When I started shooting, I never had any family or mentors who shot to show me the ropes. The other cleaning videos by GunBlue (and all of them really) have been so invaluable to me. I've been thinking of picking up one of these over unders, so I'm really grateful for this vid!
Fit is the most important thing about any shotgun. I did a video on shotgun fit a number of years ago that I recommend. Franchi, Browning, and Beretta all make great over/unders, but their lengths of pull and drop at the comb are quite different, which suit different people's personal conformation. If you can find a dealer who has each in stock to try out side by side, you'll discover which is best for you!
This gentleman is the best of the best!! God bless you sir for sharing you knowledge with people freely and kindly as you do. Take care and I can’t wait to watch the next cleaning video!!
I use a fraction of a smidgen of grease on the hinge of my Winchester 101, seemed to be the common method back 30 years ago. After watching your video using oil, I guess I need to research Winchester recommended method. I purchased the 101 used and without manual many years ago. Thanks for video. 👍
As always, another clear and simple explanation for working on a o/u shotgun. It’s hard to believe that the Beretta 686 is their entry level gun at such an MSRP! Even when you find a good price on one, the gun still runs $2K+/-. Happy New Year! Hope all’s going well with Murphy!
Greetings Sir! Always a good day when I see a new upload from this channel. Just wanted to say thank you again for all the information you have shared with us. I recently picked up a new piece and the first place I went after reading through the manual was here to watch your video titled " How to Prepare, and Care for a New Gun". Very best wishes to you and yours!
Wayne, it’s been a good while. Glad to see you’re still on the sunny side of life. I find your stance on gun oils to be enlightening. Honestly, you just don’t hear your position being espoused anywhere else…and the amount of degraded wood stocks in the world attest to it, too.
Wipe the barrels under the forend with an oil cloth before snapping the forend on or the blued metal can rust from handling them while reassembling the gun.
Thank you for for creating this video. This is exactly how I care for my trap guns, albeit not after every use. I just periodically clean the bore and lightly lubricate the wear points several times throughout the year. I did not know to return the break open lever to the center position. I do now. One other thing I do is to fire both barrels with the gun disassembled by holding a fired empty shell against the firing pins to relieve the firing springs. I do not have snap caps and I believe that when you open the gun to disassemble it resets the firing pins.
Thank you. I've kept my two Mirokus in perfect shape for nearly fifty years by following the same procedures. I recently saw an article by a pundit on English guns which said that the hinge pin should be greased rather than oiled. I tried Penn fishing reel grease which seems to work well.
Hi Wayne nice to see you again!! I definitely agree with over oil . I had seen some used guns at shows and gun shops. They had so much oil stain on the wood. It was terrible. Yes definitely agree with you sir ! Thank you Wayne nice to see you again!!! As always !!
What great timing on this video. I just bought a brand new silver pigeon and I’m glad you made this video. I’d like to see what I need to do to the shot gun before I use it for the 1st time. I really enjoy your videos.
Seems like since I started watching your channel, I probably have enough gun lubricants to last me, my kids, and grandkids our whole lives. But I do like that there aren't the oil stains on the firearms anymore. I don't even look at new lubricants when I am at the gun store anymore.
You mean Huglu makes some affordable O/U and SxS shotguns… CZ just imports them. That said I have a few. The 20ga is flawless, even has some beautiful wood. But the 12ga doesn’t always like to fire the first barrel after changing which barrel fires first, side from that little problem they’ve been great
@@GunBlue490there’s something a little awkward about having to leave snap caps in the gun while stored, but I suppose there’s no way of getting them out again without re-cocking the gun…or at least I can’t think of one. Thanks for the great info!
I could be wrong, but my CG will allow me to fire my snap caps, remove the fore-end and remove the barrels without re-engaging the extractors/ejectors. I just let the snap caps fall, remove the barrels and disengage the spring for the action/lever and store it in the case without worry.
could you do a video on cleaning and protecting old wood stocks and handles? I was thinking of cleaning with ballistol and coating the outside with tung oil . Would this work? this is for 50 year old hard wood grips.
