I am honestly intrigued by all the Chogongjin products you tested and thank you for the review - ginseng products made for non-millionaires! 😂 One question though (and I already know this will be invidual but still 😅) - do you think that using tretinoin or adapalene and then applying the Youngan Jin cream could lead to unnecessarily high level of irritation, since it is so occlusive? 🤔
Ah! Great question!! I’ve seen differing opinions from derms on this topic. Some say to avoid “slugging” with a retinoid, while others say it’s fine to do. When I see different opinions like this, I tend to suspect that it may work for some, and not at all for others. For me, it does work (with adapalene, as I’ve never tried tret) That said!! I would be cautious with the first serums in conjunction with retinoids. They claim to - and seem to - increase the absorption of products applied afterwards. That’s something to keep in mind with a retinoid. If used first, they could potentially increase irritation!
@@AliceintheRabbitHole you are absolutely right and I didn't even realize this. I could be potentially increasing the risk of irritation twice - first with the essence, then with the occlusive cream 😬 I'll have to carefully consider, thanks for your insight! ☺
I always learn something new from your videos, this was especially interesting as a woman with mature skin. I wanted to share my thoughts on “velvet extract”. I am not an expert in deer, so this is based on what I learned online about three years ago. In our backyard we had the opportunity to observe a buck (male deer) shed his velvet before the rut (bucks fighting to be the strongest and have the opportunity to father the most fawns) so that the blood supply and sensitive nerves to the antlers that were in the velvet have been stopped and the antlers have hardened for head-on battles other bucks. The velvet brings blood, so oxygen and nutrients, to the antlers which grow rapidly each year. Watching him remove his velvet was a bloody process as we watched him rub it off vigorously on all the tree branches he could reach over a period of hours. Our backyard looked a little like a battleground with strips of bloody velvet hanging like ornaments from the branches he did not break during the process. I don’t know what traditional methods of velvet collection were, but they might have begun with simple collection of the discarded velvet.
I bought the exact same sampler fromHistory of Whoo and loved it way to much. My current plan to keep it in my life but still be able to pay for food is to keep buying the sampler and use just one of their products at a time
That set lasts a good while!! Rounded out with an affordable cleanser/sunscreen - tbh that’s a great routine that doesn’t even break the bank. Not a bad idea at all!
It’s actually very inaccurate to call this 40+ or old people skincare lol. This is authentic stuff unlike the cheap “westernized Kneauty”. And you can definitely buy “younger skin” lines from history of whoo such as the pink line or whitening line. The gold and silver lines are for any age but maybe late 20-30s would really appreciate them. Red line is noticeably thicker in consistency and is labeled 40+ menopause. However if your skin is quite oily still you may want to use the silver /gold or even their most high end line huanyu. The bichup line is also a line that can easily be mixed with any of them. Not sure if you’ve heard of odile Monod but that would be the most authentic English speaker making authentic Korean skincare contents.
History of whoo is the most high end hanbang skincare in Korea, always used top of them line quality ingredients. Been using this brand and other lg lines for more than two decades. Most westernized sites don’t carry many selections from these authentic brands that Koreans actually use. I used to buy from Korean boutiques in Asian markets which is the most expensive way to buy , at us retail prices. But on eBay which I’ve been buying for more than a decade is most closest to Korean retail price. Much better selection as well. Whoo’s most prestigious line , hwanyu serum has over 74 herbs and any skin age can use it. Goes on very light. It’s about 1/5 of the price compared to us retail.
Great info! Thanks for sharing. I actually found a set at TJ Maxx this week and snatched it up so fast!!! I don't think most people where I live in rural Idaho so they probably passed on by. I got a 7 piece set for 80 dollars that expires in 2 years. So exciting!
So EXCITED for this!! I couldn't wait for everyone to go to bed so I could watch in peace! Then my dog put his paw through the window😩 and the house was in chaos... Phewww FINALLY I'm here!
One branch of my family tree is northwoods people (think legally American but really Canada in all but name.) Only three most recent generation has stopped tossing an antler into the soup for flavor and alleged immune boosting benefits. They'd collect the sheds when the deer dropped them and keep them until they need one. I never saw anyone wash one, though, so i feel like that might have cancelled out some benefits if there were any
Oh interesting! Not too far off from bone broth, I suppose Yeah this really got me thinking about how urban (or suburban) things are for most of us. I’ve never come across antlers. Many a discarded soda bottle (👎), but never antlers!
I bought an entire set of skincare products by History of Whoo during my last shopping trip to H Mart. Also got an entire free gift set (exactly the set you're reviewing here) from the same brand, which is apparently a customary practice in Korean department stores. Like holy cow their products make your skin feel some kind of way. AMAZING. At 56 I fit the demographic and the lady who sold it to me was 62. She uses this brand and her skin was beautiful (she's also Korean and blessed with the naturally thicker, more resilient skin Koreans are known for). I may have to try more from this brand.
One of my favourite hanbang skin creams is the Face Shop Hwansaenggo cream. The cream has been quite a staple repurchase and costs only 50 to 60 dollars online compared to the History of Whoo creams.
Well, I just have to try that mini set! I'm excited to see how they work for my skin, but the Missha cream for slugging sounds amazing too. Thanks for taking the time to look into the velvet extract...that was a complete surprise!!
they got a massive sale right now on these i gotta check this out next week. this week i bought misshas mugwort essence and irish red moss essence and the a'pieu madeocasside toner it should be here by saturday im excited 🤩
I’m treating my mature skin as it is - dry and sensitive and then I evaluate the environment- cold dry hot humid etc and adjust . I definitely have seen dramatic differences just with keeping it as hydrated as possible with j serums and k beauty and a smattering of other products on hand … ceramides , ginseng , mild chemical exfoliation in the morning (toner )swiftly followed by several essences and a sheet mask, using my Medicube deep shot and other devices. I think that when we fall for skin care targeting “ mature” skin we are going to be over charged . Some products I use are for acne which I don’t have but because they are gentle it works . ( also of course using vitamin c and retinols ) Along with some devices keeping my barrier strong and skin hydrated is win win . Would rather spend money on devices that work and use yummy serums and essences followed by nourishing creams ( I’m waiting for the ginseng one from numbuzen you had reviewed ) ❤ Thank you for all your vids Oh and I love the number 3 essence/toner for numbuzen 😜 😮
Hi. Your routine sounds interesting. My night routine had been LED red light therapy,0.1%tretinoin, matrixyl synth 6 (timeless) & moisturizer. Morning- l-ascorbic acid 20%, coenzyme Q(both timeless), moisturizer and sunscreen. I added K&J beauty skincare to the above routine only a month ago. While I am loving it, I don't seem to be able to add many products before I feel that my skin has stopped absorbing it. I 'think' they are only sitting on the surface. I even tried waiting between applications. Would love to know how you layer all your serums and essences effectively. Thanks.
