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We are two brothers who are passionate Smash Ultimate players and Nintendo fans. Our goal is to educate you with tutorials about the game’s advanced techniques, and entertain you with combo videos and other discussions.
In our Smash Review series we react to clips you guys send us and try to recreate any weird glitches or techniques to learn more about the game. In our Questionable Beef series we play against each other in whatever crazy challenge we can come up with.
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Who is higher on the tierlist?!
probably vyQ's, the other one is good but there is a big lack of recovery
vyQ has better kill confirms and a better recovery. vyQ for sure
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It's a REAL shame that cFive's char got a bad recovery cause he thought Link's up-B was better at killing. LET HIM CHANGE IT! (and let vyQ change one of his moves too, to be fairer!)
i love the style where you talk about the game on your own its very entertaining
A lot of UA-camrs are hopping on this trend and at some point I hope we can get a 8 man colab and do a tournament with all of the custom characters.
Yes, with Little Z, and Tcnick3, little Z has 1, Tcnick3 has 4, and now beefy smash dudes has 2, one spot left.
@@LoyaLPikmin mockrock also has one, but he does more of analysis videos so he ever did it it would probably be on his mockrocktalk channel, assuming he actually would want to do it that is.
@@Bigwings2043 Great idea,
Have enough people do it and we could fill the whole roster with these abominations.
Just do a modded super major. It would very interesting to see what the best in the world could come up with. Same building rules required.
Awesome, happy to see it in action, it was sick workin with you guys on this!
This was a fun watch. Love the interview of the two talking to the camera about their thought process lol. Gives the video more character, while their characters, take moves from other characters but that’s enough characters for this sentence 😅
I think a fun variation of this would be a best of five, modded vs unmodded character, where the object is not to win, but instead to get as much intel on the modded character. At the end of the set you have to guess/remember rhe moveset. Whoever gets the most guesses right after two sets wins
I feel like I saw someone do something similar to this Tcnick I think?
My idea for my own take on this concept
Jab: Little Mac
F-Tilt: Sephiroth
D-Tilt: Ryu
U-Tilt: Snake
Dash Attack: Ganondorf
N-Air: Ryu
F-Air: Lucina
B-Air: Ryu
D-Air: Sephiroth
U-Air: Ganondorf
F-Smash: Little Mac
D-Smash: Sephiroth
U-Smash: Pyra
N-Special: Zero Suit Samus
S-Special: Bowser
D-Special: Snake
U-Special: Ken (includes the command input)
Grab: Charizard ig, that dash grab is really fuggin big
F-Throw: Lucas
D-Throw: Luigi
B-Throw: Ness
U-Throw: Charizard
Base Character: Lucario so I get aura also cool air movement
Also it has EWGF
Overall gameplan is to get little strings with Neutral Special and EWGF. EWGF I can kill confirm using B-Air, U-Air, F-Smash angled up maybe, U-Smash, S-Special, and U-Special. I can also attack C4 to them while they are stunned. Neutral Special there's less I can do, but I imagine I can use sour spot dash attack to confirm into U-Air or B-Air. Also I have Ryu's N-Air and D-Tilt so I just get to mash on ya shield.
Also, since I'm on Lucario as the character, I can use C4 to self-damage myself, helping my recovery and building my aura. Now imagine aura + rage + command input ken shoryuken. You will die very early.
I'm a dick
This character would destroy the entire universe
Instead of gaining redness, maybe use Inkling's FS effect where her hair inks up as you get KO Punch, or even maybe that white flashing effect that happens with charged moves (like FLUDD). Just an idea, I dunno how well that'd be to mod in compared to reddening.
All and all, great video! I had a fun time tryna guess the moves you 2 slapped on these abominations lol
Now I have to see these two collaborate with Tcnick3, I NEED to see their creations compete with George
The interview style commentary is a nice touch
Was that TCNick3 George at the beginning?
