My grandpa worked on Detroits, the 6v53 Detroit to be exact, while working for Cal Fire forestry. He was the forestry equipment manager and worked on 6v53 Detroits in the fire engines then they switched over to an 1160 CAT V8. He said that was a little underpowered in his opinion. Then they ultimately decided to go with the 3208 CAT which was the best engine in his opinion. He passed away last September and I miss him every day. I got all my mechanics training from him and he practically raised me when my dad walked out. I’m truly grateful for my grandpa stepping up. RIP Vapa🙏🏼❤️
Back then... those two engines were pretty much identical at the same RPMs, a lot of people lugged the detroit though rather than running it to the governor then shifting like you are supposed to. This made the engine feel gutless as well as lead to thrown valves and other problems from the lugging.... which is a symptom of shifting by ear rather than by RPM and relearning what it should sound like.
What a sweet sound. Love that Detroit engine. Never go the hang of floating gears in the ones that I drove but they were trucks with twin sticks. Mostly 4 x 4’s. Thanks for the video.
Thank you. Floating them is relatively easy once you get to know a truck. Just have to take it slow and listen to and feel the truck. My biggest problem is switching between trucks, they each have their own shifting personalities. Thanks for watching
Rob i sure would like to be in ther with you on that ride u got her looking good and she sounding good 👍 ❤ thank u for posting that sound like the good old days seen some more !!++
O-H-I-O Porter greetings 🇺🇸 I rode in a Loadstar bus back in the day. Gas engine. I love hitting those top 2 gears…it means you’re rolling & can sit back & enjoy the ride. Nice truck. It still has the nice grill, fenders & cab. I love the old trucks for those reasons. A nice way to end the day…driving off into the sunset, at any temperature! Sweet truck & ride! Thanks for the ride along! I rode with my oldest brother many times as a kid in those big trucks & always looked forward to when I could start driving the . I started at 6 years old driving my dad’s wrecker. I appreciate that you have a knob on your steering wheel. Those are so cool & useful! I just got back from a 1200 miles trip & so wished I had one in my van. Blessings my friend. 💥🥰✌️
It’s a great sound for sure, always reminds me of being a kid in the early 80’s when it seemed like every truck had a Detroit. I wouldn’t want to drive one every day though!
The cab is so small in that truck and the shifter is near the back wall of the cab so it’s nearly impossible…. If you see the shifter, that’s about all you’d see!
Needs Jake Breaks on the head now! 671 jakes sounds and work great! Very nice Binder..that model but a dump truck version was the very first one I got my class B license in Maryland. Then later a class A way back in 1982! The international had a 6v 71 custom twin turbo set up with an15 speed and jakes.. that truck literally screamed! And surprisingly had good power.
Beautiful rig! I worked at a crop dusting outfit in Tracy, CA that had an IH Fleetstar loading ttruck with a 549 in it. Old Stearmans and old trucks. Fortunate to have grown up that way
That's the problem with a 2 stroke Detroit after you have been driving other trucks. You know what they say about driving a Detroit.......first thing you have to do is slam your hand in the door when you get in to get pissed off......then drive it like you stole it. LOL
Absolutely brilliant video I’ve been a subscriber of yours for a while now and I was actually wanting to know if you could do more like this one only a lot longer but in ASMR style for the start up that would be so cool thanks man stay safe have a great one😊
Really appreciate you watching, Cody- to be honest I just had to google ASMR (old guy over here!) but when the truck comes out of hibernation I’ll have to consider it
Man if had couple pills 💊 I think I could do a turnaround come back rob wher are u at doing all that work put more videos on i waiting on you ❤❤ I hadn't had that feeling in a long time thanks !!++
That is one nicely restored truck you have there. It is obvious that the 6-71 Detroit was not factory due to what appears to be an extended doghouse in the cab necessitated by the length of that large inline six cylinder engine. I know that the factory 466 inline six trucks had a doghouse that was about flush with the instrument panel while the gas trucks didn't have it. By the way, what transmission are you running in there? A 10 speed?
The 6-71 was not a factory option in the Loadstar but it was in the fleetstar, which used the same cab as the Loadstar so I welded in the firewall and doghouse from a Fleetstar. The transmission is a Fuller 10 speed.
@@robstruckshop80 I am pondering a swap of 6-71 from an '85 Fleetstar parts truck my into my '65 Loadstar 1800. I have not had the chance to closely inspect the sheet metal of the Fleetstar yet. Did you need to swap the entire firewall, or could you have adapted the existing firewall to fit the extended doghouse of the Fleetstar?
The fleetstar was produced from 62-77 and generally only the earlier models through about 72 had the “C series” Loadstar cab, so it would need to be one of those. I’m sure you could just weld in the central doghouse portion. In my case I wanted to convert my Loadstar to air brakes, so the full firewall swap got me the doghouse as well as the treadle valve mount and all the air related parts
@@robstruckshop80 Sloppy typing on my part. The Fleetstar is a '75, not an '85. I already have air brakes in the Loadstar, so, no need to worry about modifications beyond the actual fitment of the Detroit. if I pursue the swap a simple addition of the dog house seems to be pretty simple. The donor rig has the 5+ 4 tranny setup and the '75 has the 7 speed. I need to take a look at which makes more sense gearing wise along with determining what the gearing of the different vintage axles are. Kinda wondering if putting the 4 speed sub transmission behind the 7 speed offers any gains too. BTW, what sort of speed/rpm were you turning during the cruise portions of your video?