Oh...I am excited about this!!! I have a bday coming up and all of these are going in my list for various family members!!! I also love watching The Monodist and have seriously coveted The History of Whoo products since watching her video and now your video has pushed me over the edge to try them and Chogongjin too.
I really love facial oils too, and ginseng. So I bought the Donginbi one from Stylevanna, I was not disappointed. It smells amazing and since it only take 2-3 drops it barley looks touched, lol. I love the texture and feel, it's an experience for sure. I like to use it with the Numbuz:n #4 Cream.
Hey Alice. Love the video, very informative! Can you please do more videos on the brand Chogongjin. I feel like this is the first time i’ve come across a ‘premium’ hanbang product brand that doesn’t cost an arm or a leg. No matter how you look at it, other hanbang brands like: Donginbi, Sulwhasoo, The History of Whoo, Sooryehan are not only expensive, but also extremely hard to find/buy (especially in my country😕) Thank you! 🙏🏼
Hi Alice, it is good to include the ingredients for the hanbang tcm medicine. I may try out the history of whoo serum provided they do not have anything related to sulphur compounds. In eastern tcm medicine, I may be considered as a snake which totally detest sulphur. 😂 As for the deer antler extract, it is usually a form of building collagen production in tcm. I drank it when I got a huge flu and I feel personally more equipped to combat inflammation with it. 😅 17:54
Oh that’s so interesting. It does seem it may have a lot of additional benefits (and I confess that I find myself wondering how much that ingredient influenced my results!)
@@AliceintheRabbitHole Indeed, tcm works with the body natural immune system to certain level of combative power in accordance with different forms of inflammation. It can generally be categorized into heat, warmth, neutral, cold and extreme cold. I am not a professional in TCM but I read up on certain homemade herbal remedies to recover from health issues quickly with the western medicine too. 😉
Interesting!!!! … I just discovered today that my beloved ordinary copper peptides has been drying out my face I been using all kinds of eye creams and hydration toners and moisturizers and still dry I’ll be darned if I did not use it today and my skins awesome (I used the RNW Ceramide serum instead of at night )
Oh wow 😱 See I feel like copper peptides are tricky!! It seems to work absolute wonders for some, do nothing for others, and yep, I’ve heard some others say it did not work out for them too 😔
I was all gung ho for a lot of these and ready to add these to my skincare list till I saw the price and the amount of silicone (not that silicone is bad but too much can seem more like a filler ingredient than a benifitial one of you know what I mean) and that they had alcohol in some of them which burns my skin 😢😢. Why do luxury brands insist on using alcohol, fragrance, and loading up their products with multiple silicons :( I guess it makes it easier to eliminate products from the to be purchased list and saves my wallet tho atleast 😂 But I did give that the monodist a follow she is great and even though I probably can't use a lot of the products she talks about bc of the alcohol in them (rip my sulwasoo ginseng dreams😢😢) it is still super interesting to hear about the brands and their histories
This is a lot to take in. The concepts are so different from Western skincare. My 40+ year old brain needs to watch the video again to catch all the nuances. Curious if the fragrances are from ginseng. Am assuming they are not traditional Western scents, but I could be wrong. Looks like a very successful trial!❤
SOOOO different. The scent isn’t even close to western scents (far, far more herbal). But it’s still hard for me to put into words. We need a fragrance channel to pick out all the nuance there 🤣
The fragrances aren't from ginseng, the closest to ginseng scent was Donginbi serum (the version before the current one). An extra note, Numbuzin #3 toner smell exactly like the deer antler drink, at least, it smells the way my mum broiled it whenever I have a sore throat.
@@AliceintheRabbitHole Please ask Ara to work her magic and come up with a description! I had a sample of Sulwhasoo and it reminded me of a traditional Chinese medicine clinic.
Ara’s consensus (I included Sulwhasoo for comparison, and was informed she could only do one more tonight as these are complex scents-I agree lol) Chogongjin eye cream - freshly cut Bermuda grass, regular Barbasol Sulwhasoo concentrated ginseng - (predominant) crushed hibiscus leaf, Bic blue pen ink, wooden plank Welp, it’s more descriptive than my “something herbal” 🤣😂
Hi Alice, I didn't have time yesterday to watch your video on han bang, which is theoretically traditional Korean medicine, not Chinese. I bought the Youngan essence and apparently it is thicker than the Sosaen boosting essence and it feels like very thick honey mixed with oil, it is a very particular texture that forms a kind of film on the skin and I feel like I needed a cream afterwards Light to put on the essence, because the Youngan essence is very dense, and that I have very dry skin and I'm in winter. But it is true that the next day my skin feels plump, juicy and with a healthy glow, at the same time less tired and I don't know if it's my idea, but more "tight". This scent also has velvet and I'm not very happy with that, but I am with the results...😬
I just tried the emulsion from the history of whoo and WOW! just amazing, I could barley smell any fragrance and it just felt so smooth and made my face so soft ❤️❤️
Ohhh I need that cream! You chose from the two lines I've been eyeing up... The one with the royal jelly and the ginseng OF COURSE! Iherb looks like they have good prices on these as well and what's offered in Misshas website is significantly lower than the actual chogongjin website but it doesn't seem they sell the full lines.
Yeah that’s what is so wild to me! So you can order at a discount from both YesStyle or Missha, or…pay full price on the Chogongjin website!? Thanks for checking iHerb!
