpening my head knife like he does, and it's more fluid and easier to sharpen them. His advice about sometimes moistening leather before skiving is also helpful. I think all of us struggle with certain aspects of doing leather work. But I think most of it can be overcome by practice and seeking another viewpoint how to get something done. A skive machine would make quick work of it, but may also cause other problems or issues. Especially if you are not using it a few times a week regularly. For a couple hundred dollars, I can have a few different quality skive knives. If I don't need them much, it's not as bad as if I invested 2K-4K in a machine I hardly use. If you find yourself skiving all the time, maybe it is time to invest in a machine. Like a sewing machine, a skive machine is more about saving time then anything else, IMO. Anyone can hand sew or hand skive and get along fine. But if you become concerned about labor and being able to price it into the products, well, that's where the debate about adding a machine comes in.
Im very interested in this also i have been told by the sales man at Weaver leather that you need to get the bottom feeder and that is the NP10 leathe 16:18 r machines company which they don’t sale bell skiver. I will be reaching out to Springfield leather and ask them about them and I also plan to call the LMC and ask them if the think I need the NP10 or should the NP4 would work for me thanks for your content.
@@markreynolds3646 Aaron at Maker's supply in Texas uses the NP4 in his shop. He has working knowledge of that machine. You may also want to reach out to him about it.
You would love a bell skiver I use mine all the time.
I’m sure I would. I have to decide if I would use it enough. If you have one what make and model do you have?
What great comments! This is a fine example of what it should be like! Cheers to all!
It is nice to have comments and nice ones to boot. Have a great day!
Looks great, top seller foe sure. Enjoyed watching tour work.
Thanks! I appreciate you taking time to watch and comment.
That turned out really nice Robert! I didn’t realize I was holding my breath while you were stitching, especially around the handle!
It’s funny. I think I find myself doing that during edit.
Great video. I use a bell Skiver often. It is especially useful when making bags/totes. Besides my sewing machine, it is probably the second most used piece of equipment I own.
Thanks! Would you mind sharing the make and model that you use? I don’t want to over buy. Maybe also what you wish you had done different.
Make another one and you will have one for each hand
That’s a great point.
Good one Robert...
I think I will be making one using Wickett & Craig harness leather if I have a piece long and wide enough.
Stay well!
Cheers...Freddie
So this morning I’m thinking of totally redesigning the carrier. More to come on that.
Robert, I wonder what straps for handles would look and work like. Cook stuff man.
Yeah I’m thinking on a different design. Stay tuned
That is a good idea to carry some firewood. Especially if your in a hurry and like you said, don't want to get dirty and having to go somewhere. Plus it would look nice inside by the fireplace or wood stove. Turned out great! Have a Blessed Day Friend! Justin
Thanks Justin. I was thinking of a design that used a wood frame to hold the carrier once inside. It could then use useful to hold the wood until used….
That would be a great idea. I like it!
Thanks!
I like the handle setup you have which seems to be a lot better than rivetting or sewing on longer straps. My hand width is 4" which means that a 6" opening would work well if I were making one for myself.
Yeah the handle area turned out a bit wide. I should have slowed down and thought more on it.
It's the right time of year simple axe sheaths too
That would be a great project. Thanks! I have three axe heads to hang on new handles. That would be a great place to start
That’s an awesome project
And just to be clear. I do have lots of opinions!!
Yeah the options are only limited by your imagination
Wow. Very fancy for the purpose of simply carrying firewood.
Thanks. I’m thinking on a tooled design as well.
Very nice Robert. I've made one with these for a friend using some water buffalo from Tandy. They are definitely a quick fun project.
Thanks Mike. I have used water buffalo for a couple of projects. I like the look.
Now that's a cool project and very useful. Very nice Robert.
Thanks Kenny! I think it came out nice. Snow headed your way soon.
@@InMyBusyLittleShop I'm looking forward to the cooler weather.
That leather firewood carrier is almost too pretty to use… but I would. 😜
Yes, but use it I will.
Very nice 👍🏻 well done ! Great idé 💡 i have to try to make one , and about skiving , thats very hard i dont like that at all 😂always go wrong here thats not my fav thing to do 😅hope if i could i sure would get a skiving machine or eaven better tools ,
Yes, the whole skiving thing is a challenge for many people. It’s especially hard for me when the skiving needs to be wide.
I don't own a bell skiver, and don't see myself buying one in the future. First, unless you are making production, it's not going to be used a whole lot. Second, all bell skivers are not created equal. Some do not skive veg tanned well. Some do not handle anything thicker than 4-5 ounce well. Third, as has been said by other people talking about them, most dealers are not really versed in the specifics of the bell skivers. They sell lots of sewing machines, but few skivers. You can buy a class 26 or class 3 sewing machine and have lots of versatility, but not so with a bell skiver. You don't want to buy one, unless you take leather with you to try them out to be sure they will skive what you will be skiving. Besides they also have a learning curve. And they take up as much or more room then a sewing machine does. Most people don't have that much room unless they have a building to do the leather work in.
IMO, a crafter is better off trying different hand tools and getting good at skiving by doing LOTS of practice. I'm no pro at skiving, but I do pretty well. I use a Japanese type skiving knife as a preference. You want a skiver with a flat side to allow you to get a lower angle. Your head knife probably is not the best choice to skive much other than thicker material like skirting.
I really do appreciate your feedback. I was hopeful of some discussion on both sides. When I purchased the sewing machine it was a two year process to decide. I probably need to think on it more. Once again thanks for the well thought out comment. Lots of good points, it’s appreciated.
@@InMyBusyLittleShop No problem. Happy to offer my opinion/banter/view. Denny over at Springfield leather has done some videos in the past you may find helpful. One is over skiving by hand with different knives. Another on sharpening. I have started sharpening my head knife like he does, and it's more fluid and easier to sharpen them. His advice about sometimes moistening leather before skiving is also helpful.
I think all of us struggle with certain aspects of doing leather work. But I think most of it can be overcome by practice and seeking another viewpoint how to get something done. A skive machine would make quick work of it, but may also cause other problems or issues. Especially if you are not using it a few times a week regularly. For a couple hundred dollars, I can have a few different quality skive knives. If I don't need them much, it's not as bad as if I invested 2K-4K in a machine I hardly use. If you find yourself skiving all the time, maybe it is time to invest in a machine. Like a sewing machine, a skive machine is more about saving time then anything else, IMO. Anyone can hand sew or hand skive and get along fine. But if you become concerned about labor and being able to price it into the products, well, that's where the debate about adding a machine comes in.
@@jamesw.3491more great points thanks.
Im very interested in this also i have been told by the sales man at Weaver leather that you need to get the bottom feeder and that is the NP10 leathe 16:18 r machines company which they don’t sale bell skiver. I will be reaching out to Springfield leather and ask them about them and I also plan to call the LMC and ask them if the think I need the NP10 or should the NP4 would work for me thanks for your content.
@@markreynolds3646 Aaron at Maker's supply in Texas uses the NP4 in his shop. He has working knowledge of that machine. You may also want to reach out to him about it.