I’m pretty sure they’ve played with nicks George before in a video so they know about him, so i say it is
I realize now...this is the series I look forward to the most on a Friday :)
edit: wait was the office style interview on purpose?
I liked the little interviews in between segments. You guys should do this again! There’s a lot of challenge potential here.
For example use a random generator to give each of you 2-3 characters and you build your best combo character from those pieces.
little mac forward smash can be angled as a combo starter and deal crazy damage as well
The real most broken character would have Mythra's movement, Steve's jab and blocks, Kazuya's EWGF, Sonic's spin dash, Palutena's nair, G&W up-b, and Cloud back-air.
0:39 pichu's hurtbox is actually bigger than Pikachu's
This is the content i was waiting for. Just like good old moveset-swap in brawl used to be. Please do more episodes of this concept with different stuff!
I really want a pt2 to this
Game & Watch and Ivysaur’s Up Bs exist.
C5: I think I’ll choose Link’s.
I’m disappointed that neither went for thrust uppercut, neither went for fox up-smash, and neither went for ZSS movement.
This was a great video and I had lot of fun watching it, thank you 😊
I would love to see you guys fight with two viewer made custom characters
Yall HAVE to do this again!!!
Daddy needs to do something about those dark circles. That solo-cam was not it. It was giving zombie.
vyQ’s character was actually pretty busted, I like the idea of cFive’s character but how the moves flowed together wasn’t as well thought out.
Y'all should experiment with the Tanooki Leaf in a video. It gives every character Peach's float cancels!
I like how they turned this into part documentary
Enjoyed this format! Cool concept!!
I don’t get the choice of link up b, I feel like you’d be much better off with one better for recovery or as a quick out of shield option
I think the most broken character would be joker with:
zss down spec
byleth up spec
diddy side spec
pac man neutral spec
ridley nair
ivysaur upair
cloud bair
ricter fair
pyra dair
roy jab
seph f tilt
rob utilt
mythra dtilt
dk dash attack
palu usmash
game and watch downsmash
mega man fsmash
jokers grabs with that kit and arsene would be impossible to beat
Can someone make a smash ultimate randomizer please? I click random and its a random base character with every move random
How did they create their own character?
Custom pokemon trainer needs to happen 😂
cfive didn’t really think his moveset through bcuz like yeah you have combo options but now you have to learn to execute these perfect combos, lmao
You need a better up special, cFive hahaha. Pika or Pac or something you can use to come back from those off-stage rests and edgeguards. Otherwise that is the best character in the game lol
No charge shot 😢
I wonder what happens if they do this with ice climbers would they both have special moves😂
can I just say... nO tEcH!?
What if you actually made Myra and Pithra
VyQ could have abused fair into side b up air so badly
This is officially the most cursed video cover they've ever done.
Awesome 😊
Awesome video ahaha
I mean no shulk monado who be broken
Steve and Kazuya are still better 🤣
Gonna be honest, Vyq’s character was way better.
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lol
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what a weird video format lmao
tcnick3 did this first
As a Link main, clearly C5 never actually played Link and only theory crafted his up B as an OoS option and combo tool. Why on earth would you gimp yourself like that
Sora up B is better Kazuya up B would be good
Haha true, he also staled it hella throughout the match lol
Should've got Lucina upB or something. intangibility on startup, good travel distance. Good OoS option.
Yeah, could use game and watch up B or charizard Up smash for out of shield instead
hell G&W up b would be good
Sora’s would’ve still comboed, plus it would have killed earlier because it hits at a way sharper angle
I'm pretty sure that mii sword fighter up b and not link up b
True, the angle was different
CFive: You can't have Lucario's Aura if you don't use Lucario's base model
Also CFive: *KO Punch on Inkling*
I’m guessing that’s different bc KO punch is isolated to one move while aura is a general character wide mechanic
@@mrbister8714 hero mana?