Thank you! I wonder if hanbang picks up worldwide, could there be a demand for fragrance-free? (Part of me isn’t sure as the fragrance might be inherent in it - it’s a strong herbal smell!)
I have fairly sensitive skin and the Chogongin Youngan cream was just too much for me. It left my skin irritated and a little raw. Super sad because it was on sale and I have 2 jars 😢 I really wanted to love it!
Hi Alice, I can’t speak to any of these products as I’ve never tried any of them even though I have a mature aging skin, my skin respond so much better to serums and essences and barrier repair than it does to creams or slugging. I’m not sure what that’s all about because my skin definitely leans dry these days. But I want to thank you wholeheartedly for the recommendation for Hamish mascara. I have been looking for my Nirvana. Mascara literally for decades. It’s the best mascara I’ve ever tried. I can’t imagine what anyone complain about. I’ve only had it for a week but it’s the only mascara I’ve used since I got it. So thank you!
Ah so happy to hear!! Yep it was the exact same for Ara lol, she won’t even try anything else as she knows Heimish won’t betray her! It’s one of few I can wear without powder too, love that it doesn’t transfer!
Watching as i open a yesstyle order still waiting on SVana . Did get im from ginseng serum, skin 1004 centella to combo with Vit C to amp collagen production a lovely lip mask abd a fif scrub for E. Will def get the Missha slug stuff . Really good video ubalways do love your ingredient deep duve analysis too .
Hello. I follow the Monodist and that is where I first heard about Missha's Sosaeng essence. I have been using it for about three weeks maybe, sans a few days when my skin was yelling at me because of starting tretinoin by agency. I am really loving it. I want to try the Youngan cream next, and use with the essence at night. Thanks again for a great review.
I follow Modonist too and when she did deep dives into these brands I went a little crazy and bought so much stuff. I haven’t disliked anything but we’ll see what I repurchase when I use up everything I bought. I’m currently using one of the History of Whoo creams for slugging but I’m now interested in the Youngan one. I have no issues with regular slugging but since this has petrolatum and all the other great ingredients then it’s right up my alley.
Hii 🥰 wow believe me your skin is looking better than everr and I've been watching for years and i think it's not just my imagination lol your skin looks smooth clear glowy and somehow more lifted? Do you feel the same?? i swear your skin reached a new level of glow what ever you've been using in the past two weeks keep using it
YUP. I was really surprised initially, but tbh I think it does make sense as I’ve gone on and on and on about Sulwhasoo before lol. I think my skin does really, really well with hanbang!
I really wish these companies would leave out artificial coloring and fragrances. A line could have such an interesting ingredient list and then for some reason they feel the need to drop in some yellow 5 or red 40. We’re all adults, we don’t need products to be a specific color. Especially when so many people have allergies to those types of ingredients. Having said that, I do enjoy a nice scent from time to time. But I can get that from my perfume or body lotion and not have to risk my face getting irritated. Do you think it’s possible the beauty of the packaging from some of these products makes you like them more? I know I’m definitely a sucker for a beautiful bottle. 😅😂
Yeah, it really is a shame as some folks won’t be able to use these. Unfortunately I’ve never seen unscented hanbang (will keep looking though!) And YES, I wholeheartedly believe scent/packaging has an impact! I really don’t like to do first impressions for this exact reason (at least without a hefty disclaimer that first impressions are really just for fun lol). But I do like to do these longer term trials, as at some point, the results speak for themselves. Be it good or bad!
Hallo Alice, wow those are so pretty to look at. Thank you so much for information on these and how you explain it all. As an ADHD person so often I tune out or see something shiny ( its a thing lol) . great video
MisshaUS is having a 50% off sale so the price difference isn't that huge but YesStyle is still slightly cheaper. I'm debating on the Chogongjin Youngan line because its great effects on lifting and texture might be due to the high silicone content, not actual skin improvement. I'm leaning towards the one with the Pearl for skin lightening, has less silicone.
The history of woo or hoo whatever is on Amazon they always have deals on it and Euni and Soo beauty are always doing advertising for them and their Amazon deal things. They have the sets and all that on their through the official brand . BTW they always do those BF and Amazon day deals too. Also that Soryhan brand Euni does alot on Amazon with . Sorry for my spelling 🤣 they always have deals too. * Sooryehan
Ah thank you for mentioning sooryehan! Yeah I think I do want to try those next. Very glad to hear about BF deals; now I know what I’ll be saving for lol! 😂
My dogs (German shepherds) love various antlers (deer, elk). I went down that rabbit hole (see what I did there 😅) several years ago to learn what the harvesting process was.
Also, Alice have you or anyone tried Blithe skincare? It is super interesting about the velvet and deer. I will have to look at that more. Sort of reminds me of using salmon sperm (I think it is shangpree that has some products with it)
Haha YES, yes i had the exact same thought! I discovered salmon sperm through some J-Beauty products and that was, perhaps expectedly lol, also quite the surprise! I’ve tried a few products from Blithe. Their bean essence is quite nice; a thicker and more viscous option!
Great video and information ! After using the AHC eye cream, I came to the conclusion that your skin has to be in a certain condition to really appreciate what changes the product can bring for you. So someone like me may appreciate 'lifting & firming' more than you :😀 Excited to explore the products you brought up. Thank you !
I really enjoy all your videos and how in depth you go in the ingredients. I am kind of an ingredient nerd I much prefer natural versus chemical ingredients to my skin care. Watching your video today you mentioned the Misha chogongjin mine is having black ginseng, but when I looked at the ingredients from your link in the description box, I didn’t see black ginseng in any of them. Is it called something else instead of black ginseng?
Unfortunately, all forms of ginseng will look the same on an INCI. So you will need to look into what the brand says about their ginseng type and quality. I wholeheartedly believe there’s a big difference in final results based on the form used!
@@AliceintheRabbitHole Thank you! I might have to look into all the benefits of black ginseng …. never knew there were different kinds, thanks for the info.