Sir, Excuse me if this is the incorrect format to ask this question, but I'm interested in hearing what you might have to say about it: Would a blued revolver (Model 29) fare well in the great outdoors for extended periods of time, so long as I keep the finish lightly oiled? I'm looking for a woods .44 magnum and would prefer blued over stainless unless it would rust too easily. Thank you
Good info. Thank you. Everything you said makes sense to me. But, all of the major gun manufacturers on UA-cam suggest lightly greasing the hinge pins and other contact points on O/U. I’m inclined to follow your advice. Any thoughts on why you seem to be an outlier?
Sir I have a 1950s Savage 12 ga O/U my dad willed me. Suggestions. My auction gun is a Traditions 20 ga auction gun 1990s. Same. Dads gun was used as they did then my tradition has shot less than 2 boxes, same. Thanks Chuck
Wayne, Thank you for this instructive video. I wish I saw it and your others 50 years ago. One question, after you release the firing pins won’t they recock when you open the gun to release the lever and to disassemble for storage in the luggage type case? Don’t you have to remove the forearm first to prevent the recocking? Thanks again for all your insights.
Yes, the gun recocks when the action is opened to place it in a carrying case. For that reason, a carry case is not a good storage option. The best storage option is to assemble the gun, and release the firing pins on dummy rounds.
I’m actually thinking about a CZ coach gun in the future so this is am excellent tutorial. Thank you Gunblue. I have a reloading question. I have trouble seating flat base rifle bullets. From time to time I end up crushing the neck. Any advice on seating flat base bullets? Thank you for the work you do.
A good video and good advice, thank you, but I must correct two things below. As for cleaning, what you say is exactly what I have been doing for the last 20+ years with my 686E Sporting Clays gun and after many many thousands of rounds my shotgun is just as beautiful as when it was new. Now, about springs ... ...mechanical engineers will tell you, as they have told me for 30 years, that what causes wear and stress is the actual cycling operation of the spring and not whether it is in a cocked / uncocked or compressed / uncompressed state. Absolutely no harm is caused by leaving the hammers in a cocked state, just as no harm is caused by leaving magazines in a loaded state. Even when "spring tension is relieved" there is still considerable compression of the spring; only if the spring were completely out of the firearm would it be fully uncompressed. So, the urge to "release spring tension" is not scientific, it is emotional. This is what mechanical engineers in various high-tech companies have unanimously told me for 30 years; I am just the messenger. Second, those plastic snap-caps are prone to having their rims break off. Better snap caps are brass, just like a real shell, and actually have a cotton or fabric bore brush on the other end that keeps the chamber clean. Thank you for explaining why the bottom barrel is usually the barrel to be fired first and thank you for your time making these videos and sharing your knowledge with us.
I was taught, "If it spins, oil it. If it slides, grease it." As a skeet shooter I have followed that rule for years on my shotguns with excellent results. But oil is better than nothing, I suppose.
all good stuff. One last step should be to oil/wipe down the barrels after being handled with hands before being stored. Stay safe, stay armed , stay free.
I’ve shot o/u shotguns for many, many years, it’s all I shoot. I just learned I was cleaning them all wrong! Thank You for this lesson!
When I started shooting, I never had any family or mentors who shot to show me the ropes. The other cleaning videos by GunBlue (and all of them really) have been so invaluable to me. I've been thinking of picking up one of these over unders, so I'm really grateful for this vid!
Same here. Gun blue got me started and taught me alot about everything he has done
Fit is the most important thing about any shotgun. I did a video on shotgun fit a number of years ago that I recommend. Franchi, Browning, and Beretta all make great over/unders, but their lengths of pull and drop at the comb are quite different, which suit different people's personal conformation. If you can find a dealer who has each in stock to try out side by side, you'll discover which is best for you!
Some of the best firearm information on this platform
This gentleman is the best of the best!! God bless you sir for sharing you knowledge with people freely and kindly as you do. Take care and I can’t wait to watch the next cleaning video!!
Once again we are blessed to have you
Thank you, GB. I always enjoy your informative videos.