@@frieddoorhandles You need MP to use any of Hero's specials, so that's also only on one move (vyQ's down-B)
@@frieddoorhandles I got nothing there lmao
meh, coding can get hard, you never know what breaks what for unkown reasons
I wish we couldve gotten to see every move and what they were taken from. Like the throws and smash attacks especially
Have you never played smash before? The moves are never new just replacements. They cant make them new ones
@@falconfighter3456 lol we can make new ones, that just wasn’t the goal of the mod, also doc is just saying he would’ve liked an overview of each character, no issue in that
@@falconfighter3456 imagine being this wrong on every point lol
I really liked the talking heads throughout the video. I would love to see a follow up video where you tweek the characters for a rematch.
As a Link main, I know how deadly kirbly's dair is to Link's recovery
Would love to see Shulk neutral B with Hero down B
All of hero buffs with buster or smash arts one shots
@@RobertJohnson-of7do damn
Five had the most half-baked character lol. How did you think both KO punch and rest was a good idea?
Incineroar Revenge plus Snake Grenades sounds like a great combination. You get a great projectile and you can self Revenge to max.
True true
Imagine that and mii fighter suplex as a side b, which is super fast for a command grab. Being weaker than alolan whip would be more than counterbalanced by the fact that you could self-revenge with grenades lol
I love this TV show style interview segments where we get your thought process for a couple seconds mid match
I think a better up b for cFive would be sora’s, which is similar to link but has better verticality and sends the opponent up, which seems to be what cFive was looking for. Would’ve been awesome!
When they started talking theory crafting, I was also thinking Kirby Down Air- Lingering Spike, Combos into lots of things, fast and low end lag on a non-floaty character
I loved seeing cFive's relatively well-rounded character for the first half, then as soon as vyQ's character shows up it instantly just goes troll mode with Command Selection existing
I love the Reality show style cut away's, this episode was amazing!
Should have went with meta knight up-b, would have been better for the same purpose
Without watching the video, my character would be:
Model, jumps, movement: Sonic
Jab: Isabelle
Ftilt: Ganon
Dtilt: Incineroar
Utilt: Steve
FSmash: Sonic
DSmash: Ness
USmash: Min Min
Nair: Paluntena
Fair: Steve
Bair: Sephiroth
Dair: Game & Watch
Uair: Incineroar
Grab: Pac-Man
Pummel: Kazuya
Fthrow: DK, if banned Kazuya
Bthrow: Incineroar
Uthrow: Mewtwo
Dthrow: Luigi
NSpecial: Shulk, if banned Joker
SSpecial: Sonic
DSpecial: Sonic
USpecial: Game & Watch
Luigi’s grab game with Steve Fair replacing Luigi down air. Incineroar dtilt and Paluntena Nair also extend combos. Pretty sure Luigi down throw combos into MinMin up smash at kill percent, but if it doesn’t, you have Incineroar and Mewtwo kill throws.
Other than that, you’re Sonic with ludicrously fast kill moves and combo starters, plus Game and Watch Up Special to escape from anything.
Here’s how you make the best character in the game:
Greninja base attributes
Steve blocks
Mario down throw
Bayonetta up and side b
Falco up tilt
Bowser or Shulk forward air
Byleth or Palutena up air
Boom. That’s really all you need for Smash 4 Bayonetta on steroids
(Maybe throw in a projectile or two to force an approach. Hero down b comes to mind)
So THIS is how modding custom characters is possible.
i know this vid is old now, but it would be awesome if u did this again but only fusing 2 characters together, so like for example wii fit and falcon, the character can only have moves from both and it needs to be the same amount of moves from each character
A KO punch that doesn’t disappear? Man what a fundamentally unfair concept that I sure am glad they never officially implemented into a recent character.
You can mod these custom fighters onto pokemon trainer and make them switch with taunt.
Then you'd have that cursed diddy, cursed inkling and cursed sheik all in one fighter
Really luv this format!
Next make a characte for each other, but obviously you want to make it as bad as you can possibly get it.