Yep! And unfortunately it’s not something you can spot from the INCI, as it’s all labeled as “ginseng extract”. But red/black ginseng do indeed cost more, so brands will typically convey when they use those (and otherwise, it’s best to assume it will be fresh)
I know this is 6 months late but I am diving into chogongin 21:13 again because I did enjoy the products I tried! 😊 so my is: have you purchased much from iherb? I found some good priced on there but eee lol
Deer naturally shed their velvet: it is what contains the blood flow for antler growth. Do the Koreans really cut off the antler? And have you seen the video of two deer with antlers entangled? One was dead and men used a saw to free the other one. 😢
Being a guy I just want to add that most skin care is targeted to women...... I am not sensitive to fragrance but avoid it at all on my face..... honestly, I just avoid the idea of smelling like some kind of fruit OR an old lady. Even European brands remain using the old fashioned scents . Thanks Alice for this review. Tempting products but sounds like too much fragrance and a high price point
I do agree, especially in terms of scented products. I have no idea why some brands think their products should smell like…flowerbomb LOL! However, unscented skincare is typically gender neutral ☺️
It’s a very good option, but one of many options so it’s hard to just say “this is the one!” In contrast to a lot of creams, this one has a heavier feel in an occlusive type of way, without being suffocating. It has hanbang ingredients but also fragrance (I like the scent) since you have oily skin, I think this would absolutely be too much for day and more for night use (but it might be perfect there; I’d be guessing given I have dry skin) Hope that helps!
Has anyone tried the Chonginjin youngin toner? I can’t quite stretch to the price of the Donginbi essence (in Australia from stylvanna the 60ml is about $190) but looking for something to upgrade from my beauty of joseon to hydrate +extra Benita in the morning before my Manyo Bigida serum and sunscreen.
You uplay way to much product 😅 three times less will be perfect for history of whoo. It's wonderful products 😍 for cream you need just tiny amount and warm if between your fingers, it won't ve sticky and it will be fully absorbed. Also after uplaying all routine you can cover your face with your hands so warm will help to absorb products. You can watch Sulwhasoo routine how to uplay it. 😊😊❤
Hey Alice! Today I decided to research these fancy brands too, such as Sulwasoo and just as in the essence in this video there was alcohol Denathol kind of in the beginning of the ingredient list and I am puzzled by this, how come such expensive and respected brands out alcohol as one of the major ingredients and do you think that doesn't make the whole product not good? Since splashing alcohol on your skin daily can be bad for the skim barrier, dry out skin etc? What are your thoughts on this? Oh and also fragrance?.. :/
It always depends on the formulation! Alcohol formulated *in* a product is not the same as alcohol applied directly to the skin. In fact, in small amounts, it can stabilize a formula and help with penetration of the ingredients ☺️
@@AliceintheRabbitHole this moisturizer is amazing!! My skin is so soft. So ordered the “Youngan” eye cream and essence along with the “Geumsul” essence and moisturizer. As for the “History of Whoo”, they have products/sets geared towards men..any differences in regards to formulation, effects etc?
I am honestly intrigued by all the Chogongjin products you tested and thank you for the review - ginseng products made for non-millionaires! 😂 One question though (and I already know this will be invidual but still 😅) - do you think that using tretinoin or adapalene and then applying the Youngan Jin cream could lead to unnecessarily high level of irritation, since it is so occlusive? 🤔
Ah! Great question!!
I’ve seen differing opinions from derms on this topic. Some say to avoid “slugging” with a retinoid, while others say it’s fine to do. When I see different opinions like this, I tend to suspect that it may work for some, and not at all for others. For me, it does work (with adapalene, as I’ve never tried tret)
That said!! I would be cautious with the first serums in conjunction with retinoids. They claim to - and seem to - increase the absorption of products applied afterwards. That’s something to keep in mind with a retinoid. If used first, they could potentially increase irritation!
@@AliceintheRabbitHole you are absolutely right and I didn't even realize this. I could be potentially increasing the risk of irritation twice - first with the essence, then with the occlusive cream 😬 I'll have to carefully consider, thanks for your insight! ☺
Personally, I would also see how irritated my skin feels that day before using slugging to combat my acne breakout. ☺️
Odile Monod is amazing. She seems so kind and careful.
I feel the same way! I am so soothed whenever I watch her videos
I always learn something new from your videos, this was especially interesting as a woman with mature skin.
I wanted to share my thoughts on “velvet extract”. I am not an expert in deer, so this is based on what I learned online about three years ago. In our backyard we had the opportunity to observe a buck (male deer) shed his velvet before the rut (bucks fighting to be the strongest and have the opportunity to father the most fawns) so that the blood supply and sensitive nerves to the antlers that were in the velvet have been stopped and the antlers have hardened for head-on battles other bucks. The velvet brings blood, so oxygen and nutrients, to the antlers which grow rapidly each year. Watching him remove his velvet was a bloody process as we watched him rub it off vigorously on all the tree branches he could reach over a period of hours. Our backyard looked a little like a battleground with strips of bloody velvet hanging like ornaments from the branches he did not break during the process. I don’t know what traditional methods of velvet collection were, but they might have begun with simple collection of the discarded velvet.
Oh interesting, thank you for sharing! I did come across some pics of the process (as it occurs in the wild), and yep - it looks…bloody 👀
I bought the exact same sampler fromHistory of Whoo and loved it way to much. My current plan to keep it in my life but still be able to pay for food is to keep buying the sampler and use just one of their products at a time
That set lasts a good while!! Rounded out with an affordable cleanser/sunscreen - tbh that’s a great routine that doesn’t even break the bank. Not a bad idea at all!
I’m soooo happy you made a video on mature skincare!!! Do more! 🎉🎉
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History of whoo is my absolute favorite brand!! Second favorite is also from lg , “the first” line from o hui.
I’m so glad you discovered “old lady” Korean skincare 😂😂😂 the deer antler thing is so wild!
It’s actually very inaccurate to call this 40+ or old people skincare lol. This is authentic stuff unlike the cheap “westernized Kneauty”. And you can definitely buy “younger skin” lines from history of whoo such as the pink line or whitening line. The gold and silver lines are for any age but maybe late 20-30s would really appreciate them. Red line is noticeably thicker in consistency and is labeled 40+ menopause. However if your skin is quite oily still you may want to use the silver /gold or even their most high end line huanyu. The bichup line is also a line that can easily be mixed with any of them. Not sure if you’ve heard of odile Monod but that would be the most authentic English speaker making authentic Korean skincare contents.