I use a fraction of a smidgen of grease on the hinge of my Winchester 101, seemed to be the common method back 30 years ago. After watching your video using oil, I guess I need to research Winchester recommended method. I purchased the 101 used and without manual many years ago. Thanks for video. 👍
As always, another clear and simple explanation for working on a o/u shotgun.
It’s hard to believe that the Beretta 686 is their entry level gun at such an MSRP! Even when you find a good price on one, the gun still runs $2K+/-.
Happy New Year!
Hope all’s going well with Murphy!
One of the nicest and favorite o/u ever made.
Greetings Sir! Always a good day when I see a new upload from this channel.
Just wanted to say thank you again for all the information you have shared with us. I recently picked up a new piece and the first place I went after reading through the manual was here to watch your video titled " How to Prepare, and Care for a New Gun".
Very best wishes to you and yours!
Very informative and timely as I just bought an O/U 28 gauge . Thanks.
Wayne, it’s been a good while. Glad to see you’re still on the sunny side of life. I find your stance on gun oils to be enlightening. Honestly, you just don’t hear your position being espoused anywhere else…and the amount of degraded wood stocks in the world attest to it, too.
Thanks again from Canada for your clear and informative tutorial.
Stay warm sir
Wipe the barrels under the forend with an oil cloth before snapping the forend on or the blued metal can rust from handling them while reassembling the gun.
Great information.
One minute after he posted. He earned that praise on reputation alone. 😂
Happy New Year Mr Gunblue
Your cleaning and lubricant videos are another prized call to common sense! Thanks Gunblue490, my guns and cleaning kit thank you too!
Another excellent video! Thank you!
Another really helpful video. Thank you so much.
Thank you for for creating this video. This is exactly how I care for my trap guns, albeit not after every use. I just periodically clean the bore and lightly lubricate the wear points several times throughout the year. I did not know to return the break open lever to the center position. I do now.
One other thing I do is to fire both barrels with the gun disassembled by holding a fired empty shell against the firing pins to relieve the firing springs. I do not have snap caps and I believe that when you open the gun to disassemble it resets the firing pins.
Thank you. I've kept my two Mirokus in perfect shape for nearly fifty years by following the same procedures. I recently saw an article by a pundit on English guns which said that the hinge pin should be greased rather than oiled. I tried Penn fishing reel grease which seems to work well.
A fine lesson that makes me consider storing used guns that I purchase muzzle down for a while, in case the previous owner used too much oil.
It's too late now, all you can do is treat them better to avoid further damage.
Capillary action still works against gravity.
Hi Wayne nice to see you again!! I definitely agree with over oil . I had seen some used guns at shows and gun shops. They had so much oil stain on the wood. It was terrible. Yes definitely agree with you sir ! Thank you Wayne nice to see you again!!! As always !!
Thank you so much for a great video.
Wipe the prints off before putting the forend on the shotgun, or you find a rusty surprise the next time you do this drill !
Thank you for the information, I shoot a CZ over & under weekly and store it apart in the case, I now need to find out how to release the spring.
What great timing on this video. I just bought a brand new silver pigeon and I’m glad you made this video. I’d like to see what I need to do to the shot gun before I use it for the 1st time. I really enjoy your videos.
Great information, thanks for a great video!
You're welcome, and please keep an eye out for more videos in the future!
That was me that sent you the email requesting o/u info..Thanks
Great video!
Thanks for the helpful video.
I needed this video
...and thats all there is to it :)
I love it.
Thank you for this video, I learned a lot today
Seems like since I started watching your channel, I probably have enough gun lubricants to last me, my kids, and grandkids our whole lives. But I do like that there aren't the oil stains on the firearms anymore. I don't even look at new lubricants when I am at the gun store anymore.
CZ makes some nice and affordable O/U and SxS shotguns, in 12 and 20 maybe more gauges.. well under $1000 FWIW
You mean Huglu makes some affordable O/U and SxS shotguns… CZ just imports them.
That said I have a few. The 20ga is flawless, even has some beautiful wood. But the 12ga doesn’t always like to fire the first barrel after changing which barrel fires first, side from that little problem they’ve been great
Great video, thanks for the info!