I remember seeing an early 1960s Loadstar with a factory Red Diamond 6cyl gasoline engine, that was a large in line engine and it had a rather large dog house, they probably the same length as a DT 466.
Do you really need to be using ALL those gears with the thing unloaded? When I was driving a 33,000 pound 5+2 if it was unloaded, I would shift it 2-3-4l-4h-5l-5h.
My grandpa worked on Detroits, the 6v53 Detroit to be exact, while working for Cal Fire forestry. He was the forestry equipment manager and worked on 6v53 Detroits in the fire engines then they switched over to an 1160 CAT V8. He said that was a little underpowered in his opinion. Then they ultimately decided to go with the 3208 CAT which was the best engine in his opinion. He passed away last September and I miss him every day. I got all my mechanics training from him and he practically raised me when my dad walked out. I’m truly grateful for my grandpa stepping up. RIP Vapa🙏🏼❤️
Back then... those two engines were pretty much identical at the same RPMs, a lot of people lugged the detroit though rather than running it to the governor then shifting like you are supposed to. This made the engine feel gutless as well as lead to thrown valves and other problems from the lugging.... which is a symptom of shifting by ear rather than by RPM and relearning what it should sound like.
What a sweet sound. Love that Detroit engine. Never go the hang of floating gears in the ones that I drove but they were trucks with twin sticks. Mostly 4 x 4’s. Thanks for the video.
Thank you. Floating them is relatively easy once you get to know a truck. Just have to take it slow and listen to and feel the truck. My biggest problem is switching between trucks, they each have their own shifting personalities. Thanks for watching
I learned on a Mack tri-plex with a 237 hp thermodyne
Thanks for the ride bud, that was music to my ears !! Nice Binder !!
Rob i sure would like to be in ther with you on that ride u got her looking good and she sounding good 👍 ❤ thank u for posting that sound like the good old days seen some more !!++
I got into old trucks because of video games. Glad to see this one clean and running
@_dimitri_1242 what games? Explain more pls. Thanks!
@@efdworks for me it was snowrunner and american truck simulator
I grew up riding in em and learned how to drive, take me to an old truck scrapyard and I’ll wonder around all day
O-H-I-O Porter greetings 🇺🇸 I rode in a Loadstar bus back in the day. Gas engine. I love hitting those top 2 gears…it means you’re rolling & can sit back & enjoy the ride. Nice truck. It still has the nice grill, fenders & cab. I love the old trucks for those reasons. A nice way to end the day…driving off into the sunset, at any temperature! Sweet truck & ride! Thanks for the ride along! I rode with my oldest brother many times as a kid in those big trucks & always looked forward to when I could start driving the . I started at 6 years old driving my dad’s wrecker. I appreciate that you have a knob on your steering wheel. Those are so cool & useful! I just got back from a 1200 miles trip & so wished I had one in my van. Blessings my friend. 💥🥰✌️
Jam up and jelly tight! Nicely done😎
those are the trucks i grew up on and love,yours is a sweetn little ride
Thank you!
Been a number of years since I ran Detroit's. I miss that sound.
It’s a great sound for sure, always reminds me of being a kid in the early 80’s when it seemed like every truck had a Detroit. I wouldn’t want to drive one every day though!
You came up in my recommendations. Thank you for sharing. Norm in the UK
Thank you for subscribing, Norm- I’ve got more videos in the works, coming soon!
Beautiful rig 👌🏾👌🏾
Love that engine sound
Very nice truck.
Thank you
Nice truck!
Would've loved to see the gearstick in frame
The cab is so small in that truck and the shifter is near the back wall of the cab so it’s nearly impossible…. If you see the shifter, that’s about all you’d see!
@@robstruckshop80 Got ya;)
That's great, good fun!
i love this detroit diesel's, best motor sound.
They do sound Amazing
Nice truck
Thank you
Needs Jake Breaks on the head now! 671 jakes sounds and work great! Very nice Binder..that model but a dump truck version was the very first one I got my class B license in Maryland. Then later a class A way back in 1982! The international had a 6v 71 custom twin turbo set up with an15 speed and jakes.. that truck literally screamed! And surprisingly had good power.
Excellent video.
This sound is soo good, leaving a sub here 👌
Thanks for the sub!
Beautiful rig!
I worked at a crop dusting outfit in Tracy, CA that had an IH Fleetstar loading ttruck with a 549 in it.
Old Stearmans and old trucks. Fortunate to have grown up that way
That’s exactly why I build these, they’re a snapshot of the past for me. Thank you for watching!
@@robstruckshop80 Looks like gorgeous country too! And a nice, clean place you've got there. Good on ya!