History of whoo is the most high end hanbang skincare in Korea, always used top of them line quality ingredients. Been using this brand and other lg lines for more than two decades. Most westernized sites don’t carry many selections from these authentic brands that Koreans actually use. I used to buy from Korean boutiques in Asian markets which is the most expensive way to buy , at us retail prices. But on eBay which I’ve been buying for more than a decade is most closest to Korean retail price. Much better selection as well. Whoo’s most prestigious line , hwanyu serum has over 74 herbs and any skin age can use it. Goes on very light. It’s about 1/5 of the price compared to us retail.
Great info! Thanks for sharing. I actually found a set at TJ Maxx this week and snatched it up so fast!!! I don't think most people where I live in rural Idaho so they probably passed on by. I got a 7 piece set for 80 dollars that expires in 2 years. So exciting!
Before you spoke about the products, I thought your skin look great Alice! WOW!
Thank you! I am sooo happy with these results 🤯
So EXCITED for this!! I couldn't wait for everyone to go to bed so I could watch in peace! Then my dog put his paw through the window😩 and the house was in chaos... Phewww FINALLY I'm here!
One branch of my family tree is northwoods people (think legally American but really Canada in all but name.) Only three most recent generation has stopped tossing an antler into the soup for flavor and alleged immune boosting benefits.
They'd collect the sheds when the deer dropped them and keep them until they need one. I never saw anyone wash one, though, so i feel like that might have cancelled out some benefits if there were any
Oh interesting! Not too far off from bone broth, I suppose
Yeah this really got me thinking about how urban (or suburban) things are for most of us. I’ve never come across antlers. Many a discarded soda bottle (👎), but never antlers!
We chinese do the same!
They are often shed naturally
a good product with black ginseng is the saro de rue essence it’s amazing!
I bought an entire set of skincare products by History of Whoo during my last shopping trip to H Mart. Also got an entire free gift set (exactly the set you're reviewing here) from the same brand, which is apparently a customary practice in Korean department stores.
Like holy cow their products make your skin feel some kind of way. AMAZING. At 56 I fit the demographic and the lady who sold it to me was 62. She uses this brand and her skin was beautiful (she's also Korean and blessed with the naturally thicker, more resilient skin Koreans are known for).
I may have to try more from this brand.
I love the History of Whoo. Its male line is quite good, even as a whole set of three. Looking forward to purchasing it again.
One of my favourite hanbang skin creams is the Face Shop Hwansaenggo cream. The cream has been quite a staple repurchase and costs only 50 to 60 dollars online compared to the History of Whoo creams.
Thank you for sharing, I’ll definitely check that one out!
I’m into Sulwhasoo lately. I love their scent. The whoo smells old lol I love Sum37 for many years❤
Sulwhasoo is suuuch a good brand. Albeit pricey! 🤪
Well, I just have to try that mini set! I'm excited to see how they work for my skin, but the Missha cream for slugging sounds amazing too. Thanks for taking the time to look into the velvet extract...that was a complete surprise!!
It really was a complete surprise! 🤯
they got a massive sale right now on these i gotta check this out next week. this week i bought misshas mugwort essence and irish red moss essence and the a'pieu madeocasside toner it should be here by saturday im excited 🤩
I’m treating my mature skin as it is - dry and sensitive and then I evaluate the environment- cold dry hot humid etc and adjust . I definitely have seen dramatic differences just with keeping it as hydrated as possible with j serums and k beauty and a smattering of other products on hand … ceramides , ginseng , mild chemical exfoliation in the morning (toner )swiftly followed by several essences and a sheet mask, using my Medicube deep shot and other devices.
I think that when we fall for skin care targeting “ mature” skin we are going to be over charged .
Some products I use are for acne which I don’t have but because they are gentle it works . ( also of course using vitamin c and retinols )
Along with some devices keeping my barrier strong and skin hydrated is win win . Would rather spend money on devices that work and use yummy serums and essences followed by nourishing creams ( I’m waiting for the ginseng one from numbuzen you had reviewed ) ❤
Thank you for all your vids
Oh and I love the number 3 essence/toner for numbuzen 😜
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Hi. Your routine sounds interesting. My night routine had been LED red light therapy,0.1%tretinoin, matrixyl synth 6 (timeless) & moisturizer. Morning- l-ascorbic acid 20%, coenzyme Q(both timeless), moisturizer and sunscreen.
I added K&J beauty skincare to the above routine only a month ago. While I am loving it, I don't seem to be able to add many products before I feel that my skin has stopped absorbing it. I 'think' they are only sitting on the surface. I even tried waiting between applications.
Would love to know how you layer all your serums and essences effectively. Thanks.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts ☺️
Oh...I am excited about this!!! I have a bday coming up and all of these are going in my list for various family members!!! I also love watching The Monodist and have seriously coveted The History of Whoo products since watching her video and now your video has pushed me over the edge to try them and Chogongjin too.
I hoped they would be good; I now feel they are incredible 🥹
I really love facial oils too, and ginseng. So I bought the Donginbi one from Stylevanna, I was not disappointed. It smells amazing and since it only take 2-3 drops it barley looks touched, lol. I love the texture and feel, it's an experience for sure. I like to use it with the Numbuz:n #4 Cream.
Your skin does look amazing ! You also look so cozy & im here for it. I get so excited when you post new videos !
I have been underwhelmed by my Missa Time Revolution Miracle Serum. THIS sounds very impressive!