I keep a pair of previously fired shells in my coach gun to dry fire for storage.
Thank you sir!
So you should never store the shotgun disassembled since you cannot fire the shotgun on snap caps?
That's correct. A gun case is a travel medium, not for storage. Guns are happy when assembled. 😊
@@GunBlue490there’s something a little awkward about having to leave snap caps in the gun while stored, but I suppose there’s no way of getting them out again without re-cocking the gun…or at least I can’t think of one. Thanks for the great info!
I could be wrong, but my CG will allow me to fire my snap caps, remove the fore-end and remove the barrels without re-engaging the extractors/ejectors. I just let the snap caps fall, remove the barrels and disengage the spring for the action/lever and store it in the case without worry.
I use grease, not oil.
could you do a video on cleaning and protecting old wood stocks and handles? I was thinking of cleaning with ballistol and coating the outside with tung oil . Would this work? this is for 50 year old hard wood grips.
Sir,
Excuse me if this is the incorrect format to ask this question, but I'm interested in hearing what you might have to say about it: Would a blued revolver (Model 29) fare well in the great outdoors for extended periods of time, so long as I keep the finish lightly oiled? I'm looking for a woods .44 magnum and would prefer blued over stainless unless it would rust too easily. Thank you
Good info. Thank you. Everything you said makes sense to me. But, all of the major gun manufacturers on UA-cam suggest lightly greasing the hinge pins and other contact points on O/U. I’m inclined to follow your advice. Any thoughts on why you seem to be an outlier?
Sir I have a 1950s Savage 12 ga O/U my dad willed me. Suggestions. My auction gun is a Traditions 20 ga auction gun 1990s. Same. Dads gun was used as they did then my tradition has shot less than 2 boxes, same. Thanks Chuck
Wayne, Thank you for this instructive video. I wish I saw it and your others 50 years ago. One question, after you release the firing pins won’t they recock when you open the gun to release the lever and to disassemble for storage in the luggage type case? Don’t you have to remove the forearm first to prevent the recocking? Thanks again for all your insights.
Yes, the gun recocks when the action is opened to place it in a carrying case. For that reason, a carry case is not a good storage option. The best storage option is to assemble the gun, and release the firing pins on dummy rounds.
I’m actually thinking about a CZ coach gun in the future so this is am excellent tutorial. Thank you Gunblue.
I have a reloading question. I have trouble seating flat base rifle bullets. From time to time I end up crushing the neck. Any advice on seating flat base bullets? Thank you for the work you do.
A good video and good advice, thank you, but I must correct two things below. As for cleaning, what you say is exactly what I have been doing for the last 20+ years with my 686E Sporting Clays gun and after many many thousands of rounds my shotgun is just as beautiful as when it was new. Now, about springs ...
...mechanical engineers will tell you, as they have told me for 30 years, that what causes wear and stress is the actual cycling operation of the spring and not whether it is in a cocked / uncocked or compressed / uncompressed state. Absolutely no harm is caused by leaving the hammers in a cocked state, just as no harm is caused by leaving magazines in a loaded state. Even when "spring tension is relieved" there is still considerable compression of the spring; only if the spring were completely out of the firearm would it be fully uncompressed. So, the urge to "release spring tension" is not scientific, it is emotional. This is what mechanical engineers in various high-tech companies have unanimously told me for 30 years; I am just the messenger.
Second, those plastic snap-caps are prone to having their rims break off. Better snap caps are brass, just like a real shell, and actually have a cotton or fabric bore brush on the other end that keeps the chamber clean.
Thank you for explaining why the bottom barrel is usually the barrel to be fired first and thank you for your time making these videos and sharing your knowledge with us.
Instead of snap caps, how about using spent shells?
I just bought flitz rifle and gun wax want to try it always used #9
Old school low tech, but stored in my hi-tech brainbox..
I was taught, "If it spins, oil it. If it slides, grease it." As a skeet shooter I have followed that rule for years on my shotguns with excellent results. But oil is better than nothing, I suppose.
all good stuff. One last step should be to oil/wipe down the barrels after being handled with hands before being stored. Stay safe, stay armed , stay free.