Nice abominations
You should try replacing the Link Up-B with Sora's, it feels a lot stronger
Bruh i LOVE the new editing style!! Seems like a lot of work. But its what makes you guys the best Smash content makers. Not just some.clickbaity memey videos with bassboosted monke style sfx
I liked the new American Documentary style!
That's 3 "best characters" i see and i'm wondering : why aren't you using the ice climbers as a template? You could even give different movesets to Nana and Popo.
So i've been thinking about it and here is what i've come up with :
neutral b : 2x grenade (Snake)
down b : 2x absorbtion field (Ness) = heal on command with grenades
side b : poison cloud (Piranha Plant) on Popo and flame choke (Ganondorf) on Nana
up b : 2x rocket fuel (ROB) unless Nana's AI can't handle it
forward smash : Mii Gunner's on Popo and Ike's on Nana
combo goes side b -> pull grenade while Nana is choking the opponent -> jab lock with grenade if no tech -> big damage with poison cloud -> forward smash
I've not thought further than this for now, and there's probably room for improvement as i did it by thinking about it instead of going down the list of characters so i likely missed some moves that would have been better.
This is so cool!
I wish this "feature" was more accessible
cFive: "No character gimmicks without using that character's model"
also cFive: *KO punch on inkling*
ko punch is a move tho aura is not
@@epicking8341 A move named "Straight Lunge" that literally changes (not just becomes stronger like Mii Brawler's Side-B "Onslaught") into an extremely powerful move called "KO Uppercut"... also known as KO Punch. That's what you call a gimmick. Otherwise, you could simply give anyone "Power Geyser". It's just a move, right? One that is unlocked by taking damage but the move itself isn't a gimmick, right? Nope, C5 just broke his own rules without realising it.
i once imagined a mod where you could do this in game maybe in 1000 years but this is dope
Bs ryu downair should let you cancel into specials the rules said char specifics wouldnt work and thats ryu and ken specific
Cfive always cheatin man
I meannn it’s technically a property of the move, but true
The Office cut aways!💯👌🤣
I would love to see a video series on this concept with Ultimate character archetypes. Ultimate spammer with Sonic for speed, an Lucario survivor, an heavy hitter who can kill super early, etc...
I need to these custom characters battle against TCNICK3’s George & Little Z’s Falco.
In a form of a team battle video.
With mods you get to see how truly privileged your main is
Also that thumbnail is so cursed 😟
C5, you said "no gimmicks" allowed. Why did you pick Little Mac's KO Punch?
Explanation: Little Mac's neutral B is a move named "Straight Lunge" that literally changes (not just becomes stronger like Mii Brawler's Side-B "Onslaught") into an extremely powerful move called "KO Uppercut"... also known as KO Punch. That's what you call a gimmick.
If I could make a custom character, it'd be over Mewtwo cuz' he's one of the fastest characters on the ground AND in the air. He'd have my favorite moves I find most useful all in one. Belmont dair, Palu's counter/reflector, Squirtle water gun, (charges faster than Mario's) Mii Swordfighter chakram, Min Min fsmash, Luigi down throw, etc. I wish I actually had a pc to make mods but I'm a broke bitch. 😢
The most cursed fighter moveset ever: Piranha Plant with. . .