Hey Alice. Love the video, very informative! Can you please do more videos on the brand Chogongjin. I feel like this is the first time i’ve come across a ‘premium’ hanbang product brand that doesn’t cost an arm or a leg. No matter how you look at it, other hanbang brands like: Donginbi, Sulwhasoo, The History of Whoo, Sooryehan are not only expensive, but also extremely hard to find/buy (especially in my country😕)
Thank you! 🙏🏼
History of whoo and Su:m37 i just fall in love with them🙃🙃🙃
Hi Alice, it is good to include the ingredients for the hanbang tcm medicine. I may try out the history of whoo serum provided they do not have anything related to sulphur compounds. In eastern tcm medicine, I may be considered as a snake which totally detest sulphur. 😂
As for the deer antler extract, it is usually a form of building collagen production in tcm. I drank it when I got a huge flu and I feel personally more equipped to combat inflammation with it. 😅 17:54
Oh that’s so interesting. It does seem it may have a lot of additional benefits (and I confess that I find myself wondering how much that ingredient influenced my results!)
@@AliceintheRabbitHole Indeed, tcm works with the body natural immune system to certain level of combative power in accordance with different forms of inflammation. It can generally be categorized into heat, warmth, neutral, cold and extreme cold. I am not a professional in TCM but I read up on certain homemade herbal remedies to recover from health issues quickly with the western medicine too. 😉
Interesting!!!! … I just discovered today that my beloved ordinary copper peptides has been drying out my face I been using all kinds of eye creams and hydration toners and moisturizers and still dry I’ll be darned if I did not use it today and my skins awesome (I used the RNW Ceramide serum instead of at night )
Oh wow 😱
See I feel like copper peptides are tricky!! It seems to work absolute wonders for some, do nothing for others, and yep, I’ve heard some others say it did not work out for them too 😔
My mature skin appreciates this video!!
I was all gung ho for a lot of these and ready to add these to my skincare list till I saw the price and the amount of silicone (not that silicone is bad but too much can seem more like a filler ingredient than a benifitial one of you know what I mean) and that they had alcohol in some of them which burns my skin 😢😢. Why do luxury brands insist on using alcohol, fragrance, and loading up their products with multiple silicons :( I guess it makes it easier to eliminate products from the to be purchased list and saves my wallet tho atleast 😂
But I did give that the monodist a follow she is great and even though I probably can't use a lot of the products she talks about bc of the alcohol in them (rip my sulwasoo ginseng dreams😢😢) it is still super interesting to hear about the brands and their histories
Yep I feel you (it’s why I’m not ultimately upset that I didn’t like the $300 cream - that’s money saved right there LOL!)
This is a lot to take in. The concepts are so different from Western skincare. My 40+ year old brain needs to watch the video again to catch all the nuances.
Curious if the fragrances are from ginseng. Am assuming they are not traditional Western scents, but I could be wrong.
Looks like a very successful trial!❤
SOOOO different. The scent isn’t even close to western scents (far, far more herbal). But it’s still hard for me to put into words. We need a fragrance channel to pick out all the nuance there 🤣
The fragrances aren't from ginseng, the closest to ginseng scent was Donginbi serum (the version before the current one). An extra note, Numbuzin #3 toner smell exactly like the deer antler drink, at least, it smells the way my mum broiled it whenever I have a sore throat.
@@AliceintheRabbitHole Please ask Ara to work her magic and come up with a description! I had a sample of Sulwhasoo and it reminded me of a traditional Chinese medicine clinic.
@@crystal2484 Thanks! I have no idea what deer antler smells like but it sounds intriguing.
Ara’s consensus (I included Sulwhasoo for comparison, and was informed she could only do one more tonight as these are complex scents-I agree lol)
Chogongjin eye cream - freshly cut Bermuda grass, regular Barbasol
Sulwhasoo concentrated ginseng - (predominant) crushed hibiscus leaf, Bic blue pen ink, wooden plank
Welp, it’s more descriptive than my “something herbal” 🤣😂
Hi Alice, I didn't have time yesterday to watch your video on han bang, which is theoretically traditional Korean medicine, not Chinese. I bought the Youngan essence and apparently it is thicker than the Sosaen boosting essence and it feels like very thick honey mixed with oil, it is a very particular texture that forms a kind of film on the skin and I feel like I needed a cream afterwards Light to put on the essence, because the Youngan essence is very dense, and that I have very dry skin and I'm in winter. But it is true that the next day my skin feels plump, juicy and with a healthy glow, at the same time less tired and I don't know if it's my idea, but more "tight". This scent also has velvet and I'm not very happy with that, but I am with the results...😬
I just tried the emulsion from the history of whoo and WOW! just amazing, I could barley smell any fragrance and it just felt so smooth and made my face so soft ❤️❤️
Ohhh I need that cream! You chose from the two lines I've been eyeing up... The one with the royal jelly and the ginseng OF COURSE! Iherb looks like they have good prices on these as well and what's offered in Misshas website is significantly lower than the actual chogongjin website but it doesn't seem they sell the full lines.
Yeah that’s what is so wild to me! So you can order at a discount from both YesStyle or Missha, or…pay full price on the Chogongjin website!? Thanks for checking iHerb!
Oo chogongjin is also on soko glam ! Well some items and I have really enjoyed them
You look so good!! Wish the Chogongjin line was fragrance free
Thank you! I wonder if hanbang picks up worldwide, could there be a demand for fragrance-free? (Part of me isn’t sure as the fragrance might be inherent in it - it’s a strong herbal smell!)
I have fairly sensitive skin and the Chogongin Youngan cream was just too much for me. It left my skin irritated and a little raw. Super sad because it was on sale and I have 2 jars 😢 I really wanted to love it!
So sorry to hear, but thank you for sharing your experience!
Hi Alice, I can’t speak to any of these products as I’ve never tried any of them even though I have a mature aging skin, my skin respond so much better to serums and essences and barrier repair than it does to creams or slugging. I’m not sure what that’s all about because my skin definitely leans dry these days. But I want to thank you wholeheartedly for the recommendation for Hamish mascara. I have been looking for my Nirvana. Mascara literally for decades. It’s the best mascara I’ve ever tried. I can’t imagine what anyone complain about. I’ve only had it for a week but it’s the only mascara I’ve used since I got it. So thank you!
Ah so happy to hear!! Yep it was the exact same for Ara lol, she won’t even try anything else as she knows Heimish won’t betray her! It’s one of few I can wear without powder too, love that it doesn’t transfer!
Love the tip to buy the sampler:)
You look positively radiant, Alice! I'm torn. The deer antlers have thrown me for a loop.