Grind them till you find them! Great video!
Damn right! Thanks for watching
That's the problem with a 2 stroke Detroit after you have been driving other trucks. You know what they say about driving a Detroit.......first thing you have to do is slam your hand in the door when you get in to get pissed off......then drive it like you stole it. LOL
@@shawnmarcil7899 Yeah you have to wind out the Detroit before shifting gears, mostly 2100-2200 RPM.
Absolutely brilliant video I’ve been a subscriber of yours for a while now and I was actually wanting to know if you could do more like this one only a lot longer but in ASMR style for the start up that would be so cool thanks man stay safe have a great one😊
Really appreciate you watching, Cody- to be honest I just had to google ASMR (old guy over here!) but when the truck comes out of hibernation I’ll have to consider it
@@robstruckshop80 dude you are not old you look like you’re in your early 20s
Haha try 40’s but thank you
@@robstruckshop80 You’re welcome sir have a blessed day
SHE'S A BEAUTY!!! AWESOME AWESOME!!!!
That's a nice international truck you have.
Thank you sir, I appreciate that
When my 7.3 powerstroke finally goes on another 400,000 I wanna get a 6v71 or 6-71.
Buzzin 1/2 dozen
Türkiye'de en çok 1830 var
Motor Alman Neuss 6 silindir dizel. Bir zamanlar burada fabrikası vardı.
If you can’t find em grind em 😅
Man if had couple pills 💊 I think I could do a turnaround come back rob wher are u at doing all that work put more videos on i waiting on you ❤❤ I hadn't had that feeling in a long time thanks !!++
Jim sounds pretty pissed off!! Music to my ears 👂
Has one similar to this truck but 6v71
Bet that truck is a screaming demon running down the road she’s such a little truck
It’s not too bad, nice and light. Skip a few gears and she gets a lot faster!
That is one nicely restored truck you have there. It is obvious that the 6-71 Detroit was not factory due to what appears to be an extended doghouse in the cab necessitated by the length of that large inline six cylinder engine. I know that the factory 466 inline six trucks had a doghouse that was about flush with the instrument panel while the gas trucks didn't have it. By the way, what transmission are you running in there? A 10 speed?
The 6-71 was not a factory option in the Loadstar but it was in the fleetstar, which used the same cab as the Loadstar so I welded in the firewall and doghouse from a Fleetstar. The transmission is a Fuller 10 speed.
@@robstruckshop80 I am pondering a swap of 6-71 from an '85 Fleetstar parts truck my into my '65 Loadstar 1800. I have not had the chance to closely inspect the sheet metal of the Fleetstar yet. Did you need to swap the entire firewall, or could you have adapted the existing firewall to fit the extended doghouse of the Fleetstar?
The fleetstar was produced from 62-77 and generally only the earlier models through about 72 had the “C series” Loadstar cab, so it would need to be one of those. I’m sure you could just weld in the central doghouse portion. In my case I wanted to convert my Loadstar to air brakes, so the full firewall swap got me the doghouse as well as the treadle valve mount and all the air related parts
@@robstruckshop80 Sloppy typing on my part. The Fleetstar is a '75, not an '85. I already have air brakes in the Loadstar, so, no need to worry about modifications beyond the actual fitment of the Detroit. if I pursue the swap a simple addition of the dog house seems to be pretty simple. The donor rig has the 5+ 4 tranny setup and the '75 has the 7 speed. I need to take a look at which makes more sense gearing wise along with determining what the gearing of the different vintage axles are. Kinda wondering if putting the 4 speed sub transmission behind the 7 speed offers any gains too.
BTW, what sort of speed/rpm were you turning during the cruise portions of your video?
I remember seeing an early 1960s Loadstar with a factory Red Diamond 6cyl gasoline engine, that was a large in line engine and it had a rather large dog house, they probably the same length as a DT 466.
I drove them did lots of shifting but hardly moved due to the limited torque !😂
That’s the truth
🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌. DETROIT
Big engine in small truck most powerful medium duty class 6 truck
General Mtrs turn fuel into noise
Lol how fast were u goin 😭😀😀😀. Sounds like u were doing 125. But looks like 45. Detroit power💪🏽
Haha, typical 2 stroke Detroit! It tops out at 60, I never hit over 55 in that video
Do you really need to be using ALL those gears with the thing unloaded? When I was driving a 33,000 pound 5+2 if it was unloaded, I would shift it 2-3-4l-4h-5l-5h.
Of course not, but that wouldn’t make a very exciting video.
A 5+2 is also a very different animal than a 10 speed.
5.9l 24v diesel😊
I have a 5.9 I could’ve put into this truck when I built it, but it’s not remotely period correct
Sounds like you might need to use the clutch.
Thanks bud
These old truckers only use a clutch when they come to a stop.
This would be a great farm truck.
Can this engine have a Jake brake added to it?
Not familiar with these engines enough to know their history.
Yes, the 6-71 was available with a Jake brake. Because I will literally never have a load on this truck they would serve no purpose for me, though.