Natural Special: Charge Shot (Dark Samus)
Side Special: Photon Edge (Mythra)
Up Special: Balloon Trip (Isabelle)
Down Special: Command Selection (Hero)
Jab: Little Mac
Foward Tilt: Bayonetta
Up Tilt: Gannondorf
Down Tilt: Meta Knight
Neutral Air: King K. Rool
Forward Air: Captain Falcon
Up Air: Richter
Down Air: Dr. Mario
Forward Smash: Min Min
Down Smash: Steve
Up Smash: Palutena
Dash Attack: King Dedede
Edge Attack: Ridley
Floor Attacks: Cloud
Grab / Pummel: Yoshi
Forward Throw: Mewtwo
Up Throw: Ness
Back Throw: Lucas
Down Throw: Bowser
Final Smash: Zelda
I think Yoshi would be the best base model for this - double jump armor, good weight, insane aerial drift, decent ground speed, and an inability to be shield poked in exchange for a slightly wonkier but still serviceable grab. Yoshi's worst aspects are his moveset, so go something like Neutral B > Mewtwo Shadow Ball, Side B > Captain Falcon's Raptor Boost, Up B > Pikachu's Quick Attack, Down B > Sheik's Bouncing Fish for specials, Mewtwo Jab, Mewtwo Down Tilt, Wolf F-Tilt, Yoshi Up-Tilt, Marth F-Smash, G&W Down Smash, Byleth Up-Smash, Pikachu Neutral Air, Mewtwo F-Air, Villager B-Air, Byleth Up-Air, Ivysaur Down-Air, Ness Back Throw, Mewtwo Forward Throw, Pichu Down Throw, Diddy Kong Up Throw
I don't think it would be the best character possible, but it would play like a spookier Mewtwo with these differences:
Less awkward tail hitbox
Heavier
Better mobility
Double Jump armor to escape combos easier
A more reliable drag down N-air
Even better recovery
Raptor Boost as a combo tool in neutral that would lead to Mewtwo F-air into kill percents
two combo throws, one that true combos into drag down n-air, the other combos into up-air
Better anti-airs and sharking tools from Byleth's stuff
A less finicky spike for edge guarding
A projectile back-air for neutral that's only -3 on shield to pair with the better grab game and the lack of a tail hitbox downside
Momentum cancel option in Bouncing Fish to make survivability even more insane
Marth F-Smash as a gimmick option and potential follow-up from landing weak-mid Shadow Ball
Wolf's F-tilt/Ivysaur's Down-Air to pressure ledge
I'm still waiting for somebody to make the ultimate projectile spammer. Samus neutral b, Snake down b, Villager side b, Rob up b, Villager forward/back air, Megaman up/down/neutral air, Palutena up smash, Mii Gunner side smash, Game&Watch down smash, Megaman forward tilt/jab, Game&Watch down tilt, Steve up tilt, Isabel grab, Kazuya up throw, Fox back throw, Rob down throw, and Bowser pummel. At least, that's my idea of an opponent you couldn't possibly get close to. Oh, and put all of this in an incredibly small body, like Pichu, or a heavy with built in armor, like Bowser or Kazuya.
if you used Marth as a base, would your moves have tippers?
if you used Robin as a base, would your moves have levin sword's killpower?
if you used joker as a base, would you get arsene power on all your custom moves?
so many questions
The character I came up with is this.
Base character is Terry.
Nair: Ganondorf
Dair: Ganondorf
Bair: Sephiroth
Uair: Sephiroth
Fair: Bowser
Jab: Mega man
Utilt: Snake
Ftilt: Snake
Dtilt: Snake
Dash attack: Snake
Neutral B: Snake
Down B: Snake
Up B: Kazuya
Side B: Richter
Up Smash: Snake
Forward smash: Kazuya
Down smash: Kazuya
(Assuming that this can be changed) Pummel: Snake
Uthrow: Kazuya
Fthrow: DK
Bthrow: Sephiroth
Dthrow: Snake
For anyone who cares, I'll give my explanations, and for anyone who wants a TLDR: Snake is good, what if we gave him more utility, better movement, and more kill options.
Dorf Nair: arguably the best in the Nair in the game, long lasting and strong.
Dorf Dair: its based, and also no one wants to get hit by a move that strong, on stage or off.
Sephiroth Bair has long reach and is a good kill option
Sephiroth Uair: spacing? What's that?
Bowser Fair: it's a good move, and I'll admit that nothing else really came to mind
Mega man Jab: lemons
Snake Utilt: good kill move, and also (insert brawl hitbox joke here)
Snake Ftilt: comes out frame 4
Snake Dtilt: good reach, good poking tool, and also I'm used to it. Dorf Dtilt was also up for consideration due to it's similar nature.