Same, it was a multi-day research loop too, lemme tell ya lol
Watching as i open a yesstyle order still waiting on SVana . Did get im from ginseng serum, skin 1004 centella to combo with Vit C to amp collagen production a lovely lip mask abd a fif scrub for E. Will def get the Missha slug stuff . Really good video ubalways do love your ingredient deep duve analysis too .
Loved this video!! I absolutely need to try some of these products having 50+ mature skin. Thank you! 💖👍
OMG I've been researching this very topic! I will watch carefully this video! Thank you!
I tried the Missha Chogonjin Youngan Cream and it's good for night use. I used it on day reducing the amount and it worked nicely.
I agree $82/5 oz isn't *too* bad.
I pay the same for 1 oz Clinique product for when get ready for work (for convenience).
Yeah, and depending on the product, sometimes it can last quite a while too. I guess it’s that “bang for your buck” situation lol!
Hello. I follow the Monodist and that is where I first heard about Missha's Sosaeng essence. I have been using it for about three weeks maybe, sans a few days when my skin was yelling at me because of starting tretinoin by agency. I am really loving it. I want to try the Youngan cream next, and use with the essence at night. Thanks again for a great review.
I follow Modonist too and when she did deep dives into these brands I went a little crazy and bought so much stuff. I haven’t disliked anything but we’ll see what I repurchase when I use up everything I bought. I’m currently using one of the History of Whoo creams for slugging but I’m now interested in the Youngan one. I have no issues with regular slugging but since this has petrolatum and all the other great ingredients then it’s right up my alley.
Same- whenever Odile posts, my wallet opens…
Hii 🥰 wow believe me your skin is looking better than everr and I've been watching for years and i think it's not just my imagination lol your skin looks smooth clear glowy and somehow more lifted? Do you feel the same?? i swear your skin reached a new level of glow what ever you've been using in the past two weeks keep using it
YUP. I was really surprised initially, but tbh I think it does make sense as I’ve gone on and on and on about Sulwhasoo before lol. I think my skin does really, really well with hanbang!
Your skin looks really good. I may try the sample set. Love the packaging. Have a great week ❌️ ⭕️
Thank you! I’m so happy it went well for me (without having to spend too much lol!) thank you, you too ☺️💕
Thanks for an informative video. I had never heard of the Misha brand. Thanks Alice 👍❤️
Wow dear so happy to find your video really great work 👏 ❤, can you please share some more of these hanbang brands.
I really wish these companies would leave out artificial coloring and fragrances. A line could have such an interesting ingredient list and then for some reason they feel the need to drop in some yellow 5 or red 40. We’re all adults, we don’t need products to be a specific color. Especially when so many people have allergies to those types of ingredients. Having said that, I do enjoy a nice scent from time to time. But I can get that from my perfume or body lotion and not have to risk my face getting irritated. Do you think it’s possible the beauty of the packaging from some of these products makes you like them more? I know I’m definitely a sucker for a beautiful bottle. 😅😂
Yeah, it really is a shame as some folks won’t be able to use these. Unfortunately I’ve never seen unscented hanbang (will keep looking though!)
And YES, I wholeheartedly believe scent/packaging has an impact! I really don’t like to do first impressions for this exact reason (at least without a hefty disclaimer that first impressions are really just for fun lol). But I do like to do these longer term trials, as at some point, the results speak for themselves. Be it good or bad!
Hallo Alice, wow those are so pretty to look at. Thank you so much for information on these and how you explain it all. As an ADHD person so often I tune out or see something shiny ( its a thing lol) . great video
I understand quite well! Glad to help ☺️
MisshaUS is having a 50% off sale so the price difference isn't that huge but YesStyle is still slightly cheaper. I'm debating on the Chogongjin Youngan line because its great effects on lifting and texture might be due to the high silicone content, not actual skin improvement. I'm leaning towards the one with the Pearl for skin lightening, has less silicone.
The history of woo or hoo whatever is on Amazon they always have deals on it and Euni and Soo beauty are always doing advertising for them and their Amazon deal things. They have the sets and all that on their through the official brand . BTW they always do those BF and Amazon day deals too.
Also that Soryhan brand Euni does alot on Amazon with . Sorry for my spelling 🤣 they always have deals too. * Sooryehan
Ah thank you for mentioning sooryehan! Yeah I think I do want to try those next. Very glad to hear about BF deals; now I know what I’ll be saving for lol! 😂
haha. I love your humor, "to have your products say kind words to your skin". LOL
Ok, I'm ready to spend some coins 😂 they look so amazing!
Thanks for the review Alice ❤
I caved and ordered the Youngan kit on YesStyle to give it a try. I will let you know how it goes for me!
My dogs (German shepherds) love various antlers (deer, elk). I went down that rabbit hole (see what I did there 😅) several years ago to learn what the harvesting process was.
It really, REALLY was a rabbit hole too. No idea how I made that section short in the end lol (I’m sure you know!!)
Also, Alice have you or anyone tried Blithe skincare? It is super interesting about the velvet and deer. I will have to look at that more. Sort of reminds me of using salmon sperm (I think it is shangpree that has some products with it)
Haha YES, yes i had the exact same thought! I discovered salmon sperm through some J-Beauty products and that was, perhaps expectedly lol, also quite the surprise!
I’ve tried a few products from Blithe. Their bean essence is quite nice; a thicker and more viscous option!
As much as I want to try out hanbang skincare, I don't think I can stomach the cost!
As always lovely vlog thank you Alice 🎉😊❤xx
Great video and information ! After using the AHC eye cream, I came to the conclusion that your skin has to be in a certain condition to really appreciate what changes the product can bring for you.
So someone like me may appreciate 'lifting & firming' more than you :😀
Excited to explore the products you brought up. Thank you !
That’s a very good point ☺️
Once you go Whoo, you Whoont go back 😂
It might be true 👀
I really enjoy all your videos and how in depth you go in the ingredients. I am kind of an ingredient nerd I much prefer natural versus chemical ingredients to my skin care. Watching your video today you mentioned the Misha chogongjin mine is having black ginseng, but when I looked at the ingredients from your link in the description box, I didn’t see black ginseng in any of them. Is it called something else instead of black ginseng?
Unfortunately, all forms of ginseng will look the same on an INCI. So you will need to look into what the brand says about their ginseng type and quality. I wholeheartedly believe there’s a big difference in final results based on the form used!
@@AliceintheRabbitHole Thank you! I might have to look into all the benefits of black ginseng …. never knew there were different kinds, thanks for the info.
Hello Alice, can you tell me if these products are also suitable for men ?
deer antler extract?? woah.. looks like its in the history of whoo cream too!
Yup! It was an interesting crossover to see it in both those brands 🤔
So what I'm gleaning is skin is pretty clear. Anything else you like about ur skin w/ginseng.
I feel like it evens, smoothes, and clears!
i love your hair here 😍😍😍
Thank you ☺️
Hmm I hate the feeling of slugging to a point that I won’t do it… this last cream might be an answer for that
I bought that wild ginseng oil from TesterKorea.
Thank you for sharing! I’ve heard a lot about that site
Sulwhasoo or history of whoo is better for 40’s?
Samples are good (I mean hello, Tatcha).
Indeed! 😁
what about Nature Republic? I read their red korean ginseng line has gold?
@ 13:36
Ohh😮. Red ginseng is aged. I did not know that.
Yep! And unfortunately it’s not something you can spot from the INCI, as it’s all labeled as “ginseng extract”. But red/black ginseng do indeed cost more, so brands will typically convey when they use those (and otherwise, it’s best to assume it will be fresh)
I know this is 6 months late but I am diving into chogongin 21:13 again because I did enjoy the products I tried! 😊 so my is: have you purchased much from iherb? I found some good priced on there but eee lol
Amazon has history of woo products and they offer discounts for those who subscribe
Thanks for sharing!
Great Video! :D :D
I have more of an oily/dry spot/redish/ very acne prone skin 😭
Deer naturally shed their velvet: it is what contains the blood flow for antler growth. Do the Koreans really cut off the antler? And have you seen the video of two deer with antlers entangled? One was dead and men used a saw to free the other one. 😢
From what I read, no the harvesting is actually going on in New Zealand!
Yeah no. I don’t need deer antlers in my skincare. Thanks for telling us.
What’s your take on eating gelatin? 😅
@@TatexLy I don’t do it.
I need them. Sounds like a exotic ingredient.
@@WaffleRedondo exotic doesn’t mean effective and we should stop using animals to fuel our vanity!
@@Lulu-kt6gr I already tried it and it's good
Lol😂so true we do need our skin care saying kind things to our skin. I know I call my skin crazy all the time!!!
15:50 slugging...here it is
Have you tried the sosaeng line ?
Is The History of Whoo good for sensitive skin? :)
Where did you get the wand you use for under your eyes?
It came with the Heimish marine eye cream!
Being a guy I just want to add that most skin care is targeted to women......
I am not sensitive to fragrance but avoid it at all on my face..... honestly, I just avoid the idea of smelling like some kind of fruit OR an old lady.
Even European brands remain using the old fashioned scents .
Thanks Alice for this review.
Tempting products but sounds like too much fragrance and a high price point
I do agree, especially in terms of scented products. I have no idea why some brands think their products should smell like…flowerbomb LOL! However, unscented skincare is typically gender neutral ☺️
Hi Alice! I have oily, mature skin (+40), would you recommend the MISSHA - Chogongjin Youngan Jin Cream for me or something else? Thank you!
It’s a very good option, but one of many options so it’s hard to just say “this is the one!”
In contrast to a lot of creams, this one has a heavier feel in an occlusive type of way, without being suffocating. It has hanbang ingredients but also fragrance (I like the scent) since you have oily skin, I think this would absolutely be too much for day and more for night use (but it might be perfect there; I’d be guessing given I have dry skin)
Hope that helps!
Has anyone tried the Chonginjin youngin toner? I can’t quite stretch to the price of the Donginbi essence (in Australia from stylvanna the 60ml is about $190) but looking for something to upgrade from my beauty of joseon to hydrate +extra Benita in the morning before my Manyo Bigida serum and sunscreen.
how to use conjongjin set?
What would you recommend from Korean skin products for mature skin as a day cream ?
Sum 37 is good or bad?
FYI, to get royal jelly, the baby bee has to be killed.
You uplay way to much product 😅 three times less will be perfect for history of whoo. It's wonderful products 😍 for cream you need just tiny amount and warm if between your fingers, it won't ve sticky and it will be fully absorbed. Also after uplaying all routine you can cover your face with your hands so warm will help to absorb products. You can watch Sulwhasoo routine how to uplay it. 😊😊❤
Hey Alice! Today I decided to research these fancy brands too, such as Sulwasoo and just as in the essence in this video there was alcohol Denathol kind of in the beginning of the ingredient list and I am puzzled by this, how come such expensive and respected brands out alcohol as one of the major ingredients and do you think that doesn't make the whole product not good? Since splashing alcohol on your skin daily can be bad for the skim barrier, dry out skin etc? What are your thoughts on this? Oh and also fragrance?.. :/
It always depends on the formulation! Alcohol formulated *in* a product is not the same as alcohol applied directly to the skin. In fact, in small amounts, it can stabilize a formula and help with penetration of the ingredients ☺️
Well am not liking you !! 😜 Popped on Stylevana to order the Missha moisturizer and eye cream. Thanks for the good review.
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🤣 let me know how it goes for you!
@@AliceintheRabbitHole this moisturizer is amazing!! My skin is so soft. So ordered the “Youngan” eye cream and essence along with the “Geumsul” essence and moisturizer. As for the “History of Whoo”, they have products/sets geared towards men..any differences in regards to formulation, effects etc?
Hello!!
Hi Alice do u know what are tge differences from Sosaeng Jin Essence 50ml to Sosaeng Jin Boosting Essence 90ml? Thankyou for ur help😊
Hmm, both are essences or is one an emulsion? If you’re finding two labeled as essences, I’m guessing one is a travel size, perhaps
Thank you for your reply ❤
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