Snake Dash attack: super fast and the start of it makes his upper body intangible.
Snake Neutral B: there is no character that wouldn't benefit from having snakes grenades. Best Neutral B in the game, the only debate I'll take is shulk's monado arts because it fall into a similar category.
Snake Down B: snake's C4 gives an incredible amount of stage control and let's him recover from pretty much anywhere.
Kazuya Up B: snake's drone but faster, also a great kill option
Richter side B: more projectiles and combo potential.
Kazuya Side B was up for consideration though since it could be a great option to set up for a kill. I decided against it because it's laggy up it misses or hits shield, and also I don't feel like figuring out if Kazuya's Side/Up B thing applies in this situation since the character would have both. (You can't use side B and Up B together in the air, if you use one, you can't use the other until you land back on stage or grab ledge.)
Snake Up Smash: More projectiles and Ledge trapping
Kazuya Forward Smash: I'm guessing this is the one with the most kill potential. It deals something like 40% when fully charged and the sweetspot hits.
Kazuya Down Smash: it's a shield breaker. I'll let the opposition find out what happens when they try to shield one of the grenades.
Snake Pummel is good, but if it has to stay the same as the base characters Pummel, there's no issue with that.
Kazuya Up throw: it's a kill throw and nothing else came to mind.
DK Forward Throw: why have 4 throws when you can have 7-8 (I refuse to debate if the cargo hold itself is a throw.)
Sephiroth Back throw: it has some combos. Only thing that comes to mind immediately though is B throw into Bair at lower percents (both of them are Sephiroth Moves. 10 points to whoever can guess why I know that combos.)
Snake Down Throw: tech chases.
As I said before, my overall reasoning came down to the fact that I play Snake, I know how dumb his tools are, so what if we gave him more.
Initially my original base was Sephiroth, but the idea I had for the moveset reached a point where having someone with the same weight as f*cking Kirby leads to a character that dies a way too early.
I stand by the fact that Snake's grenades would benefit any character, but having a move set that is pretty much just snake's but better on one of the lightest characters in the game doesn't allow for a character that can survive for that long.
It'd be the same thing as giving Mythra Ganondorf's speed and weight. Her frame data would be great and she'd likely be able to survive for longer, but good luck accomplishing anything with a character that slow with that little power. You'd likely just end up playing Pyra most, if not all, of the time.
what is the name of the mod?
How is CFives character so bad? But VyQs looks so strong and fun
honestly, his character was pretty good, he just had to play it more ground based, dragdowns into mac fsmash and usmash is nutty, he also had to stick to a more edge guarding plan, I feel like cfives could honestly pass as a dlc character lmfao, it's kinda a suped up little mac, though dair into up b or dair into side b would be pretty good options for him to kill too, he just needed a bit more experience with him I feel, it's a pretty technical character lol
@@SushiiZProductions But for a custom character you could do so much more
Why would you need KO Punch and Rest and Link up B just get 1 good kill move thats consistent
I have so many questions about the limits of this.
For example can you have Shulk’s monatos on anyone other than Shulk?
Even if not can you have Shulk but with other moves, like smash monato knee killing at 10%?
Can you put the pyra/mythra swap with each swap having their own set of moves?
Same idea with pokémon trainer?
Can you put MinMin down B onto other characters?
Really enjoyed the video and hope to see more stupid abominations!
Snake utilt, Fox dash attack, G&W upb, Hero command selection...this man was serious 😂
What if you created a character, using frame data, that is specifically curated to have the easiest-to-perform, most consistent zero-to-death combo possible?
Here wondering if it's possible to big brain play this and go with Pokemon Trainer's or Pyra/Mythra's Down B~
Ike nair, Seph dair, cloud fair, Fox bair, link u tilt, byleth d tilt, dk f tilt, Falcon jab, ganon u smash, robin d smash, pyra f smash, plant down b, bowser side b, game n watch up b
That would be my move choice on young link’s model